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patches689:
This guy, bragging about a potential deal.

Wait until it is in black and white.

Until then, you are still well behind us.

Butt Hurt Southie fluke

patches689:
Why on earth would we be jealous of the Junk Fighter?

Butt Hurt Soweto man

mzilakazi:
You never had SU30s and Super Tucanos at the first place. Bwahahahaha...

Butt Hurt by JF-17 and T-72 that appeared after you claimed they don't exist

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NAF makes JF-17 Thunder Thrill The World....The Gold Rush Begins In London !

Nigeria next to Egypt in African air power rankings !

South Africa backslides far behind !

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patches689:
Junk Fighter has poorly copied Chinese versions of 20 year old radars and engines that dont have enough horsepower

Again, Junk Fighter is a poor mans F-16 B40

JF-17 Thunder has a new wave of ready buyers confirmed form London air show few days ago, Nigeria is just the first and fastest buyer.

Show me how the potential buyers' list is for poor men....including Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Algeria, Iran, etc, all are oil rich nations whose current air forces are far better than that of South Africa, flying Eurofighter Typhoons and latest brand new Su-30 MK Flankers, yet they all want JF-17 Thunder now

You are just butt hurt because the trend of this forum/topic/thread has suddenly turned against South Africa to give you a bad appetite during Christmas......Pity Pity Pity

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ActivateKruger:
But the problem is that, you're only buying 12

NAF is buying 25 to 40 units of JF-17 Thunder.

First 12 is drinking the appetizer, when we top 25 we eat main dish, at 40 units we swallow the dessert-sweet.

Ol' boy na 3-course meal rich Naija dey chop belly full o !
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ActivateKruger:
There was never a Su-30 and Super Tucano on Nigerian soil....

You live in Nigeria? Beegeagle had 3 different eye witnesses.

Henry120:
Why won't they? If na you, won't you...... I would myself. 40 state of the art 4.Gen multi-role fighters, I would, no doubt.

Na Idris Deby go envy us pass with his 3 tokunbo MiG-29, while Paul Biya will soon be sending Christmas gifts to Abuja to hide his fear and trembling.

As for Jacob Zuma, he now knows what makes Nigeria a giant
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ActivateKruger:
so much for the Su-30..

Not a closed case, Su-30 Flanker was seen in Nigeria same as Super Tucano but both in just very very few numbers.

However, with NAF going for 40 units of JF-17 Thunder, the Su-30 may be returned, same way India returned them.

Also as NAF is interested in 24 Scorpion jets, the Super Tucanos may be returned.

40 Thunders + 24 Scorpions, NAF may not really need 3 Flankers + 3 Tucanos anymore, anything could happen because of the new massive acquisitions of larger numbers of aircraft
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ActivateKruger:
Unlike a Nigerian guy who owes us a photo of the Nigerian Air Force Super Tucano.

My NO photo is more honest than your FAKE photo
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ActivateKruger:
I mentioned weeks ago that you guys were buying that Junk Fighter.

hahaha

Beegeagle mentioned it months ago.

You copy cat .

onumaegbuikenna:
See as all these southies de jealous us

De envy & anger no be small o ! Southie don vex to near commit suicide o ! Abegi make una call police o ! Handcuff dem b4 dem go hang demself wit rope 4 ceiling fan.

JF-17 Thunder no commit murder o, 4give dem 4 Soweto !
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Henry120:
No, it's because you're broke, and are poor at book keeping.

So tomorrow, i'm starting a nursery school numerical class for all south-africans on this thread.

I want you to prove to the rest of your soweto nation that you can count and keep records.

patches689:
Erm, you cant read? Where does it say SAAF is broke?

Now I know why @Henry wants to open an elementary school to teach you South Africans at basic education level. Pity
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NaijaPikinGidi:
Chief EVarn ... Happy Birthday!

Man no die ... man no rotten! Na jeje we dey move!

Dis una jeje dry work o ! NAF sef don dey vex now o ! See NAF wan sign contract buy 40 brand new JF-17 Thunder 4th generation multi-role jet fighter with latest technology full am for inside, abi we wan fight against ISIS ? Dis 40 jets plenty o !

De story don waka reach London sef, oyinbo dey hear am publish !

http://pakistan.worldnewsviews.com/2014/12/05/nigeria-all-set-to-buy-25-40-jf-17-thunder-fighter-aircraft-from-pakistan/

Oga mi I know say Una dey for SILENT MODE....I understand, carry on no shaking !
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patches689:
No one cares, loser.

You are so butt hurt and nasty hearted you cannot say happy birthday to a fellow human being, what kind of a creature are you Mister Patrick alia Patches ?
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Henry120:
No, I want to know about the A109 LUH's. Tell us what's papping?

Are they been "rotated" as usual ?


I heard "Rotated" is the new word that's hot in the streets.

Talk to us.

Ya wanna trap @Patches? He read your post and decided to look the other way.....down memory lane I see Patches as the criminal who has been posting old time photos of dozens of A 109 LUH to deceive us that all the 30 helicopters are all flying today including the 4 that crashed ....LOL....all are still flying today.

Never trust a South African photo !

I can bet if someone would reveal the truth, only one South African navy frigate and submarine are fully operational today.

These Southie RSA guys tell lies a lot with old time photos that show us false pictures of reality as at today
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EVarn:
my birthday was two days ago and nobody on this thread could greet me happy birthday?!,*sighs*,@agaugust,stillchris,henry,naijapikingidi,lezz{postmann},andrewza,mzilakazi,patches689,mikeczar,dievluit,etc....y'all should like this post and show some love.

Honestly we didn't know until you said it.



Happy Birthday brother !!!!!!!!!!!



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Henry120:
All flying activities of the South African Air Force's (SAAF's) fleet of Agusta A109 Light Utility Helicopters (LUH) have ceased and, in effect, the fleet is subject to yet another grounding.

Despite the type being required by the SAAF to take pressure off the Oryx medium utility fleet, it has never lived up to expectations and the fleet has been the subject of groundings numerous times.

The most recent grounding followed a March 2013 crash when an A109 on aerial patrol in the Kruger National Park flew into ground, killing all five on board. As a result, the course converting existing helicopter pilots to the A109 was temporarily stopped, pending the investigation. After some months of inactivity, the severe budgetary constraints affecting the SAAF resulted in a shortage of funds to keep the A109 fleet flying, only returning to flying status in November that year.

Now, it appears that the surviving 26 airframes, operated by three squadrons and an advanced flying school, have been grounded once again since late October. The reason therefore is unclear, with both the SAAF and the SANDF not responding to requests for information.

Whilst lack of funds is once again being cited by sources as a cause, even more ominous is that another reason being bandied about for the grounding is poor record keeping. It is alleged that the individual responsible for keeping the technical log-books up to date has resigned, leaving the status of the books in a shambles.
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Feature: Operationally stretched SAAF flying fewer hours
A109 LUH conversion course resumes

South African Air Force
SAAF

It will take the Air Force some time to sort out and ensure that the logbooks are up-to-date and accurate, resulting in the fleet being grounded. This has affected 15 Squadron (Durban), 17 Squadron (Zwartkop), 19 Squadron (Hoedspruit) and 87 Helicopter Flying School (Bloemfontein).

The A109 ground simulator is being used so that the pilots can maintain their proficiency, particularly when it comes to instrument flying.

The A109 has been the black sheep of SAAF's helicopter fleet, never living up to expectations. Deemed too complex to convert newly qualified pilots onto helicopters, it has also been reported that the helicopter can neither carry operational loads in high heat conditions nor fly in strong wind.

According to the SAAF, typical missions for the A109 includes training, search and rescue, rope extraction & rappelling, trooping, medical evacuation (casevac), cargo transport, border patrol, peacekeeping, communications and urban operations.

The A109 LUH was purchased to replace the elderly Alouette III helicopter which had been in service since 1962 in the light utility role. Delivery of the 30 A109 helicopters purchased from the Anglo-Italian AgustaWestland helicopter company under Project Flange commenced in 2005 and has been beset with difficulties and delays. Four airframes have been written-off in crashes, some of which resulted in a temporary fleet grounding until the cause of the crash was determined. An option for a further ten aircraft was not exercised.

[size=16pt]Another proof that SANDF is currently broke [/size]

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MikeCZAR:
If this helps you sleep then believe it.

State of the art? Some developed in SA, as South Africa will be supplying EW kits and weapons.

South Africa technology is state of the art.

SAAF Gripen jets have a 20 year old generation radar and a poor maneuverability airframe plus a high fuel consumption Volvo grandfather engine
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MikeCZAR:
The Gripen:

1. Has a heavier payload.

2. More Power.

3. Faster.

4.Better radar. Out ranging.

5. 8 Hardpoints.

6. Better weapons.

7. Higher G-limit

Which makes it better, it can easily eat the JF-17.

Note: The JF-17 can't carry all those weapons and not all of them are integrated.

What makes the JF-17 better? Tell us Henry?

That chart compares JF-17 Thunder Block I as equal to Gripen C, each having strength where the other is weak or having very very minor advantages over each other.

However the JF-17 Thunder Block II is superior to the Gripen C in combat radius, state-of-the-art avionics, dog fight maneuverability, and weapon options including the shocking fact that JF-17 carries Stealth Cruise Missiles and Nuclear weapons which are beyond the wildest dreams of the outdated obsolecent Gripen C.

NAF beats SAAF all round and in all aspects, both in quality and quantity.

Expect an invasion if Pretoria misbehaves
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patches689:
Uhh... lets think for a second... because brazil is also buying the Gripen?

Brazil is buying a modern version, the Gripen NG New Generation with state of the art 2014 technology. South Africa is stuck with the old version obsolescent Gripen C/D with 20 year old technology.

NAF JF-17 devastating Thunder adds up to NAF ATR-42 Surveyor and NAF Beechcraft ISTAR making Nigeria 100 years ahead of South Africa in air power and technology with unquestionable overwhelming air superiority

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mzilakazi:
They were not deployed to literally fight the poachers as in the case of Nigerian military vs BH. They were merely enforcing security. However, poaching has been found out to be an inside job. It is committed by those who seem to look after those animals.

Yet, do not forget that my point is still firmly standing that only 10 000 of us can hold the whole of Nigeria still.

Almost 300 SANDF with heavy loads of modern DENEL made brand new weapons could NOT hold 1,500 Seleka farmer rebels that had old ancient second hand weapons purchased from black market, South African army ran away from the battlefield of Bangui after about 15 hours of combat.....maybe holding your enemy to a stand still is achieved by running to the airport and catching the next available flight to Pretoria, yes South Africa's enemy has to stand still because SANDF soldiers have all run away, Seleka stands still....no more South African army available to fight with.....Game over....stand still

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patches689:
Junk FIghter 17 Block 1 and 2 are inferior to the Gripen

Also, what is the difference between Gripen C/D and SAAF Gripen C/D?

even the people of pakistan say that the JF-17 is obsolete, and China has confirmed it by chosing the J-10 over the JF-17

only the planned block 3 will be a match for the Gripen C/D.

Enjoy your poor mans F-16


And, btw, where is your uniform and gun?

Shout Afrikaa flies 8 Gripens and ice frost froze 18 Gripen jets all old C/D versions with now obsolete radar, that's why Brazil refused to buy your outdated versions with outdated radar and avionics of almost 20 year old technology. Brazil is buying Gripen NG.....New Generation....NG version that South Africa CANNOT afford

NAF is buying 40 devastating units of devastating JF-17 Thunder with latest state of the art year 2014 technology. Do I need to remind you that we are no longer on page 1 of this thread ? Nigeria is intelligently and systematically building the second biggest and second most powerful air force in Africa, second only to Egypt.

We gonna dwarf every other country on this continent and Egypt itself has to be very careful as Nigerian military power grows wild like an angry Lion.

China is buying J-10 because they build it, Pakistan is not buying J-10 because they build their own JF-17, makes a lot of sense.

JF-17 is being used to replace F-16 and built to match the best F-16 jet in this world.

JF-17 is built to challenge Indian Su-30 MKI, not to beat the flanker but to challenge it and keep India away from Pakistan.

Pakistan may get the J-31 stealth jets to beat Indian Su-30 MKI, and in future Nigeria may follow Pakistan and NAF could buy a few J-31 stealth jets to keep up our equalization and matching with Pakistan since we train together for combat.

JF-17 has waiting customers including Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Venezuela, Sudan, Libya, Iraq, Argentina, etc.

Nigeria is gonna test JF-17 in real combat and the world will come rushing for it and NAF will train them ! Nigeria is also asking for full technology transfer of JF-17 Thunder and we want to be the second manufacturing centre for the world, we will become Africa's first nation to manufacture a 4th generation jet fighter on Afro-Soil.

Reason why the whole of Pretoria is Butt-Hurt and there may be plenty of suicides because of this....SA Police on red alert watching out for suicides

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MikeCZAR:
Tell us in which field chief.

Speed, weapons, EW, avionics, sensors and availability.

JF-17 Thunder Block I is equal to Gripen C/D of SAAF

JF-17 Thunder Block II is superior to Gripen C/D


Gripen jet of South Africa is the old 1997 version with old and out-dated radar, there is a new modern version of Gripen jet in the world market but South Africa cannot afford it, the Gripen NG that Brazil is buying.

The technology on SAAF Gripens are almost 20 year old, NAF JF-17 Thunder is carrying current year 2014 technology.


NAF with 40 units of JF-17 Thunder + 11 F-7NI has unquestionable air superiority over SAAF.

Nigeria will soon be roasting South Africa

@LaBelle my SA ba.by girl, run to me for protection, Pretoria is gonna be invaded, come hide in my b.e.droom for 'safety' under my 'protection'.....do you like twins? I mean giving birth to twins?


https://www.pafwallpapers.com/gallery_JF-17/JF-17_flares-02.jpg


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DieVluit:
Define "most valuable".

And then tell us how far Nigeria is from "self-suffiency".

South Africa boasts of military equipment exports, regardless. What does Nigeria boast of? Major purchases as shown in this thread?

All the weapons South Africa depends on to win war are imported from your white masters in Europe :

1. Gripen Jets

2. Hawk Jets

3. Rooivalk Combat Helicopter engines, it's cannon and rockets

4. Oryx Helicopter is Puma Helicopter

5. Hercules C-130 transports

6. Oerlikon anti-aircraft guns

7. Starstreak anti-aircraft missiles

8. Olifant tank is Centurion tank

9. Valour Frigate warships

10. Heroine Submarines

11. Torpedoes

12. Exocet anti-ship missiles

13. ...And many more !!


Remove all these European made heavy weapons from South Africa and watch Ghana defeat South Africa in war !
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patches689: First, you dont need 4th gen. You need a CAS platform that is rugged and cheap. This is the Scorpion

patches689:
It is clear you cannot afford scorpion and Thunders as well.

#RebelWorthyAirforce

patches689:
Yes, and those Jets are Textron AirLand Scorpions

Which you need to buy because you have no platforms that can deliver precision munitions.

Your rebel-worthyness increases by the day

patches689:
NIGERIA IS SIMPLY ACQUIRING SH!TTY SCORPION JETS!!!

NO JF-17 THUNDERS!!

REBEL WORTHY AIRCRAFT FOR A REBEL WORTHY AIRFORCE!!

[size=16pt]Next time South Africans, never underestimate Nigeria's might and power

Watch what you say with your leaking basket mouths

More military surprises coming soon....Watch this space !

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mzilakazi:
Poachers are not military formation nor militants, they are just criminals who sneak around in the dark.

Fact is that SANDF 21 battalion and Special Forces plus SAAF were deployed to fight against Rhino poachers in South Africa. Live with that fact
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patches689:
Your source?

South Africa is a village cut off from world news.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/politics/story/1.2749672
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mzilakazi:
Bwahahahaha...... Only 10 000 SANDF soldiers can hold the whole of Nigeria under siege.

A few hundred Rhino poachers held SANDF, SAAF, Rangers, Special forces, and your entire South African nation under siege till you begged Botswana for help
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patches689:
Look at the manufacturers documents.

Notice the Italian versian is posted seperate to the Nigerian version

Notice the equipment is different

Thus, yours is not the same as the Italian version.

Thus, factually, yours has a range of 220km.

That is that. Straight from the manufacturer.

#Show me a source that says the radars are different

NAF says our own ATR-42MP has ~ 300km radar range, go hug 10,000 Volts electricity transformer if the fact hurts you
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