It appears you didn't understand my post. I spoke of research setting, whereby two patients with similar cva in NATURE (type of cva and area of affectation).
Whatever difference in this nature, will definitely be inconsequential, as to be an extraneous factors, in the research outcomes.
Intervention was also coordinated, according to the research design.
CatfishBilly: Cloning a human for gene therapy is redundant, it serves no purpose. The gene that wants to be replaced is already defective, a functional copy of that gene is readily available from donors and there won't really be immune reaction to it, it's like using $1 million dollars to solve a problem that could be solved with $20 dollars, it's not cost effective. As for mutation, cloning is a copy of human gene, that means any defects that a human gene is susceptible to will also affect the cloned gene including mutation. Dolly the sheep the first cloned mammal died due to suspected accelerated aging due to it being cloned.
May be i should use research in gene therapy. Research into why two different patients, with similar nature of cva and other vitals, responded differently to the same line of management, and genetic difference was implicated in the treatment outcome.
I'm of the thinking that, both clients can be cloned and studied for the purpose of understanding a less risky genetic tampering.
Jesus is the cheapest weed in the world today. The poorest of the poor will still buy from peddlers like TB Joshua, oyedepo, Adeboye and other spirofias.
CatfishBilly: Gene therapy and cloning are 2 different things. In gene therapy, you find a defective gene, get a functioning copy of that gene from somewhere else, implant it into a retrovirus then the retrovirus is directed to a particular loci of the gene to add this new copy of gene.
The question of sameness didn't arise in my earlier post. Cloning can give us human being. I simply opined that such cloned humans may be used for gene therapy. Since the possibility of mutation isn't what one will want to gamble with, in biological humans.
CatfishBilly: Cloning basically means creating a genetically identical copy of an organism/organ. Now that we've gotten that out of the way, let's tackle the bone of contention.
Cloning a full human would be senseless because it serves no purpose whatsoever.
The etiology of some disease are now tied to gene. If we have a cloned human, on whom genetic therapy can be administered, I'm of the opinion that, this can provide a hopeful means of finding cure.
felixomor: I knew u would have to go back to dig it. However it backfires. Because I clearly specified that what u r calling my claim is a "belief" held by people Within science.
I even highlighted it above. I never made the claim as u lied about.
Unfortunately, u r so desperate that u have to quote me out of context to Frame your lies.
Sad. U Failed. U still lied.
Unfortunately for you, the audience here, are not as low in where it matters, as you are.
Our brains, which art in our heads, treasured be thy names. Thy reasoning come. The best you can do be done on earth as it is. Give us this day new insight to resolve conflicts and ease pain. And lead us not into supernatural explanations, deliver us from denial of logic. For thine is the kingdom of reason, and even though thy powers are limited, and you’re not always glorious, you are the best evolutionary adaptation we have for helping this earth now and forever and ever. So be it.
felixomor: You dont have to resort to lies because u have been exposed. LoLz
Ad hominem wont save u on this. Please go ahead and plagiarize your "atheist" nursery rhymes........
Shame.....!
felixomor: There are many. Within the human body alone, there are thousands of beliefs that are used to explain phenomenons.
For example no part of science explains why the brain goes to sleep everyday.
It is only believed it goes to sleep for certain reasons. No part of science explains why the developing heart of a fetus decides to start beating. It is only believed to do so for some certain reasons.....
There are many beliefs within science my dear....
Judging from all the caps you put up there, if it were a saner society, your medic certificate would have been withdrawn on the basis of your lost of touch, with sense and reason.
CatfishBilly: For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. Romans 8:22 NKJV That's what it says, there is no sin there. Abi the Holy Ghost told you that there's sin there that we can't see?
I'm particularly glad that atheistic thoughts, that this dude has exposed himself to over time, have sufficiently turned him away from Bible into the edge of seeing God idea, for what it's - absurdities.
Bionic heart and kidney are in the process towards patent. With attendant benefits of this, nothing is wrong with cloning in as much it's the benefits that's the motive.
felixomor: Is it not funny that u had to photograph nuggets written by people who believe in God, and then "re-titled" it "atheists" what to tell your kids.?
SMH
*Facepalm*
Just as you and your likes foolishly ascribe the origin of life to Yahweh. Albeit, on the basis of the primitive imagination of cave men.
If not that your brain is already conditioned to see everything as the works of the Jewish doG, you would have seen that no author is referenced there.
Of course, you can't possibly tell your kids (if you have any) any other thing, than Jewish Idol loves them.
Ever8054: ..seriously..if that judgment made no sense to you,I wonder if you can find sense in anything... anyway!. that's what makes you an atheist shaaaa...God gave you brain to use don't waste it pls..
Have you ever observed the folks that find company with nitwit pleasurable?
eplanning: HURAH! A FLORIDA COURT SETS OFFICIAL ATHEIST HOLY DAY
In Florida , an atheist created a case against Easter and Passover Holy days. He hired an attorney to bring a discrimination case against Christians and Jews and observances of their holy days. The argument was that it was unfair that atheists had no such recognized days.
The case was brought before a judge. After listening to the passionate presentation by the lawyer, the judge banged his gavel declaring, "Case dismissed!"
The lawyer immediately stood and objecting to the ruling saying, "Your honor, How can you possibly dismiss this case? The Christians have Christmas, Easter and others.
The Jews have Passover, Yom Kippur and Hanukkah, yet my client and all other atheists have no such holidays..."
The judge leaned forward in his chair saying, "But you do. Your client, counselor, is woefully ignorant." The lawyer said," Your Honor, we are unaware of any special observance or holiday for atheists." The judge said, "The calendar says April 1st is April Fool’s Day. Psalm 14:1 states, 'The fool says in his heart, there is no God.'
Thus, it is the opinion of this court, that, if your client says there is no God, then he is a fool. Therefore, April 1st is his day.
Court is adjourned..."
You gotta love a Judge that knows his scripture!
Now, you simply confirmed the idiocy of God idea and all that's attributed to it.
In Christian' warped and fictional mind, wherein he thinks an atheist will seek the ridiculous rights, is the permanent abode of elements that defines foolishness.
CatfishBilly: It's becoming quite apparent that when Christians get cornered in their argument for a 7 day creation story, they switch to an Intelligent Design argument (Nature is so intelligently designed and fits so seamlessly, so, it has to be God).
But the argument is flawed and largely based on 2 things, 1) Argumentum ad ignorantiam: Argument from ignorance. We don't know, so, God. 2) God of the gaps: There is a gap in the demonstrable knowledge of science, therefore, God.
Proponents of Intelligent Design present their argument for a deistic God but further probing and investigation of the leaders of the Intelligent Design movement show that they are arguing for a Christian God which makes it no different from creationists.
The science community all over the world has largely debunked the idea of Intelligent Design based largely on the fact that they don't have a demonstrable hypothesis despite the fact that the leaders of Intelligent Design movement are scientists. Infact, it has been classed as a Pseudoscience right in the group of allopathic and homeopathic medicine.
Proponents of Intelligent Design largely fail to explain obvious design flaws in their intelligent design.
So, by and large, Intelligent Design is a movement created by creationists when faced with the absurdities of a 7 day creation story.
Reading through most of the creation stories by different cultures of the world (including the Torah version), one word that describes them all is myths.
It's a mockery of the word intelligence or design, to equate the tales by moonlight of creationists to "intelligent design".
Ignorance and perplexity of the religionists, informed the idiocy of ascribing intelligent design to an imaginary gods.
DoctorAlien: Very ignorant post. Only a simple human being devoid of any shred of understanding doesn't know that death and infirmities are the curses of sin. .
As each day passes for you on NL, you keep regressing into infinite myths of primitive Jews, who worship the Idol called Yahweh.
Sin is a mental "disease" fabricated by Yahweh creators, just to control the minds of delusionists. The changing cure (sacrifices first, and later the magical nazarene), has also reinforced the illusions.
DoctorAlien, you must rope neck your Yahweh to come learn the fundamentals of intelligence from FSM. If it understands that, Yahweh may then progress to designs.
Omoluabi16: The opinion of the average muslim, Christians should continue to face persecution. In a larger perspective, I'm sure you must be highly thrilled with the worldwide persecution and killings of christian. Did you also celebrate the attack against christians in Egypt?
St. Matthew 5:11 Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account.
St. Matthew 5:12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Max24: And u wholly believe the confession of the killers? So, who speaks for the killed? We are on d same page. I just added my own perspective which is also possible. We are all simply perplexed.
Max24: That rule means nothing. No evidence he didn't keep to d rule. What if at d gate a gun was pointed at him and ordered inside d house? Even small boys use guns to rob inside traffic with people around. what do u do - shout or cooperate with them? So in reality d rule does not save from premeditated killers.
I wrote based on the confession of the criminals. The delivery guy was invited into the room.
Now, my advice has to do with adherence to basic rules and ethics of profession.
They are meant to serve useful purposes. Amongst which can be safety of live.
You can go elsewhere, and go preach your fatalistic beliefs.
petra1: Healing is recieved by faith . You have to believe first . God is not under pressure to be recognized by you or your amputee relative . If you believe
Mark 9:23 23 -- Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.
God is not under a test . Believe and be healed you don't believe you perish
You're just drunk with repulsive arrogance. You're just creating an excuse for the lies that your like and Chris spew around.
Do you know what faith is?
A man who agrees that an occurrence, that defies reason will happen to him, doesn't have faith?
The case of your like, is that even if it becomes objectively known, that God is a scam, you will still plunge on in the delusion of God idea.
Ever8054: let's not go far..I checked your post and they are all about atheist criticism on the Christian God and all of them ignored with highest comment..5..to one of the post. if don't know what that means,its simply tells you how people sees atheism as a joke.. but go check people's post on Christianity or others religion,you will acknowledge the attention they generate. ..atheism is a confused state of mind that can only be related to a certain persons that are more confused than the word confusion. no hot feelings bro
You simply can't make a useful and rational deduction from your own observation.
The population of religious folks to atheists on NL is in the region of 95:5 if i hazard a guess.
Therefore it's natural for traffic to tilt. Again, most of the religious folks will not want to fool around by arguing with me, what they can't possibly defend.
If you go check my earlier posts, you will see how most apologists here tried to fool around. They retreated to their illusion hole after their failures.
Besides, thread that appeal to the illusions that plague most folks, will definitely be at home with sheeples.
Boy, religion hasn't stopped been the weed of the masses!
Ever8054: ridicule you said?...that's exactly what you can't achieve.. imagine your ridiculing something that keeps growing one trillion times above your own believe.what you do is expose your frustration while you watch and not ridicule...
You can go tell that to the cathedral in Europe that are fast becoming relic and museum.
You can tell that to increasing alignment with figurative and metaphoric meaning of the Bible.
You can as well tell that to obvious sensationalism and entertaining events that characterizes church activities.