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Psoul:
I fail to agree wit u totally here.

If u effect the minimum wage it will definitely affect almost every staff unless if the organization is not running a uniform salary structure.

Let me explain a bit. In salary structure, we have what is called GRADE LEVEL and STEPS.
You may be in Grade Level A Step 1. Let's take this as the salary of a new entrant.
In each of the levels, there are different Steps, let's say Step 1-14. U move from Step 1 to Step 2 ones every year. When u complete these steps, U may move to the next Level, say Level B Step 1.

Assuming that before the New Minimum Wage, A new staff on Level A Step 1 was earning N18,000 and another Staff that has put in 3 years in the company who is in Level A Step 3 was earning N30,000. Now u want to implement the new Minimum Wage of N30,000, you will increase the salary of that new staff from N18,000 to N30,000. This will mean that the new staff will start earning salary that is equal to the staff that had put in 3 years in the company.

To avoid this kind of clash, you will like to effect the same minimum wage to that staff on Level A Step 3. When u do this, u will see that it will also clash with the next level or step of staff. To avoid this unhealthy clashes, u have to effect the new change to all Levels and Steps in that salary structure of the company.

Bros you are still explaining the same thing he said na..He said minimum wage affects "majorly" people earning below the minimum wage but just a little adjustment for higher earners....Is that not the same explanation you are giving here? Where is the disagreement? If you are already a senior staff (GL 8 and above) don't expect any significant increment.....Na so i warn my aunt who got promoted from GL12 to 13 and was expecting a big difference she no gree hear me, when she received alert of 3k increment she nearly fainted.

easyhacq:
Op said Faculty of Medicine, why are people misquoting him?

Ignorance of the highest order. I wonder why they can't just comprehend a simple statement....so many unemployable graduates around. Chaiii Naija.

Noel1:
First class 4 medicine?

The OP sure needs 2 go 2 school

Pls read again what the OP clearly wrote; it says Faculty of Medicine, you who do not understand this is asking OP to go to school. Nawao. BSc Anatomy, BSc Physiology, BNSc etc are all classified courses under the faculty of medicine.

MrHistorian:
A degree in MBBS is unclassified.

#Thrash.

It says faculty of medicine with no mention of MBBS. Faculty of medicine has classified BSc courses like Anatomy, physiology, Nursing etc. How is it thrash?

Mcreloaded:
OP please correct your statement from drugs to medication.
You only take medication to get better or well while you take drugs to achieve a high like a drug addict.
Imagine someone saying I am on drugs compared to I am on medication

When you take any substance to make you high it can translate to be high on drugs.
But you can never be high on medication as it was prescribed by a doctor and administered to you by a pharmacist or chemist

We understand your point of view, however, the terms medication, medicine, and drugs are used interchangeably in the field of medicine to mean same thing (as correctly used by the OP). Ur view point applies mostly in psychology and counselling fields.

kinibigdeal:
Pgd is 18months I think. As per the amount, I have no idea

PGD is only two semesters.

yuanexchanger:
congrats.They still like this man despite all that has happened.May the best candidate win.for rmb check siggy

Not that people like him but he knows how to use political events to his advantage. The guy is a smart politician. He started from grassroot as motor park tout and rose to the peak. The moment he realized that he had lost support of the masses and his re-election will be tough, he turned against the federal govt and his party (APC) and declared support for his people then decamped to PDP. The federal govt started persecuting him using EFCC and that won him more sympathy from the masses.
The events of presidential/senatorial polls further made things easier for him; all the APC senators lost and one of them (Senator Akume) who was his former godfather declared war and swore that he must retire governor Ortom. This further deepened ppl's support for Ortom.The masses have rejected Akume and so whoever he supports must be rejected as well. They believe senator Akume's control is too much and must end, he was governor for 8 years (1999-2007) and has since then been in the Senate. He installs governors, selects ppl for key appointments, some ppl even allege that he collects 50% of state allocation....
All these played to Ortom's favour.

wildchild1:
I mentioned this earlier, I wasn't just sure. GTB and Polaris banks are most useless banks ever.

GTB doesn't display full acct number..I have savings, current, and dom. accts with dem...Only last 4 digits ××××××5672

Ayoswit:
There should be people employed to supervise how these meals are prepared in order to avoid such occurrence.

Simple. That's just it. We don't take safety issues seriously.
My cousin almost lost her life last year in a boarding school due to an error of a kitchen staff who substituted caustic soda (sodium hydroxide) for baking soda (sodium bicarbonate). The former is a very toxic/corrosive chemical. There should be safety supervisors any where foods/consumables are prepared.

Guyman02:
With the number of votes that Buhari received in Benue State I don't think I want to put mouth in a matter between Fulani and Benue, it's like a family affair.
Benue will not vote for any candidate that has Igbo man as running mate despite being neighbours to Igbos in Enugu they formed the bulk of the foot soldiers who slaughtered Biafrans and prevented food from getting to starving Biafrans refugees.
I don't want to intervene in husband and wife matter

What is this one saying ? Who won in Benue state?

mknigeriagreat:
Your opinion and you are 100% entitled to it.

Yes and the blood of the innocent that is crying, they will surely pay for it, it's only a matter of time!

mknigeriagreat:
I was just happy for the man sha. It could have only bn God. The recent crashes came into my mind.

1. Leicester City owner's crash in UK, helicopter exploded and he died.
2. This new Cardiff city striker Sala case too very pathetic.

If you follow crash investigations on DSTV channel 181, you will thank God for this man. He was just favored sha. The moment you are up there, and anything goes wrong, not even luck can guarantee your safety but something supernatural. Much love for my able and intelligent VP. A very loyal vice to his principal and boss.

Na warning from God, let him not go and face governance, he shud be going about buying votes in d name of tradermoni....what is 10k? How many ppl have the 10k lifted out of poverty? Why didn't he even share 10k long time ago till election time? ...When Benue held mass burial of hundreds of brutally murdered innocent Nigerians, there was no single FG representative there, not even a sympathetic statement or condolence message from FG....What is d use of having this man there as a christian sef? Nonsense ppl. Mtcheww!

This Virgil guy is a real coordinator at d back....He is d best buy for liverpool...

Kennyprince:
how much is a coffin? You guys make statements you cannot defend. You dont know that the least benue man can feed you and your household. What i know is that in benue, some people tell their children how their burial should be done. If you go against it, you may end up getting terrible consequences . this must be a similar case

Mr man read my statement and understand it before quoting me ignorantly. ....my statement clearly says "I am 1000% sure that it is not because of insufficient funds.....social media children, pls take your time to read before jumping into quoting ppl. Do you know me and what I do that the poorest Benue man can feed me? do you know where I come from? Where do you think I even reside? Very myopic statement....probably coming from an illiterate who doesn't understand simple English...I even went ahead to explain that even if it were because of insufficient funds, the relatives can rally round to raise funds to buy a coffin...This ignoramus is here quoting me.

seunmohmoh:
He might have told his family not to bury him in a coffin or maybe insufficient funds.... The most important thing his heaven.

Rip sir.

I am 1000% sure that it can't be because of insufficient funds....Tiv ppl would tax all the married daughters and cousins from that family and extended family and also tax all the men and relatives....The church can also single handedly foot the bills in cases of the very poor families.....etc etc..

Jman06:
It is better for one to attend vocational training institutions where one can learn those skills than going to waste years in the university studying a course that can't train them for a career.
Industrialized nations of the world such as China and the rest didn't have to train ALL their workforce up to the university level. In fact , many of their artisans have just the basic education.

The numerous courses you took in pharmacy school and the fact that the standard of study in pharmacy is top notch compared to some other courses is an advantage you had. You check it nau, you finished pharmacy where you got relatively better training and exposure, did internship in a hospital where you earned perhaps a 6 digits salary for one year, did youth's service where you also earned better than your peers in other courses. Then you finished and readily got lecturing job, the only problem here being your greed to make it big and fast, but you had everything to launch you into where you are now bro, be grateful! Many graduates come home from service with no dime to start life with and no prospect of getting a job. That's the point of the thread!

What you have failed to understand is that I didn't dispute your assertions, they would be valid (especially in a sane clime) but this is Nigeria, our situation is peculiar and the solutions have to be situation/circumstance based. Nigerians (and her institutions) worship university certificates, that's why they employ graduates as bank tellers? Our vocational training centres and technical colleges are a shadow of themselves becos d emphasis is on degree/HND certificates no wonder a food cafe' wants to employ a graduate and pay him/her 10k....Like you rightly pointed out that industrialized world don't need their artisans to have a degree certificate, it is different with us and so the youth need to prepare themselves appropriately...
You don't need a university certificate, for instance, all over the world, in HSE or maritime safety/survey to rise to the peak of your career but that is not the case in Nigeria. GEJ convinced some of my very senior colleagues with int'l organisations to come home and contribute to maritime safety. They are senior managers with all d necessary safety qualifications recognized world over, but when they got to Nigeria, the issue of university certificate came up...
Nigeria is far below even the third world level, it is quite disheartening but that is the bitter truth...
So like I said our situation is peculiar, our love for certificate supersedes even experience and skill, hence we need to position ourselves (the youth) in like manner!.

spiritualmubi:
I get your point sir, my interest is in industrial pharmacy, then community, thanks sir, that was helpful, my aim is higher than average.

Okay..best wishes!

Jman06:
Bro, you are deviating from the point of the thread. Multiplying one's income sources is a different thing all together! The point is, did your training as a pharmacist give you a job when you finished?? And the answer is yes. Many graduates cannot boast of that. That lecturing job you left is what many people have been fasting and praying for.

I wonder the satisfaction in going to the university to study anatomy only to graduate and go back to learn fashion designing, when the person could have done so with just basic o level education.

The point is, instead of studying some courses that would not train one for a career the person should simply go and learn a skill/trade, unless such person is from a wealthy home and can afford to study further and become a researcher in that field.

Bros I am not deviating, I am a realist and this is Nigeria, we don't have such number of institutions to accommodate a good number of candidates into those so called juicy courses you mentioned. So people will continue to study the non-juicy courses and would just have to make do with what they have. I told you that education opens your mind to think creatively and innovatively (irrespective of course of study). It lifts your IQ and gives you that analytical capacity to think smart, to birth ideas vis-a-vis problems vs solutions. An illiterate who only learnt a skill doesn't have this advantage. ....
The delivery of a talent/skill/idea by an educated person is not same with that of an uneducated person; what we commonly call packaging is an example-carpenter vs furniture maker, tailor vs fashion designer etc.
Our educational system is a major problem, we only cram textbooks or notes and give back in exams...Our IQ is not challenged on practical issues; problems vs solutions. In my masters in Unilag we were given notes to cram and pour back and get our >4points to qualify for PhD. In my masters in OSH (USA) we were given practical case studies to analyze and proffer solutions, articles to critique, scholarly activity to execute etc...
You don't necessarily have to practice what you studied...I am not practicing pharmacy, for instance, but pharmacy equiped me with strong analytical and innovative skills which I have been able to creatively apply in HSE....

spiritualmubi:
Good evening sir, the Man of honour, I really need your clarification regarding some issues, please what do you mean by HSE? And to the main ish, I'm currently studying botany but I dont just like the course, tho will be going to 200 level next session. So I want to switch to pharmacy, you said frustration awaits he who opts in for hospital and public institution practice, so what will you advice me to equip my self with for the industrial, ngo & community practice?

HSE means health, safety and environment. I am not saying hospital or public institutions are completely bad but there a lot of challenges there that easily frustrate the very ambitious persons, however, if you are comfortable with an average kind of life, you may find them okay....You would need to be open minded, flexible, curious to learn, think innovation, focussed, strive for academic excellence....Even if your interest is NGO for instance, it may not come easily. You may need to do hospital practice for the mean time while looking out for NGO.

Jman06:
Hospital pharmacy practice like I stated before needs some improvement. I'm not disputing that. But that doesn't mean all other governmental agencies are same as hospitals. Like I stated before, I have pharmacists in other agencies who are doing fine.
The point of this thread is not even about job satisfaction but about getting the job at all. Job satisfaction is relative! Somebody can be in hospital practice and be satisfied while another person would not.
I know hospital pharmacists who are also into community practice using other pharmacists as superintendents and they are doing well.

You are here complaining while others who graduated since the past 12years have not gotten anything at all.

You wouldn't understand from afar. Do you know up to 50 pharmacists? I have over a 1000 of them as friends. We just concluded the PSN 91st Annual Conference in Ibadan last month where more than 5000 pharmacists gathered to discuss their challenges and the way forward. I own a community premise too (partnership) so automatically am a member of ACPN. All licensed pharmacists belong to at least one technical group/association. All the agencies (where pharmacists are licensed) were there to make presentations about their challenges, d details of which I can't put down here. Like I said hospitals and other public institutions are for the average kind of people.
I don't believe in average and I don't encourage anyone under me to.. I push my interns to the extreme (professionally). They think I am wicked but when they look back afterwards, they appreciate me for helping them become better persons!
If after 12 years of graduation, you are still sitting at home idle then something is wrong with such a person, perhaps he/she is a mediocre. I was lecturing, doing masters and also volunteering with an NGO....I met a guy during NYSC, he read anatomy but was good in maths ..2 yrs after service he was still looking for job...I encouraged him to go into 'statistical analysis'...he was complaining and giving excuses ...I pushed him more and more and he picked it up, he bought books and read, learnt some apps...he started with analysis of just one project and today he is an employer of 2 graduates in his company.
I don't encourage undergraduates (regardless of any course) to have these casual thoughts that they are going to school to come out and have a job....what if the job doesn't come? Can I volunteer? Can I learn a skill? Do I have any talent I can develop? Can I do a business? I taught my wife graphic design myself, she has also learnt video editing, movie make up/prosthesis, and catering services...She never wanted to but I persuaded her, she wanted a bank job that wasn't forthcoming. She is doing very very well today. I have also paid and learnt event planning and interior decor myself. So whenever i am less busy I help her and her staff out. For me learning never stops, education opens your mind to think innovatively! Wherever I live, I make it a point of duty to "push" as many interested unemployed youth as possible into a profitable venture beyond sitting and waiting for a govt job. No course is bad and no one deserves to remain unemployed!

Jman06:
Just like in every profession, there must be those who ain't satisfied! I know medical doctors who left medicine for business etc. Your use of the word majority is definitely an exaggeration because I know many pharmacists even in hospital and academia who are very happy with what they do. Humans are the most insatiable creatures on earth. While many other graduates are doing fasting and prayers to get even a bit of what you have, you are still complaining.

Bros personally I am not complaining....but majority of my colleagues are really complaining, I discuss with these people almost everyday...na we wear d shoes and we know better where it pinches, you are looking at it from afar. A lot of people admire these guys from afar but get closer to them and you would understand better. Don't get me wrong, just like I said in my earlier statement, (I have also continued to mentor young pharmacy students) and my message remains; if you don't want to be much more frustrated with the profession, stay away from hospital practice. Space will not permit me to discuss the daunting challenges here; poor salary, stagnation, poor working conditions, no room for academic improvement, and no hope of getting to the peak of your career. etc. How can one be happy under these conditions? Just like you pointed out doctors are frustrated too with d hospital system hence their mass exodus to overseas. Yes pharmacy is lucrative especially if you are smart, and there are bountiful opportubities but Nigerian hospitals would only suck out your youthful strength as a young graduate and leave you dry.....It takes more than 20 years (of regular promotion) to become a director and earn around 400-500k. It wasn't even possible to rise to dat level in the past, it was only approved 3 or 4 years ago but some hospitals have refused to implement it up till now....
Hospital pharmacy is for an average-life kind of people not for the ambitious ones.....why would I go and study so hard and come and settle for "average?"....mbanu...you deserve better bros!

Jman06:
You were in hospital pharmacy, not other governmental organizations. Agreed that the condition of hospital pharmacy practice needs some improvement, it is not all that bad.
The point is not you making millions from the go but at lea[sup][/sup]st having somewhere to start from. Imagine, you even had the luxury of starting lecturing job and then readily changed to HSE. Many graduates can't even get teaching jobs in secondary schools!

Bros job satisfaction is not only about the salary....majority of my coursemates and colleagues (both senior and junior) in those public institutions you mentioned are unhappy with their jobs...I just helped one senior pharmacist moved from Igbobi to Chemonics (NGO) recently, one left Nafdac for malaria consortium etc. This is my 9th year in HSE. I no be small pikin again na....I don reach to advise young ones based on experience and reality....my lecturer mates don reach senior lecturer o bros.......

Jman06:
Frustration in hospital and other public institutions how How many pharmacists working in public institutions do you know Like those of them in NAFDAC, NIPRD, SON, etc I know many working there and they are very comfortable. So, give your reason for the above post so I can educate you further.

lolz... @ educate me..I am a pharmacist myself! I did my internship (12 months) and NYSC in the hospital before venturing into the academia (shortly) and then abandoning it for HSE.

Thermodynamics:
Advice for the teenagers, getting a job in Nigeria isn't easy, so don't let anyone deceive you with some bullshit talk like "" it doesn't matter what you study, as long as you are a graduate"". i am going to give it to you straight, study any of these courses to improve your chances of getting a job:

1). All engineering apart from Civil and Agric Engn.

2). Bus Admin and Economics

3). Medicine, nursing and pharmacy. Don't study law.

4). Computer science.

But finally, God above everything, if God says you will be successful in life, nothing can stop you, no matter the course you study. What I wrote up there is just my logical opinion. No offense to anyone.

If you are going in for pharmacy, equip yourself for NGO, private companies, or personal business (community practice, importation etc) to avoid frustration in hospitals n other public institutions.

Patrioticooduan:
Yes he promised to increase niara value but there is no way he can do that with the current price of crude oil.

oyel was less than $30 per barrel when Obasanjo was in power (1st tenure) yet exchange rate was around 110 Naira to 1$...oyel is selling above $80 per barrel....stop blaming incompetence on oyel price.

olaboo123:
A whole glossy Mercedes Benz C300...Someone said the L should be customized....lol!

via https://onecornergizt..com/2018/10/see-car-someone-is-using-to-learn-how.html

wearing an L does not mean you are learning per se....My wife went to driving school for 4months, her hand was quite strong but she still chose to put on the L on her brand new 2010 Toyota Camry (Spider) for upto a month. she always told me that the L makes d dreaded keke Napep to give her chance.

Trouble1:
E don red !
Majority of pdp goons are criminals and thieves

You still believe that there is a PDP and a APC? Nigeria is doomed. So Ameachi is now APC saint after serving as speaker (1999-2007) and governor 2007-2015 under PDP...He is d current minister of transportation under APC.
saint Ngige was governor (PDP) of Anambra 2003 to 2006....he is d current minister of labour under APC.

saint Audu Ogbeh was PDP National Chairman from 2001 to 2005..he is d minister for Agriculture.

Saint Ita Enang Senior Special Assistant to the President on National Assembly matters was house rep member (PDP) from 1999-2011 then Senator from 2011-2015,

Udoma Udo Udoma was a senator (PDP) from 1999 to 2007...He is d current minister for Budget and Planning.

Saint Kashim Shetima Borno State governor (PDP) 2011 to 2015 then Changed to APC 2015 to date.

Senator Ahmed Sani Yerima, former governor (PDP) of Zamfara State from 1999 to 2007, now a senator (APC) and deputy minority leader.

saint Nasir El-rufai was the DG of Bureau of Public Enterprises and Secretary of National Council on Privatisation (1999-2003), then minister of FCT under d PDP....he is d current governor of Kaduna State under APC.

Samuel Ortom minister of state trade and investment 2011 to 2015 under PDP.....the governor of Benue State under APC 2015-2018 then decamped to PDP again 2018.
Senator Bukola Saraki was governor of kwara state (PDP) from 2003-2011 then Senator (PDP) from 2011-2015 then Senator (APC) 2015 to 2018 then decamped to PDP again...

The list is endless but let me stop here for now.

so who is APC and who is PDP? Politicians have caged our reasoning to believe there is a PDP and a APC (group of saints)....I pity the myopic masses!

Umueme:
...i did not want to comment but took a second look at the name and.....
Excuse me,but what does an international flop like Rooney know about football?

For Messi i dont have much to say except "he should try going to another club like Ronaldo did and lets see how he copes there..."

But what do i know....
#MyOpinion

who is this e-warrior calling Rooney a flop? Who knows the name of your village?
And who told you that a player has to leave for another club to prove he is good? This kind of reasoning makes me lose hope in Nigeria. Super stars like Ryan Giggs, John Terry, Steven Gerrard, Xavi, Iniesta, Maldini, Paul Scholes, Buffon etc played for only one club, has that changed the fact that they were great players?
major factors that make a player to leave for another club; wages, playing time, relationship with manager and team mates, trophies, club strength (superiority), his form/performance, club performance etc. If all these are positive then only a foolish player will leave.

it's called memorizing....intelligent people are good at it. Watch 'Child Genius U.S.A.' and you would understand how important it is...15 images of different colours were flashed on tv screen for 5 seconds for a 9 yr old to note and study the images. After which questions were asked; what colour was image no. 4? what image was no. 7? The child got it right.
The medical sciences memorize a lot.
Acronyms and mnemonics are useful techniques.

milvet:
I feel so sorry for Benue state ���

My sister which state in Nigeria you don't feel sorry for?

dbos11:
Baba abeg go join deeper life jare and save us this story

Deeper life with their useless self righteousness have come again. Every other person is unholy except their members.

lirusehn:
I think you are the one having comprehensive problem.
To start with, I am a member of the PDP just incase you are thinking of labeling me an opposition.
Secondly, from the report it obviously stated that 10,896 votes were recorded for PDP on the poster submitted and after further clarifications they found out the actual vote was 9,896 and the vote was made official. What necessitated this report was the rumor being passed around as regards the 1000 votes people claimed to have been illegally deducted where as it was a mistake at first. What then is this hullabaloo all about? On a real sense, members of the APC are even supposed to label us scammers here for mistakenly adding the 1k votes in the first place.

Election isn't won by airing propagandas, let's keep our fingers crossed for Thursday please.

Bros use your brain na, error ke? From where? Do you know how many times votes are crossed checked before recording and pasting? The presiding officer with other staff and all the agents calculate this figure together and no single person could detect the error? Bros haba reason well na, this is Nigeria.