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That will soon change considering the wobble in the Earth's rotation.

It isn't new info in the sense that Africa is said to be the 2nd largest continent; but what I admire about the map its usefulness for comparisons. With it we can see how Africa has been fragmented (Berlin conference) compared to the so-called developed nations

Atlases have been used in the past for political purposes like the ones produced during the cold war that showed either the US or former Soviet block in the middle. I think I've also seen an atlas from Samsung showing Korea in the middle.

[size=14pt]The true true size of Africa[/size]

LAST month Kai Krause, a computer-graphics guru, caused a stir with a map entitled "The True Size of Africa", which showed the outlines of other countries crammed into the outline of the African continent. His aim was to make "a small contribution in the fight against rampant Immappancy"—in particular, the fact that most people do not realise how much the ubiquitous Mercator projection distorts the relative sizes of countries.

https://static02.mediaite.com/geekosystem/uploads/2010/10/true-size-of-africa.jpg

A sphere cannot be represented on a flat plane without distortion, which means all map projections distort in one way or another. Some projections show areas accurately but distort distances or scales, for example; others preserve the shapes of countries but misrepresent their areas. You can read all the gory details on Wikipedia.

Gerardus Mercator’s projection, published in 1569, was immediately useful because it depicts a line of constant bearing as a straight line, which is handy for marine navigation. The drawback is that it distorts the shapes and areas of large land masses, and the distortion gets progressively worse as you get closer to the poles. (Africa looks about the same size as Greenland under the Mercator projection, for example, even though it is in fact 14 times bigger.) This was not a big problem from 16th-century sailors, of course, and the Mercator projection remains popular to this day.

In Mr Krause's map (above) he seems to have used the shapes of the countries from a Mercator projection, but has scaled up the outline of Africa, without changing its shape, to show the appropriate area. An alternative and arguably more rigorous approach would be to repeat the exercise using an "equal area" projection that shows the countries' areas correctly while minimising shape distortion. These two properties are the hardest to balance when showing the whole world on one map. I decided to rework Mr Krause's map using Gall's Stereographic Cylindrical Projection (1855) with two standard parallels at 45°N and 45°S. Distortions are still evident at the poles, but for most countries shape is maintained, and their areas are shown correctly. As you can see (below), the results are distinct from Mr Krause’s map. But however you look at it, his point is a good one: Africa is much bigger than it looks on most maps.

https://media.economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/original-size/20101113_WOM943.gif

Is your comment in response to what I mentioned concerning Genesis 15?

okooyinbo:
These Children that have been indoctrinated by the bible. I pity you all. I bet you dont even know what you are talking about. If you knew, you wont say the Yorubas were known as Hebrews. Prior to the people being refered to as Yoruba are termed Yoruba, each subset of them have had their names. For instance, we Ilajes had a Name before the advent of Ajayi Crowther or any Oyinbo. We are still known as Ilaje. We never ever had any link with the Judah or Benjamin or Joseph. We were and are refered to as Ilaje. The reason we also belong to the Yorubas is in the similarity in culture and linguistics. I am no Hebrew aND no one that lacks in his history should lump me into that silly faceless twisted history.

Not everybody that professes Christianity truly understands the Word and HIS teaching and actually does HIS will.
Likewise, we are aware that not all that are regarded as Yoruba today were originally Yoruba eg the Ijebu.

[list]
[li]Can you tell us if there is any other people in the world who have difficulty in pronouncing sh (as in shoe) just like the children of Ephraim (refer to Judges 12:5-7)?[/li]
[li]Can you tell us which other people in the world apart from the Yoruba prostrate just as is mentioned in the Bible from Genesis to Revelations?[/li]
[li]The Yoruba say that Ela could ascend into heaven of HIS own accord. Also, the Word of God who appeared to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and who many today refer to as El says only HE has seen the Father and only HE could ascend into heaven of HIS own accord. Can you tell us if this is just coincidence?[/li]
[li]Esau and Jacob were born as twins and Jacob became the elder. Can you tell us of any other people that elevate the younger twin over the elder?[/li]
[li]Can you tell us if the people occupying Israel today can have natural dada hair just like Samson and Ezekiel?[/li]
[li]Have you carefully considered what Paul referred to in Romans 3:2?[/li]
[li] Can you tell us why the curses/punishment for disobedience to God as mentioned in Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28 fell on and are still on the Yoruba/Ewe peoples? Can you tell us who the Amorites that El referred to in Genesis 15:16 are?[/li]
[/list]

NOTE: It seems that someone or some people have recently (maybe sometime during October and December 2011) edited the wikipedia page for the “Amorite” by removing all references to their physical features. There used to be a somewhat comprehensive subsection titled something like ‘Physical features’. Amorites: fair skin, blue eyes, tall, hooked/pointed/aquiline noses.

I have modified my entry on that thread by including (copy + paste) the issue at hand.

I just posted a problem/challenge at https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-832141.0.html having not seen this thread earlier. I hope you all can be of help .

Please Nairalanders, help me out - my MacBook (2.4 GHz, 250GB HDD, 2GB RAM, 2008) ain't working.

I was using iMovie to edit/join some videos during which I got error messages. Eventually the edits could not be completed. Then the Safari web browser began to slow down with the annoying SBBOD. The startup time got longer and the system got slower. Indexing (from Spotlight) became noticeable and started to last for about 45 mins after booting. Then I used Onyx to carry out checks and repairs, and the system speed increased a bit. I switched it on one evening only to see a grey coloured screen with this symbol -
https://www.justsymbol.com/images/no-entry-8.gif

I tried to use the install disk for repairs but the only option available was to re-install which I started only to find out that it would take about 18 hours. This I had to abort upon considering the Lagos power cuts but there was a warning on the screen about stopping the process - the computer may not startup.

The next time I tried to power on the MacBook - 2-3 weeks before the transition of Steve Jobs - there was no response; nothing to indicate that anything is working apart from the battery indicator. The install disk is also stuck in the optical drive.

Could there be a problem with the hard disk as the MacBook has fallen more than once?
Could there be a problem with the motherboard?

Please Nairalanders, help me out - my MacBook (2.4 GHz, 250GB HDD, 2GB RAM, 2008) ain't working.

I was using iMovie to edit/join some videos during which I got error messages. Eventually the edits could not be completed. Then the Safari web browser began to slow down with the annoying SBBOD. The startup time got longer and the system got slower. Indexing (from Spotlight) became noticeable and started to last for about 45 mins after booting. Then I used Onyx to carry out checks and repairs, and the system speed increased a bit. I switched it on one evening only to see a grey coloured screen with this symbol -
https://www.justsymbol.com/images/no-entry-8.gif

I tried to use the install disk for repairs but the only option available was to re-install which I started only to find out that it would take about 18 hours. This I had to abort upon considering the Lagos power cuts but there was a warning on the screen about stopping the process - the computer may not startup.

The next time I tried to power on the MacBook - 2-3 weeks before the transition of Steve Jobs - there was no response; nothing to indicate that anything is working apart from the battery indicator. The install disk is also stuck in the optical drive.

Could there be a problem with the hard disk as the MacBook has fallen more than once?
Could there be a problem with the motherboard?

Primate Ayodele, who stated this in an interview with Saturday Tribune in Lagos on Wednesday, said though God revealed to him that it was His will for Nigeria to be dismembered so that there could be peace, it should not be through war and shedding of blood.

Primate Ayodele also said, “God has reiterated that Jonathan’s administration would face turbulence, because he would take some steps that would anger the people and court more hatred for himself, prayers should be held for him.

”God told me that there would be more political tension in the land preceeding the elections. There would be more assassinations, kidnappings, violence, harassments and maiming of political opponents. I can foresee the coming elections becoming the worst in the history of this nation because it would be marred by irregularities which would polarise this nation along ethnic lines. The sham called elections will threaten the stability of the government to be formed.”

http://tribune.com.ng/sat/index.php/features/2913-2011-what-the-prophets-sayjonathan-should-pray-against-sudden-death-presidential-plane-crash-imminent.html

Another prophecy mentioned by somebody else as included in the same report alludes to 4 nations coming out of Nigeria.

“In my prediction of 2004 published in the Nigerian Tribune 28th of December, 2003 the heaven spoke that Nigeria would break into foUr nations. Yet again the Living God confirmed the break-up of the Nigerian nation. Intelligent observers could see that the structure for the fulfillment of that prediction is visibly on the ground now. Therefore, the leader should take note.”

What happened to all the string instruments?

Isn't the Oduduwa nation a prelude to something bigger?

Why not thread/post/comment of the year?

Did it not start before the civil war? Didn't Azikiwe make a comment about the Igbo people not letting themselves be dominated by others but to dominate others?
Which is better: to dominate or to try to live at peace with others?

I admit that I've come across lots of nice Igbo people, and I'm not going to argue about who is more gentle. Why is it that most of the insulting responses have been from some Igbo Nairalanders?

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=828901.msg9813438#msg9813438 date=1324509729]wooo. . .!!  who said this?  

Hey, moderator, lock this dayam topic out.   Lock this nonsense, these fools are really crossing the boundaries here.   OAM4J lock this thing!![/quote]I will like to bookmark this so that when the borders of our nation are marked then we can show the world why they would need visas.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=828901.msg9813291#msg9813291 date=1324507592]Amor4ce,  a true Yoruba individual first of all must evaluate the ability of the other person to acknowledge "iwa pele" and reciprocate it.   Ibo does not know what iwa pele is.   They wake their own father from sleep with a kick, why you think we call them okoro?   iwa pele and iwa rere is a foreign term in their psyche.  We relate with them with "iwa jagidi-jagan and iwa apanle" .   They are blind, deaf, and dumb to iwa pele![/quote]I hadn't come across the bolded before but then your first sentence about evaluation is on point. They've seriously displayed themselves here.

Perhaps you can use your understanding to educate us about the actual pronunciation of the words Jacob, Israel, and Yahushua.

Can you tell us where in the Bible that Olodumare called them Hebrews?
Did HE not call them House of Jacob/Israel?

If El as in El Elyon and Isra[b]el[/b] is actually Ela, and various speakers of the Hebrew language today still pronounce the name as El, what is the guarantee that I can learn actual pronunciations over the internet?

It is possible for us to discuss without including anything vitriolic.
A true Yoruba individual displays iwa pele and iwa rere.

The signs are already there.
Which of the 3 largest nations in Nigeria - Hausa/Fulani, Igbo and Yoruba - has ever faced this kind of marginalization?
What if the split, if it does happen, marks the beginning of prosperity for all the emergent nations?
Isn't the geopolitical entity called Nigeria a contraption/an iniquity of the Amorites (Gen 15:13-16; Amorites: fair skin, blue eyes, tall, hooked/pointed/aquiline noses)?


ELA, whom many people today call El, knows HIS people.

Bi o ba to asiko ati su
Idi a la
[When the time to defecate comes
The anus gives way]

We are not competing with others.

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Dr Fasheun noted these observations:

Dispense justice, group tells Jonathan

By Segun Balogun
August 28, 2011 07:00PM


The founder and president of the Oodua People's Congress, Frederick Fasehun, during a press conference over the weekend said President Goodluck must be seen upholding the tenets of Nigeria's Constitution, to which he wilfully sworn on May 29.

Mr. Fasehun has been a vociferous supporter of President Goodluck, criticising how the top eleven political offices in the country are tilted "precariously" to the North than the South, against the dictate of constitutionally enshrined federal character.

"We still believe he [President Jonathan] is worth fighting for but he should sustain our expectation by dispensing social justice," he said, when asked if he still believes in President Jonathan's administration considering how he swiftly implemented the recommendation of the National Judicial Council, which prescribed the suspension of President of Court of Appela, Justice Ayo Salami.

"We will take it that the President was misled to hastily endorse a replacement for Justice Salami. It is not too late for Mr. President to bring all parties in this crisis to the peace table," he said.

However, he urged "all men of goodwill to pronounce that by the way the Justice Isa Salami matter has been handled, justice has not been done conclusively. In fact, the NJC has demonstrated impunity and resorted to self-help, qualities that must have no place in our law."

Mr. Fasehun implored the NJC to "revist" its deliberation over Mr. Salami's case. According to him, doing so will not diminish the council's constitutional right to discipline judicial officers. More so, the council's actions must be seen to have followed due process and rule of law "which have been flagrantly sacrificed in this case."

On the other hand, he enjoined the Nigerian Bar Association to brace up and "save Nigeria's judiciary by going beyond rabble-rousing and placard-wielding."

Deepening marginalisation

The suspension of Mr. Salami and the swearing in of Justice Adamu Dalhatu further got the ire of Mr. Fasehun, who believes that, in the mean time while the Sovereign National Conference is awaited, federal character must be strictly adhered to in order to preserve the sanctity of national unity.

The current arrangement means the South-south holds the presidency, while the north hold the next four positions of vice president, senate president, House of Representative Speaker, and the head of judiciary - the Chief Justice of Nigeria and President of the Court of Appeal.

He blamed President Jonathan for this marginalisation.

"Let it be said loud and clear that the noisy silence of the Yoruba people should not be considered as acquiescence to the evil being perpetrated against them. We Yoruba people strongly protest our marginalisation. And no effort shall be spared to make our protests heard at the highest level," he said, urging President Jonathan to "veto the confirmation of Justice Dalhatu."

"If no effort is made to arrest the status quo, we will review the comfort we derive from our common bed. We have silently tolerated more than enough. President Jonathan should persuade the Yoruba people that he has nothing against them. The Yoruba people are marginalised and it is time to give them their dues."

http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/News/Metro/5740243-146/dispense_justice_group_tells_jonathan_.csp

and had an open letter to President Jonathan published on page 59 of Sunday Guardian, December 18, 2011 which was referred to here

Ugly Signs Of Yoruba Marginalisation
Getting to write this piece is not the easiest thing for me, not because I worry about the silly labelling it would automatically attract from those who would rather not have the issue addressed, particularly the “marginalisers” themselves, but because there is a sense in which it raises possible contradiction to my advocacy for meritocracy and for regional emancipation that would surpass or render more meaningless the federal honey-pot.

But the truth must be told, and unless and until Nigeria wakes up to redefining herself, wakes up to the urgency to drastically alter the structure of the polity and government, then our problem should not be compounded by brazen disregard for the rules of even the present arrangement.

When I received the email from a friend enumerating the absurdity, the first thing I asked myself before setting out to give exposure to what is clearly a systematic, if not systemic, denial of the Yoruba from virtually all critical areas of federal government is if my reaction would have been the same were some other ethnic group the victim? I satisfied myself that I would have been so equally aghast to the measure of their population ratio within the polity. And I don’t need to convince anyone else of that.

I am going ahead to quote copiously from the report I received which has also gone out to many a concerned compatriot.

It took off asking: “Is there a calculated marginalization of the Yoruba in a democratic dispensation under the leadership of President Goodluck Jonathan? Or is it simply an oversight by the Executive arising from an ineffective coordination of the machinery of government?”

To be honest if the complaint were limited to what happens in Aso Rock or around the presidency I wouldn’t bat an eyelid, for isn’t that what the present (Presidential) structure enjoys, if not enjoins? Isn’t that why every ethnic group struggles to have their man right up there?

Of course the situation wasn’t necessarily so in Obasanjo’s time as I am reminded by the petitioner of Obasanjo’s out-of-the-way “fairness” such that his presidency embraced all ethnic groups even with the Igbos in ascendancy adding that whereas the South West in the main voted for Jonathan in the April presidential election, “Kano State did not vote for Obasanjo in 2003 but was better treated in terms of political appointment than any South West state”.

Maybe, as another friend points out, it’s an ethnic thing and not just with Obasanjo. It seems it’s only the Yoruba that care particularly about “fairness” or “balance” in this contraption called Nigeria, reminding me of the story narrated by General Oluwole Rotimi in this column last week – where out of seven names to be sent for the coveted Staff College training, Gen. Ironsi as GOC sent five Ibos, one Hausa and one Yoruba, leaving him (Rotimi) out even when he was senior to all the other non-Yoruba officers!

But the relegation of the Yoruba is more pervasive than just around the presidency and runs into government agencies, parastatals, corporations, etc. The petitioner writes: “A situation where the total appointments for the entire South West falls short of those of certain individual states speaks of either a deliberate effort to ignite ethnic resentment or a glaring outcome of total collapse of coordination in the machinery and records of government.”

Personally, I cannot see Goodluck Jonathan having a directly anti-Yoruba agenda, after all he is in power by the grace of his Yoruba godfather and didn’t he appoint a Reuben Abati to replace his kinsman Ima Niboro?

If President Jonathan were liable, it would only be to the extent that, in his usual self, he looks the other way while those around him are having a field day executing their own insidious private or ethnic agenda: He looks the other way and the economy is in a shambles; he looks the other way and electricity remains hopeless; he looks the other way and armed robbery and insecurity are rife; he looks the other way and our oil is stolen and mismanaged blind; he looks the other way and the country totters in tatters!

My friend raises the alarm that “available data indicates that the Yoruba have lost more than half of their appointive positions since the demise of President Yar’ Adua”.

And, as if mirroring my mind on the need for competence and merit above other considerations, he asserts:

“The current disproportionately reduced or non-appointment of Yoruba into vacant government positions is not due to lack of qualified and experienced men and women of integrity in their numbers and quality across all spheres of human endeavour in the South West. Indeed, as if to aggravate matters for a nation in dire need of competent men and women of integrity, what the Yoruba have been made to lose in terms of numbers in appointive positions is made worse for the nation in the quality of some of the replacement appointments.”

And here are the samples of key national offices and the state of origin of their leadership as suppled by the petitioner:


“The Nigeria Top Six: President (SS); Vice President (NW);Senate President(NC); Speaker(NW);Chief Justice of Nigeria (NW); Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF)(SE)(i.e. no Yoruba)


“The Legislature: President of the Senate(NC); Speaker of the House of Representatives(NW); Deputy Senate President (SE); Deputy Speaker (SE) (i.e. No Yoruba)


“The Judiciary: No Yoruba in the CJN succession radar for the next 10 years


“Top Bureaucracy: SGF (SE);Head of the Civil Service of the Federation (HCSF)(NE ); Chief of Staff to the President (COS-P)( SS);Chairman Federal Civil Service Commission ( SE);Chairman Police Service Commission(SS); National Security Adviser (NSA) (SS ) ( i.e. the top echelon of the bureaucracy comprising the secretariat of Govt.; management of the presidency; coordination and regulation of the mainstream civil service, the police and security agencies, has no Yoruba)


“Federal Executive Bodies (Commissions): Code of Conduct Bureau(NE ); Federal Character Commission(NC); Federal Civil Service Commission( SE ); Federal Judicial Service Commission( ); Independent National Electoral Commission( NW );National Population Commission( ); Police Service Commission(SS); Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission(SE); Independent Corrupt Practices and Allied Offences Commission( SS );Economic and Financial Crimes Commission( ) i.e. No Yoruba among the entire 10 Executive Chairmen of the Federal Executive Bodies listed in section 153 of the Constitution.


“Top Corporations & Heavy Budget Agencies: NNPC(NC);PTDF(NW); PHCN/NERC(SE); Tertiary Education Trust Fund ETF(NE); UBEC(NE); National Health Insurance Scheme NHIS(NE); NDDC(SS); MDGs Office (SS); NIMASA (SS); FERMA ( DG Gabriel Amuchi) ( );National Identity Management Commission (NIMC)(SE); FRSC (SE) i.e. No Yoruba heading any of the top 12 agencies of Govt.


“Revenue Related (Generation & Management) Agencies/Offices: Chairman RMAFC (SE); Chairman FIRS (SS); CG Nigerian Customs Service (NW); Accountant General of the Federation (AGF) (SW*); Auditor General of the Federation (AuGF) (NC);


“Education Regulatory/Funding/Representing Agencies: NUC (SS ); NBTE (NW); NCCE (NE); JAMB (SW*); NECO (SE); NERDC (SE); National Mathematical Center (NC); ETF (NE); UBEC (NE); UNESCO (NE)


“Anti-Corruption Agencies: EFCC (NC until 4 weeks ago); ICPC (SS);Code of Conduct Bureau (NE)


“Nigeria’s Official Leadership/Power Influence Hierarchy 1.President ( SS ); 2.Vice President (NW); 3. Senate President ( NC ); 4.Speaker of the House of Reps ( NW );5. Chief Justice of Nigeria ( NE ); 6.Deputy Senate President (SE ); 7.Deputy Speaker of the House of Reps ( SE ); 8. President of the Court of Appeal (N ); 9. Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SE ); 10. Head of the Civil Service ( NE ); 11.Chief of Staff to the President ( SS ); 12.National Security Adviser ( SS ); 13. Minister of Finance (SS/SE ); 14. Minister of Petroleum Resources ( SS ); 15. Attorney General of the Federation/Minister of Justice (NC); 16.Clerk of the NASS (NC ); 17. Minister of Power (SE); 18. Minister of Aviation ( SE ); 19. DG, SSS (SS); 20. Chairman EFCC (NC up till 4 weeks ago); 21.Inspector General of Police (NW); 22. Chairman INEC (NW); 23. Chairman ICPC (SS ); 24.Minister of Niger Delta (SS);25. Minister of National Planning (NW);26. Minister of Defence (NW); 27. DG Bureau of Public Procurement (SE); 28. DG Budget (SE) ; 29. Chairman Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission (SE);30. Accountant General of the Federation (SW); 31. SSA-P MDGs (SS) ; 32. GMD NNPC (NC); 33. MD NDDC (SS); 34. GMD PHCN ( ); 35. Minister of Works ( SS );36. Minister of Trade & Investment (SS/SW?);37. Minister of Education ;38. Minister of Labour (SE);39. Minister of Agric (SW)

“(i.e. the highest ranking Yoruba holding an influential position in the Jonathan administration is the Accountant General of the Federation, an officer under the direction of the Minister of Finance! )”

But before PDP apologists snigger in glee, this should be no argument for those advocating the West should move into “mainstream” party regardless of quality of thought or direction of such a party. It is one thing to be partisan on appointive positions it is another to run against the constitutional imperative for “federal character” and balance in political and public office appointments. Even if there were no PDP members at all in all of South West, it still behoves the government in power to ensure full compliance with the constitution, and to pursue fairness and justice if peace were to be sought.

Over all, I am more disgusted by the country’s persistence in maintaining a structure that is so patently wasteful, unwieldy, lacking in dynamism, and, above all, rotten.

Those who have ears let them hear!
http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/tunde-fagbenle/ugly-signs-of-yoruba-marginalisation.html

Nneoma123:
I am not saying you are not beautiful. We are talking about Scientific and Social fact, history,etc, without trying to take it personally. When we look at human beings, and what we consider to be physically attractive worldwide; scientists, anthropologists, and social culture throughout the world, acknowledge certain ethnic groups in various cultures as known for certain qualities. When it comes to many good qualities, all ethnic groups have great qualities. When it comes to physical beauty, Igbos are regarded as more attractive than Yoruba. This remains a fact, whether or not people on this forum agree with it or not. Just ask any taxi driver, African person on the street (Nigerian or not), etc. In Nigeria today, it is common for people to feel they have a pearl, when they are married to Igbo. Igbo women are considered "expensive". In the military, an officer with an Igbo wife, has "arrived". Apart from the physical beauty, they are also known for hardwork and creativity. All women are beautiful, in my opinion. But when you talk about physical beauty, you cannot compare the Igbo women features with Yoruba. This is a well known fact. Even Yoruba boast of Ondo state having most beautiful women in Yorubaland. Go and check the facts: This is the state with the highest intermarriage with East; Igbo, delta-Igbo, etc, etc. It cannot be a coincidence. This is not even an argument, it is a public fact that is not limited to Nigerian opinion alone. It is a fact that your agreement or disagreement will not change.

Isn't it this type of reasoning that was used in promoting Nazi ideology and the racism of the white supremacists? Do you know the meaning of the word narcissism?

The name El as written in the Bible today ought to be written and pronounced as Ela.


Do you know the true pronunciation of the name of the Word of God?

From what I've read, Our Father calls us Israel and Jacob as recorded in the Bible while we and other nations called us Hebrews. Also, this is not to say that the names Israel and Jacob are the actual spellings and pronunciations. Yoruba may just be the the real name instead of Jacob. If so there would be no error in this regard on the part of Bishop Ajayi Crowther as both names (Erverh and Yoruba) would be accurate. Please do keep in mind that we are on the same page.

For dem prospective NNPC employees wey no get job yet, which one dem go come face?

What's the meaning of Ketu?

Moderators, abeg make una helep me delete this post which is a duplication of this other one. The duplication came about as I tried to avoid the antispam bot. Thanks.