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Problems that did not get the most likes but are sufficiently intriguing may be considered.

Abused vehicles welcome.

Over to you.

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Terms and conditions apply.

Post your vehicle problem brand-specific, top 3 most liked problem cars will get repaired for free.

Labor and Diagnosis free.

Cost of parts, materials and supplies required to effect the repair will be borne by owner.

Owner is free to supply parts, materials, and supplies though.

Contest closes in 21 days.

Repair process will be posted here.

This is a promotional offer.

If the vehicle does not run and drive, free offer does not apply, instead a diagnosis and labor fee of 100,000.00 maximum applies. Owner free to supply parts, materials, and supplies needed to effect the repair.

Problems that did not get the most likes but are sufficiently intriguing may be considered.

Abused vehicles welcome.

Over to you.

Offer for Abuja residents only or those outside Abuja willing to bring the vehicle to Abuja.

Terms and conditions apply

Post your vehicle problem brand-specific, top 3 most liked problem cars will get repaired for free.

Labor and Diagnosis free.

Cost of parts, materials and supplies required to effect the repair will be borne by owner.

Owner is free to supply parts, materials, and supplies though.

Contest closes in 21 days.

Repair process will be posted here.

This is a promotional offer.

If the vehicle does not run and drive, free offer does not apply, instead a diagnosis and labor fee of 100,000.00 maximum applies. Owner free to supply parts, materials, and supplies needed to effect the repair.

Problems that did not get the most likes but are sufficiently intriguing may be considered.

Abused vehicles welcome.

Over to you.

Offer for Abuja residents only or those outside Abuja willing to bring the vehicle to Abuja.

Terms and conditions apply

Post your vehicle problem brand-specific, top 3 most liked problem cars will get repaired for free.

Labor and Diagnosis free.

Cost of parts, materials and supplies required to effect the repair will be borne by owner.

Owner is free to supply parts, materials, and supplies though.

Contest closes in 21 days.

Repair process will be posted here.

This is a promotional offer.

If the vehicle does not run and drive, free offer does not apply, instead a diagnosis and labor fee of 100,000.00 maximum applies. Owner free to supply parts, materials, and supplies needed to effect the repair.

Problems that did not get the most likes but are sufficiently intriguing may be considered.

Abused vehicles welcome.

Over to you.

Offer for Abuja residents only or those outside Abuja willing to bring the vehicle to Abuja.

Terms and conditions apply.

nas00:
Throttle position sensor malfunction is another possibility. Luvinghubby already mentioned that. A scan SHOULD give this away, but if not.. for all it's worth, remove the harness and inspect mating surfaces for moisture. If moist, allow dry before reconnecting. Use the opportunity to inspect the harness wires too.

The last thing that could be needed with a TPS malfunction is to replace it. However, you must be certain what you really have is a faulty TPS.

By the way, hope you can see how the dangers of 'steam washing' your car engine far outweigh the benefits of doing a careful, meticulous cleaning by hand periodically. In actual fact, there is no steam anywhere. All you have is usually a jet of water forced through a narrow nozzle tip to create turbulence and a HIGH PRESSURE in the flow.
It is the sheer force of this water under high pressure that dislodges most of the dirt. However, many times we end up getting the water in the wrong places as a 'collateral damage', e.g. alternator, spark plug holes, ignition coils, ECU, one sensor or the other.
You can achieve the same or even better results by using a degreaser/ organic solvent like petrol or carb cleaner to clean oil-smeared part of the engine before carefully hand-washing the engine with mild soap and water, having covered the vital areas with a water-proof material. This will usually save you the kind of issues that result from 'steam washing' engine bays.

The only part you probably need a steam washer nozzle to clean is your a/c condenser, and this must be done right to avoid 'wrecking' the condenser too.

Cheers!

Lovely explanation.

Nothing can cause me to use high pressure water streams to clean up my engine bay.

I am happy you took time out to detail why, I hope the Nigerian motoring public takes note.

This practice has caused more grief than many care to acknowledge

kingreign:
There's a reason why these sort of cars are pushed off US highways. Their integrity is compromised. The impacted side pillars can not survive another impact. Its a moving coffin, the airbag was not fixed properly and when commission occurs no deployment will occur increasing the risk of injuries and death. The chassis integrity is compromised and I am sure the tyres will keep wearing off prematurely driving Will be skewed.

Na. huge pile of danger the guy dey sell and he's proud of selling what can kill. Were this US or any other sane state he'd be cooling his heels in litigation cases.

What of all those Nigerian cut and weld cars?

[quote author=GAZZ.UZZ post=67036745]Very good Panelbeating work, good mechanical work.

Happy sales sir.[/quote]This car fine die! Sai!!

kingreign:
if this is a 99-2003 Saab 9-5 2.3t model, I'd say avoid it. they usually have high engine failure rates. parts are also scarce.

Thank you for your advice.

I appreciate.

kingreign:
in subtle terms he has flee from the appearance of that Saab.

Lol...I have not...not even seen it, though I have made contact with the OP, who has direct links to the owner

EgunMogaji:
It’s strictly a location based thing.

A true professional can rebuild ANY engine. ANY.

As an Autoist I take pride in some of my 60+ year old vehicles having the original engine and transmission. “Matching numbers” have a value to some.

I agree with you.

I haven't seen my friend rebuild engines, I have watched him diagnose and resolve issues, if he follows such steps in rebuilding engines, following manufacturer information, using manufacturer tools and data, adding that to his residual mechanical/technical acumen, then there is no reason why he should not be a success. That was the basis of my conclusion.

The reason for #4 of my list is there is proper formal/technical/professional education on engine rebuilding for any who is interested in the States, and a very vibrant community of engine re-builders for sharing best-practices, to the best of my knowledge and belief these do not exist in Nigeria - that is certainly a reason for the lack of rebuilding expertise in Nigeria.

That and #7 (lack of the proper tools) and #9 (following a engine rebuild manual) may have caused him to fail though which takes us back to #4. Kashif who recently rebuild his transmission can attest to this, I can recall he had to undergo some training which was not sourced locally.

4, 7 AND 9 LISTED FOR REFERENCE

4. Doing so is both a science and an art, not everyone is a master at both, and we don't feel the need to specialize or become master engine re-builders, we don't believe that is where the money in this business lies and what is more, we have not invested in the education to make us great at this task


7. It is an exacting job that is unforgiving of mistakes, most of us are not that methodical and painstaking, we would suck at it, and we know it and so we had better not even try


9. our mates who do, do that without consulting documentation, and as a result such engines are not rebuilt to specification, and when they fail, we use those stories as warning to our clients that we don't want to do the same to your engine (but without the background that the job was not done properly and so it was bound to fail anywhere whereas were it done properly, it would be as good as a new engine)

LeJeun3:


Well said.....

Will like to add , few clients are willing to pay for the this service.


I had a sad experience once with 2 engine rebuilds, try as much as I did. Engine wouldn't come together, client was patient, till he lost patience.... (I was distraught thinking how I had failed myself). Client took it to another workshop, where i also do rebuilds unknown to him. Same experience I went through was what they experienced.


So I have drawn up an action plan....
1. Identify an engine fit for rebuild
2. Identify an engine fit for replacement

I have studied you from afar.

I know you must have done your best in the circumstances.

So we can add yet another reason to the list....Some engines are not worth the trouble of a rebuild, some are.

Professionalism includes finding out which is which.

Alanzazani:
Ok we have a deal..when you get back hit me up let's go.see the car

Contact made

Appointment awaited

EgunMogaji:
I'll rather have my guys sit and watch YouTube videos and/or rebuild power units (why we don't rebuild engines confuses me) than to take a job grudgingly and complain later.

We don't rebuild engines because

1. We can remove and replace the current engine in a day, maximum 2 days. You cannot rebuild an engine in that time. We want fast money, not money that takes too much time to make

2. We do not want liability....pass on the liability if the tokunbo engine fails to the part seller...but we can claim the workmanship a second time to install yet another engine if the previous tokunbo was not fit for purpose

3. The parts to rebuild the engine have to be sourced from overseas, it will take time and our clients are not willing to wait or we have schooled them to believe that tokunbo engines are just as good if not better

4. Doing so is both a science and an art, not everyone is a master at both, and we don't feel the need to specialize or become master engine rebuilders, we don't believe that is where the money in this business lies and what is more, we have not invested in the education to make us great at this task

5. It is a messy job, we would rather not be bothered

6. We do not have the right tools for the job and because it is not a profit center we do not want to invest in the tools for such jobs

7. It is an exacting job that is unforgiving of mistakes, most of us are not that methodical and painstaking, we would suck at it, and we know it and so we had better not even try

8. We believe the cost of getting most engines tokunbo is less than the cost of workmanship involved in tearing apart and giving the in-place engines a new lease of life

9. our mates who do, do that without consulting documentation, and as a result such engines are not rebuilt to specification, and when they fail, we use those stories as warning to our clients that we don't want to do the same to your engine (but without the background that the job was not done properly and so it was bound to fail anywhere whereas were it done properly, it would be as good as a new engine)

10. We don't want to use the client's engine to do a test run of our capabilities or the lack of it.

No matter the level of provocation - it is wrong to put out the name of a client without his expressly waiving his right to privacy.

In Nigeria, personally identifiable information (PII) is joked with, overseas it is not. A shop can get into bankruptcy if this were taken up.

I have seen technicians make mistakes...largely because they failed to research carefully from both open/free sources and closed/paid sources - call that doing your homework - in one case, I have called it out, in other case, I decided to let sleeping dogs lie.

One of the greatest mistakes of Nigerian technicians is failure to pay for information that is germane to fixing car problems, this is followed by unwillingness to buy the proper tools and unwillingness to upgrade their knowledge...because cars have changed a whole lot, continue to change a lot, and even what one knows about a car can change mid-season due to software upgrades to the same car to fix a problem post-manufacture - the only way to stay on top of this game is information and not all of it is freely accessible!

I have seen a technician/mechanic make a mistake that would have been avoided if he realized that there is only so little information in the open and far more information that is closed, and that the companies (read that to mean manufacturers) also spend a lot of money to produce this information and so expect to recoup that money from the users (technicians/mechanics/DIYers) and that access to that information would make him a better technician/mechanic.

Those in the trade know that what is in the open internet is but a small fraction of what can be found behind paywalls.

I have seen users scout the entire internet for repair information that can only be found behind paywalls and then come to nairaland to ask for help...expecting information others paid or are paying to access to handed over for free?

Are Nigerians willing to pay for technicians willing to make that investment in information and tools?

Is a technician or mechanic willing to address such a market only?

To what extent should the client be taught or schooled in what the technician wants to do to his vehicle?

This thread also bring to the fore the need to be able to tell a client in very clear terms not techspeak - this is wrong with your car, and this is how we are going to fix it.

It is a reminder to technicians/mechanics - you are being watched, and your methods and approaches could be subject to peer review - will they hold up?

Should a prospective client depend on the name and reputation of his technician and assume rightly or wrongly that if he or she has a name he can do no wrong?

That said, I think it is unethical to attack a technician/mechanic but it may be ethical in the interest of learning and discourse to show how his methods failed and why his methods failed and why your approach is better.

The problem though is here we see the hands of Esau but the voice of Jacob, who is better situated to explain how one method is better than the other, the technician or his client?

This is also an opportunity for the de-marketed technician/mechanic to prove his mettle because:

"Everybody in business shares one universal problem: to succeed you have to persuade others to support your vision, dream or cause." - Peter Guber

These are some of the questions/issues raised by this thread.

Nice work Costee, I too would have suspected the intelligent key module, your discovery about the knock sensor is why we have master specialists for brands, because while there are all cars, there are also very different from each other.

Kudos

2cicily:
Two dif auto elect scanned d vehicle.
Fuse box has been changed, and so far d car is moving fine. Noticed a lot of improvement now than before. Even the elect called me after a week to check on the car but all is well
Will come up with update if need be.

Thanks for contributions

Then most likely diagnosis on point...happy motoring

emidizy:
Do you have any branch in Enugu ?

Nope not in Enugu for now.

Based in Abuja.

Sometimes a vehicle has been so abused that the abuse destroys delicate circuits in the fusebox and so the fusebox has to go.

This is because the fusebox is like a switchboard for electrical signals in the vehicle. If the switchboard is messed up, how does it direct electrical traffic to the right recipient?

The fusebox is more than a switchboard though. It is also serves as a protective shield for the centralized electrical switchboard of the car (everything in one place versus everything everywhere) this makes it easier to protect the switchboard and to find out if things are out of order).

Some cars that have failed to start have been started once the fusebox was replaced, this indicates that although fuseboxes rarely fail, they can fail from electrical problems or physical damage.

With respect to your particular fault and the diagnosis, I can only comment specifically if I studied the vehicle wiring diagrams and conducted tests...which would have to be paid for.

The problem though may not be with the fusebox (but it could be) but I seriously doubt, it could also be with the wiring to the coils and between the coils and the ECU or even the ECU.

Did your tech use any diagnostic tool to talk to the car computer to point it to the direction of the fault so he could isolate the problem circuit and fix the problem?

What you need is a Peugeot specialist or someone who is a specialist mechanic in another brand who is willing to invest the time to look into your problem, possibly even use factory diagnostic equipment, consult manufacturer diagnostic literature, zero in on the problem and save you from this endless misery, that will not come cheap, but it will be money well-spent.

Someone asked a similar question. His question was

Why wont my citroen C2 start after changing fuse box? help?
The car is completely dead. Charged the battery up a bit as car lying in the cold for over a week. Lights, igniton etc came on before but wouldnt start so the AA told me I needed a new fusebox. Bought a new one and replace it now the car is dead, no light, ignition, nothing. Can anyone help diagnose the problem?
Update: The car started cutting out now and again and then wouldnt start. I called the AA and they towed car home and told me I needed new fusebox but now this is replace nothing happening. The AA only come out if ive broken down away from home and Ive already spent £240 on car and its just sitting doing nothing. Even my friend whos a mechanic doesnt know why it wont start. I will try fully charge the battery or buy a new one. AA didnt say any other probs except with fuse box. Said fuel going up pump but due to fuse box its not transmitting back again. Stumped as to why the car is completely dead, not even ignition lights coming on now whereas they were before the fusebox was replaced. The battery was dead though. My husband charged the battery but not fully. Yes wont be buying a french car again. Thanks everyone for you answers, appreciated.

and the reply he got was:

Modern cars DO NOT have conventional electrics controlling them, instead they have a MUCH more complicated multiplexed digital electrical network controlling them. This is not unique to french cars either, you will find it in almost all European cars, this is why European cars have so much more technology on them. In fact the electrics on your car are mostly German! (Bosch)

However, most people (like your mechanic friend, the AA man and all the other answerers of this question [except Steve J]) are blissfully unaware that cars underwent such a radical change almost 10 YEARS AGO! And so these people continue to offer horrendously inaccurate advice (the AA man's ignorance cost you £240) (if you listen to another answerer it will cost you almost £100 for a new battery)
Unfortunately because most people know even less about their car than the man offering the bad advice then they make the mistake of listening to him and it costs them a lot of money.

Now for the helpful bit. I specialise in modern car electrical problems and have been fully trained by Citroen, and have spent years successfully solving problems like yours day in-day out.

Firstly, your car has 2 fuse boxes, one is under the bonnet (PSF1) and one is under the dash behind the glovebox (BSI).
The PSF1 is the one that supplies power to the fuel pump, so i will assume that this is the fusebox the AA man said wasn't working. He was very probably wrong (the AA have a few very simple checks they do that cover most common problems, and this is one of them. Unfortunately in this case the check verifies nothing as the system does not work the way they think it does. AA men are not usually skilled at 'proper' diagnostic work)
On your car the various computers have to decide to turn the fuel pump on, if they decide that the immobiliser should still be armed then they will supply power to lights, wipers etc but they will not supply power to the fuel pump or engine etc. So a simple check can reveal the fusebox is not powering up the pump, but this does not mean the fusebox is faulty, it means "why is the fusebox not AUTHORISING power to the pump?" The fault will lie deeper within the computers, if i was able to plug a Citroen diagnostic tool into your car and interrogate it then i would be able to read hundreds of different parameters and from that information i could tell you where the fault lies (it will be something simple and fairly cheap, it usually is) Since i can't do that you will have to bite the bullet and get the car to a GOOD Citroen dealership somehow.

The reason that your car is worse since you replaced the fusebox is because the fusebox is a computer that needs to be configured and programmed by Citroen's diagnostic tool. Once this is done the fusebox will work correctly (although i suspect you will still have your original problem as the fusebox wasn't at fault).
My advice is to swap the old fusebox back onto the car (much easier and cheaper than going to Citroen)

Remember, the only people that REALLY know about your car electrics are Citroen Consultant/Senior technicians, even a master tech for another manufacturer will not know the details about your Citroen. So it is always better in the long run to just take it to a Citroen dealer in the first place, at least then you will not waste hundreds of pounds on parts that will not fix it. If the dealer makes a mistake and replaces the wrong part you do not have to pay as it is their fault and they should know better. I know the dealer is usually more expensive, but with problems like this they will be a lot cheaper than allowing ignorant people the opportunity to compound your problems!

I hope this is helpful to anyone that reads this and has some sort of electrical issues with their car.

Where are you located? Did you go ahead with the replacement of the fusebox?

Jazzlite:
Where can I get the right oil? At okitipupa? Apart from the normal Mobil one or total quartz 9000?

I think you are good to go with the Mobil 1 sold in Nigerian petrol stations

See pictures taken of the specifications

Some also ask for police extract

Alanzazani:
Ok we have a deal..when you get back hit me up let's go.see the car

I am back, hit me up

Try Costee

Dwightventures:
Hello ladies and gents. Please help me solve this once and for all: a handle "AutoElectNG" sent me a PM but as has been the case, i get a notification and get told that since I'm not connected, i would have to reply on my e-mail. It never works. I never get to read the PM. Pls help with the following:

1. Pls tell the said person to e-mail me direct at dwightventures@gmail.com (anyone knows the person? )

2. Pls can anyone advise me how to get future pms directly? I've been using other forums for a long time before nairaland and never encountered this challenge

Thanks

Email sent

Jazzlite:
Even when not recommended for your vehicle?

There is an American law that requires that a manufacturer cannot lock you in with his parts, that is why we have OEM and aftermarket parts, provided it meets or exceeds manufacturer specifications, you are good to go

OgaKazeem:
ok
but then does it make sense using iridium on a 1999 vehicle?

If it's available why not

OgaKazeem:
i thot they said Iridium plugs r the best? now m getting confused o. so my question is do some spark plugs carry more current thereby ensuring better combustion than someothers?

Go the their website https://www.boschautoparts.com/en/ provide your vehicle details

They do not have iridium for all vehicles, I'm that case, you have to make do with platinum.

mayor2013:
Yes. Have been using this installed 4pcs on a Honda Accord 2008 3years ago. Car came back to us for another work recently inspected spark plugs and they are all still very much intact. Car is stationed at Enugu. A trial would convince you

I am a fan of brand new Bosch Double Platinum plugs, they have unleashed the dragon in a ride I used them in. Combine them with new ignition coils and/or spark plug wires for best results

Jakumo:
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You need to go via the mandatory "As Usual" protocol, to get your Nigerian driving licence. No money, no show for you.



"As Usual" refers to the usual bribe that MUST be paid, if you hope to get your new licence before year 2032.

Find out who is to be bribed, and how much to pay, then pay the money for quick delivery of your licence, as usual.

Anyone unwilling to go the as usual way will be punished with the greatest severity by wasting their precious time thereby forcing submission to Nigerian way once frustration sets in.

adebobconed:
In my opinion, cooling fans are working fine bro
they are blowing well, spinning very fast and are blowing inwards.
I tried inspecting some hoses in the cooling system while engine was idling and the A/C was on; as the A/C was cooling, the lower radiator hose gradually got warm but it later became hot to the touch, temperature gauge rose to near middle mark too.
I stopped engine when I discovered the lower radiator hose was getting hot

No visible leakage observed in cooling system too

Bolded can be confirmed by monitoring coolant temperature value with a scan tool with A/C in operation. What you have said is conjecture or subjective. You will see temperatures go above or close to 240 degrees and then will be rediced by increased fan speeds to about 175 to 195 or 210 depending on the vehicle if everything is ok.

OgaKazeem:
Pls what does the image of this plugs tell you about the engine?

Angle does not let me inspect the central electrode, just the ground electrode and the metal threaded shell.

But from what I have seen...it looks golden tan/brown which is a good color, looks like it has been in service for a while and deposits have formed....can I have a better look at the central electrode before, I say more?

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