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Obadiah, it was going well until you started confusing things. In the op, you called "waters" the belief of the heathen and "rod" the word of god. However, a few posts later, you called "water" the word of god. Which is which?

Emusan: Get a King James Red Bible all the words that Jesus spoken were written in RED letter.

Just an advice sha...

Sorry, I can't get that. Just explain here. Are you saying that all other versions of the bible are wrong and only the king james red bible is correct? How do you know what the red lettering denotes? It may not even be what you think. You want to attribute words to jesus using a non conjugated bible while discarding other more researched and better written ones. Christian logic at work.

Stone age mentality. Who carries books around in paper form nowadays? My bible and koran and satanic handbook are all in one folder in the cloud. All versions. I download and read and copy and destroy as I want. Some people still get worked up over ink and paper. Mtcheeew.

There is an error in the name of the author. It's Ofeimanu, not Ofeimun

Is she tribeless?

You could at least answer the simple question instead of moving the topic around.

Seun, your new set of moderators here are useless. They just keep hiding posts for no particular reason except they don't like them. You might as well get some post hiding bots and save yourself some money. Infact I am sure a bot would do a better job than them because a bot at least follows a guideline.

Emusan: Who said the word if not Jesus?

The author of the gospel of John.

Jesus stopped speaking on verse 15. You could even see the inverted commas that mark end of speech. But the author continued on his own in verse 16. Read it again.

enilove: When writing something that is open for everyone to read, you need to know and be sure you are knowledgeable concerning what the subject is .

You claimed Jesus did not preach that until someone dies b4 one can be saved. But you are wrong.

John 3:14-16 KJV
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: [15] That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. [16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

The above reference was the direct word of the Lord Jesus Christ.

I just hope most of you will stop this vain babbling and pray to God to save your souls.

A word is enough for the wise.

Lie @ bolded! Jesus didn't say that.

So my dear, "When writing something that is open for everyone to read, you need to know and be sure you are knowledgeable concerning what the subject is ."

You really have to be desperate to pay to sleep with this one. For me you will have to pay me to sleep with her. With conditions. Double condom, doggy style (i can't be looking at that face during the act) and no talking.

Uyi Iredia: Because if they really and truly don't exist, we can't think of or talk about them. Consider this: Can you tell me the largest number ? Yes ! Talking about imaginations perforce makes them exist: Can I demonstrate this to you ?



Clap for yourself. Existence or non-existence exist. If non-existence is true we can't imagine it, talkless of talk about it. Ask yourself why people talk off dead people (like Hitchens or Einstein) or fictional characters (like Batman or James Bond) as if they are alive.

If this is deism, I think I prefer christianity. Chei.
This one pass me. Let me requote this to myself, maybe it might make more sense.
Here we go.
"Existence or non-existence exist."
......... thinking..........
No! Still doesn't make sense.

Sorry Uyi. I'll leave you to Logicboy. I think he has the capacity to understand you. I don't.

Ishilove: Yeske. It is public knowledge na.

However, Seun told me that the dazzling and sophisticated beauty of a city woman like me frightened him, so he'd rather stick with the plain and homely women of Sango.

My heart was broken!!

I think self-preservation kicked in as soon as he saw you.

princesa: in verse 18, he was talking about himself, he's the fulfilment of the law and the prophet (Gal 3:17-23) his death and resurrection ushered us to the era of grace and abolished all the strict rule and regulations of the law, why? because God saw that it was too hard for us to obey, but now with Jesus we are free to come boldly to his throne and seek for mercy and Grace, in essence Jesus then, was talking about himself fulfilling all that the law and prophet prophesied.

verse 19.
Jesus went further in another verse to summarise all the laws as 'love for God and love for fellow man, against which there is no other law' (requoted by me, i presently don't have the exact bible verse) and he wants people to preach love and teach people to do so too.

because if you looked at it, you'd see the truth in it, love is what we need to obey all them laws, everyone speaks love nomatter their race and beliefs. that's all that matters.

This is what you would have loved that he said, except he didn't say that. He said something else which I already quoted. You are just making shyte up.

Emusan: The same Jesus you paraphrase is the one who says "For God so love the world that He gave only begotten Son and who so ever believe in Him will not perish but have everlasting LIFE" John 3:16

The word everlasting life has a beginning and end meaning. Before you have it you must believe and after you have it you live forever.

No, no, no, no! Jesus never said that. He said, in verse 11 of that chapetr, "Very truly I tell you, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen". You hear it direct from him. He talks only of what he knows. In verses 12 & 13, he repeated, "I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? 13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven"

You hear am? He speaks of earthly things because people wont believe heavenly nonsense because no one has ever gone there. So, take care of the earth and your life on it. Let the dead worry about the dead and the spirits worry about the spiritual.

How the afterlife of Seun worries some people here is hilarious.

princesa: fairytales are for kids, am nolonger a kid, ask Walt Disney, they'd tell you whom their targeted audience are.


the way you perceive the bible is strongly hinged on individualism hence the individual difference theory

because your kids see the bible as a story book, doesn't mean mine would, afterall Lions beget lion

The real christian. Reads but fails to understand.

If they don't exist why are we talking about them as if they exist ?

Uyi, please, how do you talk of things that don't exist or does talking about imaginations bring them into existence.

If so, then is it right to conclude that in your world, there is no such thing as "inexistence"?

Uyi Iredia: So if one writes flat earth or God. Why do these refer to terms once believed in and no longer belived in.

Believed in by whom?

Sorry, I am not getting you. Can you go straight and make your point, if you have one?

princesa: These are some Bible verses, that talks about people like you all, i wonder if you guyz ever read the bible, all of it and not just the Old testament with some of its shock therapy. that's why we are the choosen Generation living under the era of Grace, made possible by the death of Jesus, we are not under the law okay, if we were, then Jesus death was in vain. and That's the Gospel truth.

Can you please tell us what Jesus meant when he said this?

Matthew 5:18-19

18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Uyi Iredia: How can one read and write something (like Santa Clause, Mother Goose, Sletzer etc) and not believe in it ?

Same way someone can read and write Red Stripped Poo, Flying Spaghetti Monster, Benebblub, etc, and not believe in them. Or do you?

princesa: yeah it didn't come from me, i didn't write the bible, i met it as the manual for the faith i was born into, and later understood for myself and choose to remain in the faith, just like you were born into a religion, but when you understood and reasoned it out, you pulled out from it, that's what makes us adults, what's the difference?

And if i may ask, did you personally write those books that nurtured and groomed your knowledge on 'one of the ism' you belong to? no!

have you written a book that will be the manual of living for your kind, however way it should be done? no

so why expect me to...

read your books, and i would read mine, everybody is happy. but the problem is why do you guys keep on criticizing the Bible, you don't wanna understand and believe?

if you so hate it, then close it and shut the Fvuk up

Oh no, I don't hate it. It is a very nice children's story book. I sometimes read it to my daughters alondsinde Cinderella and the tooth fairy stories. Sometimes, if they are a bit naughty, I use some vereses to scare them, other times I read them romantic tales from Jesus of one man who wanted to marry ten brides but ended up marrying only five. My elder daughter is even beginning to hate that story because she can't start imagining sharing her boyfriend with another girl. LOL. I think she'll end up an atheist, that one.

Tell me princesa, do you still believe in fairy tales and Santa Clause?

princesa: my Bible spewed it out to me, like i said earlier on, am not a fanatic, i have a bible and i actually read it!

That's exactly what I said. You didn't figure any hard thing out on your own. Somebody spewed it out to you. The means of the spewing is irrelevant. The point is, it didn't come from you. You are just like a parrot that is repeating what it heard (or read, in your case)

Emusan: Truly is too short but what happen after death is the main issue on ground.

I will paraphrase Jesus here and say let the dead bury the dead. I will worry about death when I die. For now, I am concentrating on living.

Manmustwack, you just overdid yourself here: https://www.nairaland.com/1327122/why-oppose-use-condom-catholic

Have you heard of the snake that eats its own tail?

princesa: Perfectly!

Jesus ascended and sent down the Holy Spirit who continues the work of Jesus in the lives of men.

how hard can it be

Not hard at all. If you trust the mouth that spewed it out to you in the first place, not hard at all.