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[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=806789.msg9603427#msg9603427 date=1321897216]
I always like eastern attire and festivals. They are always colorful and never dull unlike a certain part of the country(chyz looks and points to the left) [/quote] nice one

nice
but that boy in the middle chop up

Onlytruth:
Posted by: alj_harem
Two questions arise from your comment

(1) When would that country mature?

(2) Will it ever mature?

That we are still asking these questions after 51 years justifies those of us who think that we are wasting each others' time. Why not everyone go his way NOW.
Which sane human being would wait for infinity?

1. It would get mature when we spend more time with each other. Countries like Saudi, America, Britain etc even china were all hundred of years old.

Impatient is what you are exhibiting here, which is VERY VERY UNDERSTANDABLE. You see Nigeria is a geographical expression that composes of different countires trying to form a country together.

You do not force things to happen in this sort of expression. rather you give it time.

If it was Hausa country, Kanuri Country, Yoruba country, Igbo country, Ijaw country etc It would have been a totally different case

2. Yes would get mature if it is give time.

51 Years is a short time, Very short and look at what we have achieved.

Let me tell you something that you must have seen but have not taken notice.

Minorities are been absorbed

People are now speaking just 3 languages instead of 250

Most people have mixed ancestry ranging from Yoruba/igbo to hausa/igbo to Yoruba/hausa etc This sort of people give 100 years time would not know there culture so they would rather identify as Nigerians rather than Yoruba or hausa or igbo

So right now that the majority is still "I am Ijaw" "I am nupe" etc then such would be difficult to foresee.

Rather those with mix ancestry would called Nigerians.

Onlytruth:
Posted by: alj_harem
That is how you people always put confusion in Nigeria and blame us for wanting out.
It is like saying you are marrying your wife on a "BUT" basis. If she is smart, she would leave you with your BUT before you mess her up.

Like I said, it is either you want unity -WARTS AND ALL- or you don't.
Here I stand.

when a country is not mature to do something, why should u force it ?

Onlytruth:
Posted by: alj_harem
My friend why do you always have BUTs with bold attempts at unity?
You either want it or you don't. There are no buts about it.

Nwanne kedu!!
I have to put "but" there because in an ideal society, what Tinubu stated should be the case

NIGERIA IS NOT YET AN IDEA SOCIETY.

well I gave a senario for ndu-chuks and I hope you read it as well

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=807758.msg9597730#msg9597730 date=1321825277]I am with Tinubu on this one, particularly the bolded text.[/quote]My friend, I am also with Tinubu on this BUT the issue with Nigeria is that it is not fair on other Mostly the minorities.

Imagine this

if the present governor of a state is not performing, people with primitive minds would immediatly relate it to his ethnicity. Even in Lagos a yoruba such as tinubu when through a lot just because he is a yoruba from Osun and not a Lagos.

Not to talk of Kanuri or zuru. I hope you see what I mean.

just already, take a look at Jos, Delta, rivers, Kogi, all these states are facing tribalism criticise. Why do you think the aniomas of delta want to form there own state ?

I think we should just let things like this happen naturally instead of passing a law or removing it.

I would not want someone from another ethnic group, do JJC and come to my state only for him to be developing his pocket instead of my state. Riot would happen

SILLY THREAD

Onlytruth:
Stoopid thread.
I love and revere BOTH men equally. Both are RARE Africans. They are two sides of the same coin.
Uncommon geniuses.

I concur. don't forget Gen Vatsa

Why is it that it is only the yorubas that agure on this sort of thread

Northerns, middle belt and South-southers don't discuss on this thread.

I would want to urge the yorubas and other non-igbos to leave this thread.[size=18pt] for the sake of sanity !!!! LEAVE THIS THREAD SO THEY CAN TALK TO THEMSELVES. [/size] Haba

the civil war was a bad account of our history and I can't really blame the igbos for the bitterness so rather stop dicussing about it with them, let them try and change history as they suit.

PointB:
The bigger picture is that some tribes are trying intimidate and frustrate him because he is from Ijaw, a minority tribe. The Ohaneze youth would have none of that, and it is their prerogative to voice it out. I think they are on point!

Bigotry alert !!!!!!!!!
LOL dude stop displaying your supi.di.ty here

[size=27pt]IJAW IS NOT A MINORITY ETHNIC GROUP[/size]

PointB and Ohaneze Ijaw is not a minority group, learn your geography

we have 4 Majority in Nigeria today, Hausa followed by the yoruba, followed by the Igbos and then the Ijaws

No one is intimidating Jonathan. You and Ohaneze bigots need to get it into your skulls. How can one intimidate a Majority ? with even a militant group ?

All we ask for is good governance. Is that too much to ask for ? Just because ALLAH/GOD made the hausa and yorubas majority ?

It is not there fault that they are a majority,

so because they are a majority, they should not talk ?. Really you are unintelligent even a fish should not be discussing with you. I am done here.

abouzaid:
Pls everybody should shun this thread. The nairaland owner and his moderators have been busy promoting ethnic hatred here to attract more hits and keep it relevant and guess what? It's working, only ethnically bigotted threads get the highest hits and the admin have grown so lazy that they don't make out time to search out new good articles worth commenting to post here, that's why lame and stale articles last for weeks on the politics forum page, i guess nothing in nigeria is built to last including nairaland

i though i was the only one that noticed

i wonder what this sort of thread would achieve.

flops:
Both the person who started this thread, and the ones arguing for or against are wrong.

If the trains are owned by the FG or by the Osun State government, or even by the devil himself, the bottom line is

it is the job of a governor to facilitate the development of his state and people by any legal means necessary.

All that is required is that we mention what he did and how he was able to achieve it. No praise!

He is just doing his Job. 

Unfortunately, we have been thoroughly starved of good governance such that minor things like this excite us!

True, very true

okstol:
@Kobo, u are totally spot on[b]. An unbiased poster knows that they should come to your state to get d goods. Lagos state benefits more than Osun. Remember these farmers must surely pay tax to lagos state govt. before selling their farm produce. Thereby making Osun state government to be more of a charitable organisation. Benue state is known for yam cultivation, the retail sellers from d se and ss goes to Benue state to buy yam and some other harvested crops and pay some taxes to d Benue state govt and not d other way round. We can remember vividly well (for those of us with d consciousness of history) that the Brits took our raw materials to uk and get them back to us as finish goods for us to buy at exorbitant rate. [/b] The Chinese and d Asian tiger economies in d far east asia doesn't send their goods to Africa and other parts of d world, rather they made trading easy for any prospective buyer/importer to do business with them.(By developing their infrastructure and removing some bureaucratic bottlenecks for business transaction). When these retail sellers from lagos goes to Osun to buy these goods, remember that the hospitalism and some other sectors of the state will also benefit from it. Let's remove every clog of ethnic sentiments from our reasoning and set d records straight for our leaders to give us what we want. Not bc i aint from d sw will make me not eulogize BRF for his tremendous achievement in Lagos state or any other part of the country where I'm not from. Let us be civil with our post. We mustn't insult people just bc they hold different opinion with ours.

LOL bros, i don't agree with you on this one

1. Stop comparing countries that are trading with states within a country that are trading.

2. This is one of ACN manuifestors of economic integration.

3. If Osun and Ekiti provide food for Lagos even for free, does it matter ? So long as the farmers are paid good money

4. Tax by Lagos state is shared by the ACN states, thus regionalism

5. The money Lagos state generates from this would improve the lifes of Osun citizens in the sense that they can easilly come to lagos and enjoy what ever benefit it has to offer. Remember Tinubu is from Osun state.

6. No state governor would want his money been taken to another state unless there is extra benefit for them and as we can see there is. Because money made from Lagos is taken to other SW states if necessary


7. The railway Fashola is building to connect the SW, kwara, delta and edo is not an easy feet. The Fg has no helping hand in this so who is funding it ? Is it not from things like this.

8. This would reduce inflation as farmers don't have to be thinking of paying for transportation thus increasing the food prices. We already know the highest food prices are in Lagos. A tuber of Yam sold in Osun for 20 Naira can go for 70 -200 Naira in Lagos which is part due to transportation which is not sorted now.

9. Everyone cannot live in Lagos, this transportation of food by train is a good feet to provide easy access to the farmers and the consumers in this case lagos. The farmer does not have to worry of his goods been stolen on the road, accidents etc

I can keep going on and on.

[quote author=9ja_I_hail link=topic=806824.msg9591615#msg9591615 date=1321723744]Ota farm has always been OBJ's farmland before he was imprisoned and taken over by the FG.

@above.

ota farm was build with Nigeria money,i remember the name then was operation to feed Nigerians how come it later became obj farm?

you you are not getting you facts straight.[/quote]Some of you just posting and without facts or anything

When did Ota farm come up ?

Operation feed the nation by OBJ was in 1979 and he was the president from 1976-1979

Ota farm not Obasanjo farms and was built in 1979 in Ota current state ogun

before he was imprisoned, he brought Ota farm from the FG back then IBB and was using that to sustain himself

then after he came out of prison, He then expanded to cross river, delta, Osun, ekiti, Kano, adamawa among others

so what money are you talking about

operation feed the nation :- http://www.thp.org/what_we_do/key_initiatives/honoring_africa_leadership/laureate_list/general_obasanjo

How obasanjo Ota farm came to be :-http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=lnqPFG2c79UC&pg=PA147&lpg=PA147&dq=history+of+Ota+farm&source=bl&ots=GYyW75DYTn&sig=mj_WuOa1Th5mb1hZZbh-du8bMF4&hl=en&ei=O_zHTrvhBcKN8gPngrF5&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CFgQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q&f=false

abouzaid:
@alh_harem, ka beri shi, you should not waste your energy arguing with an unrepentant ethnic bigot. @nchara nwoke m, kedu ife na eme gị? Jide onwe gị aka. What's my concern with rural sociology or agricultural economics? When have poultry stop being part of agric? You made a very sensible submission about the fragmentative land holding in igbo land and i supported you by saying that i have seen such in most parts of anambra. Asha80 also suggested that i could counter that obstacle by meeting the owners of the large tracts of unoccupied forestland in nsukka to acquire the land for mechanized farming of which i responded that i intend to do so at igbariam. What's there to fight about? Ok, suggest an appropriate title for the thread and i will rename it just to gain your peace. Jiri ya nwayo na onwero ife eji okwu na ụka eme

dan'uwa, Na gode.

Nchara:
End of story, really. We are evenly spread in all human endeavours. Thanks.

Is that not the same thing I was explaining to You ?

DUde grow up, your attitude on this thread irritating.

guonno:
Yorubas loves nothin about GEJ because they hold no reasonable political office in this dispensation- dey needed senate president, they didnt get it, they needed deputy, dey dint get it, dey begged for speakership, dey dint get it, infact dey begged for evry important position but did not get it, if u igbos are in their position will u be happy? Lol. And u yorubas peoples, call what we do "follow-follow", but dont forget that politics is a game of follow"follow. U voted enmass for GEJ which is follow follow. No wonder u begged him to do something about the shortchanging u people faced, but unfortunately he did not do anything to effect a change or give u any reasonable position in the top polity, IS THAT NOT Y YOU ARE NOT LIKING HIM? Well the igbos feel that gboko haram is slowing down the speed of development in nigeria which indirectly affects them, ndigbo is ashamed that nigeria till now is not the envy of great countries like china and america. The igbos needs electricity in the south east, it is high time the igbos turned the east into the present day dubai. Innoson group now produces locally, 30% of what they use to assemble their vehicles, most other country manufacture at least 50 - 60% of the products made in their country. The tractors in borno state mechanization authirity has a made in china logo but the engine of these tractors are made in hong kong, therefore in no time innoson and annamco in Enugu will export cars to foreign countries. We need power for all the changes in the east, and the only presido whom is willing to give power to nigerians if allowed to, is been disturbed and u want us to keep shut? Well i dont blame u yoruba (cowards that has not said anything to gboko haram that has succeeded in chasing away all the potential investors from our country). OBJ did not fix power, rather he ate all the funds allocated to power, failed to repair our refinery because u dirty Yoruba people were importing fuel. This has come to an end, keep calling us follow-follow, while the we (igbos) rise again in nigeria. IGBO KWENU!

You see you do not understand

The SW actually love GEJ and even the political positions you are gloating about is not as it seems you know

read this"How Nigeria is shared under Jonathan"

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/11/how-nigeria-is-shared-under-jonathan/

Of President Jonathan’s 42 ministers, there are only 12 women compared to 30 men. The North has 22 ministers to the South’s 20. The South-East produced only five ministers. North-West and South-South top the ladder with eight ministers each while South-West, North-East and North-Central each has seven ministers.

The South-West, which produced Majority Leader of the House of Representatives, is in-charge of five ministries, namely: Foreign Affairs, Trade & Investment, Police Affairs, Agriculture & Natural Resources and Communication Technology.

The South-East produced four core ministers – Labour, Aviation, Health and Power in addition to having the Deputy Senate President, Deputy Speaker of the House of Representatives and Secretary to the Government of the Federation.

The North-West and South-South also led the park in appointments into top positions such as service chiefs and leading government agencies with nine slots each. The South-East has eight; North-Central, seven; South-West five; and North-East, two. Figuratively, out of 865 top positions, North-West has 218 (25%); North-Central cornered 154 (17.80%), North-East, 139 or 16.07 %; South-South, 158 (18.27%), South-West, 167 or 19.31%; and South-East, 123 slots (14.22 %).


A peep into 11 topmost slots

1. Dr Goodluck Jonathan, President,

Bayelsa, South-South

2. Arch. Namadi Sambo,

Vice President, Kaduna, North-West

3. Senator David Mark, Senate President, Benue, North-Central

4. Justice Dahiru Musdapher, Chief Justice of Nigeria, Jigawa, North-West

5. Alhaji Aminu Tambuwal, House of Reps Speaker, Sokoto, North-West

6. Senator Ike Ekweremadu, Deputy Senate President, Enugu, South-East

7. Justice Dalhatu Adamu, President Court of Appeal, Niger, North-Central

8. Chief Emeka Ihedioha, Deputy Speaker House of Reps, Imo, South-East

9. Senator Anyim Pius Anyim, SGF, Ebonyi, South-East

10. Senator Victor Ndoma-Egba, Senate Majority Leader, C/River, S/South

11. Hon Mulikat Adeola Akande, House Majority Leader, Oyo, South-West

Going by this sharing under Jonathan, you can tell they are not complaining unlike before thanks to Afenifere who does not speak the mind of an average SWerener

Also south-east is not any better off. I am sure you know the power of vice and sfg compared to even a majority leader. Think of it

Now Tinubu has rivalry with Gej because of PDP. It has nothing to do with ethnicity. He had the same with OBJ and Afenifere.  It all has to do with the party.

I hope we have an understanding

Reggie2:
A'm gladdened by your reply to my post. Deploying the military in troubled areas of the north would amount to declaring a state of emergency. Doing so ipso facto means that the federal government is accusing such neighboring countries of acts of terrorism by their citizens; it has political implications in an ECOWAS set up.

Do the governors of BOKO HARAM areas agree that their states be militarized? Do reps from these areas agree with you on this? Can Jonathan declare a state of emergency unilaterally because of a terrorist group? Big questions for you and I.  

It appears you are in a hurry to state that these terrorists are fighting Nigeria from across the borders. Do you have any proof for this? When government recently deployed the military to deal with BOKO HARAM, there were a number of indiscriminate killings. Northern reps were the first to ask for a complete withdrawal and even an apology. We must agree that these people (BOKO HARAM) are Nigerians who are fighting for a misguided? cause. Unconfirmed sources are that they may be present even in the military.

You see, the FAST approach to resolve BOKO HARAM may not be all that easy. Government ought to investigate if these guys are acting in isolation or if there are people behind them. I do not believe that GEJ sees it as a northern problem. Its like saying that the middle crises is a northern problem! Human lives have equal value whether Xtian or Muslim.

Thank you, I see your reason here.

Certainly you are right about the fast approach thing to boko haram. It would not be that easy

Now even our military can not do there job like a good military personnel without killing the innocent and raping.

You see, what I would rather see is a gradual turn of events at least to know that the government from Local to fedral is doing something about it.

The current events suggest otherwise. Boko haram Bombing anywhere in the south would ring alarm bells from Bigots to try and paint Northern Nigeria as bad. THAT I DO NOT WANT

Reggie2:
Boko haram has obvious links with al shabab. Al Jazazeera's yesterday documentary revealed that political misfits hide under the guise of religion to kill innocent people and then make silly demands. It is illiterate and pretentious to equate Boko haram with MEND. If the past administration negotiated with the Niger Delta and then tried to crush Boko haram, there must be a motive.

I see that haram argue vigorously that the BOKO HARAM problem must be resolved FAST. If he is not a spokesman of this terrorist group. Let him tell us over this forum what the government must do TO RESOLVE IT FAST. But let him not dish out a menu of poverty to be dumped on Jonathan's shoulders. I want to remind HARAM that his terrorist brothers were receiving  "EDUCATION DISADVANTAGE" ALLOWANCE from past governments (federal), from oil money; and we did not hear them bomb anyone for being told to go to school!

All can be said of the east but cowardice. OHANAEZE has sounded a warning, PENDULUM OF ACTION HAS SHIFTED THE OTHER SIDE. We are practicing democracy which is a game of numbers. Removal of elected officers must go through democratic process, all these ranting is BULLSHIT

You are right, to be honest with myself, Only an ideeiot would relate MEND with Boko haram. Correct sir

neither did I relate them. with that said, it is a Nigerian problem

I am not particularly pointing our GEJ to solve the problem. GEJ IS ONLY A MAN

rather I would prefer if we all Nigerians change our mind set to think boko haram is a northern problem or it is used by northerner to discredit GEJ government.

Now once that is done,

We can then start by close the northern borders to Niger, chad.

Then the military should be stationed in the hot zones and make a curfew

then the people  should try and fish them out and instantly sent to prison.

Eko Ile:
lol @ strong hold in the north, no wonder theACN won in the north and their governors are ACN governos.

The crazy rubbish you read on nl sometimes .

Just because ACN did not win the North does not say otherwise. Maybe I should have used strong presence.

Nchara:
You are a fool. We are not saying the same thing because when I asked:

You responded to me directly

Which means those ethnic groups like farming while Igbos do not. Which means Obasanjo = Yoruba ethnic group. Got it?

I can see that comprehension is your problem. Ok I would break it down for you

1. Other groups are more ready to go into farming than easterners.

2. Not all food stuff are grown in the south. Items like Pepper, onions etc are north foods

3. This those not mean the SWerners are not farmer but would also eat food produces from other regions. This trade between the North and SW has been going for generation even before Usman dan Folio times and before Nigeria. You can read it up

4. I gave those examples to tell you of some of the farmlands in the SW which is still operational and generating a lot of revenue for the country.

5. The easterners are not lazy only that they are not really responsive to farming compare to banking jobs or businesses.

6. Comparing that to the SW or north, yes those places, you would see farmland everywhere unless you go to the large cities/states like lagos, abuja and kano the capital.

I hope I have made myself clear and stop be paranoid.

[quote author=9ja_I_hail link=topic=806824.msg9591225#msg9591225 date=1321718393]IF YOU ARE NOT BIAS WHAT STOP U COMPLAINERS NOT ADMIT THAT YOUR SO CALL SELFISH OPPOSITION POLITICIANS ARE DISCREDITING GEJ WITH BOKO HARAM? YOU AND I KNOW IT FROM DAY ONE GEJ IS A TYPE OF LEADER WHO CAN MAKE THINGS STRAIGHT IN THIS NATION,[/quote]I am not biased, If GEJ is there now as OUR President, it is the work of Allah and there is nothing anybody can do about it. Boko haram is a Big problem to the society whether they are using it to discredit GEJ or not is not material. People are dying and as such has NO SUPPORT OF ME AND MUST DEFINATLY THE MASSES IN BORNO.

[quote author=9ja_I_hail link=topic=806824.msg9591225#msg9591225 date=1321718393]ARE YOU SAYING IF GEJ SHOULD ORDER FOR PROSECUTE OF THE NORTHERN POLITICIANS WHO IS USING BH TO DISCREDIT HIM ARE U THE SO CALL NORTHERNERS NOT GOING TO NAME GEJ A BIAS PRESIDENT HE IS KILLING ONLY NORTHERNERS.GUY ADMIT THAT YOUR PEOPLE WANT THIS POWER TO BE WITHING THEM THEM,YOUR SO CALL LEADERS HAVE RULE THIS COUNTRY SINCE MANY DECADES STILL NOTHING TO WRITE HOME,WHY CAN'T WE GIVE A TRY TO OTHERS IF WE TRULY HAVE ONE NIGERIA IN HEART,WELL GEJ IS NOT FROM SOUTH EAST BUT SOUTH EASTERNERS HAS THE SPIRIT OF NO SUPPORTING EVIL.STOP YOUR BOKO HARAM THEN IF GEJ FELL TO PERFORM SOUTH EAST WILL BE THE FIRST TO BLAME HIM,DID SOUTH WEST PROTEST OBJ WHEN HE CONVERTED THE OTA FARM AS HIS PERSONAL PROPERTY? DID SOUTH WEST ASK OBJ WHERE IS ALL THE MONEY HE RECOVERED FROM ABACHA'S FAMILY,DID U NORTHERNERS KILL IBB FOR LOOTING NIGERIA TREASURE AND MAKE NIGERIA MONEY HIS POCKET MONEY,BRO,I AM NOT HERE TO JUDGE SOUTH WESTERNERS OR NORTHERNERS BUT ALL I AM SAYING IS YOU GUYS SHOULD STOP THIS BOKO MADNESS THEN IF GEJ FELL U WILL SEE THAT SE/SS WILL PROTEST AGAIN GEJ[/quote]Ota farm has always been OBJ's farmland before he was imprisoned and taken over by the FG.

SW asked OBJ for all the mony he recovered from Abacha. In fact that was part of the reason like of Afinfere and Tinubu broke out of OBJ's causus

Yes you are Judging SW and northerner. You and some Ohaneze elements are trying to relate Boko haram as an ethnic affire of the SW and the North to discredit GEJ and that is nothing the case.

In fact till today, I don't know what Boko haram is fighting for. and majority of us are ignorant to what Boko haram is. WHY you ask because the SW and the North NEVER SUPPORTED BOKO HARAM.

The GEJ won all the states in the SW apart from Osun

Gej won majority of the states in the North-central

and got 40% from each NE and NWern state.

What does that tell you and Ohnaeze ? that the north and SW are not ethnic bigots. Now lets compare it to OBJ 1999

OBJ lost all the states in the SW, are they ethnic bigots ?


Results

Candidate Party Votes %
Olusegun Obasanjo People's Democratic Party 18,738,154 62.78
Olu Falae Alliance for Democracy-All People's Party 11,110,287 37.22
Invalid/blank votes 431,611 -
Total 30,280,052 100


all the 37.22 Olu falea got was from the SW and SS

2003, Obj lost his Local government in Ogun state, and rigged the rest, are they bigots

2011, a Yoruba man beat out ex-president up in Lagos MMAI are they bigots

2011, Buhari lost to GEJ in adamawa, are fulanis bigots


I can keep going on and on

Nchara:
We Put Food On Your Table, Hausa Food Vendors Tell Yoruba Community

Sunday, 21 August 2011 00:00

From Martins Oloja, Abuja Bureau Chief (in Akure) News - National





TRUTH about the country’s diversity and interdependence came to the fore at the weekend during the installation of Dr. Deji Akinwalere as President of the Rotary Club of Akure.

Spokesperson of the Hausa community in the Ondo State capital and food vendor, Alhaji Aminu Jubril, who was invited to speak at the ceremony, told the audience in fluent English that without the Hausa and Fulani, it will be impossible to achieve food security in the south west.

At the event, which was attended by the Deji of Akure, His Royal Majesty, Oba Adebiyi Adesida, Jubril said: “This is our planting season in the north west where we bring food to the south west. But then the foods we sell now are from the north central state of Benue. You know we put food on your table. Now, we are planting in the north west where we bring the food. Without the food from the north west, it will be difficult to get all the food items in the south west. We have lived peacefully with the people of Ondo in Akure. Yes, we put food on your table.”

The event featured donation towards the construction of a block of six classrooms in a secondary school at Imafon community, near Akure.

Other dignitaries in attendance were the chairman of the occasion, His Royal Majesty, Oba Fredrick Obateru Akinrutan; leader of the Hausa community, Alhaji Mohammed Nalikoro; Commissioner of Works in the state, Engr Gboye Adegbenro, who represented Governor Mimiko; National President of National Union of Local Government Employees (NULGE), Comrade Ibrahim Khaleel among others.


http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=58532:we-put-food-on-your-table-hausa-food-vendors-tell-yoruba-community&catid=1:national&Itemid=559

Exactly, we are still saying the same thing

What the south cannot grow, the north does. It does not mean the yorubas are lazy as well, it just means that what cannot be grown in the south, it can be grown in the north.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=806839.msg9591207#msg9591207 date=1321718141]Which stronghold does ACN have in Sokoto and Borno?

I don't care if I sound like an ethnic bigot or not.

Middle belt is more fertile grounds anyways, as the events in Benue and the strong showing in Kwara should have told you.

And as I said, I don't want the ACN to be loved by core-northern political pr0stitutes.

Sometimes it is better to be hated/disliked than to be loved by everyone.[/quote]dude you make me laugh

What is Middle-belt

Middle-belt is defined as a geopolitcal expression coined by PDP to divide the ONE NORTH SLOGAN, It composes of differenet ethnic groups ranging from Fulani, tiv, to yoruba, idoma and Igala.

Now each of this group although are in the same geo-political expression have different aims and ambitions.

In benue, it is normal for ACN to win because of the southern factor

In Kogi, Let me remind you that ACN only won WESTERN KOGI which is a Yoruba strong hold with the help of the ebiras

In kwara, Yoruba is a majority. same goes for cross river because Ibibios are a majority in Lagos.

What else

ACN CAN NOT PRODUCE THE PRESIDENT WITH SUCH attitude you are demonstrating here. No bigot has ever or would ever be a Nigerian president. FACT !!!!

Now that is done, ACN needs to make bonds in the North, Garba is a strong ACN supporter in Sokoto, he is also a well know politican.

ACN also needs to make bonds in the east, which they are doing with the Igbo lagos factor and Anambra

It remains other state.

Think, If Jonathan does not perform this term and Buhari comes 2015 and says "Nigeria this is ur last chance for development" Do you not think He would win

Even if he picks a SS vice. because NO ONE CARES

Sounding like a Bigot would do MUCH MUCH harm than good, take that from me.

already the poster Beaf and his goons have done more harm than good for GEJ

that is why I rather you listen to Akinbi edu's advice keep watching on how things would turn out.

Nchara:
Just shut up. Which Nigerian ethnic group likes farming as a profession? Is the choice of a profession now a tribal thing or an individual thing?

Middle-belters, Fulani and Yorubas

Middle-belt gives 70% of Nigerian food tell today

the fulanis are herdmen

In states like Ondo, Osun and ekiti, majority of the yam, ofada rice etc are produced from there

also you have to think of palm oil plantation, cocoa plantation, rubber plantation along side Obasanjo farm in Ota, cross river etc

As I said earlier it has nothing to do with Igbo per-say

try and comprehend what I am saying here

Igbos are not lazy, they rather go to business or better still be suppliers of those food products rather than be farmers. It is not a bad thing because also not every group in Nigeria would be farmer. We need some people to distribute the food don't we ?

they are equally as important as the farmers themselves isn't it ?

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=806839.msg9588819#msg9588819 date=1321684002]Heh.

I've never been pleased with the ACNs attempt to become friends with core northerners anyways. Much better to focus your efforts on the middle belt.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.[/quote]DUDE, understand the politics that is going on before commenting crap.

ACN has a strong hold in sokoto borno among others

so you attemping to sound like an ethnic bigot is not helping matters at all, I strongly suggest you take Akinbi_edu's advice and watch as things would plan out

You have to put in mind that you can not expect much from the north after the NONSENSE TINUBU DID to buhari and ribadu and gave the SW votes to GEJ after his visit in Abuja. thus ACN is not really loved right now.

Beaf:
This neatly sums up ACN. Ethnically bigoted, regional and terribly corrupt.
Welcome to fascism.

ACN is an ethnically bigoted party

CPC is also an ethnically bigoted party

where is PPP, PDP and co in ur ethnically bigoted statements you throw about ?

Nchara:
It is of no significance to me if you changed the title. The title change is even as cruel and bland as the original title, given your use of the word detest, which also again characterized Igbos falsely. You have already done the deed of characterizing all Igbos as lazy and detestful. I am an Igbo, so I have to debunk your silly characterizations as stridently as I have the time to do.

To begin with, you are clueless and half baked, given the fact that you do not know that farming (that is what your title talks about) is essentially different from poultry production. You are mixing everything up just to smear the Igbo. I have shown you a map of Nigeria (Igboland) and asked you to compare the land available to 30 million+ Igbos. I have informed you that Igbo land holding system is fragmentative, such that you hardly find any single person holding several hectares of land in a single location. I am shell-shocked that you did not learn this at UNN or even observed it in your sojourn in Igboland. Still, I have posted several articles for you to read and educate yourself; yet you keep on parading your ‘I am-better-and-more-sensible-than-thou’ attitude. If you claim Igbos are not doing something, should you not prove that other Nigerians are doing it and doing it better? Why do you focus on Igbos in terms of agriculture? Is there any human being, even here in the States, who would not say, at first glance, that agriculture, especially crop production, is a hectic vocation?

If Igbos detest Agriculture as you claim, why does every single university in Igboland offer Agricultural courses, in addition to many specialized colleges of Agriculture in Anambra, Enugu Imo and Ebonyi? If Igbo families who have been farming and feeding themselves since Adam have the privilege to obtain large arable land, do you, in your mind, think they will not usurp that privilege? Do you know that a good number of Igbos are buying/renting land in states as far flung as Oyo, Benue, Ondo, Osun, Nassarawa and other places to farm?

dude calm down and answer his question.

Now we know that rather than insult and be comparing, what you should be talking about is how our government can maximize the potential of farmland in ala igbo such as Abakaliki rice field and co.

We are all here to learn from each other, no point in insulting

We have corrected him by saying Igbos or easterners are no lazy but just do not like to chose farming as a profession which is ok.

Relax101:
You freaking liar!
Phuck You!
No JonathAn No Nigeria. You heard it loud and clear!

The way things are going with bigoted statements Ohaneze is making, I am starting to think that even if there is an Igbo president, so long as he is not a South-western or Northerner, it is good.

Boko haram is a Nigerian Problem that needs to be tackled FAST !!!!!! the sam way MEND, OPC were tackled.

saying No Jonathan, No Nigeria and relating it to Boko haram which is a terrorist group associated with a section of the country is BAD.

WHAT IS BAD IS BAD. Nwanne Herny/relax101.

Boko haram I believe is not fighting against Jonathan presidency and I don't believe ANY GROUP OR SECTION IN THE COUNTRY IS FIGHTING AGAINST OUR PRESIDENT JONATHAN.

[quote author=9ja_I_hail link=topic=806824.msg9590755#msg9590755 date=1321713010]this mad man how do u want me to explain to u that land mark is different from populations?

use your senses and don't be fool by Nigeria census[/quote]It has nothing to do with census but with registered voters in each region. calm down

Igbos and Ohaneze DID NOT PUT JONATHAN THERE, fact unless they are more than 60% of Nigeria population.