Only 2 days offline thread don grow fat like yokozuna.

Good news is sweet we pray we get more of it.

@ Trastar congratulations
@ alphadoor , you still thank the chicken join - I must eat that chiken before ì go for another attempt

Good luck to those of us still trying to pass. This is Highly motivational. Never give up.

No longer Person customer. Congratulations again bro.

Amen to all the prayers

Alphadoor:
"A picture is worth a thousand words"

I'll like to appreciate all my cheerleaders in no particular order

@azy123 @toslad @afosahid @misoke @bellong @Michaelamo @spyroxy1 @spyroxy @trastar @mamajazz @tuteso @zoew @wapu @kayvutton

If i didn't mention your name, its too much joy, vex if u like, i like you like that . just kidding

Lol

1. is correct B was a subset of N

A, A, T will be a subset of A by Gods grace

jayooh:


There are 2 things involved.
1. It's either B is a subset of N or,
2. A;A;T are all subsets of A

It was a pleasure to meet you boss.

By Gods grace our desires will be granted and we will meet down under.

bellong:
@Alphadoor, Azy123 and Toslad,

Many thanks for the company on Saturday. I enjoyed the short time we had. Hope we can do it again down under.

All the best.

#GMPC

It will all end in praise.

sunvick:
Yes ohh. I ported to Canada since my occupation has been on pro-rota and the points keep going up and not coming down.

I have received Canadian ITA, so progressing my application gradually.
Thanks Bellong, but I was sending out a shout out to you guys.

[s]Yes me.
1) does bornlegend really work with you
2) How come his name is bornlegend
3) Are you willing to accept his resignature if we grant him VISA[/s]

The Engineers will soon come and answer

bornlegend:
Hello Fam!

Please, I have a question.
For someone that did not pay for experience assessment. During verification by HA, is there anyone with an idea of what they ask the employer for this verification?

Congratulations!!!

And amen to the prayers

wapu:
Sometime last two weeks I came here and cried that we got negative assessment from ACS.
Alphadoor and Azy123 came to my rescue (God bless you beyond measures).

Today I got a positive assessment with 8years given to us.
Age-30
English-20
Degree-15
Experience-15
Total points now 80points.

Azy123 and Alphadoor I really need to hug you guys. I don't know how to say thank you.

So...

How did you get the 75 bro. It seems you seleceted some options that are not applicable to you.Or you assumed 20 points in english?

Also note that you cant really know your point for experience until you have done your assessment because your assessing Authorities in most cases remove some years of experience especially if the qualification is not an exact fit for the occupation.

I will advise you calm down and package your application very well to reduce the years assesing authority will remove.

It will end in praise.

75 is more than enough for now.

Rallyberry:

Age 33years=25marks
IELTS =0point
Education:masters=15 points
Experience 8years=15points

I think you might be better off exploring TRA option since you have OND and HND Electrical/Electronics

TRA guys over to you.

olalekankad sujydee etc

jimohabdo:


i wil be 27 by May 25, i don't really understand the age analogy. please kindly explain with my real age and other information i have provided above. thanks, i really appreciate your response. God bless you all

Congratulations!!!

teewhysafe:
Finally, its our turn to testify.

Received Grants

To all those awaiting Assessments/ITA/English/Grants, keep the faith burning. Don't get weary. It will surely come.

God bless

PM

[quote author=boombabe post=65467091][/quote]

IT assistance is not in Australia ANZSCO so we will need to look for something to nominate.

lets look at your points first.

Age = 30 points ( you are less than 33)
English = 20 ( highest possible)
Qualification = 10 ( HND acquired in 2017 i.e aqf diploma or advance diploma depending on the school)

Total point without experience = 60 points

With the current trend 60 points is not even close to being enough for ICT professions on 189. but you can explore 489 while you try to increase you points

Your best bet to give you some opportunity of claiming experience point is not to rely on your HND for positive assessment(your HND is Diploma with ICT major, see the ACS summary of criteria attached) but to use RPL (recognition of prior learning) but this also depends on your age.

ACS will deduct 8 years of experience. But the good part is that experience from the day you turned 18 years is acceptable whether part time or full time but it must be more than 20 hours per week.

So,

If you are up to 29 years you can claim 3 years of experience ( 18 years + 8 years ACS will deduct + 3 years experience for points). If you are more than 29 yrs you can claim more experience points.

jimohabdo:
Good day all,
@bellong and other gurus... i just concluded my HND last October 2017. Although, i was working full time and studying on a full time bases as well after reading through the trend, i notice job experience is post qualification. i have five years working experience already, i want to know if i should use my ND qualification to apply because with my ND my work experience is covered, and also want to know National Diploma point.

Age - 30 points
English - Awaiting result
Qualification -

Replied

ford705:


thanks for your response bro...

MCSE X2 (Cloud Infrastructure and Server Infrastructure) = 9/28/2016 and expires in 2019
Bsc(Electronics & Computer Technology) UNICAL = 6/7/2013

For the experience look for a statement similar to this

"The following employment after June 2008 is considered to equate to work at an appropriately skilled
level and relevant to 263111 (Computer Network and Systems Engineer) of the ANZSCO Code."

A month and a date must have been stated on the assessment result as in the bolded above. Calculate from that month till the last day your husband stop working and that is the number of months or years.

AQF Graduate Diploma with a Major in computing this is 15 points

https://www.aqf.edu.au/aqf-levels

boombabe:
@azy123 please reply

PM me so that we can exchenge emails.

MCSE X2 (Cloud Infrastructure and Server Infrastructure) = ?? ( when ? the date of certification is important)
Bsc(Electronics & Computer Technology) UNICAL= date?

ford705:
I am planning to apply for this

263111: COMPUTER NETWORK AND SYSTEMS ENGINEER

I need someone to help me review my documents before I submit

age= 30 points
skill= 10 points i think
Bsc(Electronics & Computer Technology) UNICAL= 15 Points
MCSE X2 (Cloud Infrastructure and Server Infrastructure) =

I need someone I can forward my documents to for advice before I submit to ACS
$500 no be small money oooo

Thank you

I just replied your message. Have been a bit busy. Lets review together in the evening.

wapu:



Please I'm still waiting.

Yes ZoeW suggestion is valid. It is review you will go for not appeal. With review you can submit new docs and if HR will not give you what you want you can do statutory declaration.

We will review the docs together :-)

olapj:
@Azy123
Age - 25; English Test - 20; Awaiting Education and Work assessment from ACS to get 30. This is what I meant by hoping

I will follow your advise and accept the Systems Admin. today.

Should I follow ZoeW's suggestion to get HR Reference without JD and have my Managers give a statutory declaration for the JD? Will this be better?

Who can help me review my JD? Can you help with this please?

I am told there is an appeal and review process. Which of them should I be doing?

I appreciate your help and suggestions. Thanks.

Received.

wapu:



Please I've resent

Contact spyroxy1 he can help you get

Noreal:
Please where can I get PTE voucher?

No mail received. Please check and resend.


az*******@gmail.com

wapu:



Sent. Please

I did not get the mail.
send to

Az********@gmail.com

wapu:
Azy123 and Alphadoor I'm so sorry to bother you guys but please come to my aid I beg you.
Pleaassseee!!!

I need you.

Congratulations!!!!

TRed:
Good morning everyone,

I received ITA for 489 from South Australia this morning. Application submitted on the 6th of feb.

All thanks to everyone on this great forum.

Oga bellong, you are much appreciated.

@Misoke, thanks for your prayer.

Only for occupations marked as "special condition apply" and supplementary skilled list for SA

stepo707:

The 85 points that SA requires, is it for all nominated jobs or some particular ict jobs?

I just checked again when you mentioned "low availability" and realized that you actually need 70, 60+10 points for system administrator. I thought it was on "special condition"where you need 85 points. ( so I will go back and edit my initial post so as not to mislead)

SA is nominating for 489 if you can meet their requirement i.e (60 points + 10 regional nomination points for system administrator).

You say you hope to get 75 point post assessment. Can you please break it down.

Do you already have 20 points in English. Please don't assume it is a work in the park.

The system administrator suggestion may actually be a blessing in disguise.

My advice..

Accept the System Administrator, Apply to SA with 489. They take like 5 weeks t nominate ( since your age point will be changing soon)

Then

Start the review process to get ICT biz analyst, Only ACS knows how long they will take but it cant take long. But this time around be sure to send to people to help you review.

olapj:
@Azy123

I understand what you mean and it is just so painful because the Reference letter submitted had a detailed description of what each job entailed. Each career episode was clearly explained.

I am also afraid that apart from not be able to get 189 Visa, would accepting Systems Admin not mean I may get a few years cut off my experience since about 6 years of it is not relevant to Systems admin?

Also, I see NT wants evidence of employment in NT for Systems Admin. eligibility.
SA also says low availability.

I am at a crossroad here. I don't know what to do. Time is not favorable as I would be 40 in about 2 months, hence losing a few more points.

I wish they had even asked for clarity or more documentation.

Place of work, titles cannot be changed and HR has no idea what it is a person actually does. only line managers do. But HR is the one that gives references based on the titles on the offer letters and job role change, but the Job descriptions were drafted to fit ICT Business analyst as it is what I do.

What do I do? I am afraid Systems Admin offers flickering hope

Sorry about this situation.

Assessments officers , especially ACS, only look at your job descriptions to determine which occupation you fir into. Some job title ring bells and one can easily have an idea of where they fit e.g

Local Database Administrator 2010 - 2013
Network Controller 2007 – 2009.

While some ring no bells at all e.g ( for me the following does not even give me an idea of what the job entails)

Services Dispatch Manager / Tools and Processes Manager 2016 - 2017.
Tools and Processes Manager August 2013 - January 2016 (Service Dispatch Manager was an additional role to this)
Change Management Administrator 2009 – 2010

So,

Ultimately the job descriptions determines occupation you are assessed as.

I see 2 options for you

1) Do nothing = sure negative assessment for ICT biz Analyst. Then do a review by resubmitiing refrence letters with the right Job descriptions. that means you will pay 375 AUD and get a positive assessment in ICT Biz Analyst ( note that ICT biz analyst is currently on 75 points)


2) Accept their suggestion = System Administrator 200AUD. Apply 489 to NT and SA (but note that SA requires high point- 70 points. 60+10). You can still review with new reference letter with correct JD for ICT Biz Analyst while you hold System Administrator positive assessment first.

olapj:
Good Morning good people. Please help a confused Nigerian ooo...biko

I received a feedback on my assessment as an ICT Business Analyst from ACS that my skills are not closely related to my nominated ANZSCO code. It was recommended that Systems Administrator is suitable.

Now I am told if i have to change to this new code I have to pay additional 200AUD. The problem I have with this code is this, not only is it barely related to what I do (I looked up this code, so I don't know how it relates), I had barely more than 2 years experience at the start of my career (so I am surprised at this recommendation) but the major issue is the role is not eligible for the 189 visa. And very few states sponsor it with clauses.

My experience is below: (All, except 2007-2009 role, were with the same employer)
Services Dispatch Manager / Tools and Processes Manager 2016 - 2017.
Tools and Processes Manager August 2013 - January 2016 (Service Dispatch Manager was an additional role to this)
Local Database Administrator 2010 - 2013
Change Management Administrator 2009 – 2010
Network Controller 2007 – 2009.

In view of this, what do I do?

Am I supposed to wait for them to conclude this then I appeal the assessment? Although they didn't mention a need for clarity or additional documents. Or do I concede to the fate of Systems Administrator which most states don't seem to want?

Please help an aspiring Nigerian searching for saner/greener pasture. Please advise me (Are there any alternative options I could take?)

Please help.

Wow. So happy for you. Congratulations!!!!.

I could remember when you were worried if you could claim 15 points for education.

Go and prosper in the land of OZ.

ZoeW:

And indeed I was next!
Visa granted 9 February 2018!!!
Too excited to post my timelines!!!

If you use your MIT you will get positive assessment but no point for experience. Without experience experience point can you get up to 75 points total? If so then you are good to go. Do your calculation - age? , Edu - 15, Eng ? Partner point?

Otherwise you can arrange your assessment properly to make that 4 years post B.Sc experience count = 5 points.

RPL + B.Sc

or

RPL + Certification (MCSE )

Note that part time work during your Bsc( or even before your Bsc as long as you are over 18 year of age) that is greater than 20 hours can be used as relevant work experience. They can remove that as the required 6 - 8 years
If any of the company you worked with can not issue reference letter or the company no longer exist, you can use statutory declaration.

Go through the summary of criteria attached as well to get the picture.

Tolutheo:


Thank you for your time boss, here are the answers below:

1.) No, MIT is a professional masters so PGD is not required for non IT majors
2.) I obtained the MIT Dec, 2017
3.) I obtained the BSc Biochemistry in November 2012
4.) Yes I have a couple of Microsoft Cert: MCSA Office 365, MCSE Sharepoint, MS Azure, MCSD Azure (All obtained between 2014 and 2015)
5.) I started working immediately after my NYSC in June 2014 so I have about 4 years post NYSC experience

@Trastar , I miss that line where he said he has 4 yours experience only, now I see it. I agree with you this is the tricky part. But his B.sc point is 15 points (BSc. from OAU) same as his masters.

@Tolutheo, I assume you will use pre-qualification experience together with your BSc. and RPL so that your experience immediately after your B.Sc can count towards your experience point.

If all 4 years experience were acquired after Masters then you can use your masters only and still get the same point.

trastar:


This is tricky.
If he has two years before the masters, means he will claim points for 4 years experience gotten after masters and claim 15 points for education..
His BSc will only get him 10 points and he stated he has just 4 years experience.

TRed as done justice to your question.

But note that it is not just to have a positive assessment but also to maximise your point that count

Do you have up to 8 years experience after your Masters? so that you can claim 15 points. If you do then you can use your masters

Else

Use your Bsc cert with an RPL.

Do you have any other IT cert?

The earlier the certificate the better because your skill level met date will be from the date you obtain the certificate if the acquired experience is sufficient.

cc: alphadoor

Tolutheo:


Thanks boss. This is really helpful. The masters seems valid for the occupation I am nominating. Please I will also like to ask if the years of experience I have before obtaining my masters will count.

Hi wapu,

You can start by answering the question

"is it ICT support engineer " 263212 that was advised?"

Or ICT system test engineer

I know someone who was in the same shoe last year. she decided to accept it even though it was not sponsored by NSW at that time she lodged EOI. She got nominated on stream 2, NSW.

So it is really in your hand.

If you dont mind the money , I think you should accept it first ( you have something to hold in your hand). Then do a review by submitting updated reference letters that would be in line with the ANZSCO you really want. Since your RPL was is already successful , your review will be successful as well as long as you do it right with correct Job description.

wapu:


What do you advice I do?

Congratulations!!! it is long overdue

mamajaz:
On a good day like this, this long awaited AHPRA referral letter to do a bridging program for registration as a nurse in Oz strolled majestically into my gmail.com
Thanks to chief Bellong, nnbb2012, Solitin, Jamson, Bnimz, mctowel01, Teejay80, uchenna2017, nkechima, Alphadoor, spyroxyl, Olalekankad, nanlop, olatuntop, verabampe, and all of you.
Much grateful to the lord God Almighty for, great things he hath done.
Now: forward march to BP.

LMAO .

You seem to be using OSPF v3 running multiple instances over the link. lol

TRed:


Oga mi, na to route my way enter Oz before the 2019 madness o.

I say make I configure this route 25.15.10.10 to see if my hosts go connect for Aussie.