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The Biblical land of Jebus is the same as Jebu. Note that when the British fought against the Ijebu, the British called that conflict the Jebu wars. Even my family is from a line of Ijebu kings but I have decided to accept the Truth. What then would you say about the Benin kingdom? I read somewhere about the addition of consonants to nouns that were originally spelled with vowels at the which was allegedly done by translators of the Scriptures into Greek. The Bible does contain our history. About the skin complexion, there are so many images of an oyinbo-looking Christ today that when many people think of or pray/meditate about God, Christ, Israel, they see such images in their minds. This is the effect of using images to deceive people.

OLAADEGBU:
Correct me if 'am wrong. In English we call Him Lord Jesus.  In Hebrew He is called Yeshua.  In Yoruba He is called Jesu Oluwa.  In Hausa He is called Yesu Ubangiji.  In Spanish He is called Jesus, even though it is pronounced Yesus.  In Ibo He is called Eze Jesus.  And He answers us, so what's your problem?

HE knows the intents of our hearts and is merciful. Remember that many White Supremacists also go to churches and pray. Likewise the leader of the LRA rebels in Uganda also prays.

I never said I had a problem.

The names you mentioned (Jesu, Yesu, Jesus and Yesus) are from the Amorites changing of names in the Bible. This is what I have been referring to. Note that these Amorites came here to take away our people as slaves for 400 years (Genesis 15:12-16). Therefore, didn't these Amorites (including the Roman Catholic Church and participants in that awful Berlin Conference) alter the Biblical names to make the assembly of Israel appear like them? Consider carefully what the Messiah meant when HE told Abraham about the iniquity of the Amorites.

A clear example of the name alteration is of David (see http://yemitom./2011/12/24/the-name-is-dawodu-not-david/).

See also https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-822725.0.html

That the world today assumes that HIS name is Jesus does not mean that the world is right. This does not mean that one should begin to look at conspiracy theories BUT we can apply logic like the Bereans (Acts 17:11). Light = knowledge + wisdom + understanding.

HIS name is not pronounced as Jesus but Eshu. My friend, what are the signs of the leprosy described in the Bible? Haven't you ever wondered why the many of the names of Israelites as mentioned in the New Testament of many Bibles today look so different from those in the Old Testament? Have you been deceived?

Names of different cultures are usually transliterated and not translated. For example, an Liberian man would want to transliterate the Yoruba name Oluwasayi as Oluwasheyi, but would try to keep the translation as close to the original as possible. If this is supposed to be the accepted and prevailing logic, how then is Eshu transliterated as Jesus? Do they sound similar?

I suggest you go through http://mawuvi.com/sample-pages

debosky:
A few thoughts about this 'awful truth'

Why can't we focus on the aspects that deal with faith in Jesus and stoop into conspiracy theories like the Catholics killed Lincoln and JFK?

How does the cartoon know the bones in Rome are not those of Peter's? Does it even matter whose bones are there?

My view on this is simple - focus on the truth here and disprove any teaching that contradicts the words of Christ. Let's leave personal opinions and conspiracy theories out if possible.

How about faith in [url=http://yemitom./2012/07/15/e%e1%b9%a3u-is-the-true-name-of-the-rock-of-ages/]ESHU rather than faith in Jesus[/url]?

Have the authors of the website that you linked to (http://www.icr.org/articles/type/6//) confessed that Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the Israelites have negroes phenotype? Have they admitted that the Amorites of Genesis 15:16 are the Europeans that enslaved Abraham's descendants for 400 years? Have they admitted that [url=http://yemitom./2012/07/15/e%e1%b9%a3u-is-the-true-name-of-the-rock-of-ages/]Eshu (misspelt as Yeshu/Yeshua; not Jesus)[/url] is coming to collect HIS people - Israel - who at the moment are scattered all over the world, and that HE will judge the Amorites? Idolatory is still supported on that website as there is an image of Cesare Borgias therein, the image of their Zeus/Jesus; have they confessed that that image is an abomination? Did Eshu ever instruct HIS followers to go against the Law and teach in synagogues on the day after the Sabbath?

taken from http://www.lesleba.com/

If serving governors have no immunity immunity from charges of treason, then perhaps this is the reason for the SSS wanting to question the governor in question as the intelligence agency would need to have a solid case for a successful prosecution as soon as possible rather than waiting for his term to be over. Any lawyer in the house that is willing to clarify for us whether or not serving governors can be prosecuted for treason?

All your analyses haven't hit the nail on the head. Even if there are a thousand refineries in Nigeria working at 300% capacity and we do not import any crude for local consumption, even if the PMS pump price is N65 per litre or the actual price of N35 as suggested by Prof Tam David-West, the fact remains that the refining of crude locally may not be so lucrative. This implies that the issue of subsidy and debates over the pricing of petroleum products would still rear its ugly head over and over again.

Importantly, what you may have refused to be aware of is that the Central Bank of Nigeria has been giving the govt/cabal incentives for corruption. The fuel subsidy wahala is just one of the multiplier effects of perhaps a terrible scam going on at CBN. What we need to do now is to demonopolize CBN’s control of the foreign exchange market. This is what the economist Henry Boyo and others have been saying for quite a while now – Boyo has been studying this matter for 10 years. Something is going on at CBN but it is like attention has been deflected elsewhere, and the protesters including #occupynigeria and Pastor Tunde Bakare had better be aware.

For a better understanding of the CBN mismanagement, see the simple graphical illustration on Boyo’s website (bottom) at
[size=14pt]http://www.lesleba.com/[/size]

See also https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-844884.0.html

The slavery by the Amorites did last for 400 years (Genesis 15:16); and African rulers/leaders were involved in selling the weaker ones into slavery (Ezekiel 34:21).

Yesterday on Channels TV, the economist Henry Boyo told us the root cause of the current fuel subsidy and pricing wahala as the monopoly held by the CBN in the foreign exchange market. However, Deji Bademosi, the anchor of the show which featured Sen Tokunbo Afikuyomi and Nasir El-Rufai seemed to have done a terrible job with the interview as he appeared to dismiss or intentionally ignore Boyo's analysis which infuriated him. Boyo gave a deeper insight than the arguments of the protesters, adding that he had been studying this issue for around 10 years, sort of hitting the nail on the head. Below is an article he authored and which was published in the Punch newspaper.


CBN and fuel subsidy
January 6, 2012 by Henry ‘Jimi Boyo
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The removal of petrol subsidy is one area that has exposed our government’s characteristic indecision and prevarication. Government’s claim to subsidy value of over N600bn per annum is considered outrageous and unsustainable as these expenses subhead alone usually exceed the consolidated capital votes for health, education and transport each year. Meanwhile, Nigerians continue to bemoan the huge infrastructural deficits in these critical areas of social welfare, but still rigidly insist on the maintenance of this oppressive expenditure pattern. Indeed, the Peoples Democratic Party led-government has continued to threaten Nigerians with petroleum subsidy withdrawal for over six years, with renewed calls and affirmation by government officials every month or so. The bombshell was finally thrown on New Year Day when the government announced the removal of the subsidy on petrol.

Nonetheless, subsidy has increased from just over N100bn in year 2000 to its current value of over N600bn, while government continues to make feeble noise on the end of subsidy. The truth, of course, is well recognised by government that removal of subsidy will bring untold hardship to all Nigerians (especially those who do not have easy access to government treasury). But there is the possibility that subsidy could exceed over 70 per cent of our capital budget, if oil prices rise fortuitously to above $100/barrel in the next 12 months. If this happens, any hope that we will make any serious impact on our infrastructural deficit may well be a pipe dream together with the porous Vision 2020 strategy.

I have maintained without equivocation in the last six years that it will be impossible for government to cancel subsidy (i.e. dismantle the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation’s current petrol import monopoly) without first dismantling the monopoly of our Central Bank in the foreign exchange market, where the CBN controls over 80 per cent of all dollars traded in the market while it maintains its constitutional monopoly of all naira issuance concurrently. Needless to say that government’s dilemma on fuel pricing firmly corroborates our observation.

However, we have noted how the adoption of the instruments of dollar certificates (strictly not cash) for disbursement of dollar derived revenue to constitutional beneficiaries would immediately lead to steady decline in local fuel prices such that ‘subsidy’ will become unnecessary while government will be repositioned to actually derive substantial revenue from a sales tax which can be levied without any opposition from labour.

In other words, the adoption of dollar certificates will make available over N600bn for capital and social welfare enhancement in addition to a sales tax revenue of up to N10/litre on the estimated 30 million litres of fuel consumed daily. If the situation can be turned around so simply and beneficently, why is the government pussyfooting on this vital issue? The only obvious reason for government’s lack of enthusiasm to embrace this reality is that its adoption would quickly reduce the space for corruption and self-enrichment, particularly in the CBN, the commercial banks, the executive arms of government and in the bureau de change, who now serve as a collaborative conduit with treasury looters to facilitate money laundering.

A national newspaper’s editorial on June 17, 2010, entitled, “CBN and Petroleum Subsidy”, aptly captures the issues. It is axiomatic that the same CBN which is primarily the promoter and the villain in the scourge of subsidy is also shouting the loudest for its removal. Some analysts observe that it is a case of propaganda and an attempt to distract attention and divert recognition of the apex bank as the engine of our problem. The editorial under reference noted among others that:

“The problem of petroleum subsidy has lingered for several decades and it is therefore regrettable that the CBN failed to look inward for alternative options for resolving the matter, a sine qua non – confirmed by the following cursory historical review. Petroleum products have not always been subsidised nor did the outset of subsidy result from lagging petroleum product prices relative to changes in the international price of crude oil. From its stable price of 8.8 kobo per litre in 1966-78 when there was no subsidy, petrol price rocketed by 73,700 per cent to N65 per litre today.

“Also diesel which retailed at 11 kobo per litre in 1985 zoomed to 99,900 per cent or N110 per litre currently. But crude oil, even at the peak price of US$147 per barrel in 2008, rose by only 880 per cent over the 1978 level of $15 per barrel. Hence nominally, with domestic petrol and diesel prices outpacing crude oil prices by 84 fold and 114-fold respectively during the period, the culprit in the vexed subsidy is the precipitous depreciation of the naira by over 99.6 per cent since 1980 with its attendant high inflation. Doubtless, the monetary and fiscal authorities culpably left their job undone.

“Accordingly, until the CBN begins to correctly infuse federation account dollar proceeds into the system so as to halt the slide of the naira and stem high inflation, removal or reduction in petrol subsidy would leave the masses worse off. On the contrary, when government flushes out (as it should) the oil sector cabal currently cornering substantial part of the subsidy, the lot of the masses would improve. Poised against the masses, Sanusi further sought to justify his position by claiming falsely that government was borrowing to pay petrol subsidy debts. The truth is that proceeds (local or external) from any volume of crude oil allocated for domestic consumption more than cover whatever shortfall that might arise because of the controlled pump price of petrol.

“For now, as the CBN searches for excuses for its unending failures, Nigerians should be spared the distraction and economic pain that the removal of the remaining petroleum subsidy could cause.”

However, how do Nigerians see government’s argument and propaganda for rationalising subsidy removal? To answer this question, we will conclude this week’s piece with excerpts from a rejoinder entitled, “The Arithmetic of Subsidy, the ‘Isiro’ of Deceit” (isiro in Yoruba translates to calculation) by Oyewale Tomori, a Professor of Virology on page 64 edition of the same newspaper on June 24, 2010. It reads as follows:

“The campaign, or rather the war to remove subsidy has been going on now for some time; the losers will be the ordinary abandoned, deserted, discarded, forsaken, neglected and done for citizens of Nigeria… They have employed tactics bordering on deceit, trickery, duplicity, deception and guile.

It is either somebody is trying to fool us, or the secret of how much we really need to develop this country has been inadvertently released to us.”

•Boyo, an economist and entrepreneur, wrote in from Abel Sell Limited, Lagos via lesleba@lesleba.com.


See also https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-844496.32.html#msg9949491
and https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-844496.0.html

I am well aware of that the comparison of similar words is not enough as one could easily be accused of engaging in some sort of pseudo-comparative linguistics. For instance some people claimed that Igbo (Eboe) is derived from the word "Hebrew". Thus, in my blog I have looked at the oral traditions, cultural practices and shared histories.

At the moment I haven’t studied the Hebrew orthography due to certain extenuating circumstances. But given that the occupants of Israel today have been parading themselves as descendants of Jacob for quite a while now, coupled with the assumption (my assumption) that the online resources for learning those pronunciations have been put together by these cuckoo Jews and people who learn from them, what guarantee is there that I can learn therefrom Hebrew in its purity? Wouldn’t that be akin to learning Yoruba from a Khoisan?

As for Keta, I have previously wondered if that name of that town/city is the same as Ketu in Benin Republic and in Lagos.

The Fon of Dahomey migrated from Tado just as the Ewe. Does this mean that the Fon and Ewe were previously one upon migrating from Oyo but then diverged from the Ewe at when both left Tado? I do know that there are similar cultural/religious practices shared by the Fon and Ewe, the most conspicuous of which is the Ifa divination. Perhaps these similar practices were adopted by the Fon from Ewe and Yoruba POWs?

Can you help me with the Ewe equivalent of the Yoruba name Dawodu?

The FG should consider raising funds by banning the consumption of ponmo in Nigeria as food instead of trying to impose this fuel subsidy removal on us. This would boost the leather industry as Nigeria could become the world's leading exporter of finished leather goods of which ponmo is the raw material. Many jobs would be added to the industry and the amount spent on the consumption of ponmoo could be better spent on other areas of our economy. I don't yet know the amount of ponmo that is consumed daily and yearly in Nigeria but it must be quite huge - market research needed. Nigerians should stop stifling the growth of Nigeria as ponmo could become out leather gold.
Ponmo Reinvestment - PORESURE

Many of HIS people today have been deceived into profaning the Sabbath - Yahoshua taught in the Synagogues on the Sabbath rather than the day after.

Revelation 2:9
"I know your works, oppression, and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews, and they are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 3:9
Behold, I give of the synagogue of Satan, of those who say they are Jews, and they are not, but lie. Behold, I will make them to come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-822725.0.html

Isn't ELA the Root and Offspring of Dawodu?

The Alpha and Omega never told us to bow down to images, to make images to adore, and to remember HIM with images. Yet many in this part of the world bow to images from the Amorites (oyinbo) of Genesis 15:16. Amazingly, the Yoruba traditionalists have never dared to make such an image. This hypocrisy on the part of many Christians was evident in their criticisms of FESTAC '77 and the Abuja Cultural Carnivals. We can learn more by studying HIS statutes including the event narrated in Daniel 3. Isn't the insistence on disobedience an act of rebellion?

Extenuating circumstances - I haven't yet gone to iShopA. So it is till further notice.

A ridiculous case of Acquired Anti-Nappy Syndrome?

Study the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43.

I call upon HIS name. Some have argued that Jesus is not a transliteration and perhaps not a translation. Some say that Jesus is actually derived from Iezeus. You can search online for that name. In addition, there is the argument that the most widely used image of Jesus is that of Cesare Borgia.
Christ is derived from the Greek Χριστός (Khristós) meaning "the anointed one". Since the time of the Old Testament, HE was known by Israel as Mashiach (Messiah), meaning "anointed" and not Christ. When the apostles wrote their texts I very much doubt that they would have used Christ instead of Mashiach. Since the Greeks came up with their own translation instead of transliteration, why don't we translate Mashiach into our own languages. Nevertheless, I prefer to say HIS name as Yahoshua

Which of these "pastors" have correctly interpreted the assurance that GOD gave to Abraham as recorded in Genesis 15?

How about the "awful truth" that many today call upon the name Jesus instead of Yahoshua

THE TRANS ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE-BROUGHT INTO SLAVERY IN SHIPS (Deut 28:68)
HIGH PRISON POPULATION (Isaiah 42:22)
A SICK AND DISEASE STRICKEN PEOPLE (Deut 28: 59-61)
SUFFERING FROM MENTAL ILLNESS BECAUSE OF HOW WE ARE TREATED (Deut 28:28,34)
CHILDREN BEING TAKEN AWAY AND GIVEN TO OTHER PEOPLE (Deut 28:32)
EVERY RACIAL GROUP COME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND RUN SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES
(Deut 28:43-44)
NOT BEING ABLE TO STAND AGAINST OUR ENEMIES (Leviticus 26:37-38, Deut 28:25)
OUR SONS STAND ON THE STREET CORNERS GOING BUCK WILD (Isaiah 51:20)
HAVING MANY PLACES OF WORSHIP (Churches) ON EVERY STREET (Ezekiel 16:24-25)
LYNCHING, BEING BURNED ALIVE BY OUR ENEMIES, (Deut 28:22)
TEENAGE GANGS RUNNING THE NEIGHBORHOODS, & NONE EFFECTIVE LEADERS (Isaiah 3:12)

and that many also misinterpret the rapture and do not understand the bride of the Messiah.

Do not act as pawns of the Amorites (oyinbo).

THE TRANS ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE-BROUGHT INTO SLAVERY IN SHIPS (Deut 28:68)
HIGH PRISON POPULATION (Isaiah 42:22)
A SICK AND DISEASE STRICKEN PEOPLE (Deut 28: 59-61)
SUFFERING FROM MENTAL ILLNESS BECAUSE OF HOW WE ARE TREATED (Deut 28:28,34)
CHILDREN BEING TAKEN AWAY AND GIVEN TO OTHER PEOPLE (Deut 28:32)
EVERY RACIAL GROUP COME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND RUN SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES (Deut 28:43-44)
NOT BEING ABLE TO STAND AGAINST OUR ENEMIES (Leviticus 26:37-38, Deut 28:25)
OUR SONS STAND ON THE STREET CORNERS GOING BUCK WILD (Isaiah 51:20)
HAVING MANY PLACES OF WORSHIP (Churches) ON EVERY STREET (Ezekiel 16:24-25)
LYNCHING, BEING BURNED ALIVE BY OUR ENEMIES, (Deut 28:22)
TEENAGE GANGS RUNNING THE NEIGHBORHOODS, & NONE EFFECTIVE LEADERS (Isaiah 3:12)

http://www.hebrewisraelites.org/blkchristians.htm

Let us not deceive others; let us not deceive ourselves; let us not lend ourselves to deception; ASHE!

Fon Yehwe (Spirit/the Power in thunder and lightening)
Ewe Yeve (Spirit)
Gun Yehwe, Yihwe

I guess Gun is Egun.

Taken from page 23 of African Origins of the Word God.

What of big snakes?