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Beef, like I told you before, you're not mentally and emotionally strong and equipped to debate and function rationally in threads. You engage people and when they do same, you start posting ridiculous nonsensical pictures and coursing people's parents like a juvenile.


It is not by force to engage other people, pull yourself together sometimes,

Mekana:
who cares

Obviously, you do.

I really don't want Fashola to contest nationally and I'd love for him to stay in Lagos, @ least till the end of his second term.

Fashola and his boys are die hard Lagosians and I don't see them going to Abuja for anything. Even to the average Lagos, Abuja is irrelevant and Lagos comes first.

Lagos is a state of mind, a way of life and culture.

Beef, it's not my fault that you failed to adequately prove that I throw tribal insults, I nerver commented or say anything about your race or that my tribal costume's are better than yours.

You're obviously overreaching.

Beef, I still don't get your point because I've explained myself already.

tpia.

Can we please move on? This thread is not about you, geezz

Beaf:
This was not just "tribal", it was racist https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-314283.96.html#msg4422823
. . .Tell me about being "sensitive" and "facts".

Calling people corrupt politicians what they are is tribal and racist. And why racist anyways, I'm I not black myself and if you're talking about the costume, I just don't like them same way I don't like agabda and skinny jeans.


Beef, please be serious,

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=362251.msg5056525#msg5056525 date=1260048597]do you have another explanation for the bolded?[/quote]That was qualifying and defining revers tribalism, I didn't say you are a tribalist.

I didn't say tpia is or you are a tribalist. Don't blame me for your flawed sense of comprehension.

The fact is, you labeled yourself a tribalist in this thread.


This is getting juvenile,

Beaf:
The majority don't think so (I don't). Do you want to redefine "tribalist" for us?
I actually thought you were reforming and calling other tribalists like yourself to reconsider.

I've engaged several threads where regional issues were discussed and because you assert facts that the other side finds objectionable doesn't mean you are a tribalist or throwing tribal insults. People are very sensitive and they don't want to here any less than pretty facts right or wrong about their tribe, They just don't like your facts,

Like I said, feel free to prove or show where transgressed tribaly,

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=362251.msg5056398#msg5056398 date=1260047370]since you started off by saying I'm a tribalist, insecure, etc, etc, then shouldnt you ignore any post I make, not just ones you dont consider tribalist. For all you know, I may be secretly throwing tribalistic jabs which you cant see.

Unless you want to be the judge of whats tribalistic and what's not?

I think you're confused.

In any case, practice what you preach and stop responding.

I got on this thread because as soon as i read your first post, I know it applies to me and I wanted to spell out a few things.[/quote]I didn't call call you a tribalist, you called yourself a tribalist. Show me where I did and stop acting delusional.


[quote author=tpia. link=topic=362251.msg5055753#msg5055753 date=1260041782]^^ sorry, you're preaching to a wall.

I'm a tribalist- deal with it.

Thats Nigeria and if you want to be a hero, then good luck to you.[/quote]

[quote author=onye_ngbu link=topic=362251.msg5056404#msg5056404 date=1260047403]So babapupa, you have suddenly become a born again.
Now referring to tribalists as 'they'.
Wonders shall never end.[/quote]I'm not a tribalist and never been. You're free to prove me wrong with facts if you must.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=362251.msg5056300#msg5056300 date=1260046474]well, stop responding to my posts then.

Like others pointed out- arent you doing the same thing you're accusing others of?

The people who should be supporting you are even the ones correcting you.[/quote]I believe this thread is about refraining from throwing tribal insults and sentiments and so far in this thread, no tribal insults. What we are doing is what this thread was designed to do.

We should be able to go back and forth like adults and so far, there's no reason for me to ignore you because I started this thread to allow us to discuss and dialogue and you're allowed to participate and share your thoughts regardless of your position for or against.

I'll ignore you the very second you deploy tribal insults. PERIOD.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=362251.msg5056248#msg5056248 date=1260045945]like i said, you're preaching to a wall.[/quote]Why are you still here wasting your time then? I'm sure there are more than enough tribal threads out there to shower your precious tribal time on.

Are you even listening to yourself?

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=362251.msg5056150#msg5056150 date=1260045155]are you blaming me for the way people chose to title their threads? I do hope you're not drunk today.

Has not patronizing such threads stopped the perpetrators from opening them?

If all Yorubas refuse to read the threads saying Yoruba this and Yoruba that, does that stop others from reading them?

You could also ask the admin and moderator why they cant change thread titles or delete tribalistic threads of course, but its much more fun to focus on irrelevancies.


Some NLers' job is to start tribalistic threads- so its not just about the thread title but the fact that certain users post nothing but tribal threads.


Like i mentioned before, I dont have to wait until a stranger asks me silly questions before I know what to do.


If you refuse to read a thread or if by some chance your eyes skipped the multiple threads and posts discussing Yoruba women's smelly tot, does that mean other interested observers did the same.

at least in real life you can call the cops on or otherwise deal with anyone showing this level of bigotry. On NL such xenophobes are celebrated because after all we have bad leaders.


rubbish.[/quote]The fact is, most of these threads are baits by insecure people designed to attract other insecure people.

Like I said before, you don't have to jump over the bridge because other people are. You are your own person and there's no need to take cues from ignorant tribal bigots and hate peddlers. You enable and empower them to thrive.

KnowAll:
Tribal positioning is good for politics,

I don't think so, maybe in Nigeria because we do things backwards like we're still back in the stone age.

Intelligent and rational positioning is good for politics, not tribalism. Tribalism allows you to shortchange yourself and the people you took oaths to serve, protect and look out for. Tribalism allows you to blur the difference between right and wrong.

Why patronize threads with titles like An Igbo man did this/ that or a Yoruba man did this/that when a man or woman this or that would have sufficed?

Anyway, let's ignore the distraction and carry on with the subject matter.


It's my believe that we have so much in common, but we're not willing to reach out, explore and take advantage of anything. We needlessly distract ourselves with worthless tribal sentiments. We even subscribe to what we know is bad for us and our future just because of tribal considerations.  We don't see good on the other side of the fence, we see only fear and mistrust, it's like education is incapable of washing away the dirty stench of ignorance and tribalims,

OMO IBO:
Surely engaging in some back n forth blige with an obtuse pugnacious harridan is counter productive.

I see what you're saying. I honestly think we can go back back n forth discussing the subject matter as long as we're not throwing tribal insults at each other,

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=362251.msg5055929#msg5055929 date=1260043155]like i said- log off NL if its too much for you.

is someone forcing you to be here?

i am a tribal bigot and racist- does that decrease your salary.[/quote]If we all log off NL because we disagree, there wont be a soul left on NL but you talking to yourself. Stop arguing like a brick head.

Dude, it's not by force to repeat the same nonsense, I heard you the first time. Do you and be all you can be, defend your insecure self to eternity.

na you biko.

OMO IBO:
Babapupa, I thought your initial post made a lot of sense but you've been somehow dragged into doing the same thing you talked against.

In what way because I'm still on the same message and feel free to lead me where I transgressed.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=362251.msg5055856#msg5055856 date=1260042626]sweetie, dont get your knickers in a twist and become a byword.

if NL is disturbing you too much, then log off.

Even if you open 10,000 threads such as this one, telling people not to respond to tribalistic threads, that wont stop anyone from beating you up because of your tribe.[/quote]Are you not the one going crazy because you think you're about to be stripped of your rights to be a tribal bigot and racists like the ones you're defending yourself against?

Be what you must be, it just doesn't mean what you must be is good for your fragile and insecure self.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=362251.msg5055753#msg5055753 date=1260041782]^^ sorry, you're preaching to a wall.

I'm a tribalist- deal with it.

Thats Nigeria and if you want to be a hero, then good luck to you.[/quote]edit,

Why are you convulsing? You don't have to slit your wrist because of babapupa. Dude, kill yourself if you like sef, lol. see wahala o.

I don't have to deal with your stupidity and tribal nonsense, I ignore such crap. Do you see me pay attention to the likes of mekusxxx and the other tribal zombies? @ least not lately.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=362251.msg5055561#msg5055561 date=1260040457]^^ when in Rome, do as the Romans.[/quote]You don't have to jump over the bridge because other people are like mumu. Try make sense small small.

Stooping down to absurd level because you are defending your tribe means your thoughts  ain't any different from what you're challenging, meaning you are what you're criticizing.

Only insecure and shallow people waka around defending themselves over what's not what defending.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=362251.msg5055505#msg5055505 date=1260040039]you're free to join some other forum where there's no tribalism.[/quote]This discussion is about NL, not about joining other forums. Let's stay focused my friend,

Yes, babapupa is talking tribalists. We can stop it,

We know the tribalists, we see their bait threads and titles and we still join in to encourage and enable them to spew their nonsense to start more needless and pointless threads.


We know they thrive on the back and forth so why not just sidestep such  threads and deny them the attention and oxygen?  Tribalism is a state of mind and you can't change such mindsets. It's a disease and problem they have to fix on their own.


If you don't like tribal threads, ignore and don't encourage,  encouraging simply = you're are part of the problem and you have no morale right to judge and complain because you enable them, you give them the time of the day to thrive and live to start another silly, ignorant and annoying thread.

It's a tough job, somebody got to do it.


We'll get there, it's just a matter of time.


Eko o ni baje,

[quote author=onye_ngbu link=topic=361323.msg5052582#msg5052582 date=1259995445]The audit that exposed all the ills in the industry was iniated by soludo himself. Sanusi only finished the job.
One thing i like about soludo's attitude to all the trash is that none of all the press campaign of calumny bothers him.
Why would it when the people (EFCC & sanusi) who are conducting the probes never mentioned his name.[/quote]Why not just go ahead and share with us any credible and available documentation to back that up? Must you guys just talk and insult people's intelligence needlessly.

naijaking1:

Apart from Sanusi's public relation campaign to show his own relevance and different understanding of what a CBN governor ought to be doing, do you have any other evidence to support this stupidly shameful allegation?

What you labeled Sanusi's public relation campaign to show his own relevance exposed Soludo's incompetencies, ineffectiveness, gross neglect and total abdicated the duties. He basically presided over rot and concerted fleecing of the country's banking establishments.

He was in charge and the buck stops with him.

If he was negligent, don't you think Sanusi and EFCC would have been on his case a long time ago?

Unfortunately, they hardly charge and put people in jail for negligence, they fire them instead, just like they fired his weak, incompetent and negligent ass.

Propaganda and daily newspaper interviews don't convict people, so please wait until you or someone proves him negligent.

The obvious mess he left, the thieving bankers, rotten banks, and people losing their savings happens to be real life situation, not
propaganda my friend. People got hurt and the country's financial future and stability was jeopardized.

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Dede1:
I was visiting Associate Professor at Swarthmore College, USA, and promoted Professor of Economics at the age of 38 (University of Nigeria, Nsukka). I lived and worked in Ethiopia, U.K., and the USA and travelled to 45 other countries before joining Government in 2003. As consultant to 18 international organizations (including the World Bank, IMF, OECD Paris, European Union, African Union, USAID, UK-DFID, ADB, IBM Consulting, USA; IDRC Canada; Chemonics International, USA;  United Nations, UNIDO, ECOWAS, COMESA, CODESRIA, UNCTAD; AERC Nairobi) I garnered wide ranging experiences and knowledge. I was also the founding Executive Director of the African Institute for Applied Economics, Enugu. I have to my credit over 80 scholarly publications, 15 books, and over 250 monographs, conference papers and public lectures.

Any person who has read the above portions of Chukwuma Soludo’s curriculum vitae and still has the audacity to question the source of Soludo’s gubernatorial expenditures is a bona fide dullard 

The mere consultation fees of the four companies or organizations list above are enough for Soludo to run for presidency of Nigeria talk less of governorship

You can not substitute real life competency, sound judgment and credible managerial skills with education.

Dude was shamefully lousy and negligent managing a common government agency and you're advocating placing the lives of millions of people in his hands.


Can't help but question your own sense of judgment and rationality.

[quote author=Mr. Cartha link=topic=360788.msg5052238#msg5052238 date=1259980129]I for say so we get pple 4 9ja wey fit snap pix pass playboy magazine All the same, 4 we wey dey abroadna pride say we go dey come home to see our Eko like Ilu oyibo [/quote]All this within 2 years, just imagine wetin Fashola go turn lagos to by the time he comot from office, lagos go dey compete steadily with best capitals around the world,