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Patchesagain: The Finns just ordered another 100 Leo2's

And the Polish are probably going to splerg on Leo2a7's buy if their Defense Review gets the budget it asks for ($43 billion in the next decade)

Leo2a7 is probably the best tank that any nation could ever hope to get their hands on, and it is designed with COIN applications in mind

hopefully we still get the leo2 before to many buyers increase the price.

Patchesagain: what he fails to realize is that 1 Rooivalk can do as much (or more) damage than 2 Hinds

case in point is the DRC where hinds flown by pilots from Ukraine where unable to match the rooivalks from SA. Of cours I spoke to one guy who was in the DRC that said the success was due to 3 things

Good chopper
good pilots
good FAC

agaugust: The cocktail buying I know is of South Africa with ONE SINGLE MISSILE ONLY for each Gripen jet

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? we have no air threats AAMs are a low on the list of needs. Any case we building our own so we did not want to waist money. We get a few hundred A darters.

Henry120: You perfectly described south-africa. After all, you only got 10 paltry half-french helicopters for your limousine airforce.

When Nigeria buys, you know, we buy.

Nigeria recently ordered 40 attack and transport helicopters.


"DAILY POST
25 July, 2014

In a determined effort to eliminate terrorism by routing insurgents from their hideouts in parts of the North East and North West once and for all, the Federal Government has placed purchase orders for 40 helicopters for attack and transportation from the United States and Russia, DailyPost can report.

Reliable security sources confided in PRNigeria that some of the helicopters will arrive the country as early as next month, while the remaining will be received certainly before the end of the year to boost the Nigerian Airforce."

We only need about 24 or 2 squdrons, we have half our needs.

GreenandGold: Cocktail buying as usual, 20 of this, 11 of that then 9 of something else..

The Nigerian Army doesn't need tanks for it current threat, but anyway whom am I telling? No one in Nigeria seems to listen.

Wrong, Canada was about to get rid of the LEO1s because they where only doing coin work. Astan showed them tanks are exalent for coin work. Now the went from scraping tanks to buying LEO2s. Tanks are good at killing people to.

agaugust: Nope, we received a mixed squadron of Su-30 Flankers and JF-17 Thunder jet about 20 days ago, remember this photo from iayear 2012 ?

Nigeria is NOT rushing, many of these weapons you see are 2012 to 2013 orders arriving in 2014.

Nigeria now has a more modern army and air force than South Africa....Your 1990s SANDF equipment are old.

Go jump into river Zambezi with a 50 kg bag on cement hanging on your neck if you don't like how Nigeria is rising with giant steps

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Show proof that that is what you getting. It said you getting new jets does not say what. And it says getting not has. The exact words where they where approved.

Really we not modern yet we have a 4.5gen fighter, Data link, subs, EW, should I go on o how about a tank with a hunter killer mode.

Henry120: These are old orders. We've also been receiving these T-84 OPLOT -M MBT's from ukraine for a while now. We just haven't mentioned it because we wanted to have concrete proof with it.


Now run along, go hit your head on the wall.

show the proof, just because thre is a pic of ONE tank that looks like some tank does not mean it is in servers. You Nigerians are for ever claiming you bought this and that yet when we see what your solders use in battle, we see none of it. You claimed T72s with zero proof and now you claiming to buy tanks from Ukraine a country in a full blown civil war as enough spare new production tanks to sell? Once again I need proof.

I love how in Nigeria they see one pic of something that looks like soothing and next second they buying it.

agaugust: .
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Enter The T-84 Oplot....Nigeria Buys New World Class Main Battle Tank !

Night-Combat Equipment Loaded

125mm High Calibre K.iller Main Gun !

New MBT Armour Cannot Be Penetrated By Anti-Tank Missiles Like Mokopa & Ingwe !

3 Different Types Of Advanced Armour Mixed Together

Nigeria's New Tank Can Fire Anti-Tank Guided Missiles !

All South African Army Equipment Will Be Destroyed.

Nigerian Tank Has Anti-Missile Jamming Defences To Stop Enemy Missiles !

Best Tank In Africa For Best Army In Africa....Nigeria.

Nigeria Has A More Modern Military Than South Africa

Time To Invade Pretoria Will Come In 12 Months[/size]

[img]http://www.morozov.com.ua/images/t84-nl.jpg[/img]

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It only good because Nigeria is buying it, typcal agbuy post.

Any case the Ukraine is at war and not the best place to buy weapons from.

agaugust: I need a reliable source of how many MGL-AGL-ANTI MATERIAL weapons in total numbers with SANDF, then DefenceWed is NOT a reliable source, he said Nigeria has almost 100 units of BTR-3U IFV.

If you bring DefenceWeb, then EVERYTHING on Beegeagle too becomes 100% correct, get it ?


#ShowUs Proof OfHowMany AGL-MGL-ANTI-MATERIAL WeaponsInSANDF

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Why? are the pics of countless mgls not enough?

No it does not. It disqustion between the difrent verstions.

Beegal a blog, defencweb news orginistion.

agaugust: Nope, you are hiding information, SANDF and Rangers are ALL being k.illed in the Rhino poaching war ! Not only animals, South African military men and paramilitary men are dying, Rhino Paochers are 'sh.ooting' down South African air force helicopters k.illing SAAF Pilots, men and officers !

OMG where are your 'famous Gripen Jets with targeting pods and laser guided bombs ?

Where are your Rooivalk helicopters with air to surface missiles ?

Oh My God ! South Africa in invaded by mere hunters from Mozambique and your military cannot stop them !

American commandos and American drones imported to save the 'Strongest Military In SADC Region' . LOL

Now chew on this AIDS carriers of ANC Kingdom :


[size=14pt] Over 100 South African Military And Para-Military K.illed In Rhino War

....One Of Many Reasons American Soldiers Arrive To Defend South Africa [/size]

"There’s a war going on in southern Africa. And though it may not have the human body count of, say, Sudan, this battle is just as bloody. In 2012, rhino poaching in South Africa left more than 650 rhinos illegally slaughtered– approximately one every 16 hours– and more than 100 humans died in the fight to protect them."

http://greenglobaltravel.com/2013/03/18/rhino-poaching-in-south-africa-rhino-wars/


PHOTO : AMERICAN COMMANDOS IN SOUTH AFRICA TO SAVE BOTH RHINOS AND SANDF SOLDIERS FROM BUSH MERE HUNTERS !


https://i2.cdn.turner.com/dr/hln/www/release/sites/default/files/imagecache/gallery_780x583/2013/03/07/31630_076.jpg

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My Goodness I can smell the shiit you just typed through the screen.

agaugust: [size=14pt]#ShowUs Proof OfHowMany AGL-MGL-ANTI-MATERIAL WeaponsInSANDF[/size]

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MGL is secstion level. 27 secstions mean 27 MGLs per battlion in adstion there are 27 pat mortas though they controledd by the platoon comanda. The battlion has 4 AGLs.

The NTW20 is used only by SF. There is not even a accurent figuer on how many operators there are.

For the AGL and pat morta

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-6553/

The MGL is based on what I know. Though from pics you can see it is the case. All so the rifleman may carry a rifel grenade.

agaugust: .

[size=16pt]Confession :

South African Navy Frigates Patrol Daily But Cannot Catch Any Pirate[/size]


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Zero Force Projection.

Dullest Navy In Africa !

Valour Frigates Always Dribbled and Beaten By Common Sea Pirates.

Piracy Has Been Taking Place In Southern Africa But Always Escape Unless Nigeria Is Called To Rescue

Reason Why Angola Called In Nigerian Navy....Dumps SADC Defence Partner South Africa !

Titus Sardine Fish Submarine Navy Becomes A Useless Waste Of SANDF Bank Loans

Blue Water SAN Fails At Home !

Confession :

"South Africa’s Navy is fighting pirates!

Yes. Believe it or not, the SA Navy and Special Forces have been deployed to the Mozambican Channel for several years now, in a deliberate operation aimed at capturing or deterring pirate attacks originating from Somali coast. Although they have not yet caught a single pirate (instances of pirate activity are low), there have been several occasions where the Navy has chased or inspected suspicious vessels."

http://www.africandefence.net/five-things-you-never-knew-about-the-south-african-military/
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Since patrols started only one pirat enterd the AO and he was all ready being chased. There have been no reportad acts of piracy in the AO.

The boat that pirats attacked in angola where attacked by nigerian pirats who then sailed back to nigeria. Why would SA be asked to help since when they goy caught they where in NN AO

Henry120: Is this the one malema flies in?........... LOL ..... Limousine boys.

Remember Foooooorty!!!!!!


This doesn't include the incoming Helos for the Navy.

U.S soldiers carry 7 on them. Go laugh.
Polish forces carry 4, and they got a 600+ billion dollar economy.

There is always replenishement ammo in the APC's.

Malema does not fly SAAF.

US solders carry as many as needed by the mission and have more in there APC,s, IFV extra. SA mech infantry all so carry 7 mags. Our light infantry carry 13 mags. US all so have access to far more combat suport. I will laugh at the polish if what you say is true.

You mean there is more ammo in your toyat hilux that your infantry can never move far from limting your tatical mobliety.

Henry120: LMAO

Not only is the R-4 a copy of the AK-47, the AKM pictured with the nigerians is a superior assault rifle to the R-4(copy).

When israle selected the galil they had a test where the galil out perfomand the AK by a masive margin. Here is why the R4 beats AK

R4 has proper rear sights where that of the ak are more a middle sights

Better sight desghin. Over all the r4 sights are better

Folding stock

Lighter

Higher mag count

Akm is still a ak47. Only a few modifcastions

agaugust: Bwahahaha

They are for real ! They will also show the failed SANDF on TV, American special forces have taken over Kruger park from your famous South African special forces 'Bush War Master'.....right inside your own homeland bush

Your SANDF shame will be televised as a TV show, so that your ranking can be adjusted worldwide, then UN and AU will be glad they never allowed the cowardly South African army to lead any International military operations


Real American commandos for real war to save South Africa !



"Battleground: Rhino Wars" -

These men are tough. How else would you describe four highly trained, combat-seasoned Special Ops veterans risking life and limb to help stop the illegal poaching of African rhinos? These remarkable men are using their experience fighting for America to fight an entirely new battle: A battle against extinction.

Endangered, hunted, slaughtered

Each year, hundreds of rhinos are killed in the Greater Kruger area of South Africa. These beautiful animals are slaughtered by poachers who have one goal in mind: The animal's horn. As if the killings weren't enough, local authorities and park rangers are in danger too -- more than 100 park rangers have been killed by poachers, and the risk rises every day.

When Craig Sawyer, a former Navy SEAL and military consultant, was chosen by one of South Africa's anti-poaching units to put together a team to help stop these criminals, he knew it would take a special kind of man. "I found a crew of different guys I have known throughout my career," he says. "Guys with combat experience and real-world experience." The Special Ops experience was key. The way Sawyer sees it, U.S. Military Special Ops teams are an almost brutally simple solution for complex problems. "If you really look at it, Special Ops is a problem-solving service under adverse conditions, so with that background, we're particularly suited to go to a foreign land, find out the nature of the problem, find a solution and apply the fix."

http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2013/03/07/rhino-wars-animal-planet-navy-seals-green-berets

[size=14pt]#AmericanCommandoes ToSave SANDF [/size]

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Highly trained US speciol forces solders who achvied what, how many poachers did they even see never mind kill or captuer.

No to menstion it is a privat game park where they working at as part of a larger APU that is a privat company.

There is somthing like 400 000 privat secuirty gaurds in SA

agaugust: Nope...

Nigeria got 100% technology transfer to build the stealth warship in Port Harcourt inside a Nigerian owned shipyard with Nigerian engineers.

If our F91 and F91 ships are not stealth, then ALL South African valour frigates are NOT stealth.

Gun boat? It carries anti-submarine Z-9 Harbin helicopter.

The 2013 radar on F91 is ten times more modern than the obsolete 1999 radar on Valour figates

South Africa has NEVER built any stealth warship.

SAS Drakensberg is an old technology rustbucket.

South Africa is NOT a world leader in weapons manufacturing, you CANNOT build frigates, transport aircraft, submarines, jet fighters, tanks, ICBM, nuclear missiles, even ordinary rocket pods, etc.

Nigeria builds all the 25 equipment and weapons I posted last week, no need to repeat.

[img]http://beegeagle.files./2013/07/dsc05325.jpg[/img]
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See all the clutter on the surface of your OPVs, not true stealth's ships

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agaugust: .
[size=13pt]Ebola Virus marches toward Southern Region Of Africa...

Arrives Congo DRC...Destined for Soweto

Meanwhile...

Nigeria finally defeats Ebola, Nigeria's world class health care strategy gave victory ![/size]

http://www.punchng.com/news/nigeria-has-overcome-evd-only-case-stable-minister/

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/25/ebola-outbreak-congo-confirms-disease-cases

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difrent strain all ready contained by the DRC. Note the strain of ebola going around comes from the DRC.

agaugust: There are many defense companies in Nigeria including very huge world class ultra-modern shipyards building hundreds of armoured boats, patrol boats and warships.

South Africa's defense industry is a toddler until you build a modern stealth warship like Nigeria !
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What moern stealth boat did Nigeria build? you build a bloody catamaran and now call it stealth? Nigerias defence industry is a tiny spec compared to SA

agaugust: Israel is not a propaganda nation like South Africa, we trust Israel, nobody dares trust South Africa....

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Lol israle likes to show of, I mean they(the IDF) post videos of there operations and so many documentaries have gone there.

agaugust: Dude, go read war history, 99.99% of soldiers k.illed, equipment and buildings destroyed in this world, were destroyed by UNGUIDED WEAPONS....go fvck your confused guided missiles and whatever!

Mugu Maga Mumu.

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Bombs, shells, built extrs extra are unguided

[quote author=agaugust][/quote]rooivalk uses rocket pods, if the copy of a well used russian rocket pod is all they come up with then that is sad.

refering here to fixed wing light attack aircraft/trainers remember. helcopters can move much slower and can aim the rocket pods with more accuracy than a jet on a strafing run.

so why did nato fixed wing use bombs in iraq, eastern europe, afghanstan, iraq again and libay. why did south africa go from operating mutpil diffrent types of pods for the same aircraft to non. because bombs are better. and rockets can be stoped. just shoot down the attacker who has to get close to use them effectivly.

chaff vs a laser or gps guided weapon? any case unguied bombs can not be stoped


did you know russian pilots in afghanstan saw there rockets (the orginal of what you useing) as being highly inacuret and usefull to tickel the enemy. and where do you get 6km from. at max you can get 4km but that is pushing it not to menstion that at max range you dont aim for a target but at a map grid

agaugust: PHOTO 1 : Original made in Finland

PHOTO 2 : Copy copied in South Africa

No, those photos were evident enough to make South African copy copy job pathetic

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Is that not a wolverien the polish verstion of the AMV?

agaugust: Unguided weapons are more dangerous than guided weapons because the unguided cannot be jammed, all guided missiles can be confused with counter measures.

Rocket pods are one of the most dangerous tactical weapons today, faster than missiles, cannot be stopped by anything !

#Show Us SouthAfrican Made RocketPods Like Nigeria HasDone

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Unguided are less accuret and a rocket pod requiers you to see the target thuse you are seen and can be shot at.

If rocket pods are so bad ass why have so many countries not botherd to install them on there new fighters.


All the pods made during the border war and the current pod for the rooivalk are made in SA

denisfidha: what about SA-3 and SA-6, they also have those from soviet I think

New jets would run circels around them. But this is africa and very few have any thing above 3.5 gen. Your new SAMs are good enough probaly one of the best in sub sharan africa. But you A100 MRLS are world class not best in africa but one of the best in the world.

agaugust: No, and Alpha jet air to ground rocket pod made in Nigeria is NOT a simple army ground to ground free fall rocket.

NAF made rocket pods are technically more advanced, first we got them computer coded for the jet avionics compatibly so that they can work on a French made modernized/upgraded Alpha Jet, then they are computer software programmed with about 24 rockets loaded on one single pod and able to fire in auto-selected single shot mode or multiple salvo mode and must be able to h.it precice target controlled by pilots electro-optical site.

Now that is NOT the dummy fun time fireworks rockets that civilians build to toy around with. Common sense is not common in South Africa where you say a Crocodile is equal to a Lizard.

#Show Us NAF Type Of RocketPods Made By Any Other Country In Africa

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[img]http://beegeagle.files./2013/07/naf-rocketpods1.jpg?w=640[/img]

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lets see zeor gudiance at all and simple warhead, so yes it is simple and SA being building them far longer than you

agaugust:

[size=13pt]South Africa Imports American Drones To Fight Rhino Poachers [/size]

None of those several fancy South African drones in your photo is in service with SANDF.

The only drone in South African army is the ugly Vulture drone.

South Africa is even importing American drones to fight war on poachers...Soweto is NOT any drone giant, your level is NOT better than Nigeria. Nigeria has made 3 different drones, Amebo, Gulma, Icheokwu.

South Africa has NO drone in the special class of Nigerian Icheoku drone. FACT !

"Although other anti-poaching initiatives in South Africa are also using unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) drones to try and save the rhino from extinction, they are using less manoeuvrable planes, not helicopters.

"We bought all this hi-tech equipment to try and combat rhino poaching before they are all gone," Anton explained.

"It is a big investment, but is also well worth it - we want to use drone technology to position ourselves at the forefront of the fight against rhino poaching."

Kieser said his family was particularly moved by the ruthless poaching of three rhino at nearby Kariega Game Reserve a year ago.

One rhino, Thandi, survived despite having her horn hacked off.

He said fitting rhino with satellite tracking devices would make it easier to work out where they were in a game park - and protect them from poachers.

For the past two weeks, US-based drone expert David Dilling has been on the Sunshine Coast teaching the Kiesers how to operate the sophisticated equipment during day and night flights.

The deal to purchase the drones had to be approved by the US defence department - who also did background checks - to prevent them being used for terrorist activities.

The drones are similar to those used by US border patrols and police departments."

http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2013/05/21/chopper-drones-taking-aim-at-rhino-poachers

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Not used by the sandf. And the seeker is in use in the kruger park and provids intel to the SANDF.

denisfidha: Tanzania, there pics are hard to come by. some are S-to-S but this gives you the idea. they might not be the best when it comes to playing offence but they can definitely defend their homeland

Those MRLS there are hard core. I mean you could do some real damge with them.

The SPAAM are good but not world ending. But enough for enough for the region.

agaugust: You assembled British made Hawk jets from CKD spare parts shipped to you imported from Britain.

AHRLAC is NOT yet operational like NAF Gulma drone as we speak.

You have nothing !
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Gulma is not operastional. Don't lie.

agaugust: USA results in Afghanistan is garbage, Iraqi army they trained cannot hold it's own. Algeria lost 150,000 civilians in 11 years at home to Islamic terrorists.

Russian army failed against Mujahedeen in Afghanistan and withdrew.

Israeli army is the best in the world based on records of success, but they just failed in Gaza last month after k.illing 1,000 innocent women, boys, girls, and new born babies.

Who has fought Islamic insurgency better than Nigeria? Nobody on earth !

No one couquers Astan, expect the mongol.

How did israle fail. That caused a masive reducstion in attacks from the gaza strip. You are like your army. Out dated. Victory is not about holding ground or kill death rastio it is about achieving objectives. How do you think veitnam can say with out a doubt they won the veitnam war even though there losses where higher andlost 90% of there battels.


And don't bring Angola in to this. SA's goal was to stop the spread of comunism. Nambia and angola are democratic captilst countries and cuba is gone.