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[quote author=Igwe-1 link=topic=499069.msg6595555#msg6595555 date=1282155626]I understand what you guys are saying about being a commercial hub. But that does not mean you don;t have to give the peoplet thier education. My cousin lives in onitsha and is worth Billions of Niara from his shops theie but he had to risk his life driving to Nnamdi Azikiwe in Awka just to get a part time degree in business administration. He had to because my family transformed and almost every youth had a first degree and he felt the need to have basic education since he understood the importance of it in the whole family. That should not happen. Even if it should remiain a commercial hub, i bet you those traders can do better and perhaps put their business in a different level if they had more education. After that degree, my cousin actually expanded, speaks better and travels out to do more business with confidence.
Bottom line is that our states and federal government have failed. The people are hard working, are a step ahead and moving faster than the government. All they need is assistance. We need city planning, and i agree, city Mayors so that people can be closer to their government and hold them more accountable.[/quote]This brings another dimension in our university education.In the western world people work(even if part-time) and go to university but such scenario is difficult in nigeria.I think it has to do with availabilty of work and also what you talked about(sorry for my earlier outburst)locating most of our universties in remote places.

Fhemmmy:
If there is no money to be handed to them and they have to generate money before they could steal it, the potential of all states will be shown and revealed.
So i totally agree with you on that one

The psychology behind this is a bit easy you know.The present system of handout from abuja actually encourages people with criminal mind to go into elections for governorship because of the free money from allocations but if the states are made to generate their resources for the running of their states most of these thieves will likely to be discouraged from going for that post.

It has more to do with the system of governance in nigeria rather than the whoever is the governor.

Let there be a rule that all states must generate their resources to run the state and no revenue allocation from abuja and see things gradually taking shape.

Fhemmmy:
To raise this GDP in states like Oshun, Ogun, Ondo and Kwara is so easy.
Let them embrace agriculture and they will soon pass lagos

I doubt it will happen because they are are not 'forced' to do so.

kildran:
A very good topic, though inmy humble opinion the poster does not know what Onitsha needs. Onitsha used to be a commercial hub, the only reason why it isn't any more is simply because Nigerian products are not competitive price wise. The solution to the Onitsha (and if I may say Aba) problem is to have good power supply, high import duties especially Chinese products, and have incentives for manufacturers.

Kildran Onicha is still a commercial hub.Maybe what you meant is industrial hub which Aba is.Onicha is more of commercial while Aba is more of industrial.

yahoozee-olu maintain

Shokoribobo-kc fresh

U go wound=ill bliss

Obodo(original version)-nigga raw

Suddenly-dbanj

Igwe you have already replied me.If you think the most thing Onicha needs is a university then you can go make noise to the federal government forgetting rigourous urban planning and security.

[quote author=Igwe-1 link=topic=499069.msg6593280#msg6593280 date=1282134505]@Phanthom,
You must be out of your mind if you have to place congestion over education. They can always locat such a university in the outskirts of the city and make it more accessible with roads and eventually bringing development to the said area. We just need leaders who have basic thinking faculties. An uneducated mass cannot achieve development. The federal government building more Universities can easily creat >1million jobs in nigeria because people are ready to pay for school but cannot find schools. The Anambra state government should take on this responsibility since the federal government is impotent. They can have a second Nnamdi Azikiwe University Campus in Onitsha both in honor of late Zik since he is from onitsha while creating an opportunity to educate the masses. IF the feds cannot do it, the state should build another Anambra state university campus in Onitsha.[/quote]My friend stop talking trash!

Which university do you expect the FG to build?Where does FG build university in recent times?Does a university have to located in a town to make everyone in that town educated?If that is the case then everyone that grew up in owerri and enugu is supposed to be educated.

Btw how does building universities create jobs?

EzeUche22:
I understand what you are saying. My family in Arochukwu used to say that I speak Igbo funny since I was raised in Port Harcourt, but that changed when I moved to the U.S. since the people around me speak a more central Igbo.

Anyway, do not compare this Ikwerre to Ngwa. lol Don't want that boy getting the satisfaction that I can understand his funny dialect.

Nothing funny about his dialect.

You guys have to understand that nigerians in most cases(especially younger generation) have lost touch of what is truely good governance that mediocre perfomance is now regarded as good governance.

Hmm piece of meat this your campaign for jona na whao

afam4eva:
I thougt this Bk/babe was female.

He is a transvestite

EzeUche22:
Why should we wipe them out? Have you went to Bayelsa? No Igbo man would want to go there. They can keep it. I think they all should be forecfully moved to Bayelsa State.

If you were talking to an Itsekiri man, maybe he would want the Ijaw wiped out.

Guy igbos dey bayelsa wella o.

9jaganja:
I was at the water front area of Port Harcourt in my last visit to Nigeria.It was a perfect spot for sensimina but to be honest if those people are not properly settled in a different and descent environment, destitution will destroy Port Harcourt. I saw gun toting gang bangers all extorting money from people just chilling around the area but don't live there. I think the governor of the state should arrange a settlement for the people before just destroying their shelter. But I gotta say the people there are living on the edge of the world waiting for a last push fall and raise hell. Don't provoke the extreme!!! They are using government to claim territory and this is wrong in all codes.

This is why I say Nigerian government is on most front one of the worst in the world. There has to be a provision for settlers' relation with natives else we will commit a cultural genocide. Nigerian lands are not owned by the federal government, they are owned by the people of the state/people of the towns and villages. If we keep saying we are all Nigerians and anyone has right to be native in any part of Nigeria, we will commit a cultural genocide and cause a cultural conflict. Ikwerre people have majority land in Port Harcourt according to what I figured in my numerous visits to Port Harcourt but they don't own all of the land. Being majority in a land doesn't make the minority obsolete. If you treat them as being obsolete because of you are a majority, you will cause an uprising.

Are there no social philosophers in Nigeria? Is this country that silly? We are not one in Nigeria, we are 253 and every member ought to be heard and respected culturally and territorially. If a bunch of settlers settle in your village and refuse to play by your cultural norms, then they have the right to leave and have denied themselves the right to stay. You can't impose yourself on indigenes of a land as a stranger. If you buy land from them, you are only renting it; the land belong to the natives of the land and as long as you assimilate with their culture and don't try to impose your views on them, you can stay forever and establish as part of them. That's how to keep each member of this fake union happy.


I hope the naive ogre Jonathan reads this next time he wants to post about settler/native relation in Nigeria.


NATIONAL REFERENDUM NOW OR NIGERIA NEVER!!!! WE ARE ON THE BRINK OF A SERIOUS CIVIL UPRISING!!!!!

You gave a thought you know.I thought all 'rivers'people claim to be one and in harmony.So why the furore?Some people you ask them their ethnic group and they claim rivers no be so?

Abagworo:
The place is f***ed up.there is nothing tribal about this issue.the amanyanabo of okrika is my inlaw and does not support crime.the problem is that the okrikas have experienced wars and self-imposed marginalisation for so many years and have therefore grown violent.okrikas are a careful mixture of ijaw and igbo and speak both languages.there is still an overwhelming level of inter-marriage with igbos till this day.any well meaning okrika indigene will back amaechis planned development of the waterfronts.some politicians are just fueling the crisis to discredit amaechi.

Abagworo what do you mean by self imposed marginalisation?

Thick girls rule.Wetin be lekpa shandy?

EzeUche22:
Beaf,

You really want to start this beef again? Am I the only Igbo who mistrust the Ijaw in this thread. Look at the other post and many other people share my sentiments. You Ijaws talk out of both sides of your mouth. And I will never forgive the Ijaw in Port Harcourt who would not return our land!

In Port Harcourt, it was the Ijaws who were unforgiving and hostile, hence the passing of a , law by Diette-Spiff to seize Igbo property! Most Ijaw saw it as an opportunity to claw back some ground on Ndigbo who had controlled Port Harcourt before the war. Sam Mbakwe fought hard for most people to regain their property and it was only the vengeful nature of Diette-Spiff that prevented everyone gaining their property back! I will never forgive the Ijaw for this treachery!

Who told you beaf is ijaw?

Nigeria Ranks Second in Lowest Living Condition
By Paul Ohia with agency report, 08.17.2010

United States based Newsweek magazine has ranked living conditions in 100 countries around the world and in the magazine’s analysis, Nigeria was judged to be second to the worst while Finland is the best.

Cameroun is at the bottom of the ladder while Burkina Faso is a step ahead of Nigeria.
The analysis examined factors such as education and health care, quality of life, economic dynamism, and political environment.
Finishing after Finland were Switzerland and Sweden. The United States was in 11th place.

The analysis of educational systems used factors such as the international PISA studies, as well as measures of efficiency and the educational level of the population at large. In this, Finland was in first place, followed by South Korea and Canada, which were in a tie.
Finland’s lowest marks were in health care, in which it came in 17th. The ranking was based on a World Health Organisation comparison examining how many years an average citizen could expect to live a full-blown life without being burdened by illness or disability. The top three were Japan, Switzerland and Sweden.
A number of factors were considered in assessing quality of life.

These included gender equality, the percentage of people living in poverty, the equality of wealth distribution, the suicide rate, the state of the environment, and the proportion of employed people in the population. In this, Finland was in fourth place, with Norway, Switzerland, and Luxembourg coming ahead.
Economic dynamism was gauged on the basis of GDP growth, the proportion of services and industrial output in GDP, innovations, the ease with which new companies can reach the market, and the scope of the stock market. In this Finland was eighth, with Singapore, the USA and South Korea as the top three.

The quality of the political was gauged through a comparison of democratic freedom, the proportion of citizens involved in elections, and political stability. Finland ranked fifth, trailing Sweden, Norway, The Netherlands, and New Zealand.

http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=180852

Minister advocates deregulation of Universities
By Ngozi Sams


August 17, 2010 03:03AM
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The newly appointed minister of state for education, Kenneth Gbagi, has called for the deregulation of the university sector so that schools can single-handedly raise funds for their projects.

Mr. Gbagi made this call on Monday in Abuja when the executive secretary of the National Universities Commission (NUC), Julius Okojie, paid him a visit. He said that the move was necessary because government’s resources are inadequate to cover the high cost needed to run Nigerian universities every year.

Meaningful education

“We must as a country start, the same way we deregulated the petroleum sector, to deregulate the university sector,” said Mr. Gbagi. “I will support anything in that direction because the burden of government in the education sector is one that is extremely very heavy.”

Though he admitted it would mean an increase in tuition fees, he said that many Nigerian families were already paying large amounts to send their children abroad.

“It will interest you to know that a great proportion of our resources today is paid to African countries. In Ghana, our students pay close to $5,000 and $7,000 to gain university education,” he said. “If we take all these children to Ghana, America, and England and pay fees, we should be ready to pay minimum fees for our students in Nigeria. If you must go to school, you must be able to pay a price.”

He, therefore, urged the commission’s executive secretary to work out a ten-year plan on how to gradually reduce the government’s involvement in running the university system.

Illegal degrees

The new minister also talked about the growing number of illegal degree-awarding institutions in the country. He charged the NUC to be more proactive in tackling the menace. Mr. Gbagi said the 60 days of grace currently given to such institutions is out of place and ordered the immediate closure of illegal universities when identified.

“As NUC publishes the list of genuine higher institutions, it should also set up a monitoring team to discover and get reports of such institutions. Government will do everything within its power to ensure that these illegal institutions are dealt with very quickly,” he said.


http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/News/National/5607562-146/minister_advocates_deregulation_of_universities_.csp

bawomolo:
folks like phillip and sagamite refuse to admit to this.

it's all western influence i guess

I think when they say western influence they mean that 'acceptance side of it' rather than the activity itself.

bawomolo:


a store of all places. wahala dey o

you guys are fooling yourself if you think being gay is a "disapora" thing.

Why are you suprised?Any person that says gayism is a diapora thing is trying to pretend or is quite ignorant.

The incidences i am talking about in my then unity school were as far back as 1993 and the guys when guys were is jss1 and jss2.

Some christians can be overzealous and simply i.d.i.o.t.i.c

^^^ If any of you went to boarding schools in naija this should not be a suprise

EzeUche22:
I am actually starting to regret what my Aro ancestors did with the selling of slaves to the whites. What an inhuman trade!

The ramifications can be felt today throughout the black world. Our lost brothers and sisters who were stripped away from their beloved continent!

I thought you saw it as a thing of pride and something to boast about?

I have been observing this thread and i am quite suprised that some people think that gayism is a recent phenomenom in nigeria.As someone that went to one the unity schools in nigeria i would be suprised if any person that also went to any unity school would be suprised at gayism in the country.

In the unity school then though i was quite suprised that a guy would be sexually interested in a fellow guy i was not too suprised to see a few of gays then because even before i entered the unity school there is a name we they were known for in the town i grew up.They were refered to as ndi opi ike which literaly translates to pokers of nyash  ,

My take is that some are lured into it while some are born with that orientation.I never had any issue with the ones that were in my dormitory those days.My take that time was 'you guys can keep to yourself but do not sneek up to in the night looking for my nyash'.That i will not find funny.

In as much that saharareporters can be a bit sensational with their news but the naming of these media guys and ladies might mean that there is so no smoke without fire.I mean names are published here

Mods abeg move this thread to the appropriate section.

honeric01:
Isn't that the right thing to do? when you are being belittled and disregarded, do something to make yourself relevant and respected, TELL THOSE NIGERIANS AROUND YOU TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEIR DAMN FUTURE IF THEY DON'T WANT THEIR KIDS CUSSING THEIR GRAVES WHILE THEY ARE GONE.

that is not going to happen with the present nigerian generation

honeric01:
@ 4 play

Where did you copy these comments from? they are striking and we need to find a way to send them to some of our local media houses, if they can have them published on a Monday or Friday dailies, it's going to go along way to strike the government and the politicians and who knows? this might help them have a change of mind with working to make Nigeria a country people from all over the world and not just Africans alone would want to associate themselves with.


Poor Nigerians, i rather stay here in my country  

You think the criminals we have as rulers send You think they are not aware of such sentiments against nigerians?

Your dead head of state who was kept in the specially built mogue for months while you were lied to about his condition, killed many Nigerians for their kidneys

Mehn tha Yardua saga really disgraced nigeria.

What is this so called doctor doing here, dont they have stinking Nigerians to treat back in Nigeria, a country that had a dead man for a head of state, a dead man that raided and killed people for their kidneys. Just like their negro brothers, Nigerians are in the business of imposing themselves on South Africans, no one invited them to come here, Nigerians are hated all over the world and no nation wants them and rightfully so. SA is no different. What was that fake doctor doing at Cubana when there are filthy Nigerian restaurants to go to. Nigerians disgust other diners, they come out of the toilet, hands not washed, and bury their hands in food and lick fingers. Cubana is right.

I would rather die than be treated by a Nigerian so called doctor. Nigerians are dying back in Nigeria, there is no medical care in that hellhole that is why their corrupt elite and politicians go overseas for medical care. Where did this fly-by-night doctor get his qualifications?

This is not a doctor, he is a fake that bought his certificate from whatever Nigerian university. He is a scammer and a drug pusher.

Mandela and his "SA belongs to all who live in it" rubbish fooled a lot of people. Nigerians do not belong in SA and SA does not belong to Nigerians or any other foreigner for that matter. The obsession with our country is disgusting, Nigerians are criminals that fact is known the world over, they are Jews' drug peddling boys, male love-peddlers and sex slaves.

I want them out of my country and they are leaving, they are going to countries like Austrialia, Canada, USA to ply their drug trade and male prostitution there. They never go back to that sewage plant they call home country.

No South African wants to live in Nigeria, why are the unlikable Nigerians in SA.

Cubana security did the right thing to keep Nigerians out, they must have had an experience with these tyre lip scums.

To that piece of UK based trash that is here to lecture us about good Nigerians, telling us that she is married to one, stay where you are, we don't miss you or any other black South African who dragged his or her @$$ and went to subject him/herself to modern day slavery in foreign countries. Trash attracts and breeds trash, stay where you are, your cheap @$$ is not a ticket for that Nigerian scum to come and live here, he will soon realise that he made a mistake riding you to buy SA citizenship, many regret going that route because they ended up killing the trash and landing up in jail. Cheap thighs attract cheap dipstick.

Black SA achievers have no need to leave the country, only failures leave to work as modern day slaves in Europe, USA, Canada, etc, that is proven by the fact that when you failures come back you don't get the positions your peasize brains tell you you deserve, because you don't know half of what you think you know. You know NOTHING compared to those you left behind, thats because you are liars who are employed to turn helpless whites and change their soiled adult nappies and linen. Dying settlers, young and old, do No1 and No2 on the same spot like they did in the caves.

Chineke see comments .Men the hatred is for real

EzeUche22:
To create structures, cultures, languages etc. There is no difference between an African's brain or an European brain.

I think there is a differnece in maturity in thinking and africans are a bit too emotional