₦airaland Forum

knight1k:
State ID? that's not a bad idea but, first before we need to ask ourselves few questions.
1)Why do we need State ID?


Tax system, law enforcement and public safety, banking and credit system, statistics and population control, it allows policy-makers to rationalize processes to implement schemes which balance the costs, budgeting and planning.

2)How do we go about it without the reflection of the late National ID scheme?


This has nothing to do with anything federal. States collects taxes and state officials and policy makers have every right to identify by whatever means tax payers within their states, either to access state benefits or for proper planning and budgeting.

3)What is the State ID Propaganda all about?

I have no clue, you mind explaining further?

We all need to wake up to the reality of Our time.

What reality of our time do we need to wake up to?

Identification system is the basic building block for any sane and civil society. How do you function effectively and provide good service if you don't know who is who and how many people you're budgeting and planning for? It's like fighting blindfolded with your hands tied behind your back.

paddy_lo-


Thumbs up!!

Keep doing what you're doing and don't mind the clowns.

They are anti lagos and will always find something to run their mouths about, you don't want to waste your time paying attention to their whining and crying.


Their villages and hamlets are bleeped up and they obviously have jealousy issues, we know them.

back2back:
Further example, who will determine data-protection? Lagos or FG?

Can such data be use for Political purpose?

what if PDP started this is aim to win people to AC from back door?

Most of our problems, we copy things from USA without thinking properly.

They get FG issues 'resident permit' to go about in Nigeria and not that from Lagos state.

From answers I have seen here, Fasola & his boys need more planning.

Good Luck!

So, should your listed concerns prevent or stop Lagos State Government from advancing, developing it's society and absorbing the immense benefits the ID program offers?

And when you say they need planning, what in particular are you talking about?

mekusxxx:
Where did you read where I said you can have two biometric IDs? What suggested to you that I do not know the meaning and component of a biometric system?

Olodo, is it not obvious? Abeg go back to school abi your university of employment,

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Eko o ni ba je of course,

lol, Abuja get's no love,

mekusxxx:
Lagos should be able to figure something out, a tall order I must add, given the pervasive corruption in Nigeria. I can proffer some suggestions, but definitely not in NL as Mekusxxx. It has to be the real me so that I can get credit for my work

See how I let you hang yourself?

Basically, you don't know wtf you're talking about or have any freeking solution, as usual, you're just running your mouth off just for the heck of it or to expose your ignorance and backward ways of thinking,

Why not just stick to your tribal rantings and paranoia and stay away from complicated issues like state IDs.

Ode university of employment, lmao.

mekusxxx:
ARE YOU KIDDING?

Kidding ke?


No, just trying to get to the bottom of the faking thing and figure out what the state should do to prevent faking,

mekusxxx:
Lagos needs to define who the ID is for, then we (they) can take it from there. It seems it is for residents and I support it 10000%. But how will Lagos prevent me, a non-resident, from getting the ID? They should sort that out.

Thanks, I see what you're saying.


So, defining who the ID is or not for will prevent faking?

mekusxxx:
BP,

First of all, is the ID for Lagos residents or Lagos citizens?
If for all residents then it is cool (1)
If citizens only, then it is not cool (2)
If 2, then a resident (non-citizen) who has lived in Lagos and pays his taxes for years may not take it kindly, especially if there is a benefit to owning the Id. He will get his own Id by any means possible, such as:

bribing the Lagos officials who are in charge; the officials take the resident's photo and fingerprint and eventually issues him with the ID. This has simply defeated the purpose for the ID, if the case is 1 above. This is the case with the current naija passport which is meant for Nigerian alone but which has now been isssued to other nationals by corrupt officials. So Lagos should first of all work on anything that will negate the purpose of the Id before proceeding.

Ok, Thanks for the clarification.


Now, what do you want the state to do?

mekusxxx:
Read one way or the other. Somebody who is not supposed to get the ID can get it. It does not have to be fake in itself, but it becomes so when in the wrong hands like I have explained. That is my simple logic. Live with it or take a plunge.

Ok, let's start from here,


Who is not supposed to get it?

And

Who is supposed to get it?

How is it going to get in the wrong hands?



Maybe I'm misunderstanding your logic,

mekusxxx:
You are a lesson in contradiction. You were the one who said Lagos ID cant be faked because it is going to be biometric and I was letting you know it can, one way or the other. Stop getting so easily confused.

So, you can fake other people's unique genetic ID right?

It's biometrics for a reason and they have scanners to detect fakes. I know your angle is tribal but please, stop going on and on like an illiterate,

mekusxxx:
BP,

Follow the trend. My first question was, is the ID for residents or for citizens of Lagos? If for residents then it is ok for all Residents. If for citizens, then it won't work (for the purpose it is being created) because of forgery. Instead of being realistic you are talking about negativity? If you prevent an hausa who has been living in Lagos and paying taxes in Lagos and can speak Yoruba from getting the ID card from the official source, then he can get it by bribing. His fingerprint does not say he is hausa. Stop thinking that any opposing view is against you or your interest. This is a forum, ok?

Being realistic is realizing that there is no way to prevent faking.

They fake documents all over the world and it shouldn't stop any responsible government from going ahead with innovations like ID system, the benefits is immeasurable in terms of tax system, data and statistics, law enforcement and public safety, credit system, employment and many more.

So, why are you going on and on about fake Nigerian passports in Niger?


You're not being realistic, you're simply hopelessly paranoid,

mekusxxx:
Thanks for helping BP. Fingerprint no get tribe. Yoruba ID official collect owo from Igbo trader, take his photo and fingerprint and baptize him with a Yoruba name. Shikena. Bottom line, tackle bribery and corruption first before these things. I read somewhere that many citizens of Niger Republic now hold Nigeria's Biometric passport.

Ode, faking documents is not a new thing, even here in the US, they fake everything from drivers license to passports and it's still not preventing them from developing, advancing and reaping the immense benefits it provides.

Some of you negative folks think like cave men I swear, No way naija no go remain backward with warped thinking people like you in power.

It's like your whole existence is based on self defeatist and can't do attitude. I wonder how you go trough life gan sef,

tubabie:
Your finger prints and a clear picture of your whole face with your ears showing

i know, I was asking the clueless guy. The point I was trying to make is, You can not fool biometrics, It's like trying to fool your DNA and they have scanners to detect fakes.

mekusxxx:
BP,

See how it works. A Yoruba official in the proposed ID office will collect money from an Igbo trader in Alaba, take his digital passport photo and other necessary details required for a biometric document, and then give him the processed ID, with a Yoruba name on it. No be Yoruba man again? Your ear still dey pain you?

You fit give person headache with your rubbish.


Btw, what's required for a biometric document,

mekusxxx:
BP,
I am telling you that those Lagosions involved in the ID process are the ones who will prepare for, and sell the biometric ID to others. Your ear they pain you?

Do you even know the meaning of biometrics?

mekusxxx:
Alaba or Oluwole? Stay there Ode. Even the biometric Naija passport is now being abused.

You rants are always predictable, same meaningless nonsense as usual.

dancewith:
This is a bad joke. simply insane is Nigeria. This is a country that has millions of youths & old unemployed and you are busy plotting an ID scheme. For what? What purpose will be serve that the national ID, Passport or Drivers Licence will not serve If you issue the IDs this month, by next month ten of thousands that will enter the state what will be their fate?? Ok so you will ask them to grab a card too? At whose cost. What of people like some of us abroad that returns to Lagos periodically. Will I now be discriminated against once in Lagos without a card? or must i get the card, even though i ve got a passport, for the duration of my stay? for what use? In a country without roads, electricity, food, shelter, good water, we are talking of a useless ID card when we already have 3 IDs that cannot be managed!!!! What will stop the Negerians from grabbing the cards too at a token bribe? Crazy. Mr Fashola, you are badly advised here

With thinking like yours, no country or state go ever advance.

mekusxxx:
Is this a Lagos citizen's ID or Lagos resident's ID? News report versus NL Topic!!!!

In a country filled with certificate forgers. You can get Lagos ID in Aba. Even sef, na Lagos people go sell ID to others. No sweat, as this is another waste of money

No business for your alaba folks here, you can't fool biometrics,

Kobojunkie:
The tone of my posts? Why READ the tone when you can simply read the posts, as is? I have from post one, asked of how much of the funding from the project comes from the STATE ( even gave the reason for my asking the question), and that question is still up in the air to this point.  Forgive me here, but I still don't see the WHY to what you have been driving at to this point. Why is my asking this question, somehow considered wrong?

But you ask the same ridiculous questions and the tone is always like the "Lagos state government is pulling a fast one, their priorities are messed up, they are hiding something, they are trying to steal money.


You do nothing but  divert all positive threads about lagos state with your blind obsessive hatred.

Same with eko atlantic

Same with Lekki airport

Same with the state's electric car program


You play the same silly game all the time,

Kobo-

You're still on your anti Lagos crusade masquerading like you give a crap about lagos or who's paying for what?

Your angle is played out.


What's next? Who's paying for the petrol inside Fashola's official car?


Drop the silliness and get a life,

As expected, the disgruntled elements are in full disgruntled mode fighting and squabbling over irrelevances.


Btw, well said A. Emeka.

Eko o ni baje of course,

sjeezy8:
If you want to honour your dead then make a museum exhibit in ABJ or in the East, art gallery, etc statues for the Dead. . . . .

They don't know how to, this is how the Yoruba folks they love to hate do it,


http://happylagosian..com/2009/07/obafemi-awolowo-museum-epe-lagos.html

mekusxxx:
BP,

A university is not a higher institution? Continue with your senseless defense of lies.

Prove that the use of ''university of employment'' to depict the fact that I work in a university is wrong. Olodo Babapupa and Sagamite trained at Yaba Tech, the '' 27th oldest higher institution in the world''

Higher institution is basically anything above HS/Secondary School and again, Yaba Tech claimed oldest higher institution, not oldest university so your little link is useless and irrelevant.

Try again, you can do it,

lol @ the Igbo man's never ending desire to negate @ the same time  compete with Yoruba people. Obviously, Yoruba people are way above this petty bitching, moaning and jealousy.

I know the fact that Yoruba people are way ahead of you guys and will always be drives you guys nuts, but hey, these are the breaks, it's destiny and you can't do nothing much but gripe, bitch and moan.


When was the last time you open thread dedicated to your people/highlight their achievements and whatever good they have going on over there? Your needless and senseless tribal baiting threads are obviously designed to showcase your insecurities and  shortcomings as a person and by extension per other igbo folks with similar mindsets on this board, group of people.

You pay Yoruba folks too much unsolicited attention that you neglect your own people as if they don't exist, irrelevant and what ever good they are doing/achievements means nothing to you and ain't worth talking about and showcasing. Yoruba people are OK, they don't care if you eat yellow or white garri with your ogbono.

The desire to have sleepless nites and display your insecurities per Yoruba people trumps you, your people, way of life and culture.

All the useless and needless hand me down anti Yoruba garbage is doing nothing but breeding hateful and mindless zombies with zero sense of self worth and life compass. Pay attention to yourselves for a change.

You are your own worst enemy and the joke is on you. My friend,



Get a life and find something worthwhile to do with your time,

mekusxxx:
Babapupa,

Ok I see where your problem lies: comprehension

University of employment = place of employment. That is simple English language construction that I often make which simple minds like yours find difficult to fathom.

I have a list of more than 500 oldest universities and Yaba tech in not among those

Dude, Yaba tech claimed the oldest higher institution, not oldest university. Give your fatigued brain a rest,


lol @ university of employment.

mekusxxx:
If it makes no difference to you, why are you bothered with the topic?

I do not need to prove them wrong, they are dead wrong and lying.

like i said, I care not. I enter thread because of "university of employment?

And why are you bending like crayfish and questioning them? Since you can't and wont prove them wrong, it's safe to conclude that hey got their facts right and you got yours wrong and you're just b!thing for nothing,


Till you prove them wrong, you are the lair,

mekusxxx:
Babapupa,

Is it that difficult to answer the simple question? Do you prefer prolonging the lies?

1. It makes no difference to me

2. Prove them wrong. Minus your university of employment of course.

^^^ Please disregard the post above yours, I didn't see you coming and I can't be bothered with another dumb MEND talk.

Must everything be about you? This thread is about Lagos state's ID program, go start your own silly MEND thread and call beef and the rest of your MEND gang to join in and have a good time.