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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYy8BHYcEqg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DJhNM0sPY4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fULNuWuqWg

agaugust: NAF ATR-42 has FLIR but never seen. You think you know everything about aircraft? No.

[img]http://www.ecoreport.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/telerilevamentoaereo01.jpg[/img]

The flir is very visible in that pic

agaugust: Radar dome proves its Beechcraft 350ER ISTAR

Now you show me FLIR on the officially confirmed 350ER below...

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Hawker-Beechcraft-350ER/1278489/L/

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maybe it does not have one and it is a purely Radar platform. Though you can see that pod looks different than yours or it was not fitted. either way it greatly reduces the use fullness in looking for pirates.

but I am not you, credit where credit is due starboard side close to the landing gear

[img]http://3.bp..com/-jV8HqT8KiSM/T0YWGYntBEI/AAAAAAAAMUg/IADBoDE2-G4/s400/ATR-42MP%252BAlessandro%2BBuffa.jpg[/img]

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agaugust: It's got a radar pod, that is the the standard for 350ER. FLIR could be detached or attached at will, or placed at another position.

I have never seen FLIR on ATR-42 Surveyor, and it has. Location nobody knows.

Radar dome proves its Beechcraft 350ER ISTAR

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No yours have a cargopod


maybe yours are not there?

[img]http://digilander.libero.it/en_mezzi_militari/html/aerei/alenia-atr42-01.jpg[/img]
[img]http://digilander.libero.it/en_mezzi_militari/html/aerei/alenia-atr42-01.jpg[/img]

agaugust: I told you that is Dubai 2011 air show, NOT an operational Beechcraft.

Now here are three different countries 350ER in operation with NO FLIR camera at the back...the third photo is Nigerian

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Hawker-Beechcraft-350ER/1278489/L/

https://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/9/8/4/1278489.jpg

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And who says it has a FLIR camera. Show me the FLIR

agaugust: Bwahaha navy cook !

See what your potato frying brain wrote above...FLIR forward looking infra red camera is at the back of radar pod

Onion fryer, how does a camera looking forward get fixed behind a much bigger object...a big radar pod, the camera will be looking at the pod and nothing else, it's forward looking view will be permanently blocked by the huge pod...Failure of South African education displayed

Andrewza....Fraudrewza.....see why nobody believes South African version of Seleka battle of Bangui...fraud upon fraud
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https://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/media/dubai11/emptys/89406/hawker-beechcraft-king-air-350er-dubai-2011.jpg
FLIR camera at the back

nice, and they took a pic of the bridge with there systems on?

agaugust: In year 2080

2020 though like with the ISRT we may purches a limited batch of BVRs before hand. It will need to have similar handling charistics to what ever we building to be use full though since it will be used mainly has a raining tool

agaugust: LMAO !!

The manufacturer's Radar Pod looks exactly like that of Nigeria....it's fun making you sit down on pointed needles

NAF Beechcraft 350ER episode has turned into a major d.isaster for you on this forum. LOL !

Now look again....liar old man

#Show Us Proof Someone Fixed Cargo Pod For NAF
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show proof it is recon, with all the 350ERs the FLIR camera is clearly visible at the back of the radar pod.

agaugust: Show us proof that Nigerian pod is for cargo, and show us proof that they fitted cargo pod...oya nah lets go, we dey wait

To cover up one lie, a human being needs to tell another lie...grows into a chronic serial liar....South Africa's national trademark

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you the one who keeps posting Nigerian Beechcraft with looks like a cargo pod.

agaugust: SAMIL trucks ! Wow ! Ancient vehicles of ancient times, even THIZA does not consider them fit enough to post here. Sure SANDF does not have money to keep 12,000 in good condition of reserve, hell, you only operate 2 G-6 Rhinos because of lack of funds. I don't even believe you have any 12,000 at all.

Mobilized 350,000 ? Lol, anybody can claim any number as mobilized, those guys sit at home fvcking their wives !

SADF deployed only 4,000 men into battle in Bush War

You only spend money and do logistics supply for fighting men, and the war was so far away from homeland, thousands of kilometers such that the mobilized men at home do not need to be at alert or in any deployment at all.

Hell, Nigeria deployed 15,000 soldiers with full armour, artillery, jet fighters, transport planes, warships, landing ship, 2,000 km away from home for 10 years.

Now that is a war experienced military, not your photomania armed forces that hardly go anywhere in full force.
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Samil trucks are great. Nothing real comes close to them in Africa in terms of off road logistics. 2 G6s are all that is needed for crew training (the rest of the G6s belong to reserve units in any case. Where the SAMIL is still the primary logistics truck of the SANDF. So well I do not think we have 12000 in serves(considering that was the number used when we where at or prime and at war) we still have thousands of them.

150 000 where mobilized in the late 1980s along the Angolan border. And citizen forces used to conduct regular training exercises.

agaugust: NATO Gripens have BRV missiles with 100km range, South African Gripens carry missiles with poor 20km range

NATO Gripens have full loads of missiles and extra surplus available in armoury. South African Gripens share only on single missile each, world record of missile shortage

SAAF-SANDF is faaaaaarrrrrrr below NATO standard

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yet in the gripen exercise in Sweden SAAF gripen had a great kill loss ratio. BVR does not mean victory.

agaugust: Bwahahaha

I white-washed you from head to toe !

Prove your cliam, manufacturer says NO cargo pods options allowed for any Beechcraft 350ER, so you fixed cargo pods for Nigeria? Prove it !

Old man liar Andrewza the Fraudrewza, Prove it !

You lose Soweto man, you lose totally

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never though that they a second party cargo pod. there is nothing stopping any body from fitting a cargo pod.

Henry120: They strike. They strike because they're irresponsible.

I suggest you look up strike. people on leave can not strike

Henry120: Citation for what exactly? You led the strike.

prove it

Henry120: Lies, you were in front. You led the strike.

citation needed.

Henry120: I know you joined in, in the strike.

Not a a strike and no I was not there.

http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDMQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.defense-aerospace.com%2Fdae%2Farticles%2Fcommuniques%2FBenchmarkingPerformance_VF.pdf&ei=TeP4U5DrB_Gf7AbE84GwDg&usg=AFQjCNGwC_oluO8v7pARYzzRJH91O6GLkw&bvm=bv.73612305,d.ZGU

currently the SANDF has 29% tooth with 71 tail.

Henry120: They earn enough to not carry out strikes.

When did the SANDF strike. Sure they pickted but it was not a strike

agaugust: 350,000 men need 35,000 vehicles or else they will trek till their legs break.

10 men average per vehicle will fill up 35,000 vehicles.

What of vehicles for medicals, food, water, fuel, ammunition, to support 350,000 hungry and thirsty fighting men on a frontline?

Hunger, thirst, sickness, climate/weather, shortage of ammunition, shortage of fuel, will wreck your army.

Your ANC republic has NEVER deployed up to 5,000 SANDF in frontline at once, so you inexperienced people don't know how Nigeria copes with 20,000 soldiers in North East that have to be spread apart over large distances on land as big as Great Britain.

You see why we say South African military is only good on photo? You guys don't know real war

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you could fit 50 people in a samil 100.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAMIL_Trucks



the SADF had well more than 350 000 people under there command with enough trucks, APC for them

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Defence_Force

we had our peak had 12 000 SAMILs in serves

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18359

not to menstion you cant be all tooth you need a tail

agaugust: Now for the Beechcraft War !

Look Mr. Fraudrewza, you don't try to fool a Nigerian, we are the smartest people on this continent.

Go play tricks on the Lesotho people encircled like a piece of cake inside your territory. 10 South Africans CANNOT fool 1 Nigeri. an.

Beechcraft 350i and 350ER don't carry cargo pods, you are deliberately posting wrong photos of Beechcraft 200 and other old models with civilian cargo pods.

Beechcraft 350i and 350ER have exactly 8 small round port/side windows.

The photo you posted below is NOT Beechcraft 350, it has 9 small round port/side windows instead of 8

https://kingairnation.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Untitled22.png

The photo you posted below is NOT Beechcraft 350, it has 6 small round port/side windows instead of 8

https://kingairnation.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Untitled.png

The photo you posted below is NOT Beechcraft 350, it has 9 small round port/side windows instead of 8


http://e1.photos.flightcdn.com/photos/retriever/1a412f910c8686e0fe2386305bf6c03eac85e99d


Now the real Beechcraft 350ER you posted are from Dubai Air Show 2011.

So, at the airshow, the marketer attached extra extra hardware options on top and below the aircraft just for the air show, those are NOT the standard hardware on Beechcraft 350ER, they are just options you may likely add.

Your photos below are Dubai 2011 air show photo with extra promo hardware, not manufacturer basic standard.


http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/media/dubai11/hawker-beechcraft-king-air-350er-dubai-2011-89406.aspx

http://defence.pk/threads/dubai-airshow-2011.140404/page-6

[img]http://iho.hu/img/repules_14_03/140317_textron/Hawker_Beechcraft_King_Air_350ER.jpg[/img]
https://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/media/dubai11/emptys/89406/hawker-beechcraft-king-air-350er-dubai-2011.jpg


Now you proved yourself wrong by posting only one correct photo of Beechcraft 350ER, no extra hardware options added on top or below the aircraft, and that looks EXACTLY like Nigerian air force Beechcraft 350ER and the Manufacturer's standard 350ER.

See the photo below, you posted it from airliners.net ....

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/0/8/3/1429380.jpg

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never said they where 350s now did I. I said Beechcraft. I was showing you what a cargo pod and recon pod looks like and how the pods you have are cargo pods not recon.

agaugust: You already admitted one superiority in the bold words




Olodo

Gripen fly low, what of Ethiopian army SAM missiles?

Gripen fly low, Su-27 radar has ground detection range about 60 km when Gripens of SAAF cannot attack BVR. Fool

Gripen switch off radar, yet it's metal body will still be detected by Su-27. Fool

Gripen switch off radar, does it switch off engine and body heat? Su-27 has IR detector search/track with 50km range. Fool

Jets don't k.ill with radar, they k.ill with missiles.

Ethiopian Su-27 jets has 80km range missile, South Africa has Gripen jets with 20km range missile.

You don't need a fortune teller to tell you that the Mighty Ethios will eat up Soweto Southies for breakfast


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBJNmNhfils

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modern AAMs like the ISRT and A darter use extreme off bor targeting and firing. So unless the SU27 can pull a 100g turn it is irrelevant.

agaugust: Okay 200 SANDF ?



Now it's 250 SANDF ?

Which one now? How many SANDF fought Seleka ?



Well this same Soweto newspaper says 400 SANDF

"The defensive positions of more than 400 South African soldiers, including paratroops, were overrun at the weekend during a 13-hour battle with more than 3000 Seleka rebel forces."

http://m.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/?articleId=8555931


200 SANDF, 250 SANDF, 300 SANDF, 400 SANDF......now which one do we believe?

South Africa cannot count it's own soldiers in Bangui but you counted all Seleka rebels inside their own camp, abi ? M.ad man

You see why nobody believes all these your war propaganda of fake victory, fake heroes, fake sniper record, and fake casualties ?

South Africa is the most deceitful nation in the world !

PROVED BEYOND DOUBT !
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250 includes the trainers that where in country, the QRF team sent in when the fighting started along with a medical team.

agaugust: So you admit South Africa has no money for 130,000 man army, and you said in war you will EASILY build a 350,000 man army?

You are just a craaaaaazy navy cook

I Said war time economy

agaugust: You are planning for war on your laptop, not in real life. When real war comes, your theory will be choked by reality of practicals, that's life.

Show us proof you have 300,000 rifles in storage and military grade all in good condition.

Show us proof you will build 1,000 APC a year in RSA, are you now China? How big are your factories?

You need 35, 000 vehicles to move a 350,000 man army well protected around a war zone.

You are just a Day Dreamer ! Your South African SANDF has never deployed up to 5,000 soldiers at once in a war. Day Dreamer
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padge 382
http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCsQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww1.uneca.org%2FLinkClick.aspx%3Ffileticket%3DO7vpBVOCsQk%253D%26tabid%3D6855%26mid%3D5738&ei=XNP4U623ForR7AaH8YHQBA&usg=AFQjCNG9XS4IMZCWahSVNZ7NBdX2wOdNtg&bvm=bv.73612305,d.bGQ



http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/print-version/sa-defence-company-gets-yet-another-big-order-from-us-2008-08-01
440 RG31 built at one plant for one customer that is 588 in 12 months. then there is paramount and denel. 1000 a year is easy.

And your point is, Nigeria does not have enough APCs? we all know that. and who said we will go from to 350 000 in one year. I said if need be we can easily pull it off. We have enough people, industry and resources to it.

agaugust: Who told you it is easy to field extra 300,000 soldiers when war comes? How many training facilities do you have to produces new 300,000 soldiers and add to your current 50,000 ?

Do you know the cost of extra personal materials and equipment for 300,000 new soldiers? A modern day fully equipped soldier costs about $10,000 to train and equip with ordinary rifle, no vehicle, no transport, no heavy equipment, no firepower, just riflemen alone.

300,000 men with only one rifle each will cost South Africa $3 Billion !!!!!

You are gonna build a rag tag army of 300,000 new rifle soldiers, no APC, no Tanks, no Artillery, no Helicopters

SANDF has NEVER deployed 5,000 men as the same time to battle in it's entire history so you don't know how much Nigeria spends to maintain 20,000 men against Boko Haram
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During war what do you think takes prioty. Defence or educastion, infustructer delpoment extra extra.

Current cost cuting army trains 3000 at bmt a year using one training facitly. Since the navy trains 300 per intake at a facty built to train 1000 plus I don't see the training being a problem.

We have a few hundred thousand rifels in storage

We build around 1000 apc a year for the export market and we have 600 ratels in stors. So wepaons, training, transport and budget is coverd.

agaugust: Soldiers are not policemen who are matched with number of people they have to monitor, you don't have crime where you don't have people. Soldiers defend land mass, not population size. Fighters occupy land whether people live there or not. ISIS is occupying empty land in Iraqi desert, means he is cutting off part of your territory to make his own nation inside your own nation.

Britain has 64 million population and 130,000 man army
South Africa has 54 million population and 50,000 man army

You just like misleading people, and you say you are a trained soldier, you think more like a policeman
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The uk has enough money for that. We don't. So what has nigeria given up for there numbers since you don't have nealy the budget of the UK mod

agaugust: SANDF had 400 men in the fight according to your own country sources...

"The defensive positions of more than 400 South African soldiers, including paratroops, were overrun at the weekend during a 13-hour battle with more than 3000 Seleka rebel forces."

http://m.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/?articleId=8555931

You can count your own country's soldiers you deployed in battle, but you cannot count the enemy fighters that are a.ttack.ing y.ou, or have you seen people doing population census head count inside a hot battle zone where shells are e.xploding and h.uman b.lood is flowing like water?

Did any South African enter Seleka camp to count their numbers? ...and Seleka did not c.ut o.ff his Soweto head?

It is wrong to say 200 SANDF Vs 7,000 Seleka. Did your 200 men fight 7,000 men for 18 hours and survive? You ever seen any such in modern warfare history?

That is the big sign of a propaganda report, same thing South Africa did in Angola/Cuba Vs SADF bush war, it's your trademark, lies, fraud.

A journalist who claims to be giving first-hand information from SANDF officers and is still writing "Anti-Aircraft Rockets Used To Attack Towns" has destroyed the whole story he wrote, he has ZERO credibility, and the SANDF men he called heros are all ZEROES.

Your 2km sniper kill range story is also fake, it's proof is only what one South African propagandist edited on Wikipedia.

See, reputable world news media avoided reporting SANDF stories of war in C.A.R and Congo DRC, they don't want to get messed up with South Africa's usual propaganda campaign of making cowards look like world class heroes, it destroys credibility.

Go fvck yourselves in South Africa with your fake war achievements, the rest of the world is too wise !

South African military is ZERO and not any hero. FACT !

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We only sent 200
http://www.timeslive.co.za/africa/2013/01/06/sa-troops-arrive-to-secure-capital-of-central-african-republic



How is it wrong, sure there where not 7000 on the front line. But ever seleka solder killed could be replaced due to that 7000.

Again it means the cubans and angolans could rotate and replace solders.

He is a jornalist, the SANDF did not proof read his artical. He is independet. The SANDF does by the way have journlists under there employ and they uniformed personal.

It comes from a number of media sources who where in country. The wikepedia write up came latter and it gives sources.

Bbc reported on it and I can post a french news artical on drc if you want.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-22003412


Only you and oth person nigerians on this forum have doubt.

agaugust: LOL... You said Poland has 995 tanks with 120mm guns, but I ruined y.our long post with TWO sources that proved Poland has only 947 tanks and only 125mm guns and the tanks are NOT products of NATO, they are Russian tanks, and outside the scope of equipment origin and two gun sizes we are comparing.

Your new fake claim, 995 units of 120mm tanks of Poland, sank you into a deeper mud pit than you were before.....

Now you are so dirty messed up in mud.... I have to take over your Girlfriend, Patrick just got Shiboboed

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995, 947 does not matter. And nore does the fact it uses a 125mm. The 125mm is bigger than a 105mm and still uses HEAT or knitec to kill tanks not HE.