₦airaland Forum

CAMEROONPRIDE: you right.
I don't know either.
Eh eh, we don't have anything.peaceful and tiny

sithwell: You shouldn't use this words when you're talking about another man. Please rephrase

sithwell: .

CFCfan: Nigeria, the GIANT of Africa, has the strongest military in the black race!

Up Naija! Good People, Great Nation.

Sybellah: kk these r some few pics

https://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1316/51696736su0.jpg

LT SHANGY: I think the casualty rate was downplayed by the SA govt.. A reporter counted more than 50 bags being loaded on a plane.. Just to save face

pleep: The ivory coast army is blacker than a trillion midnights....

sithwell: Wow - the Nigerians cleaned up good here .

Nice ceremonial dress.

But most importantly - the guys are standing in a straight line. There's hope!

Fighter Pilot: This chapter must be closed once and for all because we all know that Nigeria and South Africa can never compete on the level of arms manufacturing industries. We all know that Nigeria is new and upcoming which regard to the aforementioned industry.

all4naija: It is not about we manufacture for the world. We manufacture to consume. Whatever we produced for our military is for our military and by our military and to make it secret. That is a classified thing though.

Nothing is classified in SA because they lack weapons that are needed in that level of things in the military.

saengine: I can almost smell your jealously through my screen. It must really hurt you. The day ANY piece of Nigerian developed military technology finds it's way to any country in the West, then we can talk small boy.

saengine: By the way, the Hawk Jets were assembled in SOUTH AFRICA. South Africa was the only country that BAE has ever allowed to assemble it's jets outside of Britain.


And please advice us, what use are they without the weapons they use? Except the submarines, all the jets and frigates you listed use South African weapons on them. Can you say that for Nigeria? No you can't.

Fighter Pilot: Agaugust are you really sure that you are doing research on military industry in the US? Please do not try to reduce the level of research of the US to that level. Our research in SA are not done by amateurs and not even the retired colonel reach that level unless they have furthered their studies to masters and doctorate level. The reason why SA, Britain and the US have their academy run by civilian universities is because such institutions are good on conducting research about any aspect in military industry and technology. The colonels can know a lot about military through their experience, history and education but surely do not have a licence unless they have an advantage of having studied further after their BMil degree.

Furthermore, your post above is nothing compared to mine.

sithwell: In which movie did these people see electricity? Starwars?

snydergp: Over a 90m Nigerians have never even seen a light bulb, yet you claim to be the "Giants of africa", while you produce less then 7000MW daily

snydergp: What ground troops are you talking about is it the same Naija infantry fools who ran away and lost man in a attack by Darfur militants and who was subsequently sent home by the GOC for there disgraceful conduct.

snydergp: Now Nigeria only manufactures a 1970's look alike APC, few AK's and RPG's now what's so impressive about that.

snydergp: Now SA manufactures 80% of all its military means in house and there's less then 10 nations who can boast about that. SA even manufactures the Fuselage and critical cockpit components on the Airbus-400M, something which Nigeria can only dream about.

snydergp: Over a 90m Nigerians have never even seen a light bulb, yet you claim to be the "Giants of africa", while you produce less then 7000MW daily

snydergp: What ground troops are you talking about is it the same Naija infantry fools who ran away and lost man in a attack by Darfur militants and who was subsequently sent home by the GOC for there disgraceful conduct.

snydergp: Now Nigeria only manufactures a 1970's look alike APC, few AK's and RPG's now what's so impressive about that.

snydergp: Now SA manufactures 80% of all its military means in house and there's less then 10 nations who can boast about that. SA even manufactures the Fuselage and critical cockpit components on the Airbus-400M, something which Nigeria can only dream about.

Fynline: This is Nigeria contingent in Mali, AFISMA

Fighter Pilot: Furthermore, your post above is nothing compared to mine.

all4naija: Although, I am not a soldier. Merely looking at that image you would agree with me the first soldier is not handling the weapon the right way. He is point the weapon downward instead of parallel to his own face level.These men will be easy preys for CAR child rebels. .

souldust: @fighter pilot forgive me for bringing this arguement which you think is irrelevant. I just have to show to the likes of sithwell how ignorant they are

Fighter Pilot: Unfortunately, from the onset, you have failed to display qualities of your highly purported reputable military knowledge. It is however very clear to me that you are not what you claim to be, simply because good military expects to the level of colonel as you have asserted, do not go about making such faulty and flawed statements about judging one country's military power using such factors as those you have mentioned above. It is evident however that the imperialist powers have corrupted your logic and left you with hardly anything of value to reason objectively. Since, I have seen that your aptitude concerning military affairs is narrowly limited, I wouldn't proceed further with this discussion because you failed to portray the basics of analysing military power of any country.

Any country's military power is judged in accordance with the following factors;

1. Firepower which is the total number of one country hardware inventory;
2. Modernisation of their weapons, eg, Roland SAM is too old to be used to stop the offensive of the. new generations fighter jets;
3. Military science and technology of one country;
4. Economic power of one country, that is, any country must have the financial muscle and means to procure arms to avoid fighting with clubs and knobkerries;
5. The military strength of one country depending on the level of literacy of their militants, eg, half a million of illiterate soldiers can easily be defeated by just only 80 000 educated soldiers. Military research have shown that educated soldiers execute commands better than soldiers with limited cognitive abilities; and
6. Credibility of military academy of one country. In the case of SA and US are run by reputable civilian universities as faculty of military sciences.

agaugust: IOLO, I RESPECT YOUR MANNER OF APPROACH AND SOUND THINKING FACULTY. I STOPPED COMMENTING ON THIS TOPIC BECAUSE OF SOME SEMI-ILLITERATE SOUTH AFRICAN 'SOLDIERS' AND CIVILIANS WHO USE INSULTING LANGUAGE AND BIASED JUDGEMENT TO POST COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC OF AFRICA'S TOP TEN MILITARY POWERS (COUNTRIES). YOUR GOOD THINKING MADE ME COMMENT AGAIN FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO BE INFORMED.

MILITARY RANKING IS SOMETIMES DONE USING INAPPROPRIATE FACTORS TO JUDGE
MILITARY RANKING IS OFTEN DONE BY PEOPLE WHO LACK THE TECHNICAL SKILL AND KNOWLEDGE TO JUDGE

MILITARY RANKING IS BEST JUDGED BY A COMBINATION OF ARMY, NAVY, AIR FORCE OFFICERS ABOVE THE RANK OF A MAJOR WITH CONTRIBUTION FROM WAR HISTORIANS AND MILITARY STRATEGISTS. ALL OF US WHO COMMENT ON THIS TOPIC ON NAIRALAND LACK THESE QUALIFICATIONS, SO I DECIDED TO CONSULT A TEAM OF SENIOR MILITARY MEN AND WAR HISTORIANS IN THE USA WHERE I WORK WITH A PRIVATE MILITARY CONSULTANCY COMPANY AS AN AFRICAN RESEARCH SUPPORT STAFF.

ONE MAN I WILL RESPECT HIS OPINION ON AFRICAN MILITARY RANKINGS IS DIMEJI BANKOLE EX-SPEAKER HOUSE OF REPS NIGERIA, HE IS A FORMER BRITISH ARMY OFFICER AND HAS A MASTERS DEGREE IN MILITARY STRATEGY.

THE AMERICAN TEAM I CONSULTED HAVE TOLD ME THE CRITICAL FACTORS USED TO JUDGE MILITARY POWER AND I USED THAT TO MAKE MY RANKINGS.
THESE CRITICAL FACTORS OF POWER INCLUDE BUT NOT LIMITED TO :

(1) CURRENT EQUIPMENT IN SERVICE AND COMBAT READY OR IN SAFE STORAGE (UKRAINE'S AIR FORCE 100 JETS ACTIVE, 200 JETS IN SAFE STORAGE)

(2) NUMBER OF COMBAT MEN IN SERVICE AND TRAINED RESERVISTS (NORTH KOREAN ARMY DETERRENT TO THE WEST BASED ON 1950 KOERAN WAR OF NUMBERS)

(3) ABILITY OF THE MEN TO USE THEIR EQUIPMENT TO MAXIMUM BATTLEFIELD EFFECTIVENESS (ETHIOPIAN AIR FORCE DOG FIGHT PILOTS)

(4) CALIBRE AND QUALITY OF OFFICERS FROM LIEUTENANT COLONEL TO 5 STAR GENERAL (ISRAELI ARMY OFFICERS IN WAR TACTICS)

(5) PREVIOUS AND RECENT COMBAT EXPLOITS OF THE FORCES (ISRAELI MILITARY HISTORY 1967 TO 2013)

(6) HISTORIC FIGHTING MORALE OF THE SOLDIERS (GURKHA ARMY ORIGINATING OF ASIAN NEPAL NATION NOW IN THE BRITISH ARMY)

(7) ABILITY OF THE MILITARY TO TRANSFORM RAPIDLY AND INCREASE ITS BATTLE FIELD POTENCY WITHIN THE FIRST FEW WEEKS OF WAR (UKRAINE'S WEAPONS IN SAFE STORAGE)


SOME TWO FACTORS COMMONLY USE BY THE UNTRAINED, ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO JUDGE MILTARY POWER, THEY ARE :

MILITARY BUDGET IS NOT AN EASY FACTOR TO USE BECAUSE OF FRAUD BY CORRUPT GOVERNMENTS LIKE ANGOLA AND ZIMBABWE WHO STEAL BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE NAME OF DEFENSE SPENDING, IT IS COMMON IN AFRICA. ALSO SOME SPEND MORE OF RECURRENT EXPENDITURE AND NOT CAPITAL EXPENDITURE DUE TO SOLDIERS HUGE SALARIES OR CONSUMPTION OF BATTLEFIELD ORDINANCE AND MUNITIONS DURING AN ONGOING WAR LIKE SUDAN.


MILITARY WEAPONS MANUFACTURING LOCALLY IS NOT ALSO A GOOD FACTOR TO JUDGE BECAUSE USSR SOVIET ERA MISTAKES HAS TAUGHT THE WHOLE WORLD A LESSON THAT GOVERNMENT 100% FUNDING OF DEFENSE INDUSTRIES WILL KILL THE ECONOMY IN THE LONG RUN. SO MOST COUNTRIES PRIVATIZE WEAPONS MANUFACTURING. THIS IS THE REASON WHY DENEL OF SOUTH AFRICA IS NOW BEING SLOWLY PRIVATIZED. ALSO THE WEAPONS PRODUCED IN A CAPITALIST COUNTRY HAS TO BE FULLY PAID FOR BY THE GOVERNMENT TO BUY FOR EQUIPPING THEIR MILITARY, UNLIKE THE USSR SOVIET ECONOMY OF THE PAST WHICH COLLECTED LARGE NUMBERS OF WEAPONRY FOR THE COLD WAR WITHOUT PROPER ECONOMIC DEALING WITH THE MANUFACTURERS, AND THAT IS PART OF WHAT COLLAPSED THE SOVIET UNIONS ECONOMY LEADING TO PRESIDENT GORBACHEV'S GLASNOST AND PERESTROIKA POLICY CHANGES.

ALSO EXPAINS WHY SOUTH AFRICA MANUFACTURES THE ROOIVAK HELICOPTER GUNSHIP BUT HAS JUST LESS THAN 15 OF THE AIRCRAFT IN ITS OWN AIR FORCE, COMPARE THAT TO EGYPT WHICH DOES NOT MANUFACTURE HELICOPTER GUNSHIPS BUT HAS 150 AIRCRAFT IN ITS AIR FORCE (INCLUDING AMERICAN MADE APACHE HELICOPTERS) TEN TIMES THAT OF SOUTH AFRICA WHICH BOASTS OF MANUFACTURING. SO IN AN HELICOPTER COMBAT WHO WILL WIN ? EGYPT OR SOUTH AFRICA ? LET THE PUBLIC JUDGE WITH THEIR COMMON SENSE ! WEAPONS COST BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO PRODUCE IN LARGE NUMBERS. WHAT YOU PRODUCE DOES NOT FIGHT A WAR FOR YOU UNLESS YOU BUY IT AND EQUIP YOUR MILITARY WITH IT. VERY SIMPLE LOGIC.


THUS I USED THE 7 CRITICAL POINTS ABOVE TO MAKE MY RANKING OF AFRICA'S TOP TEN MILITARY POWERS......

Fighter Pilot: Roland SAM is too old to be used to stop the offensive of the. new generations