ladiguy:
Na your daddy tell you this story?

guy, do a little reading. iim no dey kill

PrinceOgun:


Oyo was never an empire bro just a gang of slave sellers

go and read ur history again. the oyo empire was the most organized, successful and the largest empire in the black race. they spawn through d present SW of nigeria to togo and benin republic. controlled by the feared alaafin

from history, the awori's are the original settlers in lagos. and the awori's are yorubas. at the height of their power, the benins ravaged through yoruba kingdom conquering the oyo empire and the aworis, making lagos a slave camp. the British came in, submerged the benin kingdom. this weakens the kingdom and her influence dwindled.

to say the benins owned lagos is obnoxious. even looking at it geographically, lagos couldn't belong to them coz they need to pass tru the oyo empire then and the benins are nt known for their prowess of the sea-coz dat is d only logical way to settle in lag without passing tru d oyo empire.

jst tired of dis "who own lagos" topic. if d benin or d ijaws or d igbos own lagos, to whose benefit? let d binins fly frm benin without passing tru d yoruba territory to stamp their authority on lagos. if 9ja split today, who do u think will have Lag? or will dey split lagos along with SS or SE?

cummando:
She Go still die last last

diagnosis: suffering from sophisticated ignorance

Kyase:
i feel like calling somebody idiot this morning.

nobody will beat u if u call urself dat nw

are u trying to say mr president don embezzle 9ja money to fund is latest and more fashionable farm canvas?
but 9ja ppl oooo, i don travel frm uyo to calaba, ph to onitsha. i don travel tru abia, imo, anambra, delta, edo, ondo, ekiti, osun, oyo..... i'm yet to see any federa project gulping the over #6 trillion naira budget ooo. na only north d budget dey fund?

Opp u ar nt only fantastic. .....u ar coksitic. nice work boss

GraGra247:


Its not a rubbish post. He has a point. They may not be totally comparable but there are similarities.

I've heard countless real life stories and news of horror maltreatments and beating of househelps over time till they eventually slumped and died. Isn't that slavery enough?

Those news stories that even made it to nairaland of servants burnt with hot electric iron, scorged with live wire till skin peels all over, beaten with iron rod till skull is broken.

Are these not slavery enough?

Is it until it gets to Libya and only then it becomes slavery.

na u get time to answer him. tell him to visit d "Asian slavery camps" called companies in lagos and IB to know dat most nigerians ar slaves. the funniest thing is dat most police officers, politicians and traditional rules ar in it with dis ppl

i think in terms of infrastructures, d SS leads. but in terms of human development, SW n SE leads. while in terms of Social and business development SW is d Boss

addikt:



OAU isn't as beautiful as unilorin,although beautiful but it's of more old buildings !

boss fear God nw.....OAU surpasses ilorin in terms of beauty n building infrastructure nw......d only rival to OAU in beauty n building infrastructure is ABU**among federal unis though**

fellow nairalanders, is FUTA post graduate form still on sale? pls anyone who resides on campus shud pls help me with dis info asap.

Congratulations Mr Al-amin.wishing u more success in ur endeavors.

with respect to NNPC GM, i beleive dis is part of the stunt nepotism most southerners are complaining about. year in and out, academic records ar broken and nw academic feats ar achieved by nigerian students in southern unis. i believe packages like dis shud b made available for all unis so as ti encourage 9ja students to strive to b d best for a great nigeria.

total crap...... do u know d funniest thing about 9ja politics, d bad ones outlive d good ones....muritala was assassinated, yaradua died frm a horrible sickness. the obasanjos, buharis, atikus,Ibb, shagaris, tinubus, etc ar all still alive still steering d affairs of dis nation into oblivion. same logic apply to oda 9ja professions on dat list.

for 9ja sane rules does nt apply. even the natural rules. dat is hw lawless our country is even nature recognizes dat.

moreover there is one tin i want most ppl to understand. .....d believe dat good beget good and bad beget bad is a fallacy. ......this is a theory dat has been proven wrong over d years. take nigeria and oda african countritas a case study.

i'm jst tired of listening to the senseless miscreants of IPOB supporters. they jst want to open their mouths and say something- usually unapologetic nonsense

i believe i was expecting dis to happen. as a matter of fact apc can neva win in anambra. but was surprise dey ar up in nunbers agaist pdp. dis shows that with a little fight frm apc next general election, they might get a good number of votes frm south east which i am afraid of. with dis result, there might b no big challenge for apc in d next electn which means more suffering for nigerians. d zombies up north will vote d daura man in coz there will b an almost equal split of votes in d SW n SE. d SS will vote for PDP.

to ppl shouting boycott, boycott. ....... apparently ppl came out to vote. will b suprise d numbers of voters will will nt exceed d numbers dat voted in d last election.

do people jst buy new cars like dat? what will they use to buy them?..... most times i jst laugh at the versions of leaders we hav in africa especially nigeria. they are all version -1.0. instead of them to tackle fundamental problems which are infrastructure, education, health, and enabling environment for businesses to thrive so that her citizens and the country can b prosperous economically. hw will one buy a new car when its even difficult for such person to eat three times a day? not to talk of unemployment, underemployment and poor infrastructures especially power

igbodefender:
It is so bad that even if you want to help fix road or the less privileged, they will demand bribe.

during my nysc, we constructed a billboard highlighting the effects of drugabuse in the society. the funny thing is dat one local government official demanded for #5k. b4 d billboard can b erected. we fought our way tru to the chairman who later revealed dat the official jst want to chop our money. dat such community development project do not require any form of payment. this tin is jst tooooo much is our society today

corruption has been a major problem in Nigeria hindering the socio-economic development of the country. The effects of corruption in Nigeria is vividly written in all sectors of the country. It has marred all the necessary machineries deployed for the development of the nation. Although, many reasons has been viewed as the cause of the gross deterioration of standards in the Nigerian society which of course are all correct; but there is this discrete subset which I believe is fostering corruption in Nigeria today-and that is “gratification”.

Gratification is a reward for a job well done which is given to an individual out of free will. But when one is compelled out of his or her own convenience or just to satisfy the “compulsory societal norm”, then there is a problem.

The saddening results of gratification is expressed more in the public sector than the private sector. The government officials who are paid monthly to carry out their duties are always expecting one form of reward when carrying out their duties. This has even graduated to a compulsory levy (bribe) to the officials in order to do their jobs. Government parastatals such as police, pension, customs and immigration to mention a few are well involved in this.

On the streets of Nigeria today, the products of this culture of gratification can be seen in the “omo onile’s”, “agbero’s” and street thugs who deem the giving of reward as their right. They even go to the extent of obstructing a law abiding individual in the pursuit of his day to day activities and hindering him of erecting his own building. They go about hailing well to do Nigerians and fraudsters hoping for a drop of reward. And if such person refuses, they begin to rain insults on the person and sometimes result to damaging the properties of such individual.

Also in the education sector-especially secondary and tertiary institutions, gratification as become a menace that needs urgent attention. In our universities today, students contribute monies to service lecturers’ birthdays, thanksgiving, ceremonies etc. hoping for a reward in form of “grade leniency”. Lecturers also expects gratifications from the students at the end of each semester- for teaching? I don’t know. In the secondary schools, teachers also expects one form of reward from parents and guardians for taking good care of their wards.

Finally, I am not against gratifications, neither am I encouraging it. One thing I observed in our society is if a reward is given to an employee by two or more persons, the employee tend to view such as a right which in turn do give the employee the temerity to ask for such reward from other customers or in the worst case make it compulsory before he/she performs his/her duty. I believe that gratification giving easily graduates to bribery thereby compounding the misery of corruption in our society.

in reminise voice----where i come, this can neva happen------

in 9ja the number of armed policemen escorting her will be 10x the number of under-equipped policemen performing their duties

According to wiki ----
A failed state is a political body that has
disintegrated to a point where basic conditions and
responsibilities of a sovereign government no longer
function properly. Likewise, when a nation weakens
and its standard of living declines, it introduces the
possibility of total governmental collapse-------

i believe that all the symptoms of this definition can be seen in our dear country Nigeria. The sovereignty of the government is in decline with respect to her citizens deference. The standard of living continue to fall down the cliff as the year counts down. unemployment, uproar frm secessionists, tribalism, nepotism, crime and other social vices has become the norm in Nigeria today.

@Opp u pointed out china in ur assertion to debate the position of Nigeria in the court of failed states. i will like to affirm here dat one of the fundamental obligations of government is to make available basic amenities to her citizens. good roads, good healthcare services, good education- in form of schools and vocational institutions, good electricity supply, etc. all of these are made available in china for over a billion people. but same cannot be said here in Nigeria. in fact our limited amenities are in decline year in year out.

just imagine what nigeria will become with jst 15hr of daily regular supply of power. Nigeria is a very strong example of a failed state or let me say a failing state

Edoloaded:



Oramiyan the last son of Oduduwa returned
to Ife from Benin after he installed his son, Eweka
the first as Oba of Benin. He met his father Oduduwa
who was very advanced in age and blind, more also all
properties had been shared and distributed among his
fifteen brothers and sisters. Alternatively, seven
brothers according to Oba of Benin, Oduduwa was at a
dilemma on what to do because he assumed Benin Kingdom
would be enough as Oranmiyan's inheritance. Both
version of history agreed that the name Benin meant
"the land of the annoyed" because Oranmiyan left the
place in annoyance. Again, Oba of Benin was right on
this

Oduduwa found an easy way out. He gave Oranmiyan his
staff as symbol to show his brothers and sisters to be
able to collect ten percent of revenue derived from
yearly harvest through out Yoruba land. With this,
Oranmiyan was able to collect over 150 percent of all
the returns throughout the uncoordinated kingdom.
Oduduwa also grudgingly agreed to allow his last son
Oranmiyan to be king at Ile Ife after his death. The
reason for this was unknown as this was against the
custom and tradition of giving priority to first child
or son who was Ila of Irangun. On the other hand,
could it be said that Orangun was too afraid to
challenge his junior brother or Oranmiyan was indeed
the senior? This is something the present Orangun of
Ila should explain.

Oduduwa was primarily a priest and voodoo man. It is
said until today that it is only one day that is free
of ritual worship in Ile Ife and the day is never made
public. Oduduwa took vacation just for one day. In one
of the ritual ceremonies where nobody was allowed to
be seen outside, a foreign woman of no means of
tracing her background was captured and was to be used
as scarifices for the gods. She was later spared
because she was found to be pregnant beside, it was
against ritual requirement. The child from the woman
was dedicated to the gods and act as a servant to
assist Oduduwa in his day-to-day ritual and voodoo
job. The child was named Ooni: meaning "this is Spared
One"

After the death of Oduduwa his son, Oranmiyan was
invited to take over the job of his father, which was
primarily ritual and voodoo, as well as traditional
ruler of Ile Ife. Oranmiyan refused because he had
succeeded in building an economically viable place at
Oyo Ile with administratively sound method of
government around the Oyomesi council in chief and it
would be degrading to leave this and move to Ile Ife
to be involved in daily ritual sacrifices.

Oranmiyan gave a condition that he must be buried at
Ife to symbolise his right to Ife thrown. It was on
condition of this that Ooni the son of the slave
woman that was captured and dedicated to gods that was
assisting Oduduwa continued the work of Oduduwa at
Ife. This is the reason why ALafin of Oyo will never
accept Ooni of Ife as a king or a superior in any
Yoruba gathering of Obas.

Ooni's assumed superiority was a British creation
because the King of England assumed a king at Ife, the
cradle of Yoruba, must be superior to all Obas just
like the British did in Abeokuta by imposing Alake's
superiority over other Obas at Abeokuta. In case of
Egbas, Sorunke who led the Egbas from Ibadan to the
present Abeokuta was from Oke Ona, where Oba Tejuoso
is the King. This is the reason why there is conflict
between Alake and Osile till date.

Oranmiyan was buried at Ife and not at Oyo, which is
the reason for the Opa Oranyan at Ife till today. Ooni
was not a true son or direct descendant of Oduduwa and
his title was not recognised. Ooni was just his name
which became his title. Ooni like other Yoruba Obas
paid duties to Oranmiyan during and after the death of
Oduduwa.

This practice stopped after the Oyo Empire was
destroyed. It is rather difficult to accept the Ooni's
version as against the Omonoba Polopolo. Oranmiyan
was a belligerent person. A war hero and where his
brothers and sister refused to give the yearly ten
percent duty as agreed with the staff of Oduduwa he
would use force. He later appointed his
representatives in each of the kingdoms of Yoruba to
monitor the returns, thus the creation of Oyo Empire
that led to the end of the kingdom Oduduwa created
which was not properly coordinated. The new empire
grew with amazing rapidity throughout West Africa and
was like the Ghana or Shonghai Empire of the medieval
history in the south of Sahara. Oyo Empire started
slave trade to weaken opposition.

An administration like the British

Oranmiyan's administration was the best in Africa and
could be likened to the British system of
Administration during the colonial government. The
empire expanded up to the present Benin republic.
Those who escaped the control of Alafin are the
Yorubas living in Benin Republic, which was formerly
Dahomey, On the East side, Oranmiyan never bothered
Benin Kingdom because of his son, and his son never
looked for him. At least there was no record of
history of any transaction between father and son.
Benin Kingdom continued to progress and Oyo Empire
continued to expand to the west coast. In Lagos, there
could not be a clash, it was a place of reunion for
Edo's and Yoruba it was said Eko, which is Lagos, and
in our local dialect is a Benin word.

Oyo Empire later suffered from over expansion and some
local hero started to emerge to challenge the
authority of the Oyo kingdom or that of the Alafin of
Oyo. Among them was the Lisabi Agboagbo Akala who
liberated the Egbas from Oyo Empire to create a
fearless Egba Kingdom.

Lisabi was never a king. In fact, he was murdered by
the Alake of Egbaland because of his popularity. Egbas
as a kingdom with its own National Anthem "Lori Oke
ati Pele" was merged with Nigeria by the British
Empire after 1914. In addition, Lagelu emerged from
Ibadan, Ogendegbe from Ijeshaland and Shou of
Ogbomosho and Ilorin through the deserter Chief of
Army Staff of Oyo who was killed by Alimi a Fulani;
thus, the end of Oyo Empire. The attack from the
Sokoto Caliphate from the North finally nailed the
coffin of the Oyo Empire.The collapse of the Oyo
Empire led to the Yoruba Wars. The present Oyo town
has nothing to do with Old Oyo town, it was just a new
creation to symbolise the memory of the Old.

The Egbas and Ijebus took over the control of
southwest towards the Atlantics because of lucrative
slave trade and closeness to the white man. The
emergence of western civilisation further weakened the
Old Oyo empire, the empire collapsed and the ruminants
of it can still be found at the old site. The irony of
it is Alafin of Oyo in the present Oyo town
continued to live in the memory of his ancestors'
glory of the Old Oyo empire

In conclusion, Ooni who is not a direct son or
descendants of Oduduwa cannot be considered viable in
this discussion, but Alafin of Oyo must examine his
place in history and that of his senior brother
Orangun of Ila the first son who had disappeared into
history because he never challenged Oranmiyan. The
abdication of the thrown is a loss of right. However,
can a son be greater than his father? or can a river
be greater than its source? The source of Yoruba from
Benin is very authentic than Saudi Arabia or Lamurudu,
which cannot be traced, in Saudi Arabian history

oranmiyan grew up at ile-ife b4 his father sent him to benin to rule. he got frustrated with d benins and installed his son ewaka as king ...my point is the word OBA belong to d yorubas nt benin ppl

Edopesin:
now you AGREE that it was first used by a benin king

according to Wikipedia--- Oranmiyan Omoluabi Odede, Great Prince of Ife, King of the Yoruba also known as Oranyan, was a Yoruba king from the kingdom of Ile-Ife [1] and although he was the last born, he became the prime heir to Oduduwa at his return to claim his father's throne. [2] According to Yoruba history, he founded Oyo as its first Alaafin at around the year 1300 and one of his children, Eweka I, proceeded to become the first Oba of the Benin Empire .-------- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oranyan
so clearly the yorubas own the word OBA

Edopesin:
now you AGREE that it was first used by a benin king

according to Wikipedia--- Oranmiyan Omoluabi Odede, Great Prince of Ife, King of the Yoruba also known as Oranyan, was a Yoruba king from the kingdom of Ile-Ife [1] and although he was the last born, he became the prime heir to Oduduwa at his return to claim his father's throne. [2] According to Yoruba history, he founded Oyo as its first Alaafin at around the year 1300 and one of his children, Eweka I, proceeded to become the first Oba of the Benin Empire .--------
so clearly the yorubas own the word OBA

Edopesin:

now you AGREE that it was first used by a benin king

i didnt agree with you, what i said was that d title Oba was first used in benin kingdom by oba oranmiyan who in essence was one of oduduwas sons. which means there was a title the benin royal house was associated with before oranmiyan. and i believe that oranmiyan got this title by his assocuation with the yoruba tribe.
moreover if u click on oba in that in that particular sentence, it will clearly tell u dat the word oba is associated with thr yoruba ppl.

Edopesin:

The title of Oba was used after the Ogiso title and was created by Oba Oranmiyan, Benin Empire's first "Oba". Oba Eweka I, Oranmiyan's son, is said to have ascended to power at some time between 1180 and 1300. The Oba of Benin was the Head of State (Emperor) of the Benin Empire until the Empire's annexation by the British, in 1897.
source

like i said ealier both side havr their own history. frm my own personal knowledge, oranmiyan is a typical yoruba ancestria name which belong to one of oduduwas sons.
also from ur research that was the oba of benin. mayb they have different implications to both cultures-i dont know.

it said d title was created (in benin kingdom) by oranmiyan i.e. u guyz have a title for ur royal family b4 the ascension of oranmiyan as the king. and frm my own knowledge, oranmiyan is one of oduduwas sons; so it is safe for me to say that the title is from yoruba kindom

Edopesin:

Baba Visit Wiki And Clear Your Doubt

i will ask u a qurstion-which culture out of the two influences the other? in edo state today, ppl bear yoruba names, your royal ruler is referred to as OBA and there are lot of yoruba cultures hidden in your ways of life(culturally). but thr yorubas are very distinct. no influnce of other culture except that of the Europeans which was general to all west african cultures.

for ur information the benin ppl have their own history abt oduduwa likewise the yorubas to. i am not present to witness d oduduwa regime so i dont know which is true. but if u read ur wiki very well, d so called oduduwa who came frm benin met a group of ppl in ile-ife already-the yorubas. that means the yorubas have been in existence before the arival of "benin oduduwa". and i can categorically tell u dat the word OBA is a yoruba word and does noy belong to the benin ppl.

Edopesin:
Mr Know It All Wikipedia Is Your Friend The Word Oba Was First Used By A Benin King

bro, abeg which wikipedia una read ur oba was first used by a brnin king?...

bamosagie:


Oduduwa is a direct descendant of the Ogiso of Benin

u people should pls go back.to schl and pay more attention to history. the word OBA is a yoruba word which means king. how will.u say oduduwa is a descendant of one king or person from the benin kingdom. we ar talking about YORUBA here nw. one of the largest ethnic group in africa

ifenes:
I will take poor grades over good grades any day. The A students works for the B students. C students run the businesses and D students owns the building. Experience is often better than good grades. All these certificates are only insurance policies that makes you work for others. The higher the grades the worse.

If the Uni professor knows the keys to become a billionaire,he won't bother be in that profession in the firsts place.

they don come again with all these obnoxious theories