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Relax101:
I support them Gbammest!!!.
Allow the president do his job. If you cant wait, Cameroun, Niger and Benin are very close to your current address.
You all complain like eddioottss.

What do you mean ? Should we not complain if things are not going according to plan or how it is meant to be ?

why should we all go to cameroun, niger or benin ? Who are the Nigerians then if we all go ?

We are not ideeiots, in fact it is ONLY AN IDEEIOT THAT WOULD SEE SOMETHING WRONG AND NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. that is what you are demonstrating here. If Ijaws can complain, what is stoping Ohaneze from doing the same if they know that the country is not on the right direction.

We Nigerians which inculdes Igbos, ijaws, kanuri, hausa, fulani, yoruba, bini, igala, etc are not complaining because it is GEJ but complaining because we love our country and want things to be done the right WAY !!!!!

that was why kanuris fough against abacha

that was by yorubas fought against OBJ

Fulani, hausa,kanuri and other northern groups fought against Atiku

I believe Ohaneze can stop playing ethnic and baised politics and lets set the facts stright.

Ijaw girl

beautiful

[quote author=9ja_I_hail link=topic=806824.msg9589661#msg9589661 date=1321696510]THE WARNING HAS BEEN SOUNDED,NOW IT UP TO YOU SELFISH NORTH AND SOUTH WEST TO DECIDE IF YOU WANT NIGERIA OR BOKO HARAM.

NICE ONE OHANEZE YOUTH GO GO GO GO!!![/quote]what is wrong with you, GEJ would not be there without the north or SW

so what is the selfishness you are talking about. The highest votes GEJ got was from the North and SW because of the population size. Chill

chuks2612:
The op, abouzaid=alh harem.the initial post is typical of alj harem and his mischief,cameleon/double speak mentality.it has dawned on him that most people conveniently ignore him on nairaland,thats why he used a new username to start this thread.to the issue of whether the east can feed itself,well to some extent the east can feed itself,abia state for example is an agrarian state where farming of maize,yam is very common in rural communities,ebonyi is well known for rice production.no part of nigeria can feed itself 100 percent,the core north depends on nassarawa,benue and plateau state for yam.some of the beaf/cow consumed in nigeria is even imported from niger republic and northern cameroon.

Yeah he is alj harem, mumu

afam4eve is a mod

Odumchi is a mod

All these people are igbos and can see my IP address, why would I post as abouzaid only for my to post against to disclaim his claim.

SMH paranoia go just kill u people

Relax101:
This pix is from Saharareporters.
I can now confirm that sahara reporters are fake, Liars and real eddioottss.
There's nothing like deployment from the US and saharareporters is only trying to attract people to their site with this news. lol
I guess there's no more news atrracting people to their site.

If sahara reporters uses a picture from US marines to deplete the information they are trying to pass across, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT ?

Of course we all know sahara reporters DID NOT GO TO INTERVIEW THEM IN THE MILITARY BASE or did they. They could only have gotten that picture from US marine website. Haba Henry

Nchara:
Is there any Igbo family you know living in Igboland that do not have farmers amongst them? All Igbos in Igbo families are farmers but most of them are subsistence farmers, farming to the extent that  their land holding allows.

The OP is crassly misinformed or blatantly ignorant about what he is generalizing

Nchara can you show me a link of the rice fields of which Abakaliki rice is produced from

I learnt it is rice mill rather than Farmland, I might be grossly wrong but I would like to be sure. Thanks

Obiagu1:
I have to finally agree with you 

@ OP, you have a point but easterners are not lazy to farm, they don't have much interest in it because the processes you have to go thru are a bit too rigorous for them hence they tend to engage in activities where they'll see the result instantly.
However, many easterner are farmers. I hope more easterners will become farmers.

Nwanne Obiagu, Nwa Ala Igbo 1

Yes those that go into farming are into sustainable farming aka garden farm and those are in the villages not really for cash crops.

Of course there is Abakaliki rice mill in Ebonyi

seanet02:
Ibo political rogues

Dude why do you go tribalistic in everything. Don't you have any other thing productive to contribute ?

mumu pesin

ak47mann:
SMOKE THEM OUT

smoke them out using the marines ko

I rather see them send a strategist or commander rather than there own military personnel.

Nnenna1:
I don't think we should be too happy about this.

Thank you, ask them what our own military is there for ?

why should foreigners help when we have military personnels in surplus

@ OP

They detest it not because of laziness, far from it

the psyche of the east is different from the north and also from the west

The average easterner does NOT want to be a farmer, It is seen as a poor person's job. This is not a bad thing and in fact in the east, it is believed that they HAVE to be rich thus farming is not concerned an option especially in the Igbo ethnic group.

IS IT A MAN THAT HAS NOT PAID THE WORKERS SALARY IS THE ONE BUYING 150,000 LAPTOPS TO BE SHARED

Haba this is not good enough

I rather see him pay the salaries then buy the laptops which the students would not use

i dont see dangote in the article ?

hope they only go for boko haram and not the people.

Sad REALLY SAD

I must say, We the people of Nigeria should expose this Boko Haram people before they hiajack Nigeria from us all.

The good people of the south and north should all word together

[quote author=haka_nai link=topic=805408.msg9586835#msg9586835 date=1321647043]^^^^Doubt if you have visited the ND.you think people like to arm and die?The ND waters are contaminated you could see the pollutants floating on the water.The last i watched pollution of the Ozone,ND in Nigeria after Russia was blasting hot from satellite images capture of gs flaring.It's a fact the ND is neglected even if they reacted negatively period.That apart we have alot of issues flying here and there unattended to until they also become Boko haram or MEND like before government go listen.

^^^^^Sad and condemnable but what can i say when security fails to serve and protect the people from danger.

^^^^Not a fair perspective of the current situation.The same type populace is held in both case by armed groups.The same political party wrangling caused the problem.The same kind of misconception kept the flames burning.Today as a Northerner i don't know what Boko haram wants and why they choose to victimize the innocent regardless.The media and some people want to make it look like they strictly target a particular people,i say you are wrong there target even in Damaturu caused significant Northern Muslim death.Since the sentiment is there people prefer to deny the Muslim mourns and assume it is pretending.Alot of FGN and state government staff,which when Identified did get gunned down regardless of faith.I can't find a place to define Boko haram struggle honestly.There demands are ridiculous and there actions unthinkable.[/quote]Hmmmm words, I see your point brother Na gode.

Thanks for the education especially the ND struggle bit. Really it is sad, i did not think of it from the people's point of view but from the politicians point of view. I guess sometimes we get so into politicics that we have turned a blind eye on the poor masses.

Thank I would definatly change my views on MEND.

[quote author=haka_nai link=topic=805408.msg9583010#msg9583010 date=1321609821]@alj harem
You are definitely wrong to dispute or say the ND people didn't support the MEND militia.Dokubo and rest of them have come out categorically to spell it out they got funding and support from the communities.
Who were honestly deprived without doubt.My point is despite the reasons for there struggle it was obvious they had significant support and people praised,where they targeted security personnel.Especially does of the Northern extract.They helped them without doubt and saw it as a struggle to kill northern military personnel.I tell you this with facts from even the people that serve there.I have a brother that is in the military and serves in the ND.I have also being sent to work there and i have spoken with some of the security men about the environment.You don't know or have a clue.I still maintain the ND struggle is genuine and the likes of my brother only follow orders.They may not like being there but have no choice than to obey.[/quote]My brother ND struggle was not genuine at all.

If the people clapped for Boko haram for killing or assulting Police or military men in the north, it is perfectly understanable, In fact just 2 weeks ago in Maiduguri, 100 muslims were killed by soilder. This people were praying in the mosque before the soliders came and kill them the the attempt to fight Boko haram

The ND "struggle" was a struggle by some few cabals in the ND region ecspecially edwin clark to make an Ijaw majority aka South south man the President.

It was a well staged cause, and done according to plan. Lets ask ourselves this questions

1. How did the so called ND militant get those weapons ?

2. How did Boko haram get those weapons ?

Do you know that in the last election, the Sultan among other northern leaders suppoted GEJ for the presidency, I mean how did GEJ get 40% in Sokoto ?



to answer your question, you need to look at the previous administration and where militancy begun aka OBJ era.

MEND was created for power to remain in the South, just like OPC

Boko haram does not favour northern interest but only deceive the people we were clapping for them. Boko haram has killed more northern MEN than any single group before. It is all for political power but they have sweep up sentiments of US the people to support them as a form of anti-police force

ezeagu:
You're wrong. The ethnic groups in the states obviously have more history together being neighbors, this gives them a stronger history being together and interacting. Igboland, and its culture, is like a gradient, so no wonder how the states are cut so roughly (using landmarks) and how[b] its mindless to generalise a characteristic of an Igbo state when there are hundreds of cultures overlapping the false boundaries[/b].

I am sorry if my generalisation hurt your feeling but I just had to let people like NRI PRIEST know the way like of us are looking at the issue.

I rather see states in alaigbo overlap clans ans sub-groups

I mean a clan or sub-group in 2 different states, thus intermixing

[size=15pt]Now the main point I am trying to point out to NRI PRIEST, bandit and co[/size]

Learn to stop talk or posting based on immediate emotions and rather think before posting.

Words like "Imo people are this" we anambra people are that etc would only cause division among ndi igbos

rather stop thinking about clans and states. think of it as my people start from anambra to Imo state etc

Once you have that sort of idea and mentallity, you would see each other as a group rather than individuals.

Don't get me wrong, I really do not mean to get into this discussion, but It pains me each time I see igbo people fighting among each other.

I ask myself why ? Why would an Uche from onicha have things against another Uche from Abia ? Then it clicked to me that you do not see Igbo as an ethnic group rather it is seen as a collection of ethnic nationalities that came together to be called Igbo.

thus I thought of a solution

then I realised it has to do with the mentality in which discussions are approached.

Yes even I that talk on Igbo issues, my people are not united so who am I to talk ? right !

Well, maybe it is because I love the Igbo culture and I am fascinated by them, who knows but yes there is a connection somewhere. apart from my parental

ezeagu:
I hope you know that these are states that you're talking about, and not Igbo ethnic groups, and that Igbo people (the real ones anyway) base their generalisations and cultural affiliation on town and ethnicity, instead of 20 year old states?

Yes and NO

I am sorry ezeagu but want I noticed is that the chracteriszation and generalisation in ala igbo is done based on 2 things but one precedes the other.

1. Based on states
2. based on clans

Based on states in the sense that some families see clans in there own state more favorablly than the other, a sense of "next door clan/village" is better than going to lets say ezza in benue state or something

based on clans because some clans would prefer there male children marry within the same clan. Note : This is not a cultrual thing but just based on individual believes

aribisala0:
i am sorry alhaji harem[b] i think this is really a lot of rubbish[/b]. i am quite different from all my mother's sons and there is much variation in my family alone not to talk of our town. every group has its own share of
hardworkers
lunatic
and scoundrels.
unfortunately it is the nature of humans to put people in boxes but reality is very different.
there is more intra-group than inter-group variation
the only people that believe such rubbish are people that have never travelled. recently i found out that many black South Africans have the idea that Nigerians smell

Yes it is rubbish because it should not be happening. even today it happens in every group of people yes even hausa. and even my family, people are individuals but it is characteristics that came to me each time I interact with differnet ndi igbos

I know this would be a wake up call for my igbo brothers to STOP viewing each other as such and work on the common thing that binds ndi igbo which is

1. there hardworking nature
2. there buiness spirit
3. individualism ( yes binds people together)
4. Justice.

I really hope this happens fast

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=806030.msg9581137#msg9581137 date=1321573496]Presumably it was cheaper to import from abroad. Thus, no real surprise that LSG wouldn't buy Nigerian vehicles.[/quote]Nope the made in Nigeria is cheaper

also even if it is more expensive, would it not get cheaper the more people patronize them ?

NRI PRIEST:
Alh harem, u are a complete hypocrite!! So, you rebuked some Igbos here for using yoruba groups to comparison in relation to Igbo groups set up but you are quick to point that just like Onicha folks had settled in Anambra lands there are Igbos that settled in lagos!! What a man of dignity !! For your info. Igbos did not settle in lagos but simply went there to work!! They worked their hands to the bones,bought lands from the Aworis and built their houses and businesses. I have never seen an Igbo man in lagos fighting over a land that he didnt buy with his hard earned money!
Onicha people on the other settled in another mans land,got accepted cause they were our brothers but they went ahead and device a plot to steal lands that belong to their neighbor who accepted them after they were chased out by the Benins who knew they were Igbos and aint Benins. Even though the insecure lots considered Benin as their acenstral home.
So, Alh harem describe the basis of your comparisons to me ?

dude I was just trying to point out to you your mistakes, and how to think of things if you really want this Igbo unity to work.

I have meant some anambra folk in fact lived in anambra and spoke to them, I must admit there is a sense of superiority complex to there fellow Igbos. ( I know some would think I am trying to cause discord)

You see, I am an outsider and a settler in Ala igbo back then and in anambra i meant some igbos from different states in the south east.

ok

Anambra [/b]people to me are seen as the superior Igbos and even the people make it know to us outsiders by using words like core-igbo, real-igbo etc. [b]Also they believe they are the ones carrying the igbo cause. thus an anambra man(quote me on this again) is likely to be more friendly to an Yoruba man or an aboki than to lets say delta igbo or imo

why you ask :- Because as they believe in ranking and believe they push the igbo cause and on the same level with the Yoruba or aboki man in both sophistication and politically.

Abia - they have a lot of inferiority complex and feel threaten by anyone or group. they live in past glories. They also believe they should be where anambra igbos are on. They LOVE being part of larger groups and a sense of direction which is similar to the anambras.

ebonyi- they are more or less the quite ones, Infact it is rare to see an ebonyi man in the 3 core igbo states.

Imo - This is the truth and I would say it as it is. IMO PEOPLE IN THE WHOLE OF NIGERIA ARE THE NICES PEOPLE YOU CAN EVER MEET. even better than gwari people (northerners would know this) . Imo people are a blessing to Nigeria not to lie. All the Imo people I have met In lagos, anambra, abuja, port harcourt etc have NEVER had any hint of tribalism or superiority complex. In fact talk to an Imo man, the way he is cool calm and collected, truthfully you would love the igbo culture.

Enugu- this are the ones that bring the live and let live mentality to us. They exhibit hints of superiority complex at times but not as much as Abia and Anambra. The enugu man would rather listen and learn but knows what he wants to do in his heart. He would not talk much, they are also very pedantic in there approach to things.

Now people would say I want to cause discord or hate between brethering but I believe once you understand yourselves and see how people look at this then i believe you can correct yourselves.

You see maybe you do not see this characteristics in urselves but WE see it. I know some would call me a tribalist for this as well given my past reputation

Lastly, I would like to point out that as Andre Uweh and rightly said, THERE IS NO GROUP THAT DOES NOT GO THROUGH THIS YES EVEN IN THE CORE NORTHERN STATES. but it only becomes a problem if things like this are taken to heart or it is hindering the progress of the people.

I would love to see a day were I would hear one Igbo dialect, and a well unified igbo, yoruba and hausa, internally and Nigeria at large. DON'T TRY TO BE A GROUP YOU ARE NOT, TRY AND WORK LIKE THE WAY YOU PEOPLE ARE BUILT ON, DO NOT COMPARE YOURSELVES TO OTHERS.

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=804022.msg9579972#msg9579972 date=1321559207]I will succeed one day. [/quote]chasing tpai around ko

chyz no let me catch u o

dayokanu:
Who was the first person to defend MEND after the october 1 bombing wasn't it Retardeen??

It's a fact on NL that many SS ppl supported them some even argued that they are not terrorists

The first person to defend Mend was not GEJ, GEJ NEVER DEFENDED MEND but neither did he castigate them as we would have expected

The SS people on this forum do not support MEND unless likes of ezeuche and other bigots that think supporting mend = SS/SE country.

Real SS people like, Kpogede, Jason, Ibime, and even BEAF did not show any support for mend but neither did they castigate MEND, they were indifferent about it.

Lets be careful here

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Very good , I am waiting for chyz to reply

He would always find something that would make Biafra saints when the records are there.

dayokanu:
Just the way most SS ppl cheered and openly supported MEND and even bank rolled them

That includes the president Odechukwu Retardeen

when was that ?

stop posting false things