₦airaland Forum

Igbos should stop using sentiments to analyse issues you can never reason properly with sentiments clouding your mind. Igbo land goes beyond the SE, part of Igbo land is included in the SS. Yorubaland extends into the NC and even to Togo and Benin Republic.

The SE geo-polical zone has a small land mass compare to other zones so it doesn't deserve another state. About 5 states in Nigeria is bigger than the entire SE. Even Ibadan people are clamouring for their own state that is people with even bigger land mass, Ijebu people are clamouring for their own state too. So Igbos of the SE extraction should be contempt with what they have and should be concerned with uniting with the igbos in the SS because the ones in the SS like to deny their Igbo nature.

The SE is not marginalized, an average Igbo person just feels they deserve the best over everyone else. The real marginalization is coming the elite over the ordinary masses.

I guess you live in the SE but I think there is too much hate filled Igbos than any other tribe in Nigeria. Not all but most, I don't want anybody to see this as tribalism,its just a fact. Maybe it's because of the scar left of by the Civil war but it's a fact so many Igbos are filled with hate.

Generally Speaking tribes from the South see poor Hausa people as inferior humans.

Adek15:
fair how? What is southeast lacking that other part of the country isn't lacking? Our leaders have failed us all. There are numerous peaceful ways to get Biafra. Damn!!! Igbos are a majority in this country and they contribute massively to both the negatives/positives of this nation

This is the same thing I have always told them, after spoiling the image of Nigeria abroad they want to go have their own country.

I always told them stop whinning, they are a majority tribe that doesn't know how to play politics and get what they want from Nigeria. Ijaw that was a minority tribe before has more influence in Nigeria than Igbos in the present Nigeria, they negotiate their way to get what they want.

For God sake Ndi-igbo was part of the major stakeholder in the forming of this country, take charge and get your own share from Nigeria.

If you want Biafra make it a 50 year plan to call your people and investments back to the SE under restructuring and regionalism and gradually plan your secession.

The way they are going about like the want to have Biafra next year and violently doing it will only spell doom for them.

They can't go ahead with Biafra without the Niger delta, they are landlocked and need their Oil.The Nigerdelta do not want to be second Class in another country, if they are leaving Nigeria is better than leave into a their own country.

They don't even have a concrete plan on how to achieve Biafra.

Obi1kenobi:
Yes. I'm sure a multinational oil company would be attracted to such a civilized community to develop their main base of operation.

While I appreciate the Niger-Delta do have legitimate grievances, they have to start understanding there's a limit to how productive these crude agitations are. Companies like Shell have been divesting their inland assets for sometime now and it should be concerning that Dangote decided to site his multi-billion dollar refinery, the single biggest investment in Nigeria's history, in Lagos even though Lagos produce no oil. He'd much rather increase his costs buying expensive land and laying expensive pipelines in cramped, over-populated, saturated state than invest his money in the ND. This is partly because of security concerns and the reputation of the region hasn't recovered from the days of kidnapping expatriates.

Oil is a finite resource and the value of Nigeria's industry is getting replaced by new extraction methods (like the shale revolution) and renewable energy around the globe. We are in the last years of the oil boom and if I were a Niger Delta citizen, I'd be hoping we create a welcoming business environment to exploit this productive period that is winding down. When your oil is exhausted or becomes redundant, you'll be regretting all your missed opportunities in a region that's fairly barren without oil.

You have spoken well but I only fault you when you said Lagos doesn't have oil, 10,000-15,000 bopd of oil is a marginal field and is small but it is still oil and can make revenue for the state and country no matter how little it is.

Gerrard59:
Well, Uyo is safe also if not the safest capital city East of the Niger. This incident can be frustration induced. Yes, ExxonMobil and subsidiaries have contributed a lot to the state (they have to actually), but having their HQTR in a place far away from their operational base is not fair. Yes, a private firm has the right to cite her HQTR wherever she deems fit, but that does not mean it's ethical. If they need a commercial city to conduct business, Port-Harcourt is there. A HQTR in PH is fair than Lagos.

Same ExxonMobil have their global HQTR in Texas, why not New York or San Francisco? This is because she has most of her operations in the US in Texas.

Like you said you cannot tell a Private company where to site his HQ the only thing they owe the indigenes of Akwa-ibom and the host community is the social responsibility to the community, anything else even the government cannot dictate to them, they are not Nigerian companies and they are doing Nigeria more favour than we are doing them.

Sitting the headquarters in Akwa-ibom doesn't change anything, they pay cooperate tax to the FG only income tax from workers will go to the state govt and that is small considering they don't have more than say 100 staffs in the HQ. They employ every ethnic group in Nigeria regardless of where you are from, it doesn't mean because it is located in Lagos they employ only Yoruba people or if it is located in Akwa-ibom they will employ only Akwa-ibomites.

9jakool:
They are classed as Yoruba

Awori too is Yoruba but he classified it outside Yoruba.

kponkedenge:
Everything started from Fashola's deportation, to Oba of Lagos death threats.... Then Nnamdi Kanu retaliated and everything got worse.

But Fashola didn't deport only Igbos he also repartraited Hausa and other Yoruba's but nobody heard noise from the two other tribes only Igbos cried wolf.

Without bias even as a Yoruba Man, the recent hate between both Southern heavyweight tribes was started by the Igbos. The emergence of APC which tackled Jonathan in areas where he faulted.

Yoruba's had this thinking of creating a great nation and moving forward from our past mistakes but Igbo didn't want to have any of that, they were more concerned about comparing the past military government that made Nigeria this bad to Jonathan and we're making statements like, "his he the only one that has chop money what of the Northerners that have been choping money before" that is where the online opposition between both tribes came to be.

Igbos felt Jonathan should not be singled out for corruption alone since all other past government have been corrupt as well, but Yoruba's were thinking let's move forward with someone that has zero tolerance for corruption. Even though, the person they voted for is not too sound intellectually which is why the economy is not too buoyant.

I don't think Yoruba's hated Jonathan because in 2011 they voted ACN at other levels but voted PDP in Presidential election, I even heard some Yoruba women saying "we are not voting PDP but voting Jonathan he has no shoes and will know the plight of the people."

That statement doesn't sound like Yoruba people hate him, then came the massive news of Billions missing, sabotage in his government by his own men, his failure to take charge of the Boko Haram menace by his NSA diverting the money meant for ammunitions.

All these spelled doom for Jonathan, with the emergence of a mega party, APC Yoruba People decided let us even try some other party for once and see what they can offer.

Why Igbos were not fed up with PDP's govt is what I didn't understand, why they were not fed up with Jonathan after the immigration Saga which saw many Igbo graduates die and Jonathan refused to sack the man incharged of the process still baffles me. How about the massive corruption, was it because there were alot of Igbos in his cabinet?

I as a person would have ordinarily preferred a Jonathan to a Buhari but Jonathan was not taking charge of his government he was too weak to take firm and harsh decisions.

This is a fact that shows that Yoruba's are more interested in Good governance than Igbos. The fact that, Yoruba's are beginning to withdraw their support for Buhari because the economy has gone bad, if Yorubas hated Jonathan and loved Buhari, I don't think they would withdraw their support for him due to the fact,they also have people in key positions in this govt.

attackgat:
You are ignorant. Britain left the EU last year in a referendum, but at the moment, Britain is still a full member of the EU fir another 18 months as they discuss the terms of disengagement.

If there is a referendum in Igbo land and Igbos vote to be independent, Nigeria has no power to sieze or ask Igbos to return to Igbo land the next day.

The Nigerian constitution states that the 3 ways a person can be a Nigerian citizen

1) If they are born in Nigeria

2) If either parents is a Nigerian

3)Naturalization.


What no1 means is that since most Igbos were born in Igbo land, they will still hold Nigerian citizenship until the day Igbo land is declared independent of Nigeria and no longer a Nigerian territory.

Another thing no 1 means is that Igbos like me who were born outside Igbo land but elsewhere in Nigeria can hold Nigerian citizenship forever (unless citizenship by birth is removed from the constitution)

The combination of no1 and no2 means that most Igbos will hold Nigerian citizenship until the day Biafra is declared independent while others such as me can hold Nigerian citizenship indefinitely.

But anyone thinking that a referendum result granting Igbos independence automatically means that Igbos can be kicked out of Nigeria and their properties siezed should forget the idea since it would be unconstitutional.

You forget we don't use State of Residence but State of Origin in Nigeria. You that was born in Lagos or wherever are you were born, are you benefiting from welfare packages like Lagos indigenes do it do you have the right to be voted as Governor of Lagos, you can't even get into the Lagos state Civil service.

You think getting Biafra automatically means you get dual Citizenship as a Nigerian and a Biafran you want to enjoy Two citizenship when one party isn't happy with the separation.

attackgat:
It is people like you who dont think. It is not possible for Nigeria to just sever all ties like that, it is not possible. If Igbos get their independence, there will be a 'transition period' when Nigerian and Biafran leaders discuss the terms of disengagement and the sharing of assets and liabilities.

But there is something even more important. Since you know that Northern Nigeria is a violent prone area, why do you want Igbos to be doing ONE NIGERIA with violent prone people?

Is it not only someone who is living that enjoys properties and assets?

You tried but do you know it's a two party agreement, bilateral relationship between two nations, even the UN cannot force Nigeria to sign bilateral agreements with Biafra.

It is a completely different scenario when two nations separate from each other in not a peaceful manner.

Nigeria controls ECOWAS so don't expect ECOWAS to be on your side. Remember the blockage from Cameroon during the Civil War.

The Land use act solely rest the land on the hands of the state. The Land use act for Foreigners is different from Citizens. Why do you think Lagos state enforces all residents to pay the Land use charge if not will have you evicted from the house you built with your money.

Getting Biafra is like Denouncing the Nigerian citizenship so therefore all rights accused to Citizens is hereby withdrawn.

Even Britain leaving the EU has made EU to now introduce trade tarrifs on the UK,one that used to be free trade zone. Now they have to pay heavily to get products and goods into Britain.

Eke40seven:
I guess this below is what you meant? Surprise surprise!! Even the Aso Oke of a thing is not a Yoruba invention.... May be in Nigeria but these fashions are just the same thing, slightly modified by region.
In the image you can see that the cap is also bent, and it's from Senegal.

Modified I thought u said Sudan. Well it is a Yoruba thing in Nigeria and I guess that's where he copied his style from, besides the picture you posted of the Senegalese manwearing the bent cap, I don't think it's Aso-oke Cap.

Eke40seven:
That style of dressing is mostly a west African thing. From Senegal, Gambia, Niger, etc.. although it's popularised by the Hausas in Nigeria which I think was passed down south to the Yorubas through Islam.

The Agbada is common in many Western African tribes but not all but the Aso-oke cap that is bent that way like E-money did is exclusive to the Yoruba race. QED

richardoz:
I hope it is not like those companies in Ibadan!

Indian company,that makes processed,sliced and packaged Plantain and Yam.

A lot of Igbos have been Yorubanized. You can never see any Yoruba man or Hausa man wearing the the Igbo attire except maybe he is to be given a Chieftaincy title in the East. But we see many Igbos wearing the Agbada and the Aso-oke Cap in different parties,functions and events.

lomprico:
Why bring tribal sentiments here, we talking about dwindling " performance" in waec from sw region. Nobody mentioned SE here.

The OP didn't put it that way in his topic, he is talking about dwindling performance in SW education.

When we talk about the SW leading in terms of Education, they didn't say Yoruba's were leading in Performances they mean Yoruba's are leading in seeking Western Education which I still believe is still the case today even though the SE and SS are catching up.

Amarabae:
what kind of stupid lie is this?
Keep on living on propaganda while reality keep on exposing you.

Bring out the number of University graduates from each region that is the statistics I want to hear or the number of university graduates who have now went on to become professionals in various fields and not WAEC.

Besides Exam mal-practises is now very common with WAEC these days so why would anyone be using WAEC as an assessment.

lomprico:
Its not by number of schools but performance.

What is the essence of performing well in WAEC and not going for further education into the University and just diverting into trade just like many people do in the SE.

University Education is the most important form of Formal education and that is the criteria we should be looking at here not basic secondary education.

What is the essence of performing well in WAEC and not going for further education into the University and just diverting into trade just like many people do in the SE.

University Education is the most important form of Formal education and that is the criteria we should be looking at here not basic secondary education.

OP is not in his right senses why would you be using WAEC as a basis of SW dwindling in Education. What happened to University education, number of people going for University Education in the SW compared to other regions. It is a known fact that, the SW has more Universities both Public and Private in the entire country, this makes the percentage of SW citizen going for University Education much higher than any other region

OP is not in his right senses why would you be using WAEC as a basis of SW dwindling in Education. What happened to University education, number of people going for University Education in the SW compared to other regions. It is a known fact that, the SW has more Universities both Public and Private in the entire country, this makes the percentage of SW citizen going for University Education much higher than any other region.

Tecno66:
The dont want to come to a club where they can contribute to improve. They want a team up there. Just because Liverpool beat Arsenal 4-0, they all prefer to go to Liverpool. I blame Wenger for all this. Teams that finished ahead of his team last season are still splashing the cash to further improve while he keeps on putting faith on the same players who failed to perform last term. He makes us surfer every week. I dey vex.

Well information from Arsenal fan TV have proved that the lack of transfer business is the fault of the Arsenal owner Stan Kroenke, he is a business man and has no real interest in what the fans want or winning trophy, Wenger has proven to be able to do that as that is why he will not sack him.
Stan Kroenke is only looking for money to finance is Baseball team in the US called LA RAMs, he is looking to build a new stadium for them while using the money from Arsenal to finance it.

Oblang:
Some ppl will start flooding this thread nw claiming victims forgetting that non-indigene is applicable to other yorubas who are not from ikorodu....

I don't live in Ikorodu but am Ijebu am wondering if that would be applicable to me as well because Ikorodu is an Ijebu town.

Mustapha Sumaila does that sound Yoruba. I wonder what is wrong with some people on here.

iamrex:
mine now she doesn't even wanna go out , i can't tell her anything bugging my mind cuz she can't even talk to me on normal grounds , not to talk to interaction

Well it is someone like you that will change them, if you not cool with it just let it go but try to break it up in a way she won't feel offended.

I have dated one, I dated her for just 2 months her own is just to the extreme, she can't look at anybody's face she is not used to, you ask her questions she is unable to open her mouth to talk, she keeps her face down when we go out . I tried letting her know nobody will eat you alive for talking but all my efforts were in vain so I just let her go.

What is wrong with some of these Igbos sef what is the big deal if Ojukwu visited Buhari In daura, for crying out loud Buhari was a former head of State and Presidential candidate of ANPP. They both served in the Nigerian Military even though Ojukwu was his superior as at that time.

We saw pictures of the visit in 2003 so what is the fuss about.

FKO81:
Yorubas bloggers doing what they know how to do best setting exam and scoring yourself, who go talk say im mama food no sweet, You guys are good with propaganda

Uju Ifejirika is ahead of Alakija, Uju Ifejirika Six most powerful woman in oil and gas in the world http://www.nasdaq.com/article/top-6-most-powerful-women-in-oil-and-gas-cm502914, I guess the blogger know little about Nkechi Obi Tecno oil, Stella Okoli Emzor, Udo Maryanne Okonjo CEO Fine & Country West Africa, listing Mo Abudu, Linda Ikeji and HAJIYA BOLA SHAGAYA shows the blogger is very ignorant.

When we say make the likes of this fool am quoting to go to school, they won't listen. Uju Ifejirika is richer than. Alakija? Seriously are you okay at all because I doubt if you are.

chiiraq802:
#BROKE ASS CLUB.....

Broke ass club bawo, Arsenal is the 2nd Richest in England and 6th Richest in the World.

Arsenal and Man United sell more merchandise than any other English clubs. Both clubs have the highest fan base in the world from England.

Arsenal tickets is the highest in England, the low wages and bad transfer policy is Wenger's fault and the board are okay with it because they don't have to spend much but make much.

slodot2000:
Infact he should be in Z - list. Jay Z, Jlo and Madonna of this world had alot of hit albums so there's no way you would compare Dbanj with them.....its a no no for me

I am not comparing Dbanj to them, at least in the Nigeria Standard Dbanj is an Iconic artiste so he is A-list in Nigeria Music Industry. Just because he is no more relevant doesn't make all his previous works to be thrashed.

delors:
By their posts/comments we shall know them.
Na because na only poor man dey vex like that...like tiger wey never chop for 2 weeks. I comment jeje. On a neutral ground. You see comment you attack me without a second thought. No be poor man's way be that?

How I take attack you I didn't insult you I said were u sleep walking for u to be calling skakes B-list besides u don't know me I have never for once experienced poverty in my life, my family is not doing bad me myself I am doing well for myself I travel to the UK at least once every 3 years so I wonder why you just assume am poor.

delors:
Smh. Chop fish u no gree, u say na beef u want. How does my own (as in my own o) opinion take scatter ur life? Na me send u say make u and poverty dey share bed?
Again, pls, my brainless pal, stay in ur zone.

See this mumu you no know me and u dey talk about Poverty. Because you manage escape poverty small you feel you own the entire world.