₦airaland Forum

afam4eva:
No, his identity does not seize because he's the governor of Lagos state. He just has to carry out his duty as a Lagosian and not as Igbo, Yoruba et al. That's where you missed the point.

Nope you don't get my point, he has his Identity but we can not vote for him or elect someone based on his ethnicity in Lagos. thus there is NO NEED TO A POSITION OF ETHNIC AFFAIRS or whatever

afam4eva:
Maybe if you're focused i'll understand where you're coming from. A lagosian is a Nigerian, right? He's from one of the over 250 ethnic groups, right? So, what's your point?

dude, that is why I told YOU to remain focus.

Yes a lagosian is a Nigeria and belongs to one of the 250 ethnic groups in Nigeria, but as far as Lagos is concerned he drops his identity as Igbo and becomes a governor.

When Fashola was campaigning, Did he tell you Yoruba oni baje o or Eko oni baje o.

He was not elected based on his ethnic group but based on that he is a lagosian.

Pifa, thanks pls explain to Ileke idi and other haters

afam4eva:
So, is a Lagosian an Animal. Won't he still be Igbo, Yoruba or from any other group? Or are you suggesting that Lagosians are aliens. Guy, pls be lucid. I'm loosing you.

Why should he be Yoruba, Igbo or any other group ?

why can't he just be a Lagosian ?

You are not loosing me, stay focus

jason123:
@Afam

I have followed your post for a few days, even after the "bashing" on other threads yesterday and today, you remained calm, free and intelligent but on this occasion, you have disappointed yourself.

I have always thought people were Lagosians first before all this ethnic junk. I tend to follow Alhaji's POV on this thread. He is right. The creation of such an office will make people ethnically aware. I'm sure you don't want that because we all know what will happen after that, don't we? We'll go back to the post 1993 election, early 2000's and ethnic disparity. Let's try to avoid ethnic tension.

With that said, I believe Dr. Nwachukwu was wrong! Must everything in Nigeria be about ethnicity Please, let's leave states like Lagos, Delta and Rivers alone. Let things take place NATURALLY in those states. For the sake of dignity. At least, us abroad can boast small.
Thanks Afam.

thank you, to even think people like him schooled in Unilag and live in Lagos

afam4eva:
You're a Lagosian but not Yoruba, right? So, what makes you an indigene. Were you not one of those that were reprimanding some Igbos for claiming that they want to be governor of Lagos because they see themselves as Lagosians. Nice you've shifted the goal post. Always speaking from both sides of your mouth.

listen to yourself
I remain consistent

Look at the highlighted part, is it Igbo or a lagosian

Why should he be the governor when he is Igbo ? Is lagos = Igbo or is lagos = lagosian

answer the question

I do not want an Igbo governor in Lagos, I want a lagosian.

the group you were talking about were talk of Igbo, I do not want that

This is the sort of thing I am talking about. The government are just tooooo incompetent to serve US

while our Indigenous company waits to be patronised by our people, Our government is still buying from China wich might even be more expensive and worse than the Innoson own.

I weep for Niaja

afam4eva:
You're a minority whether you like it or not. Likewise the Igbos, despite their huge population in Lagos. The Yorubas are still in the majority.

Afam4eve, I really pity you and like of you. People like you really should not be in Lagos or any other region other than yours.

I don't see myself as a "MINORITY" neither have i been treated as a "MINORITY" in Lagos. I see myself as an Indigene and as such I am treated like every other yoruba person in Lagos.

I have Know a lot of Ibibios that think like this as well, NEVER EVER THINK OF YOURSELF AS A MINORITY in Lagos. How do you define a Minority ?

A small group of people with low population that can not speak for themselves ? right !

Well I am a lagosian thus I am not a minority, My government in this case Fashola speaks for my and my state

Nayah:
Alj haram now tell me about YARADUA, there were no insecurity in Nigeria? hope you kidding my brother, I 've been already in this World and aware so you can't tell me YARADUA "solve" problems cause JOS has been the theatre of a lot of crimes and massacre during his rulling, give me a reason not to think you're tribalistic? because sincerly I think you're not very objective my dear

Then thanks, I still look like a Kanuri like you've said? lol 

Please remain me of the problem in Jos I must to tell you that the Jos crisis has been bad but not as bad as it got before the election.

Tell me of an Massacre that happened during Yaradua's era ? I can't think of any

Yeah my Kanuri princess

afam4eva:
It could be because of bigots like you and Ekoile, that the Eze Ndigbo is suggesting an Ethnic Relations office.

Btw, i like the way the Igbo community in Lagos carries other minorities in lagos along. It's very thoughtful.

Minorities, Who is a minority in Lagos ??

I mean this is a term by Igbos themselves and not others

No yoruba has ever refered to me as a Minority

Who are the Igbo community ?

Bigots like me, ain't you funny, the only bigot here is YOU AND YOUR LEADERS because as far as I am concerned I see no reason for a position for "Ethnic affires". NO COUNTRY does that and NO state in Nigeria does that so why should it start with you or Dr Christian ?

congoshine:
haji easy na. Why u de vex na

I dey vex because that is how it starts.

what has ethnicity got to do with Lagos a commercial center ?

what makes countries work is when people drop this ethnic this ethnic that and focus on making the place better.

I have been following this people and I can tell you, this people are creating a form of division where there is none

Nayah:
Many thanks demdem for having giving me some points about the trouble, now do you think is it fair to jugge someone with jst one year as a Head of office, who inherit of a certain social tensions and if it's so do you think another President will do better in such conditions and within the same period, 1 year?

You see, so Nayah how long has GEJ been the president of Nigeria ?

GEJ has used 2 Years in Office now, with February 2012 making it a complete 2 years

Yaradua used just 2 years to solve those problems before he died

anyway, you looking pretty always

Nayah:
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That's what I've noticed but some people here like to impose their views by trying to intimidate them, because they're non Nigerians or whatever they can give as arguments, I realy think that this tribalistic hatred lead to mistaken many people, but I'll give my opinion whatever it takes brother don't worry, and Alj harem or whoever won't stop me even though they think people don't know what are Nigerian issues

LOL sister, Keep airing your views and I have no intention to stop you.

All I am saying is that Nigeria problem is not ethnical or zonal but Competency and Honesty.

I think you have been reading to much jagons from biafra books and as such you can not clear your head to see a problem and discuss about it without adding underlining tone of tribalism and ethnicity.

Why not discuss on the issue if you know about and not just jagons. Biko gi sister

Reggie2:
Nayah, U don't need to argue with nitwits who do nothing but rigmarole. Your assertion is as simple as a non demented f**l will understand. Nigerian political woes are not caused by Jonathan who is barely one year in office. Such arguments on zoning (which tend to exclude a section of the Nigerian population) makes nonsense of democracy. The problem with Nigeria is allegiance to tribes. Period.

can u shut it

who was Nigeria president march 2010

You ?

this is GEJ second year.

Nayah does not have a clue of what she is talking about

He said the Igbo are peace-loving people who are desirous of contributing to the socio-economic development of the state through commerce.

If so then why should the fucccking  government create a seat for ethnic relations in Lagos another seat so that they can be chopping money again

He said the call was necessary to ensure that the Igbo and all non-indigenes resident in Lagos had a sense of belonging.

What fuuccking sense of belonging. I have lived in Lagos it is not a matter of 20 Years. I already have a sense of belonging. Is this about non-indigenes or about more positions for the Igbos.

Dr. Christian Nwachukwu needs to shut is dirty mouth and stop creating division, when kasala burst the ideeiot would be the first to call others tribalistic, stu.pid mufon

Nayah:
Now read mine: "CUTE thoughts" as you think or say has nothing to do with the fact that Nigeria's issues is more linked to social problem than political one because sorry as another brother have said, which President do you know in Nigeria who has ruled without any troubles or insecurity? that's my point there, so there's no need to take such hostile tone with me, again this is a discussion, so let's discuss not fight thanks

yes there are problem but THOSE PRESIDENTS FOUND A SOLUTION TO IT IN THERE VARIOUS WAYS

do you know anything about Nigeria at all ?

Ok I would start from our first democratic president OBJ Obasanjo

he had a problem with MEND which were the militants in the ND region of Nigeria, He tried talking but fell to deaf ears

although they started there bombing near the end of his tenure

when the bombing started, OBJ as a former military man sent the military to stop MEND. WHICH STOPPED thus problem solved. Also Lagos had OPC issue which OBJ arrested Gani Adams for about 2 years and OPC redueced greatly. In fact OPC does not bomb or kill

next was Yaradua, during Yaradua, MEND came back because Yaradua was more of a civilian

Yaradua first of all reduced the fuel prices from 85 N to 65 N

then  introduced Amnesty, which the Militant took and stopped the bombing, only for Yaradua to die and they started again duing Jonthan's era 2010

Now Mend is still threatening to blow Nigerian up and now a new found evil has now compounded the Issue, BOKO HARAM

Mr president is relaxed about it when compared to the other 2

Even duing Nigerians independeance, MEND killed 20 Nigerians in the place where MR was enjoying his view, Yet MEND still lives on. Boko haram even worse

Johnpaul2k2:
you are wicked
what of the ALMIGHTY Beaf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beaf Ke !!!! NO WAYYY!!!!!

1. He sees Mr president as Mr perfect and one thing he has forgotten is that no one is perfect

2. after the presidential election, he became a bigot, No bigot has ever and would ever rule Nigeria. Fact Insha Allah

PointB:
l can do the job. I will imprison all the people in this list and release them one by one on my criteria like Buhari. Then I will close down Nairaland and jail Seun for libel. I will then enact a law backdated for two years to punish all those who posted bigotic comments on Nairaland. YES exactly like Buhari, like a true despot!

Buhari would not do that, another attempt to make Buhari look bad but did not work

I see you as an Igbo supremacist and even though you might want to be fair and etc, you would want to "in your terms correct some things" which might break Nigeria up

[quote author=isale_ggan link=topic=798574.msg9509627#msg9509627 date=1320793892]Alhjharem, buddy!
At first I was going to feign outrage about being left off the list.  Then I saw the bolded:
". . .forget the usual rubbish some of them post. . ."  

btw, 2 or 3 of those posters may be the same.  lol.

I would support any of these to do the deed: Katsumoto, Kilode, Ajanlekoko, OlaOne, OAM4J, PhysicsMHD (just discovered from his post that he doesn't watch/understand futbol though! SMH), Naijababe, Debosky, Fstranger, Gbawe. 

We can even add 2 more, and we'll have our knights of the round table.  A run-off between Cap28 (socialist), Ekt-Bear (capitalist), Dayokanu (hedonist) can be held.[/quote]Isale gan ti te mi ni kan

Been time, sorry my sister it is because I don't see you on the political section again

All those you mentioned would also do a better job than the current politicans given there comments on NL.

Dayokanu, likes Obinrin gan. The man loves women toooooooo much. I am afriad he would use all the government money on Women alone

Egbon dayo like obinrin ju jor

^^^^^^^ any yoruba that replies this ideeiot above me is indeed silly

Let him wallow in his self defeating post. Let him look stu.pid, tribalistic and primitive as he sounds

thanks

aze:
Since we Ndigbo need to united on this, we have three men that are well respected and widely acceptable to other regions outside the South East,

Dr Andy Uba a politician and former SA to OBJ, Barrister Ojo Maduaeke former minister of the Federal Republic and the distinguished Chief Chris Uba, a renown businessman of international repute.

One question

Are you looking for an Igbo president

Or

Are you looking for someone that would make Nigeria a 1st class country ?

Ethnicity does not = development

when would you people see this

mail4gift2:
Am ashamed of you all, your replies has shown clearly that NIGERIA can never stand as one.

Anyway, back to the topic, i think the NORTH can stand on their own to an xtent, although there will be more beggars crawling into other countries because Sharia will end up cutting the hands and legs of half of its citizen, but they will stand, at least,  they will be the Giant of Africa in terms of Agriculture, if they know what they are doing.

As for my Beloved BIAFRA, with or without the South South, we will stand with our legs pined to the ground, how much oil money as been spent on the South-East since the discovery and after the war compare to that which has been spent on the NORTH AND WEST. SOUTH-EAST will always survive, even without any resources, we are survivors, come any day.

So to answer your question, THE NORTH CAN STAND ALONE and to answer the question of the BIAFRA/IGBO HATERS, BIAFRA WILL STAND ALONE (EVEN BETTER THAN THE NORTH, WEST AND SOUTH SOUTH PUT TOGETHER), KEEP ON HATING, your HATE is FUEL to our success, so please go ahead, HATE, we don't give 2 f.u.k.s

Why are you ashamed ? Who started the thread ? Who are those wiping up sentiment against the North ?

So if there should be any shame at all, it should be directed to YOU for not talking some sense to you Point B and Beaf for called the north parasites, leeches, rats etc

This is the shameful act.

You call it your beloved baifra, ani't you meant to be ashamed of yourself ? even after saying Nigeria would not be one.

The only hater here is Point B and Beaf, others stated facts and had a good discussion

Bliss4lfy was simply emotional which I CLEARLY Understand.

PointB:
I don't really know why I have to be the one educating people like you, I mean people of your ilk.

So you expect Igbos to roll over and go quietly into the night when OPC and other Lagos Agbero come knocking at night. Why did you bother quoting what bliss4lyf wrote and trying to twist it when you know fully well that you dont have the wherewithal. They you shamefacedly brought it to me for interpretation. How old are you? Thirteen?  

Stop this nonsense, Tribalism does not exist in Lagos or Nigeria, only in ur little tribalsitic minds

I don't know why Igbos are too FIXED on tribe, who cares, you make your money and live

Stop trying to generate sentiment in Lagos or against Igbos, you iddeeiot efulefu

all said an done, I would not call Igbos leeches, far from the case. I see them as a rope that holds Nigeria together.

Without Igbos, there would be no Nigeria, Yes they have Oil and gas in Imo, Abia, Anambra and even parts of enugu

they also have Human resources which is important in any economy.

Bliss4Lyfe:
Who is we? Why not Yoruba's or OPC; this is why Igbo's still have alittle respect for the Northerner's becos dey like us are not Cowards. Do u see Boko Haram saying we? imbe.cile

Nywanne, forget that one. I would advice you to avoid threads like this because they would annoy you.

The Ideeiot that started the thread knew what he was doing, I know it is provoking but that is how others feel when some stu.pid Igbo moniker tries to pull them down.

I am sure you understand, Igbos in lagos are NOT IN ANY WAY THREATEN by any group. Lagos is the Nigeria we never had. Lets not insist tribalism with Lagos together.

I am sure you see reason. Tribalism only exist on the WWW. and not outside unless you can tell me of ur personal experience which I doubt.

Avoid threads like this, they are emotional and emotions erupt.

ocelot2006:
@ PointB

Enough of the lies and BS. Annang, Ibibios, and Efiks your true friends?! Mehn, I laugh in Klingon. You seem to forget that you Ibos tried to coerce us into joining Biafra. Why the hell do you think our men enlisted in the Nigerian Army to kick your collective asses? Till that, Akwa Ibomites distrust you guys.

LOL, I taught as much

I spoke to an Ibibio guy in lagos the other day about Baifra and his response was very different from what Onlytruth and co are posting here.

With that said, This is defiantly a knock out blow

the thread has just proven ONE THING AS JASON124 SAID, Propaganda is good

for those that talk of Lagos

@DEsola, you are Awori right ?


these are the oil fields

I know what I am saying

I would tell you communities that have Oil and don't make noise

Lagos Aworis have off shore oil to snake Island and about 6 lslands after Lagos

Ilajes have oil in Ondo state and don't make noise

Ghana has Oil

Ondo, Edo, Ogun have the third Largest Heavy oil reserve in the WORLD

so that you would know I am not lying

http://www.ajol.info/index.php/ajest/article/viewFile/56313/44759

http://nigeriaworld.com/articles/2006/aug/141.html

Here is the lastest

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO1111/S00062/bitumen-exploitation-scares-nigerian-communities.htm

and the lagos has oil and gas, from Onado to folawoyo, conoil, etc

Offshore oil

http://www.ladol.com/about.html

Yet these groups don't rub it on Nigeria faces, WHY YOU ?!!!!


Offshore lagos

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=819692

More oil field in lagos

Further, the bitumen deposits which have attracted much attention in Ondo and Ogun States in recent years are believed to have extensions into Epe and Lagos Island LGAs. In 1996, an indige nous oil orosoectina comoanv discovered an oil field, AJE, offshore Badagry town. More recently, in December 1999, the Department of Petroleum Resources (DPR), announced the discovery by Esso Exploration and Production Nigeria (an affiliate of Exxon Mobil) of an oil field in Erha, southeast of Lagos, 165km. offshore in the deepwater oil block, OPL 209.

http://www.onlinenigeria.com/links/lagosadv.asp?blurb=321

sad and the aworis don't make mouth like this

yes we need more 234next,

they expose mumu thieves very very well

[quote author=Okija_juju link=topic=798574.msg9508921#msg9508921 date=1320787407]i dont want to rule Nigeria!!

The problem and responsibility is too much for the presidency!

I want to rule a state where resource cntrol is in place.[/quote]hmmmm correct as well

afam4eva:
It's funny how people who think nothing works in Nigeria. People who think census figures are cooked up will present the same figures just to prove a silly point. Isn't that hypocrisy?

Absolute trash, NO CENSUS FIGURE WAS COOKED UP

stop lying to urself. it is called self deceiving and it is pathetic

We have don the census investigation times without number on Nairaland and still you are still deluded ?

afam4eva:
SE poor? There's nothing one won't hear in obodo Nigeria. You folks are just trying to console yourself. When the reality on ground reveals that the North and south west have the poorest people in Nigeria. There's a large gap between the rich and the poor unlike the south east where you have the largest middle class in Africa. Ya'll should keep decieving yourself with fake statistics that was probably cooked up by someone.  How  did they arrive at the figures?
What indices were used in the calculation? Someone will just wake up and decide to cook up facts and some lazy people will believe these fake facts when what's on ground is contrary to the statitics.

eeeyyyaaa!!! poor you.

well what every rocks your boat.

Yes there are Nairalanders that can do way better jobs

1. Ndu chuks
2. Ekt bear
3. Manny4life
4. CyberG
5 Gbawe
6. Enyojo
7. Abagworo
8. Aerosapain
9. Abu_Mayram
10 Kilode
11 Fstranger
12 Chyz
13. Igbo2011
14. ChienyeN
15. Even desola and Ak47mann
16 edo girl
17. Akubi edu

all this people would do a way way better job than OBJ, IBB GEJ etc. I can count on this posters to do this job better.

forget the usual rubbish some of them post, if you read there post and understand there line of thinking then you would know these people are smarter or have more conscience than our present crop of politicans.

GEJ and others have a lot to learn from these people I mentioned. No lies. A lot to learn

cristog120:
i thank god this came from the north. i wish it can distract the minds of suicide bombers.

F off here, another hater

kelz88:
Ye, years ago. And since then haven't they had opportunities??


If Nigeria was destined to be divided we would have succeeded long ago.

We are one nation and should work hard to stay that way.

thank you