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Seun:
If God existed, he would have taught them a thing or two about forensics because the commandment didn’t stop bad people from giving false testimonies. Modern research has shown that even honest testimonies are not very reliable because people often remember things incorrectly.

Mr Seun, would you consider this thought?
"If contrary to my position, God existed, wouldn't my intellect on the scale of His be so infinitesimal, that it would only spell an utter embarrassment to His personality, and a pride on my part to think that I could be the one who knows better as to instruct him on the best way to administer justice?"

Forensics, you pointed that out as something that would have helped to avert a case of people bearing false testimonies out of their wickedness right?

You have to recognize here that the real problem you're trying to guard against is a man's wickedness against his neighbour, and merely ruling out the testimony option doesn't fix that.

As you probably know, there are several other instances recorded in the scriptures where people have plotted evil against other men, without having to resort to the use of false testimonies. Haman against Mordecai, Absalom against David, etc.

So, even if God had decided to work with the available technology of those times, to establish forensics, it's certain it wouldn't have fixed the root cause of the abuse of the testimony concept-which is the evil nature of the hearts of men.

freeman67:
It depends how long you want to keep the money. FGN Savings Band has minimum of 2yrs and maximum of 3yrs tenure while TB has minimum of 91days(3 months) & maximum of 364days(1year) tenure. Between March-May last year when Feb Savings Bond started the rate was about 13.18% & 14.18 for the 2 & 3 years tenure. Then TB rate was about 17-18% for 364days tenure.
The last offer for 2-Year FGN Savings Bond due February 14, 2020: was 10.277% per annum. The last offer for 3-Year FGN Savings Bond due February 14, 2021: 11.277% per annum.
While the last TB auction offered 13-13.7% depending on your bank.

FGN Savings Bond interest is paid quarterly while the upfront TB interest can be reinvested almost immediately or used to solved other issues as soon as your investment starts counting.

If you invest in FGN Savings Bond your interest rate stands that way till its expiration/maturity of either 2 or 3 years depending on the tenure you choose. However if you invest in TB the rate may not be same for next year if you intend to reinvest. It could be higher or lower so the choice is your.

Thanks Oga Freeman. The poster should also know that whereas T-bills are purchasable at any bank on any given day, he will likely need a brokerage account to do those bonds, and their subscriptions are often only open during the 2nd week of each month.

On behalf of myself, and everyone else who feels the need for an apology on some of the funny words with which you've been addressed here lately, I say WE'RE VERY SORRY SIR. Just overlook like the mature boss that you are. Your contributions here are invaluable.

@Engr Tony, Didn't you say you'd no longer take the week-long break? Where have you been sir?

Seun:
Do people really think his curses, which are at odds with the teachings of Jesus in the gospels about blessing your enemies, are effective?

He has decreed death on so many groups of bad people; how many of them have actually died, though? (this is a honest question)

You know I mentioned this. There are principles guiding making a confession or a decree as a Christian. When you do such, there are supernatural forces that get set in motion to work out the manifestation of your utterance. But those forces are yet subject to God's permission before they can set out to work.

So when you make a decree, you have to be certain that God has permitted for you to make that decree at such point in time. Then you need to have the faith that your decree is already established at that instant.

If I made a decree that ....... will happen to Seun by ....., if God knowing more about the future than I do, already sees Seun as a Pastor by.... Then it's obvious, he won't permit for such a decree from me to get established.

Seun:
What is the micro-chip used for? The idea that some people will be saved by refusing to take "the mark" is poorly thought through since they can be drugged and given the mark whether they want it or not. Why would the evil "antichrist"respect anyone's wish to abstain from the mark?

Nothing is poorly thought bro.
Just as it is with salvation, God has left the choice entirely up to you. That's one if the reasons He won't appear in the sky to convince you as you expect.

I expect you'd be familiar with buying and selling. one important feature of these activities his that it involves the FREEWILL of both the buyer and seller to give one thing in exchange for another. Nobody forces anything on anyone.

So it is with the mark. Whoever chooses to accept it will simply be trading his soul for the comfort of that time. It's because the beasts is involved in a trade of buying souls that makes it invalid for him to force his mark on anyone. I hope you've been more enlightened in this regard.

You may however want to accept Jesus, so you don't get to be a part of that should rapture happen sooner than later.

Seun:
Yes. As long as people think it works, because of stories they've been told and movies they've watched, they will continue to do it.
Those who have tried it and been failed by it can't go about telling people, "we ritually murdered someone but it didn't work".

Dear Seun, I am sorry to say, but I think your assertion is very wrong? People don't keep doing something just because they think it works, if they keep doing it, it's surely cos it works, if it stops working, you see people ditch it.

While MMM lasted, why did people keep putting money into it, surely cos it paid. And why did they stop putting money into it. Surely cos it stopped paying.

Or those who take drugs, why do you think they keep asking for some particular drugs? surely cos everytime they've taken it, it has worked.

So don't be uninformed Bro Seun, the metaphysical exists for sure.

Dear bright darkchild64,
You mentioned that the fact that Jesus cursed a tree, and also the fact that the Bible sanctions slavery are some of the reasons why you won't want to base your life on the Christian standard.
1. on the tree cursing, I have explained that first, it's just tree. As humans, we do even worse things to them as we convert them for our use. Then I pointed that the crux of the story was to demonstrate to Christians the possibility of getting things to happen by their utterance. So you really shouldn't make so much of a deal off it.

2. on Bible slaves. As I've mentioned, every evidence points to the fact that they were basically the employees of those times. So ad far as you don't see any wrong in modern-day employments, I think you also shouldn't see any wrong in it. I cited an instance where a slave master wanted to leave his entire estate to his slave, and another where a slave's job was basically that of an asset manager, so it's really wasn't as bad as you picture.
And above all, we Christians of nowadays don't buy slaves. If YAHWEH was as cruel as you're viewing Him to be, He couldn't be pleased with us modern-day Christians who don't own slaves. But alas, He is pleased with us. It's alright for us to own employees though.

So I think you should get born again, and you think I should abandon my faith. Would you be willing to let us both highlight the pros and cons of both choices, to see if we can settle at a common ground?

I hope your day went great.

mamateniola1:
Hummmm... I don read tire. Weldone guys. So I was at FBN today. The lady said TB will be open again by next week and I shld check on Friday to fill the forms. She said last week was 15%. Now, I intend putting in 600k for 6months. Pls how much will this give me? Then is 6months not too much? Can I visit stanbic too and fill form then go for the highest rate? Pls I suck in calculation. I can't even count to save my life. Pls help. I am a first time investor.

You have to make your choice upfront.
Should you want to try both banks, you'd have to have 600k in each account. 1.2m in total. And once the bid pulls through, you can no longer decide against the investment on the grounds on low rate. You'd have to do a premature termination to pull out.

Anyways, for sec market, use FBN, and use Stanbic for the primary market. If you choose to go vice versa, the difference in rates won't be material especially on the size of your principal.

darkchild64:
I don't have any other thing to say to you,if you read all those passages I quoted and you still think that the slavery in the bible is RIGHT then its of no use for me to argue with you,if you still insist on arguing what you should do is to pick those passages one by one and tell us how those laws are RIGHT

Should I want to be an atheist like yourself, could you please highlight some of the things I stand to gain.

Gen 15
2. But Abram said, "Lord GOD, what can You give me, since I am childless, and the heir of my house is Eliezer of Damascus?"
3. Abram continued, "Look, You have given me no offspring, so a slave born in my house will be my heir"

DEAR DARKCHILD, THE ABOVE PASSAGE IS TO GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF RELATIONSHIP SLAVES MASTERS OF THAT TIME HAD WITH THEIR SLAVES.

HAD ABRAM DIED WITHOUT A CHILD, HE WOULD HAVE LEFT EVERYTHING HE OWNED- a great amount of possessions- TO HIS SLAVE. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU OF THE KIND OF RELATIONSHIP THEY HAD?

What I fear more is currency devaluation. Without it, inflation would be lower and its effects would be mild.

Most of the significant price surges have been caused more by currency devaluation.

More like Christians would explain it to those who would take the wrong view of it.

@hopefulLandlord, please tell Seun when you see him, that I pray God blesses him. God bless you too landlord, and God bless you for having been very resourceful dear bright darkchild. You all have an amazing week in Jesus' name. Love you all.
Regards to all your other folks too. Anonymous and all. I don't know too many of them though.

Why do you think I disagree on your positions?
It's not because I practice Christianity as a religion as you suppose.

It's basically because, having had a real knowledge and experience on whom Yahweh is, I know any view of Him being unjust in any way can only be a falsity or at best a misconception.

In your own case, it's a misconception. Think of all those passages you quoted as the labor laws of the time, and the slavery as employment. I have given you instances that confirm that slaves were basically the equivalent of modern day employees.

So, I know Yahweh well enough to know that these allegations you're raising against His personality are totally false, and are based on misconception.

Since you're so familiar with the scriptures, can you find any place in the old testament, where a non-family member of a man, was engaged in service to him, without being a slave of the man?

RIGHT SIR.

Alikote:
made over 3 m from dangote flour with just few hunderd of thousand

wow, that's some profit. do you mind stating your entry time and price?

Who in his right senses would put just a few millions in the money market and expect to live off the meagre proceeds?

For us, it's not a choice between T-bills and business, it's rather a choice over low-return deposit accounts, or over other riskier asset classes.

Meanwhile, FSDH released a report on returns on the 10 most capitalised stocks on the NSE over a 10-year timeframe. Despite the huge returns on those stocks, compound interest at 15% average still beats 3 out of the 10.

Compound interest is a great amplifier over the long term.

Emmanystone:
You want to see that atheists are satanists? Open a thread against satan and watch.

JUST FOR SAKE OF OTHERS WHO MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN MY POST WRONG AS YOU HAVE,

I DIDN'T MEAN SATAN, I MEANT SANTA CLAUS- father Christmas. That's what I wrote.

On your post regarding Numbers 31,
Check the first post on page 10 of this thread, It's on the instruction for war to the ISRAELI ARMY.
Now, you'll notice that the soldiers followed the stated pattern by killing only males, and leaving the women and children.
It was a later instruction that made them extend the killing to the women and male infants. In this case, it was vengeance being taken against them for their prior plots against Israel. And surely that's more to it than the available details in that chapter.
Now since you claimed that it was written by the men of that time who considered slavery normal, why did they include this part that contains infant killing too? was it because they considered it normal too, when obviously they wrote a pattern for war that says that women and infants should not be killed at war?
You see that your claim on the Bible being fiction doesn't hold now.

REMEMBER THERE'S ALWAYS IDEAL AND REAL. IT'S IN THEORIES AND FICTIONS THAT THINGS CAN BE MADE TO APPEAR IDEAL, BUT HAVING PERCEIVED SHORTCOMINGS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CHARACTERIZE REALNESS.

First, let's establish a clear fact:
I AM NOT DEFENDING SLAVERY OR JUSTIFYING IT.
YOU PEOPLE QUOTED A CHAPTER OF THE BIBLE THAT TALKED ABOUT A MAN SELLING OFF HIS DAUGHTER AS A SLAVE, AND RATHER THAN CHOOSING TO BLAME THE MAN, YOU DECIDED THAT IT WAS YAHWEH THAT WAS TO BLAME. SO:
1. I highlighted the fact that any man who would ever do such a thing was the one that should take the blame, and not Yahweh.
2. Then you mentioned that being a just God, he should have condemned the act. Then I responded that first, if a man would be cruel and irresponsible enough to want to sell his own daughter into slavery, then it's definitely best to met such a child leave the father.
3. Then looking at the part where the Bible mentioned that someone broke the terms and another part that says a slave should be freed in the 7th year he's been with the master, except he chooses to continue in the master's service, I pointed out to you that such a slave wasn't acquired in the class of a farm animal it machine, explaining that it was basically an arrangement, whereby someone gets to pay for and use another man's service and time for 6 years. Quite similar to the labour employment of our time.
4. You highlighted the part where it was stated that the master could whip the slave, and not be condemned, then I stated that since that was common knowledge, whoever agrees to yet sign into such a relationship is on his own.

5. I gave the examples of the duties performed by slaves like Joseph, and Abraham's to show you that their engagements as Slaves was basically the equivalent of the employments of our time.

6. Note that it was also stated that if a man acquired a female slave(similar to hiring a female employee), he may be willing to arrange for his own son to marry her. This also highlights the fact that those slaves were actually employees of their owners rather than people considered inferior and placed in the category of animals.

SO I DIDN'T TRY TO JUSTIFY ANY WRONG THING, I JUST SAW THAT YOU HAD A WRONG PERCEPTION OF A BIBLE PORTION, AND I HAD TO PAINT YOU THE TRUE PICTURE.

Now on the fact the the slavery mentioned in the Bible is different from your definition,
Consider Joseph, wasn't he sold a slave to Potiphar? Yet what do the scriptures say of his experience at Potiphar's? His services were so high class that it was basically full management of all of the man's enterprise. isn't that different from getting used as a donkey as you pictured? How was Joseph as a slave to Potiphar different from an asset manager of our own time, appointed by a high-networth individual. That's a job people would apply to with their masters and professional certifications, yet that was what Joseph had to do being a slave.

OR the guy that got ISAAC his wife, think about such kind of duties the master appointed him to, and see how very far it is from the animalistic usage you assume of him.

darkchild64:
Exodus 21:20-21 New International Version (NIV)
"Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.

So in this passage the bible says a slave owner can whip his slave as much as he wants and would only bear any form of punishment if the slave dies,this one is not like the previous law about a man selling his daughter into slavery this is Yahweh condoning people whipping other human beings,and to make matters worse in the last phrase the bible justifies that by conceding that the slave is the owner's property
And you are telling me that the slavery described in the bible is not the same as the one we know

WHO MADE THE MAN A SLAVE TO ANOTHER? WASN'T IT HIS FATHER OR HIMSELF OR A CHOICE BOTH OF THEM VOLUNTARILY DECIDED ON? WAS IT NOT CLEARLY SPELT IN THE TERMS THAT THE MASTER WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO WHIP THE SLAVE, YET A MAN DECIDED TO GIVE HIS CHILD OR HIMSELF TO SUCH TERMS. YOU'LL ONLY HAVE A CASE IF YOU CAN FIND A REFERENCE TO THE FACT, THAT GOD RATHER THAN THE ONES CONCERNED DECIDED THAT A PERSON SHOULD BE A SLAVE.

IF YOU GO TO PICK A JOB WITH INDIANS, AND THEY TELL YOU: "WHEN YOU SUFFER A WORK ACCIDENT, WE WON'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR TREATMENT, RATHER, WE'LL HAVE TO DISMISS YOU AS YOU WILL NO LONGER BE USEFUL TO OUR OPERATIONS". IF HAVING BEEN TOLD BEFOREHAND, YOU STILL PROCEED WITH THE DEAL, WHO IS TO BLAME?
THE GOVERNMENT?

savewelllivewel:
Please I also need assistance on how to calculate compound interest e.g for N3m @ 13.5 for two years. Please I am a little confused, I dnt want to mislead a client. Thanks everyone for your usual assistance.

someone who could be confused about this kinda calculation. Should you be leading a client as per investment, would it be better to refer them to expert advisers?

hopefulLandlord:
I find it spooky how you are mentioning "Old Testament" when criticising biblical slavery like the new testament condemned it or something

Slavery is fully endorsed both in new and old testament bro

JUST LIKE YOU DON'T ADVOCATE THAT COMPANIES WHO KEEP FOLKS IN THEIR SERVICE FOR SEVERAL YEARS WITH FIXED LOW PAY, YOU DON'T ADVOCATE THAT THEY'D BE CLOSED UP, DO YOU?
OF COURSE YOU SHOULDN'T, BECAUSE JUST AS IT WAS WITH THOSE SLAVE MASTERS IN THE BIBLE, THESE EMPLOYERS DID NOT KIDNAP THE WORKERS, BOTH PARTIES, JUST AS IN THE CASE OF THE SLAVES AND THEIR MASTERS, ENTERED TO A MUTUALLY AGREED CONTRACT. THE SLAVES WOULD GIVE THEIR TIME AND ENERGY/INTELLECT, IN RETURN FOR THE MASTER'S PAYMENT. TELL ME WHAT EXACTLY IS WRONG IN THAT? PLEASE JUST MENTION WHAT IT IS YOU FIND WRONG IN THE SLAVE DEAL.

darkchild64:
How would you feel if you were a slave,and your worth as a human being was comparable to money?

I mean you are being sold like a commodity,the last thing you should do is justify slavery,slavery was worse back then than even in the 18th century

There you go,
What was described in the Bible text you quoted doesn't involve selling someone as a commodity. It is basically buying/selling a person's service for 6 full years. In the 7th year the person should be relieved of the deal except he chooses to continue in the master's service. THINK NOW BRO, IF IT WAS THE TERRIBLE KIND OF SLAVERY YOUR MIND PICTURES, WHY WOULD ANY ONE WANT TO CONTINUE WHEN HIS TIME IS UP.

The word slave doesn't always translate to a human acquired in the class of a machine or farm animal as you picture. Some people regard some full time jobs in Nigeria as pure slavery, because to them, getting a person's service under the given conditions-long hours, low pay, zero benefits- is their definition of slavery.

THE SLAVERY MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE IS OBVIOUSLY NOT THE TYPE YOU PICTURE, AS IT WAS MENTIONED TO BE ONE WHICH A MAN WOULD BE WILLING TO CONTINUE IN. NOT SO WITH YOUR OWN TYPE THOUGH.

IN CASE YOU WANT TO SAY "SLAVERY IS SLAVERY", as I'd expect, I HAVE ASKED THAT YOU DEFINE WHAT YOU THINK SLAVERY IS, THEN WE'LL SEE THAT WHAT YOU PICTURE IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE.

darkchild64:
Am happy that finally you are trying to be reasonable.
The bible was written by iron age men who thought that slavery was moral and therefore they made laws on its regulation,now humanity has grown older and we realize that slavery does more harm than good(if any) hence it has become abolished,so your point doesn't stand,the bible represent the standard of morality of the age it was written,like I said earlier slavery was accepted at the time the old testament was written hence the authors didn't know it was wrong,if they did they wouldn't have wrote those stuff
And to your last paragraph, are you admitting that the bible is not perfect because you are really confusing right now. See my thought bro,I think that if the bible was divinely inspired every part of it would be perfect and if it was solely a work of humans you would be able to see loopholes like the one I showed you

P.S what is your view on the Koran divinely inspired or fiction ?
And why?

Please note the fact that I put "QUESTIONABLE ATTRIBUTES" in quotes in my post. That's because I only used the phrase to refer to the perception of you atheist. But in the real sense, there are actually no questionable attributes.

Now to address this slavery issue you've raised, I need to know WHAT'S YOUR DEFINITION OF A SLAVE?

Meant to quote your post before the last in my previous post.
on your last post,
Think about the slavery issue from another point?
Maybe now, we have become so developed as to see it as being this horrible. How can you be sure it was that horrible at those old times?

Maybe buying a slave was just about buying a man's service and time for 7 years.

IF IN 2 CENTURIES FROM NOW, THE HUMAN SOCIETY HAS BECOME SO DEVELOPED SUCH THAT IT LOOKS SO HORRIBLE THAT ANYONE WOULD ASK HIS FELLOW HUMAN TO WORK IN HIS EMPLOYMENT? WOULD ANY ATHEIST OF THAT TIME BE RIGHT IN ASKING WHY GOD DIDN'T FORBID EMPLOYMENT BY FELLOW MEN FOR THE PEOPLE OF OUR GENERATION?

darkchild64:
What stops Yahweh from saying

"A man is not to sell his daughter into slavery,whosever does such has committed an abomination before me"

If Yahweh really regarded a man selling his daughter into slavery Exodus 21 vs 7 will look more like the statement above rather than


“When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not satisfy her owner, he must allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. But if the slave’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave but as a daughter.

You are on your own.
Meanwhile, it is only common sense to realize that IF THE BIBLE WAS ACTUALLY FASHIONED BY SOME MEN TO DECEIVE THE WORLD ABOUT A GOD, THEY WOULD NEVER NEVER NEVER, AND AGAIN NEVER PRESENT ANY "QUESTIONABLE ATTRIBUTE" ABOUT HIM. ALL THE SIDES OF HIM PRESENTED WOULD BE PERFECT.

BUT THE BIBLE IS TRUE AND NOT FICTION, WHICH IS WHY SOME THINGS MAY NOT APPEAR AS YOU'D WANT.

hadow:
sure God's power can flow through such 'mantles', like the case of the woman but that is for those who need a physical manifestation of Faith. But when you have a "Man of God" use it u should suspect foul play. Because what stops him from praying for the person directly. if it is in terms of a crowd fine u might not be able to pray for all directly then he might decide to use those mantles but that doesn't take away the fact that the bible says and I quote "these signs shall follow them that believe" and not they that believe shall follow signs

Alright, I get you.

butterflyl1on:
They will tell you that there are 4000 + other gods but for some strange reason out of this 4000 + other gods they have only superglued themselves to Yahweh despite claiming he does not exist. They spend their entire day lamenting and lamenting and typing up long epistles about this God who they already said does not exist while not once mentioning the other so called 4000 + other gods.

It's sad to watch them being psychotic yet claiming we are the delusional ones. I am so sure that even when they look into their own mirrors what they see is Yahweh and not themselves. It's as bad as that now.

They know the truth but deny it by constantly nagging and nagging. Na dem sabi.

You're minding them? If they truly didn't believe in God's existence, should they not consider it an utter waste of their precious time and intellect debating on what doesn't exist? but no, Seun will make 7 out of every 10 posts on the Christian God. Doesn't that prove already that he believes in His existence, and is only trying to lead folks astray from Him.
If something isn't existent let alone important, should it even take 2% of your attention, let alone a whopping 70%?

FINALLY WHY DON'T THEY SPEND MUCH TIME TRYING SO HARD TO CONVINCE FOLKS AGAINST SANTA'S EXISTENCE?
They answer 'believing in Santa doesn't cost people as the Christian faith does?'

But that'd be an assumption and are all the other wrong things they think of christianity.

Even if it did cost, why wail? are we paying the price from your pocket? it's only them you see lamenting so bitterly over tithe that's paid with money that doesn't even belong to them. but when people pay taxes without getting any dividend, they don't rant at all.

NOW THE REAL REASON THEY DON'T HAVE TO CONVINCE FOLKS AGAINST BELIEVING IN SANTA IS THAT YOU'LL HARDLY EVEN FIND ANY ONE WHO EVEN BELIEVES IN HIM TO BEGIN WITH, SINCE NO ONE HAS A REAL EXPERIENCE WITH HIM.

REAL CHRISTIANS HAVE REAL EXPERIENCE WITH GOD, AND THAT RATHER THAN THE FEAR OF HELL, OR ANYTHING ELSE, IS WHAT REINFORCES OUR FAITH.

darkchild64:
Lol is that all yo have to say,since you are shying away let me open the discussion even more,you must justify this bible passage

Exodus 21:7-11 New Living Translation (NLT)
“When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not satisfy her owner, he must allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. But if the slave’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave but as a daughter.

We are to assume that the habit of men selling their daughters as slaves was present,now Yahweh who is supposed to be omniscient decides to talk about it and the above is what he says,this is shameful,Christians I understand that you people have no choice but to defend the bible,but this passage is utterly shameful,not to talk of the misogyny in the passage,in fact I should create a thread dedicated to this passage

Go ahead and create the thread man. There is nothing like defending anyone here. You're not not seeing the clear picture. IT'S A MAN WHO WANTS TO SELL OFF HER DAUGHTER, IT'S NOT GOD SELLING THE DAUGHTER, NEITHER IS HE THE ONE INSTRUCTING FOR THE DAUGHTER TO BE SOLD. SO IF YOU USE A SUBJECTIVE VIEW, AND THEREBY ATTEMPT CASTING UNNECESSARY BLAME, YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN.

AND I'VE TOLD YOU, IF THERE'S A MAN THAT'S CRUEL ENOUGH TO WANT TO SELL OFF HIS DAUGHTER, YOU HAD BETTER LET HIM GO AHEAD. SO THAT YOU EXPECT GOD TO STOP HIM IS UTTERLY IMMATERIAL. YOUR VIEW ON THE MATTER IS ONLY INCOMPLETE.

dalaman:
You have allowed others to reason for you so much so that you can not live without their imaginary and mythical thoughts and ideas. You can not compare nairaland with the God idea. Everybody here including you KNOWS and acknowledges that nairaland belongs to Seun Osewa. His objective signature is on nairaland stating very clearly in bold that he owns nairaland. He has a UNIQUE moniker(No other moniker called Seun exist here on nairaland ) and uses his monikers to communicate wit people here. He uses the moniker to seek for employees (moderators), make special announcements, engage people directly in ways through which everybody including you knows that it is him.

What about God? We have so many of them. None of them has any of their names or signature in nature in an objective way stating that they own anything. All we have are diffrent believers telling us that it is thir own version of God that owns the universe. How did you get to know that the planet we live in was created hy Yahweh and not Brahma? Over a billion people in the world today claim that Brahma created the universe, do you have any evidence apart from empty words to show that It is your own God that created the universe and not Brahma. If you try to seriously claim that nairaland is owned by someone else and not Seun and insisit that Seun is an impostor you will be banned for life and any moniker that you open will also be banned for life.

God is a human idea that is why different humans have conceived of different God ideas throughout history. Your own is just one out of the many ideas that have been conceived. Even within your religion there are many different concepts and ideas of how God should be and behave. That is why we have very different sects with totally different beliefs about how your God should behave and act. Take the mordern day word of faith property gospel Christians and the traditional christians and see how different they feel God should act or behave. That alone is enough evidence to show you that bit is all a man made venture.

Seun exist and has a unique moniker here on nairaland that nobody else has. His signature and status as owner exist and nobody can claim that nairaland is owned by someone else . God on the other hand depends on whose story you are listening to. The muslims insist that the universe belong to their God, the Hindus claim the same, the Taoist make the same claim, christians also, etc. Every culture and every group keep insisting that it is their own version and idea of God that owns the universe, none of them has been able to provide any evidence to support their claims.

Seun uses his moniker to make direct comments here on nairaland. As for God it all depends on who you are listening to. Even believers can not tell you exactly the message their God is sending. Just take an example with the speaking in tongues thread here and see how sincere christians are all disagreeing with each other on what the bible really says about speaking in tongues. No agreement at all, only disagreement and even name calling among themselves while laying claim to this holy spirit of confusion. No such thing has ever happened to any of Seun's messages here on nairaland. Go to the thread and use the holy spirit to end the dispute and disagreement btw your fellow christians on the true biblical position on speaking in tongues. Shebi you always insist that you have the holy spirit, will you go there and demonstrate that this your holy spirit is real and not a figment of your deluded imaginations? Put your money where your mouth is and go there and settle the disagreement using the holy spirit let's see how far you'll go. Show some actions, we are tired of your empty claims.

I can insist that Allah is God and that the universe belongs to him and nothing will ever happen to me. I can insist that the uinverse has no owner and nothing will ever happen to me. Try and insisit that someone else owns nairaland or claim that Seun doesn't own nairaland with all seriousness and see what will happen to you.

WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD, IT'S YAHWEH, and not BRAHMAN, YOU FOLKS TRY TIRELESSLY TO CONVINCE FOLKS AGAINST. EVEN THOUGH NIGERIA CHRISTIAN POPULATION IS JUST ABOUT 50%, WHY ARE OVER 90% OF POSTS BY FOLKS LIKE YOU DIRECTED SOLELY AGAINST THE CHRISTIAN GOD AND CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES?-YAHWEH, JESUS, PASTORS, CHRISTIANS, TITHES, etc.


IT'S BECAUSE CHRISTIANITY IS THE ONLY TRUE WAY, AND YIU FOLKS KNOW IT SO WELL, SO WHY MAKE EFFORTS AT CONVINCING PEOPLE AGAINST ANY OTHER WAY BUT THE RIGHT ONE?