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jln115:
Dude?? didnt you understand the video?? the first few seconds shows how the old equipment of the SANDF/SADF morphs into the newer equipment....The Mirage morphed into the Cheetah, the G5 into the G6, the Olifant 1 into the MK1b..........the actual exercised that was filmed was from 2005!

Wake up please!!

Oh, you now agree it was old Mirage F1....LOL....now show proof of time date stamp or narration, or else shutt da fvck up with ya fraud !

Henry240:
There armoured vehicles are always so close to each other. A bomb feast for any insurgent.

LOL....easy target for Boko Haram barrage of RPGs coming from all directions. For a Boko Haram 105 mm artillery shell, it's feasting time.

Patchesagain:
Max range on the ERC 90's gun: 900m

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3587.html

Max range on the Rooikats gun: 2000m

Fool and liar, Sagaie gun fired up to 1660m NOT the fvcking lie of 900m

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3586.html

Rooikat gun cannot shoot straight....it's a naval gun put on a army vehicle, reason why it missed target during the sea exercise in South Africa, Mr.Day was targeted and 76mm gun missed, Mr.Day is enjoying with is wife as we speak !

jln115:
What?? the 76mm is known for its accuracy up to 2000m?? and you never posted a source that prove your claims!!

I have been on this forum since year 2012....were you here then? You read all my 12,000 nairaland comments ? I posted it, see the archives 2012-2014

mzilakazi:
Rooikat was featured in the bush war.

Prove it now
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jln115:
Impala was retired in 2005, Cheetah( Which was seen extensively in the video) was retired in 2008...The Video is from 2005

Its a mix of different old and new videos, first jets flying were old Mirage F-1 not Cheetah, Mirage was long retired before 2005 you fool !

Patchesagain:
Its a inter brigade competition

There is no mention of brigade maneuvers and no footage of it either, or any vehicals or aircraft or artillery

All we see is small groups of men from each brigade comepeting against each other

Its a military sports day - THEY EVEN HAVE A FVCKING PRIZE GIVING

You obviously have not watched the video

Fact is simple, Nigerian army is incapable of conducting execises of the scope and scale that the SANDF pulls off

What is the name of that sport then....soccer, tennis...basketball ?

LOL....Cape Colony half-wit, Combat Proficiency Competition is NOT a sports proficiency competition.

The title and major general's speech tells it all.

That video shocked you.

LOL.....let me torment Southies again.....in 2009 Nigerian army, navy, and air force had a major brigade level exercise called OPERATION OLOGUN META.....local language meaning three armed forces.



"A Brigade of the Nigerian Army, three mother naval cat class-warships – NNS KYANWA, NNS OBULA and NNS NWAMBA - and six squadrons of Nigerian Air Force aircraft are participating in in the exercise. Chief of Defence Staff, Air Chief Marshal Paul Dike, explained that the conduct of the joint exercise was borne out of “the desire to exercise our troops in a tri-service setting.


The exercise involved beach landing operations, riverine operations and insertion of troops, advance quick attack, deliberate attack phase and internal security operations.

Chief of Defence Staff, Air Chief Marshal Paul Dike, explained that the conduct of the joint exercise was borne out of “the desire to exercise our troops in a tri-service setting in year 2009.

The exercise, he said, “will essentially serve as a platform for us to test our intelligence gathering abilities, check the interoperability of our communication facilities as well as testing our Command and Control capability. At the end of the whole exercise, the lessons learnt will be used in improving our operational procedures in current and future operations,” he said.

The Nigerian military last held an exercise of this magnitude in May 2004, when it organised Operation TAKUTE EKPE in Lagos.

The exercise climaxed display of months of operations, weeks of reconnaissance and days of rehearsals. The officers and men involved in JOPEX 09 were involved in beach landing operations, harbour defence, riverine operations and insertion of troops, advance quick attack, deliberate attack phase and Internal Security Operations (ISOs).

The beach landing part of the exercise had commenced last Monday just as the Chief of Defence Staff, Air Chief Marshal Paul Dike was finishing his welcome address. It involved the simulation of naval and combat aircraft bombardments boomed all around the surrounding beachfront, signalling the start of assault on enemy positions."

http://www.panapress.com/Joint-military-exercise-kicks-off-in-Nigeria--13-523780-17-lang2-index.html



I just gave you two other, even bigger NAF + NN + NA joint service military exercise at brigade level in modern times.

1. Operation TAKUTE EKPE....year 2004

2. Operation OLOGUN META.....year 2009

Shame on ALL Southie liars, Nigerian military conducts regular brigade level and above joint army, navy, air force exercises
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mzilakazi:
What about in DRC? What do you call that?

http://www.africandefence.net/after-23-years-rooivalks-fire-first-shots-in-drc/

I meant Rooikat you dunce, we were comparing Rooikat Vs Sagaie

Patchesagain:
25 years of constant war

What year to what year?

jln115:
I would bet my left testicle that neither Algeria or Egypt have a military wide tactical data link!

We dont work on betting game here, show us proof....weblink....prove your claim.

Patchesagain:
Beegugugs blog

You know you said it.

So you have no proof it's me....I said prove it now !

Patchesagain:
Tell that to the 80 000 illegals the SANDF captured on the border in just 6 months

You catch only hungry harmeless immigrants looking for jobs.....and not up to 80,000.

The armed criminals walk under the open legs of a confused SANDF that fails in it's mandate at home to protect your fatherland

Patchesagain:
He teaches doctrine

His role as a supervisor for your army is well recorded on beegugug's blog

Light infantry doctrine, motorized infantry. He is NOT a trained armoured corp or artillery soldier.

Patchesagain:
1. No, not the same - Mbombe is protected against IED's (10kg under wheel, 50kg at 5m) and RPG's
https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/7211/

Igirigi is not firing 23 mm x 2 cannot at underneath the chassis of Mbombe you dunce ! Igirigi is shooting the body/hull and killing all occupants.

jln115:
Since when did the 30 year ago apartheid SADF have so many black soldiers? Or since when did they have Olifant MK1B? or since when did they wear Soldier 2000 camo? and FINALLY SINCE WHEN DID THE SADF HAVE THE ROOIVALK 30 YEARS AGO??

Since when did SAAF stop flying Impala and Mirage jets NOT even cheetah, old Mirage F-1 jets? Whom do you wanna fool? The video is a mix of Apartheid and ANC era military exercise.....it's an old video !

Patchesagain:
You are about 70 years behind us in regards to vehical manufacture

Build something that beats what we built in WW2 and then come talk to us

Your manufacturing industry is 90% owned and ruled by Europeans, we proved that already.

Patchesagain:
We are talking about data-links

You asked if Algeria or Egypt has them

We said: We dont know and we dont fvcking care

Same way you don't know if Nigeria has tactical data-link....or the rule is different when you assess Algeria-Egypt ?

Double standards....means you do not know what you claim, you have no proof !

jln115:
Our Rooikat's gun is more powerful, in fact it replaced our Eland 90 which had basically the same 90mm gun as your Sagaie.....The Rooikat is also faster, more maneuverable and has a much more modern fire control system, the Rooikat can also fire accurately fire on the move....Your Sagaie stand 0 chance against the Rooikat.

Your Rooikat has ZERO test in any war.....and it's 76 mm gun CANNOT shoot straight, I posted the South African source here last year

Patchesagain:
3. That is not an EXERCISE - it is an inter-brigade competition, swimming races/oreinteering and such - not feild maneuvers. You should watch things before you post them

You deliberately omitted field exercises that involves artillery, and field obstacle crossing.

Did you hear the word sports mentioned anywhere in the video or by the army commandant ?

You do sports with full combat kit and weapons like artillery?

Title is "Inter-Brigade Combat Proficiency Competition" designed for new war trends of modified training.

The competition is our own usual added flavour to training exercises.

Your SANDF is not creative enough to add that.

Patchesagain:
1. Video is from 2005

Prove it !!!
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jln115:
Well in that case the Ratel is the best IFV in the world!! You wont get more battle tested than the Ratel!!

Bradley IFV fought two gulf wars against mighty Iraqi military of Saddam and one war against Taliban in Afghanistan.

How does Ratel IFV match that world record?

mzilakazi:
One mbombe missile = 10 Sagaie

One BTR-4 missile = 10 Mbombe

mzilakazi:


Mbombe has missile launchers and is bullet resistant.

Igirigi too is bullet resistant you dunce.

Not all Mbombe carry missiles, it's not standard. Nigeria too can mount missiles on Igirigi.

Patchesagain:
How is modern warfare different to what we did?

Ask Chad, Niger Republique, Nigeria about FLINTLOCK war style....the videos are free on youtube

Patchesagain:
Rag-tag musket armed boko haram kicked you out of 40 towns and cities... god alone knows the kind of analdevistation the SANDF will wreak on you

Weapon smugglers, robbers, assassins, rhino thieves, armed bandits from Zimbabwe, Mozambique, etc are WRECKING the SANDF battalions deployed, crossing FREELY into your own fatherland's borders on a daily basis....your army cannot even secure your homeland borders, so how will they fight 20,000 Boko Haram if the Bokos already live inside your own cities spread across the nation with anti-aircraft guns and RPGs ?

Patchesagain:
You have personally admitted that Nigeria does not have one.

And stop changing the argument - you are all over the place.

Quote where I said so.

Prove it's me.

mzilakazi:
You are not in the military but you decide ignorantly that the exercise is outdated. The same drills were tended to your military by Mr Barlow and it worked against Boko Haram. Those very drills were considered to be among top 10 in the world.


http://www.onlinecollege.org/10-most-prestigious-military-academies-in-the-world/

The same drills that SANDF uses and armed men criss cross your border daily under the noses of battalions of SANDF troops trained at your 'prestigious' military academy and posted to protect your borders, yet fail woefully everyday as arms smugglers, assassins, poachers, ets play hide and seek in your fatherland bush land, dribbling Mandela's soldiers like Tom & Jerry cartoon.....yet you claim Col. Eben Barlow is your South African war expert.....has he saved you? Has your academy of prestige training saved you at homeland ?

Incompetent inexperienced SANDF buffooooonns
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mzilakazi:
You are not in the military but you decide ignorantly that the exercise is outdated. The same drills were tended to your military by Mr Barlow and it worked against Boko Haram. Those very drills were considered to be among top 10 in the world.


http://www.onlinecollege.org/10-most-prestigious-military-academies-in-the-world/

Mr. Balow trained 120 of our troops on use of MRAP and light machine guns. He is just a basic infantry rifle officer, not a composite mechanized brigade officer. His tactics were basically hot pursit, hit and run guerrilla tactics, that is what he knows .

How does that relate to Nigeria using tactics to fight with thousands of tanks, IFV, APC, heavy artillery ? Barlow teaches about Bofors artillery?

mzilakazi:
Boko is fighting with animal rifles, I am just wondering what would happen if they can be in possession of machine guns like Seleka rebels were when they were facing SANDF

That is what Nigerian army has reduced Boko Haram down to. The Bokos in January 2015, had T-55 tanks, MOWAG APC, 105mm self propelled mobile artillery, Shilka AAA, many anti-aircraft caliber 23 mm x 4 barrel, 14.5 mm x 2 twin barrel, unguided heavy rockets, 12.7 mm Dhsk heavy machine guns, RPG, mortars, etc.....now Nigerian army has eaten up all their weapons in battle.

SANDF has never done that anywhere in 20 years......with your inexperienced army that has 1970s style training copied from World War II
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mzilakazi:
Prove that he is an enemy.

Nigerian army killed him in battle and got his head off....that's an enemy....or is he your cousin ?

Patchesagain:
the same sheet metal? So they have the same STANAG rating? citations please

Yes same metal sheet protection for Mbombe and Igirigi, both are hull protected from 7.62 mm bullets only.

STANAG rating wont save the Mbombe you dunce, 23 mm x 2 double barrel cannon from Igirigi will kill everything inside that Mbombe
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Henry240:
Commanders begging for equipments weeks after weeks and none, not even an additional MRAP delivered, doesn't show an SANDF that is properly equipped.


Your Airforce has to rely on charter services because you only have 3 old C-130s in active service for a country of over 1500km in size.

Your countries over-dependence on world war II relics is well known and well documented.


"Why don't we jack that figure up to 20,000 men?". facts,

- Seleka laid waste to SANDF elite troops

- Seleka took over the capital and government

- Bozize fled

- SANDF fled


Pity your 1970s tactics couldn't help you against hoe wielding farmers.

SANDF obsolete training and combat tactics is like a football match set piece....

Goalkeeper stand still there and defenders line up there, We will line up our team here, we want to play free kick now o !

https://www.bloemfonteincourant.co.za/img/g20150826-082900-827_u11.jpg
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