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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:27pm On Mar 31, 2013
patriot4: Can someone end this topic please ?
I am starting to have pitty for the South africans.
At the begginning I just couldn't take the level of ignorance they were using to mock us, now I just feel sad for them.
Please moderator, end this topic.
has andrewza finally got one of his teenage sisters agree to marry you ? i suspect your sudden change of heart ! lol grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:01pm On Mar 31, 2013
nig2change: Pls SA troops were fighting child soldiers. See link. http://m.timesofindia.com/world/rest-of-world/Child-soldiers-killed-in-Central-African-Republic-South-African-troops-claim/articleshow/19309919.cms?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=tweets

i thought south africans say AK-47 rifle is outdated, why did they die when child soldiers fired AK-47 bullets on south african army in CAR ? grin


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:07pm On Mar 31, 2013
...dictators like laurent gabgbo of ivory coast...
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:01pm On Mar 31, 2013
agaugust:
where is @snydergp and @msauza ? both KIA or MIA in CAR ?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
andrewza: Yes. But it is true non the less.

where is @snydergp and @msauza ? both KIA or MIA in CAR ?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:32pm On Mar 31, 2013
patriot4: Names of NGO's and links their reports, please.
Everyone here, even the SA boys are now convinced I was saying the truth, I think it is impossible to show you the truth. You are like a blind man.
even if @andrewza wants to surrender to @patriot4, he won't be able because south African soldiers lost their white flag while running away so fast from the CAR rebels.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:15pm On Mar 31, 2013
patriot4: An other SA lie exposed: the number of AU troops in the base that was overran by the 1000 strong heavilly armed rebels was 150:
"About 150 peacekeepers, most from Nigeria, had been stationed at the Haskanita base, but they had been grounded since June because of the insecurity in the area."
And look at the type of weapons they were carrying:
"The rebels used armored vehicles and rocket-propelled grenades, an indication that they are more heavily armed than previously believed, peacekeepers said."
And look at what happened:
"We battled for hours, but when we ran out of ammunition"
And Nigeria lost only 7 soldiers: "Speaking in Ethiopia, the AU's top peace and security official, Said Djinnit, said 10 peacekeepers were killed in the attack. AU officers said the dead included a police officer from Senegal, two military observers from Botswana and Mali and seven soldiers from Nigeria"
http://azdailysun.com/news/world/rebels-overrun-peacekeeper-base-in-darfur-killing/article_0c6314da-e7a1-528c-805a-c54881799a58.html
...and this finally settles it !



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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:11pm On Mar 31, 2013
patriot4: To finish with, let's pay tribute to the best armed forces on the African continent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_5yfZo1rJM
A W E S O M E !!!




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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:06pm On Mar 31, 2013
patriot4: "South Africa: Incompetence Order of the Day"
"The Defence Force has come to accept dishonesty, incompetence and laziness in its officer corps.

Officers who fail courses are retrospectively passed; officers who are thrown off courses because they are not doing the work, are reinstated and passed; officers who cheat are passed; incompetent officers are kept in posts and promoted; and an officer who presented fraudulent degrees has been kept in service.
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http://allafrica.com/stories/200701090701.html
@andrewza, I am only quoting the man you said you trust.
Oh my God !



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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:05pm On Mar 31, 2013
EFCC1: Im currently @ NDA barracks in Kaduna with ma elder bro who is a military man we got talkin about military matter n i decided to ask him same question being discussed here..He emphatetically stated dat no country in africa can match Nigeria in terms of military.i even prostested n made him aware of Egypt n SA military capability but he dismiss those beleieve n told me dat only SA come close to Nigeria in military ranking.
Thanks for your sincere contribution from a source inside Nigerian army.

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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:52pm On Mar 31, 2013
patriot4: Look I have posted numerous reports saying SA got badly beaten, including UN, Redcross, French and rebel sources.
It might be time for you to admit it. I know you were (or might still be) a South african soldier.
But, your boys lost, take it like a man.
Your boys just don't know how to fight.
By the way, have you started swallowing your mobile phone yet ?
@andrewza, offer your 18 year old female cousin to @patriot4 in marriage and am sure the guy will leave you alone.


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:50am On Mar 31, 2013
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:44am On Mar 31, 2013
andrewza: MRAP(all of them are bassically coppies of SA APCs)
Ingwen AGM
Draankesberg the largest naval ship built in africa
The LEO 150
The 6 shot MGL
The turret used on the badger
The TRT25 turret for RG35 and RG41
G6/5 52
The A dater
The umkonto SAM
Link ZA

Should I go on. This list can get long.
south africa produced all these weapons listed above, yet illiterate rebels of CAR used your army for target practice and your soldiers ran faster than a cheetah ?


what would have happened if it was nigerian army or ethiopian army that attacked you ? will you start to pee pee in your p.anties while you run for dear life ? running like rabbits that saw a hunter ?

i thought you south africans always laugh at nigerian army AK-47 rifles, why did your soldiers run away when they saw plenty plenty AK-47 rifles in the hands of illiterate CAR rebels ? i thought you said AK-47 is outdated rifle ?

i am far better military analyst than you south african guys, i am not a soldier, but at least my civilian brain knows real war more than all of you combined together. you always say on this forum that numbers dont matter in war, but why did you 200 south african soldiers compete with usain bolt 100m record when you saw 1,000 rebels from CAR ? you should have used your better and far more modern weapons to kill all the 1,000 to 3,000 CAR rebels in the whole country.

so what will you do when you face 150,000 highly trained nigerian army soldiers ?

go back and read my first 3 posts when i joined this forum on page 12, i said it and i am proved right...number of soldiers matter in war...as USA ehy they ran away from korean war 1950-1953 the moment china joined the battle with soldiers swarming like honey bees...US Army ran away and pulled out of korean war.

nigerian army numbers alone is a big danger to south african army. how will you fight us in an urban warfare terrain when we out number you ratio 3 : 1 and the battle is in a built up city like new york city, house to house, hand to hand combat. jet fighters, artillery, armoured tanks become useless, both armies too close and mixed up in the many houses and buildings.


how will south africa fight nigeria or ethiopia in that situation ?

@andrewza, a civilian can be right and you can be wrong, its a matter of who knows the reality of war from history in the past 100 years as recorded.


please if anyone employs a south african soldier as personal body guard, remember to still obtain a life insurance policy cover so that your wife does not become a young widow.


see photos below.... the lamentations of jacob zuma, zulu king of soweto republic.

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:19am On Mar 31, 2013
Henry120: Ok, GOOD. how did the stuff you are making now, help you out in CARhuh Seleka rebels should be ranked higher than SANDF. Your army was completely embarrassed in CAR.
hahahaha hohohoo hihihihi hahahah !!!! grin grin grin grin grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:46pm On Mar 30, 2013
andrewza: MRAP(all of them are bassically coppies of SA APCs)
Ingwen AGM
Draankesberg the largest naval ship built in africa
The LEO 150
The 6 shot MGL
The turret used on the badger
The TRT25 turret for RG35 and RG41
G6/5 52
The A dater
The umkonto SAM
Link ZA

Should I go on. This list can get long.
...and your south african army still got disgraced by local rebels of CAR....


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
sheyie2007: largest?source?
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please go to page 103 of this thread. i posted it. source is janes's defence international publication.



nigerian navy has the largest 10m to 60m vessel force in the world with over 300 vessels now. i googled USA, Russia, China, etc, nigerian navy is world number one in that aspect, and almost all the vessels in that category are latest modern technology nigerian navy purchased between years 2008 and 2013.



great things have happened to nigerian navy in the last 5 years, extraordinary transformation, and many more still coming to us in the multi billion dollar nigerian navy new weapons spending jamboree.

i wanted to post nigerian navy vs south african navy during the week, but the many comments of people on south african CAR failed peace keeping mission took over this thread and i had to bow to public wishes.


i wanted to deal with the NNS ARADU issue because it is no longer nigerian navy main warship, finance minister okonjo iweala confirmed nigerian navy paid China for two year 2014 technology stealth light frigates with missiles, helicopters, anti-missile, electronic counter measures and jamming devices loaded, and they are specially designed for anti-submarine warfare against USA navy submarines and stealth frigates threat on China in the south china sea near Taiwan.



the south african submarines boasted about here will taste some bitter pills from those new nigerian navy stealth ASW light frigates when they arrive anytime from 2014, and one of the two will be built 50% in nigeria, especially the electronics aspects we want to get the technology from china for our own locally built small warships like the second NNS ANDONI is under construction now in lagos 100% locally made.

photos below of the new nigerian navy main warships under construction with latest year 2013/2014 technology and weapons, specially built for very advanced anti-submarine warfare and anti-ships capabilities


@sheyie2007 please go relax bro, nigerian navy is preparing well for any south african navy challenge, forget NNS ARADU, we only want to keep that for history purposes as flag ship, not our main warship anymore.


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:26am On Mar 30, 2013
the south africans have disappeared from nairaland forum today, surely to search for fresh propaganda lies to post tomorrow. grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:35am On Mar 30, 2013
pleep: @ south Africa

[size=20pt]WERE WAS YOUR MIGHTY ROOIVALK!?[/size]
Inside Photograhs.


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
patriot3: The rebels saying what happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucqyy0NDtPY
This confirms the first french report which I posted.
They came in two collons against the SA boys and they defeated them before moving forward.
We may wish to adjust African military rankings again. I am thinking Angola, Eritrea, South Africa may be at same position on African military rankings table.

Its useless to have a well photographed and videoed military that has very poor war strategy and below average officers intelligence.

South Africa in deep mud, soaked, drowned in dirt.

Masters of propaganda, even the devil cannot tell lies as much as a south african
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:49pm On Mar 29, 2013
patriot3: An other report which says that the SA boys where defeated verry rapidly:
http://www.centrafrique-presse.info/site/info-dossier-2762.html
Southh Africa should have been sending their soldiers to Nigeria for experienced training in peace enforcement and peace keeping to avoid wasting their soldiers and making their families widows and fatherless.

Pride and ego didn't let you come to Nigeria and learn ECOMOG tactics like the Indians, Pakistanis, and Chinese military comes to learn from Nigerian military.

You think it's easy to be a champion with respectable records ?

Pride goes before a fall, south Africa falls into the mud ! tears of regret in Pretoria - Johannesburg.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:39pm On Mar 29, 2013
patriot3: I hope some of you understand french,
The fact is that South africans are telling too much lies about what happened in CAR.
And for that matter real info in English consigning the incident is scarce.
In this french report, it is said that more than 50 SA soldiers were captured by SELEKA.
So we have 50 captured, 13 dead and 27 injured.
That makes a total of 90 soldiers.
And they claimed they (SA) had only 200 soldiers in the conflict.
In that case, it means they lost almost half of their personnel in the conflict.
And now tell me: which side do you think would bring about the white flag in such a situation ?
Only one answer: SA soldiers.
http://www.rfi.fr/afrique/20130327-afrique-sud-brics-vers-une-nouvelle-ruee-vers-afrique-bresil-inde-chine-russie
Shame on south Africa for their usual military war report propaganda lies and exaggeration, a modern army only good in photographs !

Shame on you south Africa ! Bubble Gum military !

Ethiopia will make barbecue of your fancy soldiers.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:59pm On Mar 29, 2013
pleep: Nuclear powered stealth sub...? Lets talk 24/hour electricity first
24 hour electricity need in Nigeria has been settled by contract signed with Manitoba Power Company Of Manitoba Province Of Canada, it takes some time to build the new electricity infrastructure.

Manitoba Power of Canada is one of the best electricity companies in the world and their standard policy is 24 hour uninterrupted electricity supply to their customers.

Deal was brokered by association of Nigerians in Canada. I posted this thing with photos and info sources many times repeated on this forum.

Thanks for reading.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:48pm On Mar 29, 2013
Dibiachukwu: Lets talk real military. Lets talk nuclear powered stealth subs with ICBM capabilities. Lets talk stealth positioning satellites. Lets talk geographical data gathering and programming. Lets talk High end assorted aircrafts. Lets talk Nigeria wide air defence and nuclear deterence capabilities. Lets talk high precision, high range space crafts. All this can be done by Nigerians, all we need is the will and environment for this. We can also fund this by persuading st.upi.d countries to buy our wares for billions.
I wish you had a voice in aso rock and whisper this to president good luck jonathan
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:01pm On Mar 29, 2013
GreenandGold: Obvious without SA you can't pull it off, you'll produce those ugly frogs.

This is a true definition of cum sucking from the Nigerians.

You can ban me now. My point has been proven.
Nigeria can partner on MRAPS with Israel, we just paid for about 40 Sandcat Israeli MRAPS for Nigerian army on mail

Nigeria chose to do joint venture with south Africa so you can drink from our oil and gas money to satisfy your thirst since your gold mines are running dry while Nigeria keeps discovering more oil fields every time.


south African MTN Telecoms is drinking urine from 50 million Nigerians on a daily basis to keep the south African company alive. MTN was half dead before Nigeria gave it new life.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:20pm On Mar 29, 2013
Capnd143: well i thought you would start shouting "ITS A LIE". Nigeria has told its asian weapon suppliers to"either share technology/build factory in nigeria or forget nigeria buying their weapons". india has started Missile technology transfer already, soon we wil produce in a local capacity and gradualy export to Ecomog and gradually other countries!

Even the SA Defense company also which nigeria is paying some $560 million dollars for equipments has started joining the leauge, with this trend, if we can get the chinese,north koreans,indians,isrealis,singaporeans,ukrainians, to tranfer tech through local content, then belive me we would be large in the arms market.
i know, you got it right, nigeria is rapidly advancing in local weapons manufacture. DICON says 105mm artillery production plant is to be ready soon in naija.

did you see my post on the MRAPS to be manufactured in nigeria joint with south africa ? page 147 i posted it with photos and weblink source.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:52pm On Mar 29, 2013
Dibiachukwu: Not that I am proud of the Nigerian army. But the truth is that there is no African army that can defeat or stalemate Nigeria in a real war. Not whilst Nigeria is still one. No doubt about that. But a lot of other armies can defeat Nigeria, all because of mismanagement and corruption in the army. Nigeria should be way above the league of many armies in this world ie one of the world powers.
i share your view, i just avoid saying it aloud, if i do, many would not want to believe me.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:45pm On Mar 29, 2013
agaugust: .

REUTERS NEWS, TRUE REPORT




" At least 13 South African soldiers, among hundreds deployed to reinforce Bozize's army, were killed in the rebel onslaught in the worst military setback for Pretoria since the end of apartheid in 1994 and one which put a dent in any ambitions it has of becoming a continental superpower.


South African media and a senior Ugandan officer said South African soldiers gathered in Uganda on Thursday for a "new mission" to Central African Republic.

"They were humiliated and they want to avenge," said the Uganda officer, who asked not to be named. South Africa's armed forces and defense ministry declined to comment. "


weblink source : http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE92R0RL20130328?irpc=932


south african military failed in real strategic war operation, poor planning, faulty deployment, under-estimating their enemy.

big shame on you south africa, you let africa down, disappointed your entire SADC region, you are a flip flop big for nothing toothless bulldog ;

you notorious military photography and video making merchants !


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:43pm On Mar 29, 2013
agaugust: .

REUTERS NEWS, TRUE REPORT




" At least 13 South African soldiers, among hundreds deployed to reinforce Bozize's army, were killed in the rebel onslaught in the worst military setback for Pretoria since the end of apartheid in 1994 and one which put a dent in any ambitions it has of becoming a continental superpower.


South African media and a senior Ugandan officer said South African soldiers gathered in Uganda on Thursday for a "new mission" to Central African Republic.

"They were humiliated and they want to avenge," said the Uganda officer, who asked not to be named. South Africa's armed forces and defense ministry declined to comment. "


weblink source : http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE92R0RL20130328?irpc=932


south african military failed in real strategic war operation, poor planning, faulty deployment, under-estimating their enemy.

big shame on you south africa, you let africa down, disappointed your entire SADC region, you are a flip flop big for nothing toothless bulldog ;

you notorious military photography and video making merchants !


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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:42pm On Mar 29, 2013
patriot3: You never killed 500, you fought less than 500, and it was too hot for you.
Unlike the few Nigerian soldiers of 2007 (the report does say it was a small AU base), who fought till the last bullet against a heavilly armed 1000 strong rebel group and then hid when they ran out of ammo, you guys pulled the white flag pretty quick.
thanks and thumbs up ! truth is bitter taste in a south african mouth.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust:
GreenandGold: You still decades behind in military tech, maybe 60 years behind. By WWII we were producing APCs for the war against the Italians in north Africa.

We have even turned a corner in mine resistance technology and again we lead the world when they thought they were finally catching up in that department.
[size=16pt]
new MRAPS to be locally produced on joint venture in Nigeria next year[/size]

sorry brain.less, you are poorly informed, next year 2014 nigeria is very soon produce the same type of south african MRAPS you boasted about.

read the latest news :

"Nigerian defence and security firm Mekahog is in the process of setting up a factory to manufacture Springbuck and other armoured vehicles in Nigeria, as part of its effort to provide local content and create employment.


Mekahog is in partnership with Drakensberg Truck Manufacturers (DTM), and has supplied its products to the Nigerian Police Force and Army. At the moment it is fulfilling an order for Springbuck vehicles for the Nigerian government via DTM’s factory in South Africa. Ohakim said that between now and the end of the year the company hopes to receive a firm order for 200 vehicles for Nigeria government and other West African countries.

Mekahog will later build other designs, such as the DTM Fox light armoured commercial pickup and the DCD Mountain Lion armoured battle vehicle.


According to the Nigerian Police Affairs Ministry, the Nigerian government will soon stop doing businesses with foreign firms that have no production facilities in Nigeria. "

weblink source

http://defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=26110:mekahog-to-build-springbuck-armoured-vehicles-at-new-factory-in-nigeria&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105



photos of the MRAPS nigeria is manufacturing on joint venture next year 2014 to be made in a nigerian factory.
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:18pm On Mar 29, 2013
GreenandGold: You still decades behind in military tech, maybe 60 years behind. By WWII we were producing APCs for the war against the Italians in north Africa.

We have even turned a corner in mine resistance technology and again we lead the world when they thought they were finally catching up in that department.
sheyie2007: Shut up! The dutch were producing it not you
she's a psycho, dont you know ?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:08am On Mar 29, 2013
[size=13pt]nigerian army builds 100% local APC...Igirigi Amphibious Armoured Vehicle is born[/size]

a surprise display by nigeria army shows a new armoured vehicle 100% nigerian made and ready for full mass production. the weapon was being secretly developed while the nigerian army was showing us another armoured vehicle that looked like a SWAT armoured vehicle.

the new Igirigi APC is the opposite of the bulky APC show before. Igirigi is sleek, fast, and amphibious with speceial ability to swim in swamps of niger delta or run in deserts of mali.

anonymous sources in nigerian army says the plan it to produce different versions of Igirigi. APC, IFV, short range anti-aircraft missile launcher, and anti-tank missile launcher verisons as time goes on.


see president goodluck jonathan in army uniform enter and exit an Igirigi APC

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