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[quote author=One_Naira]He doesn't even need to go outside of NL. One member yesterday opened a thread about Achebe, bringing out his works as well as what others said about him as a way to pay him his last respect and wish him goodbye. The guy (alj_harem) that asked the question was too busy dancing up and down yesterday over the death of Achebe to pay it mind. Why then should anyone waste their time educating the well known bigot of NL. Leave him jor.

This thread should have ended hours ago at least in my opinion. I don't even know why the entire eastern and some SS populace are trying to change some bigots mind about this man. What they see him as shouldn't matter really.[/quote]one Naira, You sound like one of those that don't even bother to read before replying.

Now here are facts

1. Achebe is a well respected man whether anyone likes it or not. I respect the man's achievement (personal)

2. Achebe's works (writings) are great !

Here is the question

What is Achebe's impact to the life of an average Nigerian ? Did he AT ANY POINT fight or make any impact or even attempt to make the life of any average Nigeria or even Igboman better ? Or he just focused on his writing and his personal acheievement ?

Efikman: He was actually reported to have drunk RAT POISON and died as a result. SUICIDE

You see, when you read lies like this and they pay you with your coin, you would complain. LOL

[quote author=Mr. Globe]only lazy and jobless people care about awards. like Nobel, like Grammys like Oscars, should I give you a list of befitting individuals who have been snubbed by this awards? has Nobel stopped Achebe from being the greatest African literary icon ever? Nobel prize needs Achebe to validate itself not vice versa[/quote]My brother, it is not about awards.

Are you even reading my post and my question ? or you are just trying to defend his honour ?

From this, majority of you are just discussing out of sentiment.

Anyway I don tire

7842I: Heheheheh . This guy is incurably funny, why avoiding my answers?

I saw your answer clearly but has not addressed the issue.

Oh is that has achievement ? Shocked *

Billyonaire: Achebe exposed the truth, with verifiable Bibliography.

Achebe quoted books and accounts and drew his own conclusion ?

I mean you are beginning to sound like a joke

7842I: I have answered you this question and you still keep asking again, Achebe, through his books and stance on some national issues developed the minds of millions of Africans, and made me propud when he rejected (with good reasons) OBJs national awards. Achebe stands too tall.

ok how has this improve the life of any average man ?

Efikman: And what positive impact did Awolowo make in Nigeria (not yorubaland ohhh)

This is not about Awolowo but if you must know. That NTA channel which is the first television station in Africa before likes of France had one started as WNTV from Awolowo.

Nigeria for many years had only NTA as the best channel station in Africa. That is an achievement to the life of any AVERAGE Nigerian.

Also since he gave free education to his Yoruba people, their are thousands of Ijaws and Igbos that benefited from it. The first school he built was in Urhoboland.

[quote author=Mr. Globe]his achievements for Nigeria as a politicians or private citizen? what is your own achievement for Nigeria since Achebe is also a member of the public like you? Are you also worried you are not a true Yoruba according to awo since you are not ijebu?[/quote]I am a private citizen and not know like Achebe because I know if I die, I might not get the honour Achebe is commanding out of ignorance.

If Achebe is to be respected, then we all should see his impact or am I talking out of ignorance here ?







The fundamental fact has not be stated here. The question has not be answered by the so called educated intelligent people

Niggmatic: Well, you do not need the 'Igbo bigot' to tell you his achievements. Just a click on any international media web site will do the magic. Meanwhile, i hope some folks are not down with heart attack on this man greatness.

You see, this is one of the reasons I dislike discussing with the so called educated Nigerians. Majority or illiterates IMO, google or the internet had any answer, would I be asking the question.

No one in the world has any information on Achebe's impact to the average Nigerian and as such, I am asking those defending his honour to state it clearly without any insult or sarcasm, Achebe's impact to the average Nigerian or Igbo man on the street.

I loved the man and respect him even till this point because of his achievement but it does not erase the question.

[quote author=Mr. Globe]Nobel prize is a price awarded by white racist folks. Nobel lost its value when they denied Achebe the award. Nobel or none Achebe has the highest ever selling literary work in Africa and has been crowned the father of African literature . That's what we call achievement not some award by some fat old racist folks in Norway.[/quote]You would not be saying this if Achebe had won it

Why are you people so hypocritical ?

Moreover if Achebe knew that, why didn't asked them to drop out of the race last year ?

Billyonaire: The impact is simple. He told the truth about Awolowo's betrayal, Ojukwu's sacrifice and why we are where we are. Awolowo in his quest to rule Nigeria for 'even one day' went ahead to plan a coupe' in our neigbouring country to overthrow the Military Government and was also Betrayed by Jakande, just as he betrayed Ojukwu, his conversations were recorded and presented to the military junta, he was instructed to 'take the path of honor', He committed Suicide. This is truth and its bitter.

[size=13pt]You see what I mean, you mentioned all these Awolowo did. NOW WAS ACHEBE THERE TO COMFIRM THIS FROM USA OR BAIFRA ??[/size]

Lets be realistic here and not swallow what every bigot throw at the table

IN fact that aside, what was his impact on the average Nigerian

[quote author=Mr. Globe]Are you from Ijebu like Awolpwo? Only Ijebus are true Yoruba according to awo (frog)[/quote]No I am a true born Lagosian from the royal family. I am half Awori(father) half Egun (mother).

I am not being a tribalist here, teach me and I would understand. I do not intend to stand on my point if I am ignorant here.

Tell me the positive impact Achebe achieve in the life of an average Nigerian. Give me good sensible achievements and I would drop this argument.

Lets be realistic here and not think using sentiment and petty tribalism. Soyinka is not the discussion here. The question is simple and it is not about Achebe's book/s

What did Achebe achieve for others before passing on ? I mean, what positive impact did he make ?

[quote author=tpia@]Olufunmibi


The controversy was present long before achebe wrote his book, and the animosity would still be present even if he hadnt written it.

People are just walking round on eggshells these days, looking for any reason to blame others for the frustration they feel, thus they just latch on to anything as an excuse to vent their tension.[/quote]And is the controversy still strong as what Achebe has done now ? How many writers in history since the first AD have written book to paint themselves as the best while others are antagonist to their progress ?

[quote author=tpia@]How many people have actually read the book?[/quote]A lot including me. Any problem ?

thelastPope: You know what is really funny?

1. Hausa/Fulani will never marry Yoruba

2. Igbo and Yorubas are inter-marrying at a crazy rate

3. Hausa/Fulani always insult Yorubas.

4. You cannot find an Igbo leader insult Yorubas

5. But Yorubas will always allign with the Hausa/Fulani in government

6. And Igbos will always allign with Hausa/Fulanis in business


Theres something really wrong here!

Yes very funny indeed because you people know how to lie a lot

1. Fulani and Yoruba marriages are very high

2. Yes it is craze, and so ?

3. Hausa/Fulani alway insult yorubas and Igbos don't ? Should we go back to Achebe's book ?

4. Igbo leader such as Achebe, Nnamdi and co have never insult the ethnic group ?

5. Big fat lie, infact the only antagonist of Hausa/fulani rule are the yorubas remember that. Ever since the first republic to this present date.

6. Business yes which is good, how does that relate to yorubas ?

solomon111: Awolowo your god, would bow before Achebe if he were alive today.
Stop this acts of blasphemy.

Akshow: Dont forget that the south westerners produced the only Nobel prize winner. A feat achebe will never achieve even in his grave.

Although he tried oh !!!

all4naija: No! Bluetooth,please! There are others like Things Fall Apart, etc. There are facts Things Fall Apart was translated into several languages and sold very well around the world.

Give it up, man! [size=18pt]No human being is perfect[/size]!

True, no one is perfect

Akshow: Dont forget that the south westerners produced the only Nobel prize winner. A feat achebe will never achieve even in his grave.

again I smell disintegration soon

At least you are made your impart to the world whether positive or negative. Indeed RIP

Eko Ile: chimanma is too tribal just like ashebe so we know her future just like ashebe = No Nobel. All her writings just like ashebe are all tribal and biafran so whose gonna take her seriously.?

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[quote author=me_for_you]Yorubas, if not for a certain desola and her complimentary comments and the responses that I saw, I swear I would have told you all my mind since morning.
Thanks desola. For me I know how to abuse and how to praise. For now I hold my peace. Achebe, ekwensi, ola rotimi and soyinka are my favourites, with ola rotimi being the toppest.

Achebe wrote his memoir not your grand father's own[/quote]speak your mind MR. I am waiting

[quote author=Itoroetti ]he was truly d greatest[/quote]greatest what ? Tribalist or what ? because he was not the greatest, nigerian, igboman, writer, warrior etc so greatest what ?

Eko Ile: na insult and bad luck for atiku to shower anybody with praise. nuff said

true

RIP Achebe.

OkparaIgbo: I won't join you in your distasteful stupendouss and iidiotic sense of humour when we are talking of Innocent men, women and children who have died because of the cowarrdic action of your people. Let Chukwu grant me 20 young Igbo men who are ready to die for the liberation of Ndi-Igbo from this entity called nigeria once and for all and then you can read about the men in the History books if you live to..

so you are ezeuche.

Dee60: The president once said that the FG knows them. Who have they tried please?

WELL SAID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEST COMMENT

confusion247: Both of you should have a rethink before your deluded celebrations. If what you have as your inheritance is a burnt down market, you are empty. Ask your ancestors what did they achieve from the abandoned property take over? Since after that, are you people better than the GREAT IGBOS? This is my advice for both of you, be hardworking and industrious like every average IGBO man.

My ancestor never took anything from anybody and we never experienced any abandon property in Lagos. Don't forget we indigenous Lagosians are yorubas and as such, we are not driven by greed or lust for any vanity but driven by equality and accountability.

We are hardworking and industrious and that explains why every single major company in Nigeria has their HQ in the west apart from Lagos inculding nestle, PZ, P and G, etc are all in Ogun state. More banks and companies are being formed daily by Yorubas and that is why out of envy some of you think Yorubas dominates the white collar job market.

If that is not resourcefulness and hardwork through humility and level plan ground, then what is ?

otokx: [size=18pt]we will not sell our inheritance, if they can't rent then they should move on.[/size]

Gbammmmmmmmmm God bless you man !!!