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SLIGHT:
Another Derailed thread, the poster said igbo states are lagging behind; if u think is true or false, back up your opinions with proofs, now , why the comparison of igbo and yoruba states?? For me i think its true in terms of infastructures like bridges dams flyovers and agricultural dev.

If you do not know what to say just keep quiet.Imagine flyover.Do you build flyover just for the sake of building it?

As for dams tell me a dam in any state where the exist that has been built by the state government.

As for bridges i have nothing to say to you.You need to travel before you make statements.

As for agricultural development you may have a point.

And poster said lagging behind.Lagging behind who?

It is either the AD governors and afenifere were politically naive, tribalistic in their thinking or plain selfish to be conned by Obasanjo.

Says; *Atiku’s exit is a relief
*Afenifere leaders were dishonest
* AC just beginning its own merger talks

When you conduct an interview with an angry former state governor who was “conned” by a former President of Nigeria, a fellow Yoruba, what do you expect?
Bisi Akande, the former Osun State governor between 1999 and 2003 on the platform of an atrophying Alliance for Democracy, AD, but who today is National Chairman of the Action Congress, AC, can talk. But how do you stop a man who continues to provide invaluable never-before-heard information?

In this interview, Akande discloses, for the first time, how former President Olusegun Obasanjo dragged the leadership of the Yoruba body, Afenifere, including the late Chief Abraham Adesanya, Chief Ayo Adebanjo and Chief Olanihun Ajayi, to the floor of comic gymnastics only to leave them for dead. Obasanjo not only outwitted them, he conned them out of five state governorships (Ogun, Osun, Oyo, Ekiti and Ondo), leaving only Lagos State, for obvious political and commonsensical reasons. But that was not all Akande spoke about: He talked about the recent failed mega party moves and says the AC was never a part of the earlier merger talks. For him, the exit of Vice President Atiku Abubakar from the AC to his original Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, is a big relief. Besides, he talks on the perceived offence of the late Chief Bola Ige and his assassination; how the case was eventually bungled and who to hold responsible; the crisis in Lagos State between Governor Raji Fashola and his legislative arm; how Bola Tinubu survived Obasanjo’s onslaught of 2003 and many more. Take a sampler of what Obasanjo did to Afenifere leaders: “Obasanjo refused to sit down. He greased their ego. Obasanjo said ‘I can not sit and talk to Papa Abraham


Adesanya; I must stand up; I must respect him.”
And when Obasanjo started showing signs of repudiating the agreement he had with Afenifere, the leaders went back and got this:
“We went to invite the Awujale of Ijebuland, we went to invite Bishop Gbonigi, we went to invite Bishop Ladigbolu and asked some of us who are leaders to meet with Obasanjo and we met with Obasanjo again.
“Obasanjo who said he would not sit down to talk to Papa Abraham Adesanya was unfazed this time around. He simply laid down there on his couch, sleeping, and he was no longer going to compromise”.


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How Obasanjo Conned Afenifere, AD Governors – Bisi Akande, AC Chairman
Interview May 22, 2010
Chief Bisi Akande
Says;  *Atiku’s exit is a relief
*Afenifere leaders were dishonest
* AC just beginning its own  merger talks

When you conduct an interview with an angry former state governor who was “conned” by a former President of Nigeria, a fellow Yoruba, what do you expect?
Bisi Akande, the former Osun State governor between 1999 and 2003 on the platform of an atrophying Alliance for Democracy, AD, but who today is National Chairman of the Action Congress, AC, can talk. But how do you stop a man who continues to provide invaluable never-before-heard information?
In this interview, Akande discloses, for the first time, how former President Olusegun Obasanjo dragged the leadership of the Yoruba body, Afenifere, including the late Chief Abraham Adesanya, Chief Ayo Adebanjo and Chief Olanihun Ajayi, to the floor of comic gymnastics only to leave them for dead.  Obasanjo not only outwitted them, he conned them out of five state governorships (Ogun, Osun, Oyo, Ekiti and Ondo), leaving only Lagos State, for obvious political and commonsensical reasons.  But that was not all Akande spoke about:  He talked about the recent failed mega party moves and says the AC was never a part of the earlier merger talks. For him, the exit of Vice President Atiku Abubakar from the AC to his original Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, is a big relief. Besides, he talks on the perceived offence of the late Chief Bola Ige and his assassination; how the case was eventually bungled and who to hold responsible; the crisis in Lagos State between Governor Raji Fashola and his legislative arm; how Bola Tinubu survived Obasanjo’s onslaught of 2003 and many more.  Take a sampler of what Obasanjo did to Afenifere leaders: “Obasanjo refused to sit down.  He greased their ego.  Obasanjo said ‘I can not sit and talk to Papa Abraham Adesanya; I must stand up; I must respect him.”
And when Obasanjo started showing signs of repudiating the agreement he had with Afenifere, the leaders went back and got this:
“We went to invite the Awujale of Ijebuland, we went to invite Bishop Gbonigi, we went to invite Bishop Ladigbolu and asked some of us who are leaders to meet with Obasanjo and we met with Obasanjo again.
“Obasanjo who said he would not sit down to talk to Papa Abraham Adesanya was unfazed this time around.  He simply laid down there on his couch, sleeping, and he was no longer going to compromise”. Excerpts:

By Jide Ajani , Deputy Editor, & Anthonia Onwuka

Your political party, the Action Congress, AC, seems confused.  You were recently reported to be involved  in merger talks with the possibility of coming out with a mega party but suddenly some of the leading lights in your party jumped ship and decided to move on, what happened?
It is not right to say that my political party, the AC, was involved in merger talks with other political parties.  And if that would be true, it would just be true within the last one week.

I don’t agree.  It was public knowledge and the talks had been on for months but there was no denial regarding the reports in the media that a mega party was in the making with the involvement of AC?
Let me explain. It was a group of people, politicians, they called themselves mega, who invited us to come on board and we told them that we were not interested.  The reason is that we do not believe that any other political party in this country is more mega than the AC.  So, we never answered them.

Then came another group of people who called themselves National Democratic Movement, NDM.  They wrote a letter to me.

The letter was signed by Alhaji Atiku Abubakar, General Muhammadu Buhari and Alhaji Attahiru Bafarawa.  The three of them signed the letter which they sent to me and tried to invite my interest in what they said they were doing.

Honestly, my reaction was that I should take this letter to my party since I am the chairman; and I did go.  I called the elders of my party and I read the letter to them, explaining that this is a letter I got from a body called NDM, and I asked ‘what do I do with this letter’.


Akande
My party said the letter was addressed to you and it is your own business, don’t involve us in it.  As leader of the party, I wouldn’t be expected to and I wouldn’t attend such a meeting.  However, some members of my party were attending the meetings of the group, not because my party believed in the merger, you know, but some members of my party which included, at that time, Turaki Atiku Abubakar, Bola Tinubu, Usman Bugaje, Tom Ikimi, Ben Obi and may be one or two others, were attending the meetings of the NDM.

We were waiting for them to come back with ideas of whatever they think we should do. But what we decided when we went to our party was that whatever ideas these people bring back to us, our party would not change its own name and it would not change its own logo because we of the AC do not believe that any other party is going to be more mega, if there, indeed, is going to be any mega, than the AC. We even felt the word mega sounds arrogant and it started with the PDP and it led them to make so many mistakes and we don’t want to belong to that type of thing. So, we went back to our National Executive Committee, NEC, and agreed that we would not dispense with our name and we would not dispense with our logo.

This Ezeuche is a razz fool.

Nigerians lose millions in search of diplomas
By Nicholas Ibekwe


May 22, 2010 11:03PM
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The desperation of many Nigerians to obtain foreign degrees following the derelict state of tertiary institutions in our country, has rendered them susceptible to fraudsters operating under the guise of running foreign registered and accredited institutions in the country, a Next investigation has revealed.

One of such spurious institutions which have defrauded unsuspecting Nigerians of money running into millions of dollars, is known by the names, British School of Project Management or Project Management College, UK.

The institution(s) runs programmes leading to the award of Executive Masters Certificates and Advance Diploma degree in Project Accounting and Project Management. Project Management College UK prides itself as the “Nigeria’s first project management training institute”.

Established in 2003, it has centres in Abuja, Abeokuta, Port Harcourt, Ibadan and Lagos, and also has opened shop in two West African countries - Ghana and Sierra Leone.

The institution charges fees that range from N150, 000 to about half a million naira, for a two-weekend to six months course.


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ChinenyeN:
My father and I have discussed that times upon times. I already have a long-term plan of my own, which I've begun initiating. It is Ngwa-focused, but the initiative also involves non-Ngwa. Most of the people I'll be working with (at least for now) on my plan are diaspora Ngwa youth. After I have them all coordinated and we're ready to move further, we'll start coordinating with our Ngwa youth contacts in Nigeria (specifically ala Ngwa). I'm not the only Ngwa youth in diaspora with these aspirations. We, the youth, discussed it at our last convention, and next convention, they're expecting me to bring my long-term outline to be effected.

My father too is currently working alongside some Ngwa both here in US and in Nigeria, on socio-economic projects, initially for Aba. He isn't avoiding the place. He's been going back nearly every year, spending anywhere from a month or two over there. He's even been urging our national Ngwa organization to do more in ala Ngwa, and he's put forth many strategies. He just doesn't want me to go, yet.

ok

ChinenyeN:
Everything, in general, the leadership, people (both indigenes and non-indigenes), government & the police (hehh. . this is the reason for my NL profile picture). More specifically, for me, I want to visit my town, but for reasons best known to him, he thinks it's best that I don't visit my town (if he ever lets me visit at all). He would rather send me to a different, nearby town where one of my aunts lives.

I asked those questions simply because no one is going to better the lot of ngwaland except ngwa people themselves.I suggest you let your dad know that ngwa indegenes and in diaspora should do more to help the area(since he feels there is problem there).I see the way you are passionate about ngwa in general but it is of no use if that passion is not translated in something that will galvanize the indegens to do something in their own little way about what is going on there.Avoiding going there will not solve the existing problems there.

I want to believe that girls of other ethnic groups are either public shy or or are not adventorous enough to go into things like MGBN.Otherwise i wonder why an igbo name will represent states like Osun,kwara,Nasarawa in this beauty pageant.

ChinenyeN:
The saddest thing, Asha is that I've never been. I've only stepped foot in ala Igbo once, and that time I was visiting my mom's family in Elayi. I was very young though. So I barely even remember the visit. . . except for a few highlights. I've always wanted to go though. I even badgered my father to let me visit, but he kept saying "no" because of everything that was, and still is going on in [b]ala Ngwa[/b]. So 'til date, I've never been, but I'm in active communication with family over there, and they send pictures every now and then, but that's as far as I've gotten.

Ok second question

Whatever is happening in ngwaland that your dad is talking about where is the problem from.

Leadership there?

Non Indegenes there?

Government policies?

Or just general breakdown of law and order.

Chinenye one question

When last have you been to ngwaland?

pikadily:
@poster, there was a day wey i enter the main police barracks here,from a distance i could see 2 girls one is plaiting the others hair,they were seated while a sharped dress guy was standing over them talking couldnt hear what he was saying though as before i could reached them he moved coming towards me to the gate i just entered.How ever i reached the girls place just as one open mouth i quote[b] "Phuck woman you no go phuck, come dey yarn rubbish useless guy" second girl "leave am jare and shout some obscenities" end quote.Well you can see the dangers of slacking first hand.What the poster experienced is very common indeed.

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Ha classic case of what i am talking about.For the guy mind now im go think say na cool guy

Ebonyeyes:
You really still have no idea. I recommend the "Guys guide to reading a woman" Book. You will learn alot from there. To your question maybe she is bored and your like her option z. Girls dont come to your house because they want to fook you, believe that.

I wonder if our parents read all this books in their own bongo time  

As for the bolded i got to know what she really wanted later.No be boredom trust me.

And yes if a girl visits you it does not mean that.

Pweety4me:
[color=#550077]Realli? 9ja guys abi? [/color]
[color=#550077[b]]But dis gurl wasn't your babe was she? i am talking bout randomn gurls so called 'friends' coming up in a guys wat 4? [/color]

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Wetin
Girl wey i wan make my chic that time floor me say i no dey 'sharp'.You think say na random girl  

Ebonyeyes:
Negro please, No means no and not maybe so when she says no, it probably means she is not that attracted to you.

Na cigar you dey yarn here.For naija chics no can actually mean yes + persuasion .

If she no dey attracted to me why she go come my house for night or weekend

Pweety4me:
[color=#550077]Dis 1 fit r*pe? i mean c'mon sis he get brain na we'll i hope so anywayz sha it no go reach dat level he should be sensible enuff 2 tell d difference from wanting & not wanting.

By d way i wonder y gurls go & visit guys @ there houses?wat happened 2 going out? [/color]

You no dey visit your guy in his house   .Na only going out and outing dey interested in  

googles:
hmmmm i pity the girls who visit you now o esp. the ones with good intentions

I am still a good guy just that mugu does not exist in my systemm now  

Ebonyeyes:
Oya show us your game

On another note, this should be a lesson to young girls and women out there, these men have something in mind when  they ask you to visit them, they are ready to pounce, r@p3ing tendencies if you ask me Girls if a man asks you to visit, make sure you take your mama, papa and make sure 911 is on speed dial

I gat to see you first.No need wasting game over the net.

As for the bolded na cigar you dey yarn.Even if the girl no want action you can tune her mind into it   unless she definitely does not any activity.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=449623.msg6074697#msg6074697 date=1274485726] [/quote]Na true now.Normal guy wey like good thing go dey carry full tank around?

If liver no gree get woman then tura comes in handy  

Pweety4me:
[color=#550077]Which 1?

Enter d place na old tune o

It must be dis 1 Implications ah aha ah  [/color]

you go sing implication tire  

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=449623.msg6074678#msg6074678 date=1274485429]They ain't church boys . . . . .Na Liver Failure Syndrome worry dem.[/quote]If you probe deeper into those guys you go fit find out say TURA SOAP na there best friend

Pweety4me:
[color=#550077]I no know oo won't u teach me? [/color]

No worry if you come close na latest Tuface song you dey sing.

Ebonyeyes:
I can bet my last Naira you still fook up with your weak game these days

No worry when u try me now na quadruplets go emerge after 9 months.

But seriously if guys begin table their similar Bleep ups in their younger days you go laugh die.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=449623.msg6074627#msg6074627 date=1274484708]Well. . . . .U didn't miss much
Some Naija boys didn't bust their nuts until NYSC. [/quote]What   Taa those guys na real church guys.Which normal guy go wait that long.

Pweety4me:
[color=#550077]10 years ago ehn?

asha 80 so u were 70 then? [/color]

na wa for you   u supoose know wetin that 80 mean now  

Caparzo:
Chairman , Mugus club of 9ja . u don wise now?? e no mean say u go go despoil any girl wey come  your room now o!!!

Guy that one na long time ago.Just remembered the experience now   as was discussing with a few guys for bar just not long ago as we just dey table Bleep ups wey we do those yrs.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=449623.msg6074605#msg6074605 date=1274484240]I don't care if it was 40 years ago.
U clearly stated you were in your first year in the Uni. . . . .
Haba, come on now. . . . . .U gotta admit your game had no soul and i am sure you knew what to do but you got hit by LIVER FAILURE. [/quote]Na proper liver failure and 'good boy' wey i dey try show that time

I got to admit that yes it was yr one i still no sabi wetin dey as at that time but the experience was a good wake up call

Una dey crase

That was 10 years ago.

Alright guys i want anyone who had this experience or something similar so lay it bare.

Several years ago when i started this dating thing there was a girl that i just got and i was in year one then  .We started going out as normal.Now this chic will come to visit me and we would talk and sometimes play board games. .

However i started noticing from her 4th visit to my that she started been a bit withdrawn .She would not want to gist that much,films were no more exciting her and board games were definitely out of the question for her. . As at that time i did not know 'whatz up' so whenever she was in that mood i would suggest that we just hang out.I would ask her what the problem is but she would not say.

Later she would not be enthusiastic about seeing me as she would be giving some excuses why she cannot meet up with me.It was sometime later that i got to know the reason why she started behaving that way.A guy who was a brother to the girl's friend(a girl too) saw me one day and said that he overheard her sister and the girl saying that it seems i am a mugu and i no sharp at all    .That she came to my house and i no fit act  .

Mehn i no sleep well that night  .

From that time i started to take my time to read the body language of any girl i am dating before another 'mugu' would be made out of me.

manina:
I do not know why you say red flag, I am not African so my customs are not yours ,it is evident that for you a girl who is not a virgin is a problem and I respect that but in my country it is no important. Here people value more other things than the simple fact of dating a girl who has already been with a man in a bed. And seeing things from a different perspective, for us it is more important to know if that girl is the right one to share your life with and spend a lifetime with the wrong person is sadder than spending a first night with a not-virgin, anyway virginity only lasts that first night.

Red flag here from dayokanu does not you regarded because being a virgin.It means be careful with the internet guy.

What is all these talk about fulani warriors attacking igboland I thought it was they were stopped by one the middle belt tribes  

I thought there horses could not survive the tropical rainforest nature of the east?Is there a part of history i do not know?

The issue still remains my suggestion of pairlierment to me is still the best for everyone.

However if we are to get the true leaders in the different states(under the current system we have now in nigeria) we have to do away with people that try to stoke clannish flame who would want to ride on that to glory.

After all the two men that made owerri the town it is now developement and planning wise are not owerri indegenes(Ndubuisi Kalu and Sam Mbakwe) and Aba also developed seriously under mbakwe's regime.

Orji kalu is from Bende but i wonder is Bende got any meaninful developemnt under him  

Micheal Okpara was from Umuahia yet his developments were more was in Enugu and and Portharcourt.

ChinenyeN:
Asha, as I stated earlier, I won't be concerned until the words become actions. For now, I'm only stating my resolve and how I simply just won't just sit back as if nothing is going on. I'll listen, say what I want to say, and watch for any words that turn to action.

If it is like that i am sure mbaise would have been wiped out by now.Anyway feel free to feel how you like.