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DictatorZAR: The Paper Nigerian Army that's been deployed in Mali which can't even take part in Active combat has been given another blow by the UNSC few days ago.The web link source you quoted above does not in any way say Nigeria is begging France to stay its army on Mali war, or you can't read and understand simple English? You may look for Zulu language news report instead to help your limited English. Nigerian military war records is enough to K.ill our enemy even before we fire real bullets. Congo, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Sudan, Guinea Bissau, Sao Tome where their national army received ordinary phone call that Nigerian army gives them warning and they surrendered. Go sit down man Nigerian army is master over your south African cowardly army. Nigeria has more than enough military heavy weapons to fight and control the whole Mali but we have to go to the limit that ECOWAS and Mali government want us to go and limit it there. Mali has a president in power and we don't take his position from him. Nigeria has 4 air force jets in action in mail where the Mali government gave us reconnaissance duty, we have many armoured vehicles and artillery with 300 air force commando special forces and about 1,000 army desert battalion infantry. What else ? Does Nigeria have to take over Mali government and dictate everything there ? Nigeria is invited to help and not to rule Mali Try buy sleeping drugs to help you overcome the nightmares of south Africa's new international military disgrace on the hands of illiterate CAR rebels. if its adult CAR rebels that defeated south african army army and captured your military vehicles then south African military is disgraced, but if it was child CAR Rebels that drive around in south African army vehicles the children captured after defeating you, then south Africa has EXTRAORDINARY DISGRACE |
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agaugust: i said it many times on this thread that south african military is NOT africas number one because their army is not good in battle, poor performance in all their army history. |
snydergp: There's been a few new false naija prophets here since I've been gone.I thought you were among south African soldiers who died in CAR rebels combat. . |
dillon7: I cannot comment on the various militaries in Africa, however, I can say that everything depends on the orders given and the type of leader the troops have if your leader can't motivate you would you want to fight? I wouldn't. You can have a troop of 20 men and you could destroy an army of 200 depending on the training, equipment, experience and leadership. Another factor to take into account is pschycological warfare if there are children fighting are you not going to hesitate?people should stop claiming that CAR seleka rebels are child soldiers, how can they use 1,000 children to attack a south african army of 200 t0 400 ? see photos of seleka rebels below, they are young and grown up able bodied men and the south african army did NOT hesitate to shoot and kill these rebels in combat stop making false excuses of child soldiers rebels for south african army's failure in CAR war, the south africans have incompetent and grossly over-rated military forces and thats the truth. if you care to know, poor under-fed hungry africans look like age 15 years when the are already age 21 years due to poor quality of food and low standard of living, the CAR seleka rebels are majorly a force of adults aged well over 18 years standard for war. the rebels defeated south african army and took over south african army combat vehicles and drove them around town to show the whole world that south africa has fallen in battle. .
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patriot4: The Nigerian army has always been verry secretive, so people who are cluesless about military and about Nigeria or who hate Nigeria like afua hirsch have been trying to diffame them. Because of that, the Nigerian armed forces have started is now more public friendly, and the training methods of the Nigerian army are now explained on video:True soldiers ! . |
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Henry120: [size=16pt]south africa is biggest in all things...[/size] South Africa is africa's ; biggest weapons manufacturer biggest military operations failure biggest peace keeping operations disaster biggest military planning incompetence biggest war propaganda lies machinery biggest drop in military rankings position biggest disappointment from a proud nation biggest fumble in military officers strategy biggest over-rated military force biggest disgrace in the hands of illiterate local rebels full meaning of SANDF : [size=16pt] S south A african N national D DISGRACE F force[/size] totally confused jacob zuma president of the bubble gum republic of south africa in photo below .
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nig2change: CAR rebels are criusing SA defence vehicles. http://m.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/?articleId=8608303i said it many times on this thread that south african military is NOT africas number one because their army is not good in battle, poor performance in all their army history. [size=16pt] south african military should just accept their destiny, they are not talented and gifted in the art of war fighting, they are a grossly over-rated photo/video producing bubble gum military force [/size] south africa cannot show master-skills against CAR untrained rebels, yet same south africa wants to challenge the expert and experienced nigerian army of excellent combat records ? jokes and day dreams weblink on CAR disgrace below from south africa itself : http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/car-rebels-seize-sandf-vehicles-report-1.1494367#.UVwVJlf4XGM africa's newest weeping president is in pretoria bowing down his head in shame
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nig2change: South African defence union expresses doubt on SA ability to fight M23 rebels. http://m.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/?articleId=8615598 @nig2change thanks for this update. good research job . |
andrewza: Valour/type056 need to remind you that nigerian type 056 warship is year 2013 technology, while south african valour is 2006 technology, a gap of 7 years. we cannot decide on internet here which warship will win a battle when they both meet in real war, not photo/data analysis on nairaland. real military men know that the real test of any weapon is in real war. south africa just learned this lesson in CAR by the hands of rebels (i hope they really learnt the lesson by experience) i dont need to repeat again that warships dont win battle because of hull size or traveling fuel range or number of crew on board. a ship sinks another ship only with the guns and missiles it fires. much of the winner will depend on the ships captains in command. try to read history of naval sea combat ship vs ship. the captain's intelligence and skill will determine the winner when two ships with the same weapons clash for war. nigerian navy officers have trained in the best military academies of the world and also practice with the bests top 5 world navies. we just ended a war game with Spain's navy last month. we do a lot with indian navy, and nigerian navy personnel are in pakistani navy now for submarine training even though we dont have one, nigerian navy is training with pakistani navy submarines. nigerian navy has very well trained officers and men. "Type 056 corvette also features strong electromagnetic compatibility and a wide application of advanced technologies." weblink source : http://www.naval-technology.com/news/newschina-navy-receives-first-type-056-jiangdao-class-frigate i am sure the chinese navy did not email details of the ships technology to your inbox, or did they ? the best navy is the most balanced navy with both powerful deep water ships and shallow water ships, and in africa only the nigerian navy has that excellent balance. what is the use of a navy with major strength in deep waters of the ocean? deep ocean is no man's land by international law, ruling those waters is a waste of time in this modern times. any nation that disrupts international shipping in deep ocean waters will be attacked by united nations task force to save world economy's import/export shipping business. nigeria is okay with the two incoming new Type 056 light frigates 95m and the new two or four incoming Pipav frigates 110m (cash already paid for first two ships), beacuse international law says every nations territorial waters is only 22km away from its coast out into the sea. google it and confirm the ocean territory law. as long as nigerian navy can take care of its territorial waters from coast to ocean limit 22km, no problem. nigerian navy's coming type 056 light frigate has range of 3,700km and 20 days endurance enough to sail the whole distance of west african coast, and nigeria's bigger Pipav built frigates will have range of about 6,000km to sail down to south africa's cape town ! what else are we looking for ? have you observed that nigerian type 056 ship has more torpedoes than the south african valour ship ? the type 056 is built with extra focus on anti-submarine capability to protect china from american navy threats in south china sea. nigerian navy also paid for two new and bigger frigate warships with open order for four warships in total, and these are similar to russian tiger class stealth frigates. full weapons details still not released to public by nigerian navy HQ, but it is confirmed a Indian clone of Russian Tiger Class frigates, and much of its building will be sub-contrated to other countries probably including australia for stealth capabilities. Typical Tiger warships have size 110m and with more missiles and bigger more powerful longer range 100mm gun than south african valour frigates 76mm gun, plus 6 anti-submarine missiles and 8 anti-submarine torpedoes putting all south african submarines in very great d.anger. NATO says Tiger warships are too large to be called corvettes and therefore classified as frigates by NATO itself. lets wait for the Pipav frigates full details to be released fron nigerian navy HQ. nigerian navy is a match for the south african navy with all these new weapons we have paid for, and the list is growing fast as nigeria builds a massive modern blue water/deep ocean navy to match its world status as the best and most powerful brown water/shallow water navy in the whole world. i think i am done with navy comparison, i dont think i need to proceed with a simulated navy to navy war senario. i have said enough already. remember south africa's new military lesson from CAR rebels humiliating attack. never under estimate your enemy
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mens dept: None of these AFrican countries can even beat middle of the road European countries.We didn't force you to contribute anything to this tppic/thread. That's how some ignorant people think. Then when war comes men like you hide in the toilet and expect military men to go out and die for you and the soldiers wives become widows and their children fatherless. Then you come out of hiding after the war to enjoy life with your own family. Same way you expect some policemen to fight armed robbers and die to protect you, your fat wife, your trembling children. You sound like a real coward first class. |
[size=16pt] no good in a nigeria vs cameroon stuff, we dont punch our allies and neighbours ! [/size] |
DictatorZAR: What do u take me for a average high school graduate fool.Are you a Chinese navy admiral or you are the project engineer leading team that built Type 056 warship ? Silence is the best answer for a F00L like you .. . |
DictatorZAR: What do u take me for a average high school graduate fool.Are you a Chinese navy admiral or you are the project engineer leading team that built Type 056 warship ? Silence is the best answer for a F00L like you . |
DictatorZAR: Show us the weapons systems in detail, and then compare the firepower of both the Type056 and Valour Class ships.You too can spend your time to do the comparison and post for us all to see, or there's no Google in south africa ? The exercise would also help us to judge your intelligence and fairness. |
construction work going on one of the two new nigerian navy stealth missile light frigates in china's shipyard . @sheyie2007 and @andrewza, i posted the nigerian navy information on this page specially for both of you because you had argument about NNS Aradu versus south african navy. so the above post settles it. i could have put in more details but its 12 midnight now in my part of the world, i have to go and sleep. thanks.
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nigerian navy two new stealth warships under construction
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. .......................[size=24pt]new mighty Nigerian Navy[/size]. @sheyie2007 and @andrewza, i posted the nigerian navy info above specially for both of you because you had argument about NNS Aradu versus south african navy. so the above post settles it. .
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andrewza: I doubt the ECM/ECW are the same has a valouri am no dummy, i think and you know i think. i never said one missile will sink a carrier. type 056 can launch rapidly 4 anti ship missiles and 6 torpedoes on one target. one excocet missile sank a whole british destroyer HMS sheffield in falklands war, a destroyer is bigger than a frigate. i think before i talk, even though i am not perfect, i am human. only God is perfect. ........................[size=24pt]new mighty Nigerian Navy[/size] ECM/ECW weapons valour vs type 056 cannot be determined by us, only real war can determine the winner. both ships carry the 76mm gun. both ships have same speed. type 056 carries the best chinese technology as the ship just entered service last year 2012 and is designed to counter the best and most modern american navy warship and submarine threat to china in the south sea of china and taiwan. the chinese put all their best into the type 056 and it is replacing all chinese frigates. it carries the same anti-missile defence as the latest year 2011 chines aircraft carrier called FL-3000N anti-missile systems. These are similar to the American RAM anti-missile missile system, except that they come in a 24 missile launcher. FL-3000N was only introduced in year 2010 and very modern. nigeria is buying two type 056 warships for its navy, so your south african navy is going to face a very very modern nigeria navy stealth warship, NOT NNS Aradu and NNS Thunder. nigerian navy will be a more powerful force in africa when those new stealth warships arrive it will also be the most balanced naval force in africa with combination of world class 300 vessels massive and modern brown water force that egypt, algeria, south africa CANNOT match in any way. nigerian navy has the the largest and most modern brown water navy in the world, even america CANNOT beat us in that aspect of vessel types. i have googled USA, Russia, China, and all major brown water navy forces in the world, NONE can challenge nigerian navy. In the 2007-2009 epoch, the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation in a bid to improve maritime security in the oil-producing Niger Delta, bankrolled the acquisition of over 225 new additional river patrol boats and landing craft in a deal with the Suncraft Group-Strategic Marine partnership of Singapore and Australia. The said acquisitions cost several hundreds of millions of dollars and it was a matter of extrabudgetary Direct Intervention Funding, carried out outside the orbit of regular defence appropriation, in the national interest. these new 225 vessels were added to the already existing 80 or so vessels. making it the largest such type of force in the world and south african navy can never challenge nigeria in those type of waters. nigerian coastline is only 850km, so the two new 95m stealths paid for and under construction, and the two planned 110m stealth frigates will be enough with our six new 38m stealth fast strike crafts (four on order, but two delivered NNS ZARIA and NNS BURUTU) combined with out israeli sea drones USV that no other country has in the whole of Africa, then nigerian navy is a MAJOR threat to every other african country including Egypt, Algeria, and South Africa. weblink sources : http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29434&Itemid=106 https://beegeagle./tag/nigerian-naval-acquisitions/ .
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andrewza: The link you gave me called it a corvet.you speak english ? or only dutch/afrikaans ? i gave you a whole internet wikipedia definition details that says corvettes and frigates are names used interchangeably depending of the role and weapons on the ship, not only a matter of hull size, and that certain class of corvettes are also called light frigates. NNS thunder is no frigate despite its size 115m TYPE 056 is light frigate based on its anti-ship/submarine/aircraft ability,and on board helicopter despite its size 95m the type 056 weapons and ECM are about equal to the valour frigate, gun size, missiles, and all. only real war can prove a winner between them. a valour frigate is in great danger facing a type 056 light frigate, the type 056 missiles can sink an aircraft carrier, but NN thunder is no threat. update your knwoledge from this quote below and dont confuse other people here : "Corvettes are fast (around 25 knots or better), well-armed ships that displace between 700 and 2000 tons. A corvette is generally not intended for extended ocean-going operations, and is best suited for regional operations. Corvettes are generally the smallest platforms capable of accommodating the sensors, weapons, and combat systems needed to operate in a medium threat environment. Corvettes are sometimes referred to as light frigates (FFLs). It can be assumed that the hull design for a corvette and that of an offshore patrol vessel are very similar. The differences will be in propulsion and outfitting. Corvettes will have higher speed and therefore less endurance and range than OPV, much greater armament, and less space for provisions and habitability." weblink source : http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-navy/33514-what-difference-between-frigate-destroyer.html#ixzz2PBcDaiDd |
andrewza: 1990 is not old for a ship. Most of the USN is that old or older. The point made is, that fleet has more ASW caperbielties than the entire nigerian navy. That is a fact.1990 is not old for a war ship? why did south africa buy 2005 valour frigates then? year 2006 submarine hiding under the wide ocean targeting a year 1990 warship exposed on the ocean surface, ask your little son in elementary school to predict the winner. south african navy over-rated like south african army fighting rebels in CAR. i have made my point. case closed. |
andrewza: south africa, where one of our type 209s desstroyed a NATO task force. andrewza: USS NORMANDY (CG 60) SNMG1 Flagship (USA) the south african navy submarine was used to target 5 old outdated NATO warships and only 1 modern frigate HOLLAND's naval ship is a 2005 technology stealth ship and is the only modern ship in the whole 6 ship NATO task force the 5 other NATO navy ships are much older technology and close to their retirement age, they are : USA navy ship is 1988 technology and now retired from a service CANADA's navy ship is 1990 technology PROTUGAL SICK BABY OF EUROPE's navy ship is 1991 technology DENMARK navy's ships is 1981 technology and now retired from service GERMANY's naval ship is an ordinary fuel storage tanker ship with 1977 technology the SOUTH AFRICAN navy submarine is 2006 technology used against 5 outdated old warships with inferior technology the NATO navies had better warships but did not bring them to south africa. also, no british, french, german or italian navy warship was present in the NATO force, and these are the 4 most powerful NATO countries in europe. British navy stealth destroyer warship HMS Daring and US navy Arleigh Burke stealth destroyer warship have both been fully operational since 2006, a year before the so called defeat of NATO warships and they did not come to south africa then for the NATO war game. nigerian navy too can use our 2009 stealth eagle class fast attack vessel NNS ZARIA to missile target lock the same american 1988 warship because it cannot see the nigeria stealth vessel built with the worlds best stealth technology in austarlia the world stealth masters, then we come to nairaland and boast that nigeria navy defeated american warship ! EGYPT HAS PAID FOR 2 OF THE SAME SOUTH AFRICAN TYPE 209 SUBMARINE On 31 August 2012, the Egyptian navy commander General/ Osama Ahmed stated that a contract has been signed with the German side to build two type 209 submarines for the Egyptian navy including the latest technology this type has reached. ALGERIA HAS PAID FOR 2 OF THE SAME SOUTH AFRICAN VALOUR CLASS STEALTH FRIGATES NIGERIA HAS PAID FOR 2 TYPE 056 LIGHT FRIGATE STEALTH WARSHIPS WITH YEAR 2013 LATEST TECHNOLOGY these 3 african navies are strongly contesting power for the sea with south african navy, and we cannot know who will win the sea war until the navies clash for real war, not just posting photos on nairaland. stop deceiving yourselves in south africa, your military can be beaten and r.oasted as we just saw now in CAR by local illiterate rebels. weblink source : google internet wikipedia of all the ships named in this post, and their full details will be confirmed . |
andrewza: though there is nothing wrong with it, if i was desghing it i would make a few changes, based on SA experiance with these types of small wheeled APCs.so nigeria's military ranking should go up in africa, thats why i put us ahead of ethiopia in my review, we have more modern army equipments and weapons manufacturing industry than ethiopia, and nigeria is growing fast buying modern weapons from all over the world at an alarming rate. |
andrewza: south africa, where one of our type 209s desstroyed a NATO task force. andrewza: USS NORMANDY (CG 60) SNMG1 Flagship (USA) the south african navy submarine was used to target 5 old outdated NATO warships and only 1 modern frigate HOLLAND's naval ship is a 2005 technology stealth ship and is the only modern ship in the whole 6 ship NATO task force the 5 other NATO navy ships are much older technology and close to their retirement age, they are : USA navy ship is 1988 technology and now retired from a service CANADA's navy ship is 1990 technology PROTUGAL SICK BABY OF EUROPE's navy ship is 1991 technology DENMARK navy's ships is 1981 technology and now retired from service GERMANY's naval ship is an ordinary fuel storage tanker ship with 1977 technology the SOUTH AFRICAN navy submarine is 2006 technology used against 5 outdated old warships with inferior technology the NATO navies had better warships but did not bring them to south africa. also, no british, french, german or italian navy warship was present in the NATO force, and these are the 4 most powerful NATO countries in europe. British navy stealth destroyer warship HMS Daring and US navy Arleigh Burke stealth destroyer warship have both been fully operational since 2006, a year before the so called defeat of NATO warships and they did not come to south africa then for the NATO war game. nigerian navy too can use our 2009 stealth eagle class fast attack vessel NNS ZARIA to missile target lock the same american 1988 warship because it cannot see the nigeria stealth vessel built with the worlds best stealth technology in austarlia the world stealth masters, then we come to nairaland and boast that nigeria navy defeated american warship ! EGYPT HAS PAID FOR 2 OF THE SAME SOUTH AFRICAN TYPE 209 SUBMARINE On 31 August 2012, the Egyptian navy commander General/ Osama Ahmed stated that a contract has been signed with the German side to build two type 209 submarines for the Egyptian navy including the latest technology this type has reached. ALGERIA HAS PAID FOR 2 OF THE SAME SOUTH AFRICAN VALOUR CLASS STEALTH FRIGATES NIGERIA HAS PAID FOR 2 TYPE 056 LIGHT FRIGATE STEALTH WARSHIPS WITH YEAR 2013 LATEST TECHNOLOGY these 3 african navies are strongly contesting power for the sea with south african navy, and we cannot know who will win the sea war until the navies clash for real war, not just posting photos on nairaland. stop deceiving yourselves in south africa, your military can be beaten and r.oasted as we just saw now in CAR by local illiterate rebels. weblink source : google internet wikipedia of all the ships named in this post, and their full details will be confirmed . |
Henry120: It is un-ethical to do this. If @andrewza wanted his photo on nairaland, he would have put it on his profile here on nairaland himself. It doesn't make any sense to go about invading other peoples privacy.thanks i have removed my post of his photo and 'data' and i also apologized. i think @andrewza pushed @patriot4 to the wall with his thinking or lack of thinking, such that the guy wanted to sniff out who he really was. i will be honest with you all, since the day i was born, i have NEVER met any human being that thinks like @andrewza, his comments many times shows he does not think or he does not want to think. it may be a medical issue, i guess, so i stopped insulting him even when he provokes me. he has Dyslexia, but he didnt tell us early enough. he also didnt tell us he is white until last week. i have decided to be tolerant of him because of the medical disclosure. maybe it affects his thinking once in a while because he just writes posts/comments that can drive people nuts. very annoying comments. imagine his comment on nigerian navy new type 056 light frigate, even when i posted web sources that it is technically a light frigate based on weaponry,functions,and manufacturer' specifications, and with english dictionary definitions of warships types, he still said its a orvette not light frigate. very annoying. same way he said south african navy can challenge USA navy with valour class frigates that the americans will sink in one hour. the south african GV6 gun has manufacturer tested maximum range of 73km, he claimed it is 100km, crazy like a ballistic missile ! he said his source is guinness books of record and he couldnt quote it to prove and is still adamant on it. @andrewza can be very annoying, and he gets worse by the day, almost becoming like @snydergp his strange ways made the france guy sniff him out on facebook. |
agaugust: @andrewza exposed via facebook. |
CAMEROONPRIDE: Where are we?nairaland |
Henry120: Nigeria has a new wheeled armoured personnel carrier/ operational support vehicle. PROFORCE1awesome nigerian made weapon, you forgot to add source weblink, i help you add that below. good job @henry120 weblink source http://beegeagle./2012/06/29/exclusive-the-soon-to-be-inducted-made-in-nigeria-apc/ .
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@andrewza exposed via facebook. P O S T E D C O N T E N T R E M O V E D by @agaugust for privacy reasons. @andrewza i apologize to you for this post, i have deleted your photo and 'data' |
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