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patches689:
What?

Nigeria has no operational missile armed vessels

Our "defunct" subs sunk an entire NATO task-force

NN is a joke, zero warfighting ability

NN, NAF, NA are all being rebuilt with billions of dollars, that is public information known world wide. Give them another 12 months and see wonder.

SAN submarine played war game with 1970-1980s NATO ships including oil tankers, only one ship was modern in the NATO fleet.

NATO also fooled South Africa by refusing to use any of their latest anti-submarine helicopters in that war game.

Next you didn't know that real modern NATO ships have anti-torpedo decoys and if you fire torpedoes at them they will counter it, waste your torpedoes, discover your submarine position and decend on you with anti-submarine helicopters to sink your submarine.

You think NATO is a fool? NATO is built to fight mighty Russia not South Africa....fool
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jln115:
Maybe as a trainer? i mean the jf-17 is only a 3rd gen aircraft, proved by yourself.

LOL, Saudi Arabia is buying a 3rd generation aircraft after buying 4.5th generation Eurofighter Typhoon. LOL.

I like your comedy, execpt that it degrades your public image here. LOL. Keep it up

jln115:
Yes, the heroine class sub is one of the most advanced diesel electric subs in the world, it also boasts a ton of South African made electronics for e.g the periscopes which are build by Carl Zeiss (now Cassidian) Optronics South Africa.

Your submarines are obsolescent, new version is already out in the market, Egypt is likely buying that.

South Afrcan weapons are mostly dated 1990s technology and fast becoming obsolete by now 2014.

Nigeria and Algeria are buying the most modern weapons in Africa 2014-2015
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patches689:
We needed to replace the Mirage

Gripen is the obvious choice, and at the time the only choice considering the other two were the Mirage 2000 and the Rafael

The Hawks can drop PMG's

You need CAS, why not buy a CAS asset?

We need to replace the F-7 jet

Mi-35 Hind can drop PGMs

We are buyng JF-17, Su-30, and for COIN we might mix Tucano + Scorpion + FrogFoot

NAF will be 10 times better in aircraft mix and diversified capabilities than SAAF....your ranking is dropping below Uganda now!
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patches689:
What exactly are you even asking for here?

Are you embarrassed that after saying no one has bought the "over priced" Mbombe we were able to instantly prove you wrong?

Anyway, 50 sold so far
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=34607:jordanian-armed-forces-buy-50-mbombe-armoured-vehicles&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105

I said you have a potential buyer that has not paid you one dollar yet, and your source above confirms only paper work signed, not payment for the paltry insignificant 50 units of an over-priced Mbombe
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patches689:
NNS Aradu has been in "refit" since 2012

NNS Ambe is an LST not a supply ship

China is transferring no combat ships at all

JC-17 is still a pipe dream

The only thing the Nigerian navy is a threat to is its own vessels.

South African submarine was in refit for 7 years just change battery 2007 to 2014.

LST carries anything from heavy armoured vehicles, food, to fuel, it has cargo space for any cargo.

China is transferring one combat ship to Nigerian navy officially announced and posted here many times .

JF-17 Thunder is a done deal.

Nigerian navy is the biggest threat to South African navy in Sub Saharan Africa
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jln115:
Hahahah NN officers cant even swim!!!!

www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=37270:nigerian-navy-introduces-compulsory-swimming-lessons-for-navy-officers&catid=51:Sea&Itemid=106

South African navy chief of staff CANNOT navigate a boat on the river, he has NO shipping training or certificate

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patches689:
Nope, SAAF has the Gripen which does what the scorpion does, so for us it would be sh@t

and what have we got?

More money than you

7 Frigates

Deal with it

May we also begin to claim all the new ships in Nigerian navy master plan?

Scorpion jet ISR endurance time airborne 300 minutes

Gripen jet Recce Only, enducance time airborne 45 minutes

Old fashioned Gripen of 1998
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jln115:
Future SAN from 2017:
Surface combatants
4X Valour class frigate
4X (ex warrior class)OPVs
3X new OPVs/light Frigates/corvettes(from 2016-2018)
3X T-craft-class IPVs
6X new IPVs(from 2016-2018)

Patrol boats(Harbour)
30X Namacurra class
50X Riverine Patrol Boats(from 2016-2018)

Submarines
3X Heroine-class

Auxiliaries
1X AOR class(SAS Drakensberg)
1X Hecla class(SAS Protea)
1X New Hydrographic survey Ship(from 2015)

Have you seen Nigerian navy's 2008-2018 masterplan ? It beats that of South African navy blue black !
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ActivateKruger:
It's a poorman's jet so why not.

JF-17 Thunder, no poor man has bought it yet. Nigeria and Pakistan have bigger defence budget than South Africa.

Since you cannot maintain in full service only 26 Gripen jets used by 'rich' men, South Africa has been proved to be a poor man
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patches689:
much like he is always here making emotional posts

Anyway, Junk Fighter is kinda unneccesary for Nigeria considering what they need is Su-25's and Tucans supplemented by Scorpion jets

What does South Africa need Gripen jets for? Your only threat is Rhino poaching, so all you need in SAAF is ARHLAC toy plane for low intensity engagement
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ActivateKruger:
It's a poorman's jet so why not.

Saudi Arabia is poor ? Saudi Arabia Wants JF-17 after buying Eurofighter Typhoon . Olodo

MikeCZAR:
Turkey is a NATO member, are the Turks white?

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Are the Turks blacks or asians ? Which village school did you attend?
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MikeCZAR:
Jordan bought 50.

Show me where Jordan paid for 50 units, I mean paid money, not with mouth
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MikeCZAR:
I don't remember any African threatening SAN's ship.

Cause all sub-saharan African navies know, none of them can challenge SAN at sea.

Wait a few months for NNS Aradu refit and upgrade to be completed, and NNS Ambe supply ship refit, then arrival of Chinese combat ship being transferred, plus JF-17 Thunder precision air to surface weapons.

Wait till the next 3 months and see as Nigeria rebuilds all her 3 armed forces to challenge every African nation except Egypt the mighty
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patches689:
Drakensburg is newer than all of your major surface ships and all of their weapons

LOL . NNS Centenary has entered service in Lagos naval base, she is an invisible stealth ship to the old radar on SAS Drakensberg, we will sink your fat and obesse ship from 15 km away and insurance won't be able to cover your loss.

patches689:
Nope, you have not signed the deal yet.

the name will be released when tenders close on June 30, 2015

7 Frigates

Deal with it

When the design drawing is done on paper, and a name given to your imaginary OPV in 2015, come back and talk to us that you have just started on paper.

I build ships with paper when I was a kid 20 years ago.

MduZA:
big thanks to South Africa for helping Nigeria set her automotive industry....

Nissan is Japanese company. Nigeria thanks Japan.

Pegeout is French company, it's automobile plant has been in Nigeria since over 20 years ago. We thank France.

However we thank South Africa for providing their women so that Nigerian men in your country can have daily access to 'key holes' to slot in their 'keys' at random. Thanks
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patches689:
Valour Class holds the title of the first stealth ship in africa

Valour Class holds the title of the first stealth ship in africa with chronic missile shortage, 3 Exocets instead of normal 8 on each ship

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patches689:
Because the SANDF has spent the last two years studying the needs of the navy and the requirements the vessels will need as well as how to best aquire them and stimulate the economy

No the project has entered the aquisition stage with deadlines for next year june

We are not like nigeria, we do not do panic buys

Nigeria spent 3 years evaluating JF-17 Thunder before we bought it.

We also spent 2 years planning for the P18N stealth OPV before signing the contract.

Nigeria does not panic buy any expensive equipment.

We always had our T-72 tanks stored in Ukraine for many years until be asked them to modernize and ship them.

Mi-35 Hind and Mi-171 termainator helicopters have been in service for 3 years in NAF before we ordered for 40 more units.

Nigeria does not panic buy big and expensive equipment.

You like to imagine things like a day dreamer.

Centrifude:
Did any of you guys know that Zimbabwe was planing of purchasing the Jf-17?

You are personally buying for them and paying for it?
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jln115:
Just to Clarify JF-17 is a 3gen Aircraft or 3.5gen as @Aguagust will say.
Source porvided by @Agaugust

Good night Augastine going to bed, will be back will be back much later today!

Clown, try sleep with this one in your mind....I am giving you a source that says JF-17 Thunder Block II is a 4.5 Generation Fighter.

Enjoy it....

"The JF-17 Thunder/ Chengdu FC-1 Fierce Dragon, is from it´s designation a 4th Generation Jet Fighter, that was developed by China and Pakistan. It has improved BVR (Beyond Visual Range) capabilities. In 2011 the PAF put Block II versions of this fighter on order which cost 20-25 million dollars as compared to the Block-I's cost of 15-20 million dollars. The Block-II fighters are the 4.5 Generation variant equipped with AESA radars, possibly Chinese, improved ECM suites, and IRST systems. Also believed to incorporate greater use of composite materials for reducing airframe weight, radar absorbing material, and possibly a WS-10B thrust vectoring (TVC) engine."

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jln115:
All good so its know a 3.5gen Aircraft? i like how he said nothing about it being a 4gen aircraft just an advanced 3gen Aircraft and only compering it to 2nd and 3rd gen aircraft.
BTW am i allowed to join your brotherhood?

LOL PAF F-7PG is 3.5 gen so why would JF-17 be same level? LOL

Gripen is actually 3.5 gen aircraft, based on it's obsolescence, it is half step ahead of 3 gen Viggen aircraft it repalced.
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jln115:
All good so its know a 3.5gen Aircraft? i like how he said nothing about it being a 4gen aircraft just an advanced 3gen Aircraft and only compering it to 2nd and 3rd gen aircraft.
BTW am i allowed to join your brotherhood?

Your intelligence level is 3.5 gen, sorry we only accept 4 gen and above. Go back to school.

jln115:
Haha i know iam one funny guy but you provided the source that stated its a 3gen aircraft, how does it feel?

Feels funny he made that error in the beginning but corrected it at the end...how does it feel?
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jln115:
JF-17=3gen

A mistake on his part. 3rd generation aircraft don't carry JF-17 kind of avionics, we all know.

jln115:
Black brotherhood wtf dude why is it always about colour.

EU and NATO are white brotherhoods.

jln115:
Well done mate! you proved it has a HMD and dus you are in agreement that a HMD is different to a HMSD/HMS,unfortunately your same source state that it is only a 3rd Gen Aircraft.

But iam still proud of you that you provided a good credible source.

3rd Generation? LOL? Clown you are.

patches689:
Name the pilots of your 40 jf-17's

Human beings are different from ships.

The names of the existing 4 SAN frigates are known, so name the other 3....LOL
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patches689:
The "fact" you dont have a shred of evidence for?

Nigeria only has 2 pilots, this is indisputable fact

LOL...2 NAF pilots flew 1,148 combat sorties in 2 months....LOL...the 2 NAF pilots must be Super Man and Iron Man
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MikeCZAR:
Out dated? Since when do Nigerians know anything about "out dated" equipment?

NN Thunder is older than the SAS Drakensberg.

NN Aradu is older than the Drankensberg.

The new patrol ship similar to Thunder you received from the USA, is older than Drankensberg?

The missiles on Aradu aree older than her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE3170G4rhA
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