₦airaland Forum

Jezuspoa: i appreciate your attempt to answer my question, buh does that mean God is cruel? Its just like father watching his son suffer starvation, even when he has the resources to save him, just because he feels the time isn't right.

The argument can be extended further. How can God create anything that is not perfect. How can God create a flawed world, a flawed man and flawed angels that disobey Him.

Imagine I was creating a computer programme to track your computer hardware resources. Imagine if it had an undesirable 2nd function where it gathered data and sent this data to a 3rd party unsolicited. As a creator of the programme would I not redesign or modify the programme to remove this feature? Only under 2 circumstances would this not be done:

1. I lacked the means to do this (Either technical knowledge, time or financial resources... or a collection of all 3)
2. I preferred the programme to run with this 2nd undesired function.

Logicboy03:


I AM FED UP WITH THIS SECTION! I THOUGHT THAT THIS IS THE RELIGION SECTION BUT EVERY TIME I WAKE UP, I SEE AT LEAST 5 ATHEIST THREADS AT THE TOP OF THE SECTION JUST UNDER THE STICKIED THREADS. ATHEISTS HAVE RUN AMOK IN THIS SECTION! THEY OPEN THREADS ABUSING GOD AND CALLING YAHWEH ALL SORTS OF NAMES. THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR JESUS OR CRISTIANITY. IMAGINE TAT ONE OF THEM OPENING A THREAD CLAIMING THAT THE IDEA OF GOD IS A FRAUD.

IT IS NOT ENOUGH THAT 2 0UT OF THE 3 STICKIED THREADS ARE CHRISTIAN THREADS (LEAVING NOTHING FOR THE PAGANS) WE CHRISTIANS MUST FIGHT AGAINST THIS ATHEIST NUISANCE AND HAVE OUR WAYS. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF WAKING UP EVERY DAY TO SEE HELL BPUND HEATHENS ABUSING OUR ALMIGHTY GOD. I AM TIRED OF THIS CONSTANT BLASPHEMY. EVEN THOUGH ATHEISTS THREADS HARDLY REACH THE FRONT PAGE, I THINK SEUN IS ALLOWING THE ATHEISTS TO RUIN THIS WEBSITE. I WANT MORE PASTOR CHRIS AND ADEBOYE THREADS. I WANT MORE THREADS PRAISING GOD AND MORE TITHING THREADS! I WANT TO COME TO THE RELIGION SECTION WHERE I CAN DISCUSS WITH MY CHRISTIAN FRIENDS ON THE BIBLE- YES ALL THE 30 VERSIONS OF IT.

FUTHERMORE, THERE IS THIS ATHEIST CALLED OOMAN WITH ALL HIS FOOLISH AND ILLOGICAL THREADS AGAINST GOD AND CHRISTIANITY. HE THINKS HE IS INTELLIGENT WITH ALL HIS SCIENCE! HE HAS NOW BECOME THE RING LEADER OF THE FOOLISH ATHEISTS, OPENING THREADS EVERY HOUR BASHING GOD. LET ME TELL YOU, GOD IS MORE INTELLIGENT THAN THOSE SCIENTISTS AND THEIR FOOLISH THEORIES!

MY FELLOW CHRISTIANS, I BELIEVE GOD SHALL DELIVER US FROM THIS NUISANCE OF ATHEISM LIKE HOW HE DELIVERED THE ISREALITES FROM THE HANDS OF PHAROAH (AFTER 300 YEARS OF SLAVERY). I AM FASTING AND PRAYING FOR SEUN AND THE MODS TO HELP US WITH THIS PROBLEM. YOU CAN SUPPPORT MY FASTING WITH SOME TITHES.


EDIT; I ALMOST FORGOT THAT PEST CALLED PAGAN9JA, HE IS THE RINGLEADER OF THE FEW PAGANS HERE. HE NOW IS IN CAHOOTS WITH THE ATHEISTS. HE NOW DERAILS CHRISTIAN THREADS AND KEEPS SHOUTING ABOUT HIS TRIBAL AFRICAN GODS. LET US CHRISTIANS SERVER OUR WHITE JESUS IN PEACE.

LMAO, just too funny. Are you sure there are just 30 versions of the bible? I bet there might be more. Dont forget to also add the book of Mormon etc.

striktlymi: awwwww!!! Why na?

Too many "duplicate threads". We are running out of good debating topics. I might have to make a reappearance on the Muslim board

striktlymi: Any better for there? I dey look for Miss Right o

Boring too but just different I guess. Too many duplicate topics there too.

striktlymi: How so?...*Reviews my manuscript for proof to find the missing link*

You state that "if the Israelites go about like Napoleon did to conquer all and sundry, won't you be justified in saying that God is one blood thirsty deity?" yet there are clear cases where such has been permitted by God.

striktlymi: Now hold your horses my dear Atheist...slow down...let's have some proof and then I will start my defense from there .

Ok....

Deuteronomy 20:16-17:

16 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth.
17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee

striktlymi: Proof first then we will review the reason afterwards.

See above

striktlymi: Everyone is born with the will to act independently of God.

Yes I agree. Were they acting in accordance with Gods wishes and plans or not? Simple question in my opinion.

Yooguyz: There are 3 kinds of posters in this section
1.the true xtians- they believe in God and the bible, thier opinions may differ wrt church doctrines, basic cardinal points of the faith. Ex of such are Brother Goshen, jogbaje, bro Rhema, Yooguyz (spirit filled brother) e.t.c. By their posts you shall know them
2. The hypocrites- these ones are not christians at all, but they parade themselves here like christians causing divisions and strifes amongst brethren. Their main aim is to mock the xtain faith. A notable trait about them is that they contradict themselves a lot they are the ones that'll open a thread calling christianity the opium of the masses then later open a thread 4 xtains to know their #how insulting# they greet you with useless greatings even sing your praises with their mouth but in their heart they want to destroy you. They speak well of christians in one id and then use another id to insult others. They are the cause of confusion and bitter quarels in this forum. Dude shine your eyes. By their fruits you shall know them.
3.pagans[b]
4. Athiests[/b]
my advice to you is to look out for spirit filled born again brothers you share the same passion of God with and follow their posts.
Have a lovely day brother, God bless you

You mentioned that there are 3 types of posters and then listed 4

Logicboy03: Yahweh was a racist who had a chosen race of jews

Worse, they were not even advanced as some of the Asians at the time. Where did these pagans get their advanced knowledge from?

There have been a lot of advanced tribes at the time even in their region that they never dominated. They were also vassals to both Egypt and later on the Hittites.

striktlymi: Good afternoon Atheist,

Alas, you opened a thread after a looooooooooong spell! Hope you are back fully? I kinda missed you though

Does 'domination' really prove one's strength? Even if that is the case, if the Israelites go about like Napoleon did to conquer all and sundry, won't you be justified in saying that God is one blood thirsty deity?

Hello striktlymi, I hope all is well. I am only back over the short term... I intend to spend more time in the romance section unless better debates come up

Your statement does not add up. God did instruct them to ethnically cleanse and dominate other tribes in the region. So why not just dominate everyone in the region and become great like promised?

The reason is because they did not have the means to do it. They dominated those they could but were incapable of dominating the greater tribes/civilisations.

Also, what about Christian kingdoms that became great by dominating other groups like the Byzantines and the Western Europeans? Was that not part of Gods plan or were they acting independent of Gods wishes.

Logicboy03: At least Uyi Iredia has confessed to the monstrosity that is Yahweh in the old testament and denied that Yahweh is a god of love. Let's see if Striky will wake up from the opium

Most Xtians try to shy away from the God of the Old Testament.... except pastors who want to extract tithes and offerings

Israel was supposedly Gods chosen people. How great were they in the Old Testament? How come they were never able to become a major empire like all the others around their time? They were not even able to dominate their neighbours the Egyptians

If God was truly almighty, is this not evidence of His lack of capability?

Logicboy03: Striklimi doesnt realise that he is also under the influence of the opium he describes. He thinks his religion is full of love and tolerance........we can ask the Amalekites about that....oh wait..

They were ethnically cleansed

Area_boy: Honestly cant be bothered about any religion, but I just have a side note to make.

I noticed your comment on why people condemn an entire religion because of a crazy few.
The question rather is, what has the Islamic community done in response of these "crazy" few?. I don't think I've ever heard of any peaceful protests by Muslims to condemn terrorist actions? or how many very highly placed Muslim clerics/leaders have come out to say "I do not condone these behavior neither does Islam, anyone that kills another man must face punishment by god"? and go ahead to enforce it in some way? how many??

Its easy to say Islam is an evil religion, Its also easy to say Islam is a peaceful religion. Sadly, all we see is evidence of the former. The ball is in your court my Muslim brothers; Do something about terrorism!!!!! stop giving us words...

I disagree on the peaceful protest part. There have been peaceful protests against terrorism by muslims. The real bone of contention is how quick muslims are to draw blood and become violent. The situation in the North would not be accepted if it was mosques being bombed by MEND or a political/religious group. There would be riouts and civil war. Christians have been very tolerant in this whole situiation. One has to take that into account.

striktlymi: Each time I look around and see the level of hatred people exhibit just because of religion, I become very distressed. I see absolutely no reason why people can't tollerate each others views or religious affiliation. When will we stop this "madness"? When are we going to stop allowing our passion take the better part of our being? If someone's opinion offends you, can't you express your thoughts without necessarily running the person down? Two wrongs never make a right! I understand that it is very sensitive to talk about religion but I believe that there must be a common ground for everyone to relate in peace. If you can't find that common ground then know that we are first and foremost, humans before any religion. What religion did you practice in your mother's womb? The more we lose ourselves when talking about religion the more we prove Karl Max right.

Maybe we should look closer at the doctrines of some of the major religions. These doctrines do not inspire love for other religions, they are intolerant and promote religious bigotry. This in turn promotes hatred and violence.

It is not the Christian section

If it was, it would be labeled "Christian Section".

It is for all religious discussion ... including Islam .

Ijeoma Okeke100: i have slept with x amount of men

Gulp

Is X equivalent to 10

bjstardom: 1. I have a boyfriend but he is not
in the country.

Those poor boyfriends

dvdon: I think the condoms can help him stay protected but for how long?

He also said that he is d reason she's alive, she was always having sucidal attempts b4 he came into her life.

Not good. So she has HIV and is emotionally unstable too. He has bitten off more than he can chew

Subomi-luv:
Its not a deciding factor,their are rich blk men etc too. I have said it time and time again and if you dnt understand honestly am tired of explaining.

Ok.... good luck. I'm out

Subomi-luv:
i am high up in the carrer ladder and i want someone on the same level or higher. AM an educated woman not just some stupid lazy bum so i definately do not want a banana man

And what exactly is a banana man?

It seems to me that the career level is the deciding factor (as I stated earlier). If so it might become a big mistake but go ahead by all means.

mike404: Free the geh jawe, e be like say she dey hide something

She wants someone high up the career ladder and feels a white dude is a SAFER option.

Chablis,

Alomo bitters

Glenfiddich.... on the rocks

joebeckz: it might be a problem then look into that. If not then go ahead.
Atheist I fil cool but I ve not received any positive comments from ma friends. De will b like, she go old leave u, bla bla. Dis gal is som1 me Lọ̥♡̷̴̬̩̃̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ very much, initially wen we started I neva tot of marrying her, I was like ok let's date,and I knew we were mates but neva bothered since I had no future plans den,I neva tot we could com diz far but along d line, evrytin bout her just got me tripping. We had several breakups caused by me but after I try others, I still find no beta person dan her. She neva gave me problems n understands me like her best Novel. Right now I can Lọ̥♡̷̴̬̩̃̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ only her and anoda gal, and dat gal is d gal she would have for me wen we married. So mehn me am ready but ma folks n relatives are like am letting dem down.

As long as you can live with any outcomes confidently you dont need to listen to such banter. Women do tend to age quicker than men if they dont take good care of themselves but all people age regardless. If you marry a 20 year old she will eventually become old too.

I say go for it.

Subomi-luv:
Well the guy i marry does not have to be rich heck more likely than not i may be earning more than him because of my chosen profession. Its mostly abt my wants and needs. Unfortunately the majority of blk african men see women as this and men as that. A man cannot do x because he is an african men and its "unafrican". Its stuff like that that does not go down well with me esp when i also have alot to offer to the relationship and alot on my plate. That is why i came with the conclusion that yes am different and most likely will not find this kinda problem being with a white man(have alot of friends) and i dnt want to have any problems on my relationship or marriage because of lack of compatibility(thinking and feeling) diferent things and am not going to lie i do find whhite men attractive too. I also find blk men attractive too but prob 1 out of 20 would more likely be open minded abt certain things.

So where are you based.... the UK?

Maybe marriage is not meant to be then. So much emphasis on it and so much failure after it. Maybe it might be better to live a joyous single life .

joebeckz: Am a bachelor and wanna settle down before the year runs out. The girl am dating fits my kinda person. Am about to introduce her to my parents but am scared telling them we are age mates because I know who I have as parents. She isn't even my tribe which will light a little spark between I and ma people but I can handle that, after tackling that,what next do I say about her age? U can see the complication. Should I lie about her age or do I say the truth n face whatever comes? If u say I should forget her now, that's wickedness cos we ve dated for 5years and Lọ̥♡̷̴̬̩̃̊ε̲̣̣̣̥ each other pretty much. I kindly need mature and urgent replies please.

How do you feel about the age issue? If you feel it might be a problem then look into that. If not then go ahead.

Subomi-luv:
Let me not before i offend more blk men.

You are not wrong abou that statement however, is that a deciding factor? Would you marry a white guy who was not in the corporate ladder at such a scale (or who had potential to be)?

Ijeoma Okeke100: meet a gir;. do not even try sex. Wait a few months. show her all the love but stay away from sex as some ladies turn to think that the guy will not respect her after sex then marry her. every girl wants to feel special and not having sex with her but showing her you love her might be the best way to win her heart. even if you dont love her, just force yourself tp

I dunno if that works.

What if the girl wants se.x? Or what if on the wedding night they both discover some inadequacies in the bedroom

Subomi-luv:
I am not marrying a white guy because i feel they are rich. There are rich blk men too. I am not some uneducated bum wanting to leech off on some men. Infact i"m the exact opposite and i believe in indepence. I just said i also have that strive and like they match me also on that level. Not saying that blk men are not but i was talking abt white men now in general.

Your argument in the regard:

Subomi-luv:
just the way they are also on top of the corporate ladder.

needs to be explained further then. Please elaborate

Habiolar: @ op , 9ce write up,but to my opinion, wht works 4 u might nt work 4 some1 else. I had a neighbor dt he&his wife court 4 9yrs b4 getting married & up till nw, dey are happily married with kids. Me&my Gf is nw going to 5yrs relationship nw yet we still luv eachoda dearly & I still hv to 2-3yrs b4 settling down, because I hv to put tinz in place. Mind u, if I make money 2day,I'll marry her months after.
To business, 4 ur polo shirt, round neck,v-neck, sportwears 4 kids&adults . Call 07031122496 BB: 220DC3e9. Tanks.

Same here. I have a friend who dated for 10 years before marriage and are happily married now. It can happen if the partners are really certain and work together. They are agemates.

Temi 23: It sounds wow.... You can't start courting without friendship at first then relationship will be second level after then courtship will follow. And to my definition, courtship is a period during which couple develop a romantic relationship and a behavior to persuade someone to marry you. So for a courtship to be 4 yrs is even too long if you don't count the friendship level and relationship stage.

Marriage can be a financial burden. The average cost of weddings in the UK is somewhere between 8-10k GBP. Also, expect pregnancy within a year of marriage and a year out due to child birth. What about a buying a new house with a mortgage within the first 2 years of marriage (which most newly married couples would like to opt for).

Two working partners becomes 1 for 2 years after marriage and it would affect both the finances and the career paths of both partners. These days people see it as prudent to save a bit for such and 5 years may give good time to settle things.

Why do you want to marry a white man?

If it is because you like and fancy white men and you see them as attractive and preferable then go for it and good luck with that.

If you see them as more romantic loving etc and would prefer to explore that go for it too and good luck with that.

However, if you see them as:

Subomi-luv:
just the way they are also on top of the corporate ladder.

and see them as an easy way out of financial burden then SHAME ON YOU.

I have come across a few black ladies who married nice, reliable, hard working white men. You need to see how they treat these guys. They cheat on them in clubs etc with the same black men "they felt were not financially empowered enough or too domineering". These poor guys are being taken for a ride by these ladies.

If you truly intend to marry a white dude make sure it is for the first two reasons and not the third.

Temi 23: In my own point of view, long courtship start from 4years and above

Ok. So after the first year they got to know each other. The second and third years they used to position themselves in their respective careers and make enough cash for some future plans. The fourth year is to save enough finances for the marriage. How does that sound?

Ijele-igbo:
what of the chinese people who get married to each other?
What a crazy world we are living in right??
The christians would say we are in the end of times.....

The Ptolemies of Egypt married brother and sister to keep the bloodline pure. The Spanish branch of Habsburgs rulers married first cousins and closer relatives to keep the bloodline pure too. It may be sick but it is certainly not end times.

I agree that there should not be discrimination based on age etc but a 40 year old is no longer a youth. Doesnt it look silly when you go to clubs and see older women dressed really tacky and trying to outdo the younger girls. This new "COUGAR" mentality is really making the older women take things too far. Aside from that no reason why someone in their 40s cant feel sexy with herself and have some fun.