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@Babs

U be imam?

Why the question ma'am?

@Noetic

who was the allah that mohammed`s father worshipped?

He didnt worship Allah but idol.

who is allah`s wife called "allat"?

Its a lie. Its one of the goddess you people ignorantly called daughters of Allah

who are their three children?

Read

On daughters of Allah:

Quran 53 v 19: Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza,

Quran 53 v 20: And another, the third (goddess), Manat?

Quran 53 v 21: What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female?

Quran 53 v 22: Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!

Quran 53 v 23: T[b]hese are nothing but names which ye have devised,- ye and your fathers,- for which Allah has sent down no authority (whatever).[/b] They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire!- Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord!

how does all this connect to mohammeds allah?

So, over to you:

1. what is the cognates relation between olu/oluwa(yoruba), god, lord and God semantically.

2. Anlyse the words "LAILAHI ILA ALAH"

3. how would you differentiate god from God if not written down in english.

4. why there is no other translation for ELOI/ELOHIM from the bible original language up till now

5. why this word ALLAH in Arabic bible?

@Noetic

the day u start answering my questions, rain will start falling in the desert.

You are becoming civil these days . Keep it my dear friend. Which of your questions answers have not been provided?

@Davidylan

John 14: 12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. 13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Go siddon somewhere . T.B. Joshua and the likes of Oyakhilome have been deceiving you using the above verse. Oga, what do you really understand by miracle? Is it a thing one except or happens miraculously?

Jesus never assembled people that he wanted to perform miracle but its a thing that happened in which you didnt plan for. Your pastors assemble people, telling them that they want to perform miracle, is that the way Jesus did his?

Also with reference to the above verse, have you for one day ponder on another verse that says, if you have faith as small as mustard seed, you would command the mountain to move and it would but none has been able to achieve this, even your pastors.

Also Jesus said that you would trample on serpents, drink poisons and it would not harm you, christians have died and still dying as result of this. They have been asking this in his name but nothing has happened. Mind you, with reference to the above, you should be able to perform signs and wonders since you are doing that in his name but how come you have not been able to considering the fact that you have faith and call his name?

Yeye set of people . Dont let me go into unfulfilled prophecies from your bible cos you would not find it funny.

no

Oga,have you not raised similar issue in another thread where I provided answers and asked you to explain some terms in atheism and agnostic but you never did till today. Do one keep explaining to you afterall,you are more intelligent than Davidylan

Answers have been provided times without number but I will still answer you but before I go on,I will need facts on the wife of Allah,the daughters etc. With regards to your response above,why cant bible authors remove the word from the bible after realizing the truth?

What questions have I not answered and how many times have you pretended not to have seen response despite repetition?

@Noetic

You are still being evasive. You didnt answer the question

Go to Gideon bible and look at the page where it was translated to Arabic
Why do we have the word in Arabic bible?
Why do Northern christians call Him Allah?

That is because of the mohammed islamic deception. until i researched the true origin of allah, I also thought that he/it was the bible GOD.
but on further analyses I realised it was a fraud and an elevation of one of the 360 gods of arabia.

Did Muslims put the word in your bible?

@Noetic

didnt todak answer ur questions? Huh Huh Huh

of course u wouldnt consider his answers cos the questions were not from ur brain initially.

why is reasoning now an uncommon habit?

how many of my questions have u ever answered?

Yes he did that and was exposed further from lifting response form his website:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-256685.32.html

Bastage is back. Lets read more from you

@Noetic

please stop this unfortunate misinformation. where in ur deluded dreams did u c allah in the holy bible?

Go to Gideon bible and look at the page where it was translated to Arabic
Why do we have the word in Arabic bible?
Why do Northern christians call Him Allah?

@Todak

@babs
I doubt if you listen to yourself before you post, you look like someone who has brain short-sightedness, you have been brain drained that you can not distingush the truth form false, ok i will ask youn these question and you answer tham:

Where do we have the highest number of Terrorist camps in the world?
Which religion do they claim to profese?
Who are their sponsorers?
Whom do they attack most and why?

you need to tell me position of terrorists in the quran, will they be rewarded or punished.

do not send lies to me ok. Wink Wink

In other words, you are commending osama for a job well done, was that the first time America would place a check on which ever country they wish, or are you not aware they are the current world power? well, if Iraq or Afghanistan was in the same position as US today, they will do worse than that, America is the leader of the free world and as a leader, they protect and sanction which ever country is in need of it. so that is not an excuse and not the answer to my question. mr.blabs

@babs
this question is for you, do not hide now, or noncahlant about it.

Which question sir, are you referring to the one my dear brothers answered?
Maybe you could still tell us why US supports/supplies Ammunition to Israel but goes against that with Palestine?
You could still tell us why Osama was a friend to US but later turned to her enemy?
You could still tell us why US allows Israel to have Nuclear weapon but doesnt want Iran, South Korea to have same?

A true Muslim can never be deceived by the 'world'

my dear sister, if one want to be a good believer and have better understanding of this religion. First, purification of intention is very important, that is, an undiluted sincerity. Next is working in the path of shaadah, that is testification that none has the right to be worshipped except Allah, alone, with no partner. Hold to reading Quran and Hadeeth and seek for clearity wherever you are confused. However, beware of many Isalmic teachers coz they too can be misleading. Prophet says, one of the calamities I fear after my demise are misleading scholars(Al-hulamaaul Mudholun). Thereby, he warn us of innovation in religion, always seek clearity on anything outside hadeeth and Quran and I believe you shall be guided.

True talk

@Todak

1. Who was the father of Uzziah?

Joram (Matthew 1:8
Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1)

With this in mind, it can easily be shown that Amaziah was the immediate father of Uzziah (also called Azariah). Joram/Jehoram, on the other hand, was Uzziah's great-great-grandfather and a direct ascendant. The line goes Joram/Jehoram - Ahaziah - Joash - Amaziah - Azariah/Uzziah (2 Chronicles 21:4-26:1).

Good job thanks to www.answering-Islam.com where you culled your answers from dressing them to be your own8).

Let us read please:

Matthew 1:8:

American Standard Version
and Asa begat Jehoshaphat; and Jehoshaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Uzziah;

Compare this:


2 Chronicles 26:1

King James Bible
Then all the people of Judah took Uzziah, who was sixteen years old, and made him king in the room of his father Amaziah.

American King James Version
Then all the people of Judah took Uzziah, who was sixteen years old, and made him king in the room of his[b] father Amaziah.[/b]

Todak, which should we take?
Read here again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzziah_of_Judah

2. How many fighting men were found in Judah?

Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

The more likely answer, however, is that one census includes categories of men that the other excludes. It is quite conceivable that the 1 Chronicles 21:5 figure included all the available men of fighting age, whether battle-seasoned or not, whereas the 2 Samuel 24:9 account is speaking only of those who were ready for battle. Joab's report in 2 Samuel 24 uses the word 'is hayil, which is translated as "mighty men", or battle-seasoned troops, and refers to them numbering 800,000 veterans. It is reasonable that there were an additional 300,000 men of military age kept in the reserves, but not yet involved in field combat. The two groups would therefore make up the 1,100,000 men in the 1 Chronicles 21 account which does not employ the Hebrew term 'is hayil to describe them.

These are the verses again:

(2 Samuel 24:9) - "And Joab gave the number of the registration of the people to the king; and there were in Israel eight hundred thousand valiant men who drew the sword, and the men of Judah were five hundred thousand men.

(1 Chronicles 21:5) - "And Joab gave the number of the census of all the people to David. And all Israel were 1,100,000 men who drew the sword; and Judah was 470,000 men who drew the sword."


TODAK, there is nowhere in the above passage that says 300, 000 men were reseved.

3. Did Jesus bear his own cross?

Yes (John 19:17)
No (Matthew 27:31-32)

hmmmmm, you have what i call Grammatical dysfunction, Each writer focuses on a different part of the events, those events that help tell the story to the people to whom they are writing. Each gives different details. They are not contradicting each other, they are just pointing out different facts. Thus John tells us that Jesus started out bearing his cross while Matthew, Mark, and Luke mention that somewhere along the way they forced a man named Simon to carry the cross for him. Jesus did carry the cross untill He was unable to carry it and had fallen, they then grabbed Simon, from Cyrene, and forced him to help carry the cross. You believe what you want to believe. It is a shame that you are only reading the Bible to find mistakes and to mock those of us with faith.

Todak, so you couldnt think for yourslef but ferreting response frm your website

Let us read the verses again:

Mark 15:21: And they compelled a passerby, Simon of Cyrene, who was coming in from the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to carry his cross.
So also is Matthew 27:32 and Luke 23:26

BUT

John 19:17: And he went out, bearing his own cross, to the place called The Place of a Skull, which in Aramaic is called Golgotha.


The first verse said Simon carried it for him while the second verse said he did by himself. Which do we accept since christian claim that Jesus bear his own cross mraning that nobody helped him to carry it?


TRY HARDER PLEASE

4. Did Jesus die before the curtain of the temple was torn?


Yes (Matthew 27:50-51; Mark lS:37-38)
No. After the curtain was torn, then Jesus crying with a loud voice, said, Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit! And having said this he breathed his last (Luke 23:45-46)

After reading the three passages Matthew 27:50-51, Mark 15:37-38 and Luke 23:45-46, it is not clear where the apparent contradictions are that you hava pointed out. All three passages point to the fact that at the time of Jesus' death the curtain in the temple was torn. It does not stand to reason that because both Matthew and Mark mention the event of Christ's death before mentioning the curtain tearing, while Luke mentions it in reverse order, that they are therefore in contradiction, as Matthew states that the two events happened, 'At that moment', and the other two passages nowhere deny this.

They all agree that these two events happened simultaneously for a very good reason; for the curtain was there as a barrier between God and man. Its destruction coincides with the death of the Messiah, thereby allowing man the opportunity for the first time since Adam's expulsion from God's presence at the garden of Eden, to once again be reunited with Him.

RUBBISH. You lifted everyting from that website (you and I know the site) word for word

COULD THE ABOVE STATEMENT BE TRUE?

Mark and Matthew agreed that Jesus died before the curtain was torn while Luke said na lie, Jesus died after the curtain was torn.

5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?

Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)

The two examples of numerical discrepancy here have to do with a decade in the number given. Ahaziah is said to have been 22 in 2 Kings 8:26; while in 2 Chronicles 22:2 Ahaziah is said to have been 42. Fortunately there is enough additional information in the Biblical text to show that the correct number is 22. Earlier in 2 Kings 8:17 the author mentions that Ahaziah's father Joram ben Ahab was 32 when he became King, and he died eight years later, at the age of 40. Therefore Ahaziah could not have been 42 at the time of his father's death at age 40! Such scribal errors do not change Jewish or Christian beliefs in the least. In such a case, another portion of scripture often corrects the mistake (2 Kings 8:26 in this instance). We must also remember that the scribes who were responsible for the copies were meticulously honest in handling Biblical texts. They delivered them as they received them, without changing even obvious mistakes, which are few indeed.

Why must there be mistakes in the inspirational book of God?

If truly, the bible is inspired, there shouldn’t be anything happening to the copies because they would have been protected by God as in:

Quran 2v23: and if you (arab pagans, jews, and Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down (the Quran) to Our Slave (Muhammed (saw), then produce a Surah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allah if you are truthful

Quran 10v38: Or do they say :”Muhammed (saw) has forged it?” say: “bring then a Surah (chapter) like unto it, and call upon whosoever you can besides Allah if you are truthful.


Quran 11v13: or do they say,” He (Prophet Muhammed saw) forged it? (the Quran)? Say,”bring you then ten (10) forged Surahs (chapters) like unto it, and call whomever you can, other than Allah (to your help), if you speak the truth”.

If you are saying the bible is complete

1. which is complete, the protestants (66 books) or catholics (73 books)

That is your problem, I only know of one bible, The Holy Bible which contains 66 books, i do not have any knowledge of any catholic bible having 73 books.

2. If the bible is complete, where are these verses in Revised Standard Version, Good News Bible, New International Bible, Living Bible Versions and other bibles apart from KJV

a.Mathew 17 v 21 (b) mark 11 v 26 (c) acts 8 v 37 (d) Mathew 17 v 21 (e) Mathew 21 v 44 (f) Mathew 23 v 14 etc

Well, I do not know of this but I do not use any other bible rather than the King James Version, and that is your crab to break but it does not change anything about the truth.

3. If the bible is complete

a.
Numbers 21:14 Wherefore it is said in the book of the wars of the Lord, What he did in the Red sea, and in the brooks of Arnon,

where is the Book of the Wars of the Lord? The book of the wars of the Lord - This seems to have been some poem or narration of the wars and victories of the Lord, either by: or relating to the Israelites: which may be asserted without any prejudice to the integrity of the holy scripture, because this book doth not appear to have been written by a prophet, or to be designed for a part of the canon, which yet Moses might quote.

Joshua 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

2 Samuel 1:18 (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)

where is the Book of Jasher?

where is the Book of Samuel the Seer and Gad the Seer?

d.1 Chronicles 29:29 Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Samuel the seer, and in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the book of Gad the seer,…

where is the book of Nathan the Prophet?

e. 2 Chronicles 9:29 Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat?

Where is the prophecy of Ahijah and Shilonite and the visions of Iddo the Seer?

f.2 Chronicles 12:15 Now the acts of Rehoboam, first and last, are they not written in the book of Shemaiah the prophet, and of Iddo the seer concerning genealogies? And there were wars between Rehoboam and Jeroboam continually.

Where is the Book of Shemaiah, the prophet?

g.2 Chronicles 20:34 Now the rest of the acts of Jehoshaphat, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Jehu the son of Hanani, who is mentioned in the book of the kings of Israel.

Where is the Book of Jehu?

h.2 Chronicles 26:22 Now the rest of the acts of Uzziah, first and last, did Isaiah the prophet, the son of Amoz, write.

Where is the Acts of Uzziah?
These are no questions for me to answer, ask God why he did not add the book of Jasher, book of Nathan the Prophet? and others to the bible.
But there is one thing thats is sure, the Foundation of the Lord standeth sure, and the Lord knows those who are his.

You have limited knowledge hence looking for answers in the website. I have answered the rebuttal you posted here in one of the threads. Why do you claim that its 100% inspired words of God when there are undeniable contradictions therein?

Also Psalm19:7 "the word of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul:the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple", Psalm 12:6 "The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in the furnance of earth, purified seven times." And like i said in my earlier post, they do notb hold water, they are baseless.

Its a lie, where are the pure words with regards to the missing verses and the contradictions.

It has been established that you dont know the bible, so try to call your brothers in the like of David, Noetic etc to help you out.

@Lady


I didnt know that you replied and let me quickly go through your post.

I didn't come to anyone's resecue, I answered your question.

Ok. thanks for that.

Your question was where was Jesus crucified, jerusalem or outside? I gave you the answer by telling you Golgotha the place of the skull. Do you wish to know where Golgotha is?

Oh, you did answered my question but your answer wasnt complete, was it crucified in Jerusalem or outside please?

To be completely honest, I too have been frustrated by you guys, you really do not answer the questions, and I believe I've told you about this. So I decided not to even bother, because all I was doing is hitting my head on the wall and giving myself a bruise and blaming you guys for the bruise.

Lets come to common terms, could you please direct me to the thread you asked question and I didnt answer you or you repost the question again please?

But just to give you a rundown of the passion of Christ.
The agony in the garden of gethsemane is from 11pm to 3am, at which time Judas betrays him and he is carried away. sof rom 3am to 9am he is in custody of the jews, and he's going through the trial before the sanhedrin and pilate. 9am he carries his cross, and right before 12noon he reaches golgotha and is nailed on the cross, at which time darkness covers the land until 3pm when he breathes his last and then the great earthquake and the tearing of the veil in the temple, and all that. Hope that helps.

I am highly interested in your above quote hence my bringing it up again.
In summary, you claimed that
Agony in gethsemane --------------- 11 pm to 3am
In custody of the Jews----------------3am  to 9am
Carried his cross ----------------------- 9am
Reached Golgotha, nailed-------------12noon
Died ---------------------------------------3pm


Let us look at the verses below:

About the sixth hour …they shouted, "Take him away! Take him away! Crucify him!" (John 19:14-15 NIV)

The above verse made us known that he was being taken away at the sixth hour (9am-12pm) and crucified around ninth hour while the verse below:

And it was the third hour [/b]when they crucified Him. (Mark 15:25)

told us that he was crucified at the [b]third hour (6am-9am)

Lets look at the meaning of the third, sixth and ninth hour:

Third hour-------------6am-9am
Sixth hour-------------9am-12pm
Ninth Hour------------12pm-3pm


Lady, since you claimed that he was nailed by 12noon, kindly read the verses below:

Luke 23:33 And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him,

44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.

We learnt that he was crucified before the sixth hour (9am - 12pm) which is third hour (6-9am) as against your 12noon falling between sixth and ninth hour.

Lady, having read in the above verses that he was crucified at the third hour (6am - 9am), below are verses showing us that he was not crucified at the third hour but ninth hour:

John 19:14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King

15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.

16 Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.

Lady, from the above, we could read a verse claiming that he was crucified at the sixth hour (6am - 9am) while other verses claimed that he was crucified around the ninth hour (12pm-3pm) because form the verses above, he was still held by pilate around that sixth hour but you claimed that he was crucified by 12noon and died by 3pm far from the verses that he was crucified at the third hour (6am - 9am).

I need further clarification please.

@Noetic

This happened to be your post:

Quote
thou deluded slave of allah. . . . please show ONE thread (which I was involved in) where u displayed ONE fact.

I gave you some threads where I tendered facts and asked you to explain but you went further by saying:

hey. . . .

please hear urself, I should show u proofs that the RUBBISH he said are NOT facts? LOL

WHAT IS THE RELEVANCE OF ANY OF THE RUBBISH HE SAID IN THOSE THREADS?

Claiming that the links are rubbish. Well I am not surprised that the rubbish are from your bible. Since you want to deny the uneniable facts, let me reframe it for you

Where I asked you to explain the contradictions and some stuff:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-256685.0.html

These are part of the facts culled from the link above which you couldnt answer:

1. Who was the father of Uzziah?

Joram (Matthew 1:
Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1)

2. How many fighting men were found in Judah?

Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

If you are saying the bible is complete

2. If the bible is complete, where are these verses in Revised Standard Version, Good News Bible, New International Bible, Living Bible Versions and other bibles apart from KJV

a.Mathew 17 v 21 (b) mark 11 v 26 (c) acts 8 v 37 (d) Mathew 17 v 21 (e) Mathew 21 v 44 (f) Mathew 23 v 14 etc

I could remember you asking me in the thread to furnish you the verses in which I did but nothing came forth from you. Now how come the verses are missing in other versions but present in KJV and when we looked at the original manuscript, it didnt exist, so where did KJV got its own from?

I asked you on Easter celebration and the contradiction in time he was crucified and other issues here:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-260703.0.html

The above link is for Easter celebration which has no basis in christianity but PAGAN Celebration. Jesus didnt fulfil the three days and three nights prophecy and if you think he did kindly do the calculation for me. Note that he was buried on Friday but rose on Sunday morning.

Here are part of the questions, facts form your bible you called RUBBISH

Please do the three days and three nights calculation for me. Jesus died on Friday but resurrected on Sunday morning.

The gospels contradict themselves on this matter. John says Jesus was crucified at noon, while Mark says it was the third hour, or 9:00 a.m. (Jn 19.14, Mk 15.25). In any event, Jesus spent from three to six hours hanging from a cross, torture that traditionally was survived for three to six days."

Jesus' last words, according to Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34, were to quote Psalm 22, 'My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?' "But Luke has Jesus quote psalm 31: 'Father, into your hands I commend my spirit'. [Also] John's account, in which Jesus says [, ] 'It is finished' [John 19:28-30]"Freke & Gandy, p173. It seems that Jesus' disciples do not know his last words.

I asked you about Ishmael age and the promised child here
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-260708.0.html

I asked you about Ishmael, his age and the promised child in the above link. One of said that Ishmael might have had may have some form of profound mental retardation or delayed developmental milestone while Olaadegbu tried interpreting the verses wrongly claiming that biy was not put on Hagars back/shoulder but handed to her but I had to give him some versions claiming that a 17 year boy was put on the shoulder:

14-21

14 Early next morning Abraham took some food and a full water-skin and gave them to Hagar. [b]He set the child on her shoulde[/b]r and sent her away, and she wandered about in the wilderness of Beersheba.

I asked you on crucifixion here:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-260724.0.html

When was Jesus cruficied, where was he crucified and what time?

Lastly, on missing verses:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-260713.0.html

The above on missing verses. Deny the facts.

@Davidylan

u're even worse . . . todak asked SPECIFIC questions . . . who are Amos, Malachi and Haggai in the context of the quran? Where are their writings?

Oladigbolu did the usual islamic al taqiya and fled.

I can see that you are sick in the head? Which posts came first? How many of my threads have you answered especially the one you lied in Zechariah 12.?

Oladigbolu @ 3.11 pm

The greatest un-doing of any unsecure christian is to result to calling names and abscribing un-warranted statements, why do they get fridgety when the truth is spoken particularly when the truth is starring right in their face?, tell me for a fact where this so called christianity originated from?, and also, tell me who really is sent to preach the religion?, also, what happens to those other prophets?, also, the claim of jesus being God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit. who are we kidding?, you will practically know without being told that God is one, and jesus makes references to only but one God Almighty. Sorry Mr. david the loser.

Todak @ 4.17pm

hey, where were you when we treated that, go and ask your fellow muslim babs, to give you the fact. and from your question, i derived mine, so where did islam originated from?, tell me who really is sent to preach the religion?, also, what happens to those other prophets like Amos, Malachi, Haggai, John the bapstist and others that were mentioned in the bible, in the quran?, also tell about the three daughters of your pagan diety Allah, the moon god, tell me about aisha muhammad's child bride. you have a lot of crab to crack, if you interfere you will run at last. ok

Sort it out, dullard.

horus' confused!

Nope, went to Atheist's archive to bring 'additional facts'

@Todak

Are the questions too hard for you because I noticed that your brothers, Davidylan and Noetic couldnt bail you out.

Please do justice to these issues in your book and when done, let me have the issues you claimed I have not answered.

1. Who was the father of Uzziah?

Joram (Matthew 1:
Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1)

2. How many fighting men were found in Judah?

Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

3. Did Jesus bear his own cross?

Yes (John 19:17)
No (Matthew 27:31-32)

4. Did Jesus die before the curtain of the temple was torn?

Yes (Matthew 27:50-51; Mark lS:37-38)
No. After the curtain was torn, then Jesus crying with a loud voice, said, Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit! And having said this he breathed his last (Luke 23:45-46)

5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?

Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)


If you are saying the bible is complete

1. which is complete, the protestants (66 books) or catholics (73 books)

2. If the bible is complete, where are these verses in Revised Standard Version, Good News Bible, New International Bible, Living Bible Versions and other bibles apart from KJV

a.Mathew 17 v 21 (b) mark 11 v 26 (c) acts 8 v 37 (d) Mathew 17 v 21 (e) Mathew 21 v 44 (f) Mathew 23 v 14 etc

3. If the bible is complete

a.
Numbers 21:14 Wherefore it is said in the book of the wars of the Lord, What he did in the Red sea, and in the brooks of Arnon,

where is the Book of the Wars of the Lord?

b.Joshua 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

2 Samuel 1:18 (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)

where is the Book of Jasher

c.1 Chronicles 29:29 Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Samuel the seer, and in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the book of Gad the seer,

where is the Book of Samuel the Seer and Gad the Seer?

d.1 Chronicles 29:29 Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Samuel the seer, and in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the book of Gad the seer,…

where is the book of Nathan the Prophet?

e. 2 Chronicles 9:29 Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat?

Where is the prophecy of Ahijah and Shilonite and the visions of Iddo the Seer?

f.2 Chronicles 12:15 Now the acts of Rehoboam, first and last, are they not written in the book of Shemaiah the prophet, and of Iddo the seer concerning genealogies? And there were wars between Rehoboam and Jeroboam continually.

Where is the Book of Shemaiah, the prophet?

g.2 Chronicles 20:34 Now the rest of the acts of Jehoshaphat, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Jehu the son of Hanani, who is mentioned in the book of the kings of Israel.

Where is the Book of Jehu?

h.2 Chronicles 26:22 Now the rest of the acts of Uzziah, first and last, did Isaiah the prophet, the son of Amoz, write.

Where is the Acts of Uzziah?

@Todak

@oladigbolu
hey, where were you when we treated that, go and ask your fellow muslim babs, to give you the fact. and from your question, i derived mine, so where did islam originated from?, tell me who really is sent to preach the religion?, also, what happens to those other prophets like Amos, Malachi, Haggai, John the bapstist and others that were mentioned in the bible, in the quran?, also tell about the three daughters of your pagan diety Allah, the moon god, tell me about aisha muhammad's child bride. you have a lot of crab to crack, if you interfere you will run at last. ok

He asked you questions but you couldnt but resorted to spewing rubbish? Answer his questions and I would come in with facts. You still havent answered the questions I raised for you in the thread solely for you and myself.

Coward

@Olaadegbu

Having gone through your post I have now seen how desperate you are trying to look for contradictions in the Bible, which you don't believe, when there are none.

Please I want to get you very clear here. Are you saying there are no contradictions in that book called bible?

Davidylan, todak, Noetic and No2atheism ignored you because they knew that you were only trying to ridicule the Bible and not because you believe that it is the inspired word of God, but because of the benefit of those who may be led astray I will be making a few notes of my observations that shows you that your argument holds no water.

Spare that excuse please. cWehre have you been when your brothers have been posting lies here and there, pretending not to see when answers were provided. You could tell that to your folks but not  me and you that claimed to be their Messiah, have you been able to debunk my claim in that thread on deification of Jesus?

They couldnt answer because they have no answers and you that answered also got it wrong. I would give you versions to see who lied between you and your bible.

Let us consider the text in Genesis 21:14-21
Genesis 21:14-21 (King James Version)

Ok.

Starting from verse 14, Abraham put a bottle of water and bread on the shoulder of Hagar and also gave her the child.  It was the custom of Egyptians for their women to carry burdens on the shoulder and for men to carry them on the head, and Hagar being an Egyptian given to Sarah by Pharoah (Gen.12:16-20; 16:3) and through her the Ishmaelites were of the Egyptian stock.  Careful observance of Scripture will notice that the verse did not say that Ishmael was placed on Hagar's shoulder, it could be read that Ishmael was given to Hagar or that Abraham placed similar burdens on him.  Even though Ishmael was said to be a child that does not imply that he was a baby because God called him a lad in verses 12, 17, 18, 19, 20, and the mother even took a wife for him, so definately he was of marriageable age, at least 19 (Gen.17:1,25; 21:5,.

You claimed in the above that Ishmael was not put on Hagar backs but let us quickly peruse some versions of the book to see the truth:

Does it mean that the boy cannot fend for himself at that age?
Do you say these versions are lying?

KJV

21:14 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave [it] unto Hagar, putting [it] on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba.


Genesis 21

14-21

14 Early next morning Abraham took some food and a full water-skin and gave them to Hagar. He set the child on her shoulder and sent her away, and she wandered about in the wilderness of Beersheba.


Read this too:[/b]from [b]NRSV

14 Early next morning, Abraham took some bread and a skin of water and, giving them to Hagar, put the child on her shoulder and sent her away. She wandered off into the desert of Beersheba.

Which should we take? Can a 17 year old kid be put on the shoulder?

@Noetic

thou deluded slave of allah. . . . please show ONE thread (which I was involved in) where u displayed ONE fact.

Where I asked you to explain the contradictions and some stuff:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-256685.0.html


I asked you on Easter celebration and the contradiction in time he was crucified and other issues here:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-260703.0.html

I asked you about Ishmael age and the promised child here
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-260708.0.html


I asked you on crucifixion here:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-260724.0.html

Lastly, on missing verses:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-260713.0.html

Now show me from any of this links where you have answered question(s)

@Todak

Funny being claiming that he would reply me when he has time. You have time to post lies that you have not been able to support with facts but does not have time to explain the glaring issues from your book.

Noetic could assist you and I remembered creating three threads challenging four of you in which none of you could discuss and answer simple questions.

Olodo set of people

Narrated Abu Huraira: "Allah's Apostle said, 'The evil eye is a fact,' and he forbade tattooing. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Dress, Volume 7, Book 72, Number 827)"


Narrated 'Abdullah bin Yazid Al-Ansari: "The Prophet forbade robbery (taking away what belongs to others without their permissio[b]n), and also forbade mutilation (or maiming) of bodies. [/b] (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Oppressions, Volume 3, Book 43, Number 654)"


Narrated 'Aun bin Abu Juhaifa: "My father bought a slave who practiced the profession of cupping. (My father broke the slave's instruments of cupping). I asked my father why he had done so. He replied, 'The Prophet forbade the acceptance of the price of a dog or blood, and also forbade the profession of tattooing, getting tattooed and receiving or giving Riba, (usury), and cursed the picture-makers.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Sales and Trade, Volume 3, Book 34, Number 299)"


Narrated 'Abdullah: "Allah has cursed those women who practise tattooing and those who get themselves tattooed, and those who remove their face hairs, and those who create a space between their teeth artificially to look beautiful, and such women as change the features created by Allah. Why then should I not curse those whom the Prophet has cursed? And that is in Allah's Book. i.e. His Saying: 'And what the Apostle gives you take it and what he forbids you abstain (from it).' (59.7) (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Dress, Volume 7, Book 72, Number 815)"

@Olaadegbu


All I ask of you is, how does the verse relates to TRINITY? You know me too well when it comes to your bible, so no game playing with but business as usual

Nlers would have seen that Noetic has a big problem and lacks sense of reasoning. Intelligent types provide facts and not stupid denials that lacks proof. He denies everything supplied but couldnt providf facts. Your big brothers and sisters know me better and my posts speak of me. I remembered David running away from the thread I created when he posted false prophecy in Zachariah. Another of your big brothers,Olaadegbu posted a verse linking it to Jesus and trinity but forgot never to lift out of context and that the verses were on a message from God to Isaiah and to stubborn Jacob and their non living Babylonian. I could remember creating threads for 4 of you but none of you is intelligent enough to debate with me but resorted to insult just like you did here showing the quality of a dullard.liar that couldnt hold a sensible discussion. I was a christian like you before seeing the light and am very sure that I must have been reading the bible than you. Wise up,you could do something before its too late. Accept ISLAM so as not to lose on D-DAY

@loverscmdr

Read more here. I have posted all you need to know here:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-17450.64.html

@Olaadegbu

Guess who the speaker here is;

Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

Isaiah 48:16

You have turned to Davidylan that interpretes the bible wrongly to suite his limited knowledge.

We know its God speaking here but lets find out who He was speaking to.

God was speaking to stubborn Israel, the house of Jacob and told Isaiah some things. I notice that you people pick verse out of context forgetting that you would not be able to understand one without reading the other parts. Here are the verses in details telling them to leave Babylonian and it has nothing to do with Jesus.

Isaiah 48 v

1 "Listen to this, O house of Jacob,
you who are called by the name of Israel
and come from the line of Judah,
you who take oaths in the name of the LORD
and invoke the God of Israel—
but not in truth or righteousness-

2 you who call yourselves citizens of the holy city
and rely on the God of Israel—
the LORD Almighty is his name:

3 I foretold the former things long ago,
my mouth announced them and I made them known;
then suddenly I acted, and they came to pass.

4 For I knew how stubborn you were;
the sinews of your neck were iron,
your forehead was bronze.

5 Therefore I told you these things long ago;
before they happened I announced them to you
so that you could not say,
'My idols did them;
my wooden image and metal god ordained them.'

6 You have heard these things; look at them all.
Will you not admit them?
"From now on I will tell you of new things,
of hidden things unknown to you.

7 They are created now, and not long ago;
you have not heard of them before today.
So you cannot say,
'Yes, I knew of them.'

9 For my own name's sake I delay my wrath;
for the sake of my praise I hold it back from you,
so as not to cut you off.

10 See, I have refined you, though not as silver;
I have tested you in the furnace of affliction.

12 "Listen to me, O Jacob,
Israel, whom I have called:
I am he;
I am the first and I am the last.

13 My own hand laid the foundations of the earth,
and my right hand spread out the heavens;
when I summon them,
they all stand up together.

God still speaking above to Isaiah

14 "Come together, all of you, and listen:
Which of the idols has foretold these things?
The LORD's chosen ally
will carry out his purpose against Babylon;
his arm will be against the Babylonians. [a]

16 "Come near me and listen to this:
"From the first announcement I have not spoken in secret;
at the time it happens, I am there."
And now the Sovereign LORD has sent me,
with his Spirit.

Isaiah telling us that God sent him and it has nothing to do with JESUS.

17[b] This is what the LORD says—
your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel:
"I am the LORD your God,
who teaches you what is best for you,
who directs you in the way you should go.[/b]

18 If only you had paid attention to my commands,
your peace would have been like a river,
your righteousness like the waves of the sea.


19 Your descendants would have been like the sand,
your children like its numberless grains;
their name would never be cut off
nor destroyed from before me."

LET US READ ON and you would see that it has nothing to do with Jesus but Isaiah and the house of Jacob telling them to leave Babylonian

20[b] Leave Babylon,
flee from the Babylonians!
Announce this with shouts of joy
and proclaim it.
Send it out to the ends of the earth;
say, "The LORD has redeemed his servant Jacob."[/b]

Noetic, Davidylan etc, I read the word 'servant' up.

21 They did not thirst when he led them through the deserts;
he made water flow for them from the rock;
he split the rock
and water gushed out.

22 "There is no peace," says the LORD, "for the wicked."
Isaiah 49
The Servant of the LORD
1 Listen to me, you islands;
hear this, you distant nations:
Before I was born the LORD called me;
from my birth he has made mention of my name.

I still read the word SERVANT above

You are welcome

These dullards are at it again. Posting lies but couldnt answer the threads opened for them on their faith.