₦airaland Forum

since when is nano silver experimental it has been around and in use for ages and why is it only Nigerian experts. Nigeria as zero experts on ebloa, the only lab in Africa that can do proper ebola research is in south Africa.

agaugust: You need a source to prove that 1,355 AMX 30 tanks of France are not in storage, that they were thrown to garbage dump.

Sources say not frontline service, not that they are useless and thrown out of amoury into the garbage dump.

South Africa has only 2 G-6 artilley in service according do defenceweb, means the remaining 41 units are dumped into garbage bin?

You think at all?

no I need proof they in storage, storage is not cheap by the way.

Nope the reaming are stated as being in storage AKA reserve, there is no mention of the French AMX30s being in storage.

Helghast: Oh shweet dude I'll check that out, I'm very jealous of the Sf because they get to pick any rifle the want, unless its a deep penetration mission where they have to use modern rifles that use the type of ammunition that's is very common to that place :[

for deep penetration they would use a akm, or the water proofed AKM and Russian GPMGs. even western SF do this. The AK makes a unique sound so using it can confuse the enemy.

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/images/stories/LAND/LAND_new/SA_Army_jungle_warfare_Pt_St_Johns_400x300_Guy_Martin.JPG

mortar combat

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=35883:south-africa-has-trained-more-than-7-000-drc-soldiers&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105

In just over 10 years of military training assistance to the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), the South African Army has improved the skill levels of more than 7 000 members of FARDC (Forces Armees de la Republique Democratique du Congo).

The most recent round of training in March, under current Mission Thebe commander Colonel Arthur Sipho Nziweni, saw DRC instructors improve their skills in five different aspects of training: individual; the use and care of platoon weapons; artillery; air defence; and infantry training, the backbone of ground forces all over the world.

Training assistance between the two countries was provided for in a DRC/SA Defence Co-operation Agreement signed in June 2004 followed by a memorandum of understanding on practical assistance later in the same year. It was not until 2006 that South African officers and instructors were despatched to the DRC for the first round of training. The scope of the first deployment covered basic military training (BMT) as well as training in the specialist musterings of infantry, artillery and air defence alongside elements of service support. This was followed by a similar course four years later.

“All training to date has ended with an integrated exercise where soldiers have been able to put their newly acquired skills into practice,” said Colonel JL Tsalupondo, SSO Operations Headquarters at 46 SA Brigade.

The size of the SANDF contingent deployed on Mission Thebe is determined by the actual training that needs to be done and other factors on the ground, he said.


“Currently only headquarters staff is in the mission area ahead of the next round of training. Once the size of the next training intake is known decisions will be taken on how many South African instructors and in what specific musterings will be deployed,” he said.

Nziweni is the fourth mission commander for Thebe. The first was Colonel Piet Serenko followed by colonels Thulani Zungu and Sidney Mdluwa.

Helghast: oh my bad, but the site I got it from said we use that as an Infantry sniper rifle, and we use an Upgraded R1 as a Designated Marksman Rifle.

both R4 and R1 have DM versions the SF all so have G3 DM and other stuff (M16a2 with M203)

MikeZA: Ooh yeah? NATO main battle tanks use 120mm gun. Name operational NATO main battle tank that uses a 105 gun.

leo1 is still used, and Turky and Greece still have some old ass tanks in serves.

agaugust: America has 2,385 M1 Abrams tanks in storage with 105mm guns, that is missing on your list...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_United_States_Army#Vehicles

France has 1,355 AMX 30 tanks with 105mm gun in storage, that too is missing on your list.

You can show us source that all the thousands of 105mm tanks in NATO armory have vanished into thin air one cold windy morning!

Let Russia attack NATO today with full tank force and you will see NATO 105mm tanks come out of storage.

Those are called reserve forces. Are you in the Navy or you are a fake? LOL !
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that because they in storage, not reserve or stragic reserve or any thing like that, they set in the desert and get zero love. It would take a lot of cash to bring them up to operational level.

AMX30s not in use with France, not to mention it is impobil to say how many AMX 30s are even in France since they sold a lot of them and spare parts need to come from some where.

reserve forces maintain there gear, they get brough out of storage every now and then to be used, they not just abandoned some where. Using you logic sa has over 1500 Eland armoured cars, a bunch of impales, mirage, cheetahs, allouets, buffel MPVs extra extra.

agaugust: Mumu

The 2,385 M1 Abrams tank reserved in American storage that you admitted to exist, proves to you NATO keeps all its larger force of 105mm gun tanks in storage.

You think France's 1,355 AMX-30 tanks vanished into thin air? They are in storage.

Let Russia attack France today and see if France will not open storage and bring out from its largest force of 1,355 AMX tanks. You may be the only fool that will go to big war with only 400 tanks of 120mm when your enemy has 2,000 T-72 tanks.

Mumu, you don't know how military weapons reserve forces work
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America has m60 in storage, they not in reserve but in a tank boneyard. France is not the USA the USA has massive bonyards with ships, tanks, jets, extra just sitting there. Any French tank in a boneyard would not start, I doubt the US ones would start. They not looked after and basically just sit there. Europe does not have the location for a good boneyard.

well 3 is all they need, I all most said they have none since the 3 are used only for training so they like our 8 T55s(or how ever many we have these days)

agaugust: You said France has 400 tanks all 120mm guns, but France also has 1,355 AMX 30 tanks with 105mm guns !

All South Africans are fools

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-30

The larger number of tanks in all 28 NATO countries have 105mm guns....all @Patches claims and data are totally wrong.

That's why you remain our Nairaland resident Dumbo Domingo

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France does not use it any more, so all Nigerians are fools.

belguim 50 leo 1s 105mm, to be phased out of severs so in fact it is zero
Denmark 57 leo 2 120mm
Canada 135 leo 2 120mm
Italy 197 Ariete 120mm
Luxembourg no tanks it's army is like 900 men.
Norway 53 leo2
US
USMC 403 M1A1 120mm
army 4,393 M1A1, 586 M1A2, 588 M1A2 SEP all 120mm
franc 406 Leclerc 120mm
UK 407 chanlgers 120mm
Portugal 37 leo 2 120mm 96 m60s 105mm
Netherlands no tanks
Poland 189 leo2 120mm, 132 twardy 125mm 350(plus minus) T72s 125mm
hungry 155 t72 125mm
Czech Republic 123 t72s 125mm
Spain 327 leo2s 120mm
Germany 125 le02 120mm (they sold a lot of them post cold war)
turkey 354 leo2 120mm 397 leo 1 105mm, 4 (1000 planed) Altay 120mm, 1377 m48s(modified) 105mm, 1466 m60 105mm, 170 sabra 120mm.
Greece 353 leo 2 120mm, 501 leo 1 105mm, 390 m48(modified) 105mm
Croatian 76 M84 125mm
Albanian no tanks
Slovenian 54 M84 125, 30 T55 100mm
Slovak 30T72s 125mm
Romanian 895 t55(different versions some heavily modified) 100mm
Lithuanian no tanks
Latvia 3(yes 3) t55
Estonia no tanks
Bulgaria 200+ t72s 125mm
Iceland no army never mind tanks.

many ex warsaw pact nastion still have Russian tanks, so they screw the numbers, even so the 120s out number the 105s

Henry120: These south-africans do not understand what the word "CIVIL" is. The term is alien to them, led by mikeza, patches869, andrewza, and a couple others not worth mentioning.

So we dish it to them, pound to pound. Bumber to bumper.

Go to the start of this thread and you will see I was very civil. I am only being a asss here because aguby likes to spread lies.

No 105mm armed M1 are in US serves.

Ataime16: Only God will bring US to thier knees,a black man is ruling them and they have d gutts to insult blacks.

How is this a insult. You useing a american made product for somthing it was not ment for.

Did I say the SADF did not fight in flat brush land? No. The SADF fough in a wide range of terrians and our AFV performed well.


The south african goverment is serrous about conservastion. That is why we conducting anti poaching patrols, relocating rhinos, puting pressuer on veitnam and china, conducting crimnal invisgastions and trying to regulate the trade.


Ok aguby what is the primary tank of NATO. The LEO2, M1A2, Chalnger, lecler. The bulk of NATOs tank force is those 4 tanks.

Henry120: The South-African government conceded to the terrorists they were fighting, and gave up the power, they fought the british so hard to keep.

What? They only repealed the apartied law. In fact the SADF rarly fought the ANC.

In angola SA withdrew only after agreement in witch cuba would withdraw.

Henry120: Keep telling yourselves this lie, probably in the year 4000, we might begin to accept this ludacris story.

Only nigerians doubt it. Funny hey.

agaugust: [size=13pt]Dude, all you know about military stuff is just what you google today. I look at the far past, near history or records and today, plus the future.

I did not say 105mm guns are NATO standard for tanks, I said they are mostly 105mm guns existing.

I said it and I posted source to prove it, MOST NATO tanks from cold war era till today ever built, have 105mm guns, and the source said it is because 105mm gun was universal in the whole western world in cold war.

Those guns are not thrown away, they are in reserve and still on thousands of NATO reserve tanks. You think NATO is just Britain , France , Germany? LOL, there are 28 countries in NATO !

Even the German Leopard tank has versions built with the 105mm gun, what NATO does is to allow 'SWAP' of 120mm guns on their tanks if they want it anytime.

"The Leopard 2 tank thus initially used perforated armour, and not Chobham armour as is sometimes claimed. PT-14 used the 120 mm Rheinmetall gun (as eventually did the U.S. M1 Abrams). After this, two new prototype hulls and three turrets were ordered, one (PT-20) mounting the original L7A3 105 mm gun and a Hughes fire control system, a second (PT-19) with the same fire control system but able to "swap out" the gun for the 120 mm Rheinmetall design."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_2

The largest number of tanks existing in frontline service or storage reserves in 28 countries of NATO have 105mm guns

You remain Patrick, our resident Dumbo Domingo [/size]

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Last brit tank with a 105 was centurion. All no longer in use

Last yank tank with 105 was the orginal M1. All upgraded to 120

German long since got 120s with the Leo2.

In fact the west are putting there 120mm tanks in reserv they have so many.

Henry120: He's a south-african like you ode!!!

O never knew.

and the big fights took place in the south, south east. That is forest and brush land.

agaugust: Seleka rebels touched your beautiful hollywood army and slaughtered 15 to 50 of them, wetin you do? Nothing ? You could not go back there

15 died and slaughtered means they just died, they killed up to 1000 rebels

carefreewannabe: Who made Nigeria hell on earth?

Nigerians?

giant pile of cra*p

all4naija: Yes,I am. It is Soweto! Here you have the refreshing(ironically)image of the place. Don't forget to look at the road closely and see that it is not tarred.

and, lagos they do not even have a roads

[img]http://lexyes686.files./2012/03/lagos.jpg[/img]

you guys have mega slums

http://lexyes686./graceland/

Soweto is a township not a slum

Billyonaire: Does it matter if Nano-Silver is pesticide, fungicide or insecticide ? What matters is its efficacy, so if a pesticide becomes anti-ebola it should be welcomed by the world instead of being condemned, or is there something the Americans are not telling us ?

But it is not.

barcanista: I'm oFfering you naija citizenship by marriage

dont you mean you want botswana citzenship

anonimi: Many thanks for your response and the credible link provided also.

Permit me, however, to advise you improve your written English language skills.
Cheers.

Dyslexa

anonimi: Where did you get this from
Some SCIENTIFIC laboratory with verifiable reputation
Abi na the same old salt water "magic"

Been done before by the WHO in the drc for ebola. But it was done to late to be of any effect. The invected where all ready recovering. Currently the WHO is concidring it as a oppstion. Though due to the very natuer of it animail trail are hard thing to pull of. Since you need the blood of the cured.

http://news.sciencemag.org/africa/2014/08/who-ponders-treating-ebola-infected-people-blood-survivors

anonimi: I hope those Nigerians blasting our BENEFACTORS have an alternative proven drug to fight the Ebola virus
Oh yea I get it............ we have prayer warriors no worries, right

Injecting the invected with the blood of those who have been cured is a opstion. Though you need the right blood can clean blood.

barcanista: The USA should learn to keep quiet sometimes. The ZMAPP was untested b4 it was used. They dnt want to gv us dia drugs n de dnt want to allow us test ours. Make dem rest jooor!!!!
As for me na bitter kola sure pass

it was test just not on people

danikik7: This a challenge to all African Scientists in particular and Africans in general. How long shall we remain as tutelager.EBOLA was discovered dacades ago how come by now Africa has not been able through collaboration developed a trial vaccine. Must we always run to China , Europe or USA ? Is it not time we raise up and put our woes to shame. There will never be emancipation in african until we Africans take the bull by the horn in all ramifications. It is what we do to promote our selves collectively thatwill accord us the respect we desire internationally. This was China came to where they are today. We can achieve more than that IF we believe

Well SA did get a drug to human trail phase. But it was not a orginal ebola drug but for a simlar viruse. It was given to one person who stil died though.