₦airaland Forum

Dumaknesset:
It shows these biafrans don't think that things through.

They didn't think it through at all, the wise ones know these things only the miscreants and illiterate ones who follow kanu blindly are the ones just shouting up and down.

Igbos are deep rooted in Nigeria of 2017, if you don't seccessed from Nigeria peacefully and diplomatically, they will start from ground zero in the new Biafra.

That's why we told the Igbos supporting Kanu when he was insulting Yoruba saying Yorubastard, Burukutu sipping Hausa-Fulani, insulting Buhari. If you use insults and violence to seccessed you will lose everything.

I see Igbos making a U-turn soon, they have a lot to loose if they seccessed.

90% of Igbos are making their money outside of Igbo land. Loosing everything to Nigeria means you are starting from the scratch.

The only way to achieve Biafra that will not start from the Scratch is to adopt a diplomatic means with the Nigerian state, if not Biafra might be worse than South Sudan.

Remember all African countries got their independence and some money to start from the Colonial masters, how will you finance your new country, remember all monies with Biafrans is the Nigerian Naira except the few dollars which I bet won't be enough. That means Biafra will have to start by Borrowing heavily from the World Bank and IMF to start their new country.

Dumaknesset:
You see yaself again, you want to nationalize branches of Nigerian banks in Biafra, your loss go ahead. the headquarters are here in Lagos State, keep the branches while we keep the headquarters where the largest chunk of the monies are kept, but dont mix it up, banks cannot get properties for you guys, the banks are Nigerian banks not Biafran banks. The reality will be worse, just let the time come and keep living in denial.

Some banks like Fidelity, Diamond owned by Igbos by the declaration of Biafra will no more be Nigerian banks but the money in their hands will be useless they will only have the option to sell the Banks to Nigerians in dollars.

This issue is very simple, the new Biafra country needs a good bilateral relationship with Nigeria, if they are to retain their properties or the Naira currency in their hands and bank,if they don't get that bilateral relationship, a single law can make Biafrans lose all the properties and money they have ever made. So that's why they need to stop this Biafra issue and think of restructuring that way it will benefit them, Biafra will level many Igbos to ground zero.

Nnamdi Kanu wasn't thinking about this when he was insulting Nigeria.

MrEverest:
How did Igbos ask for war? Because we demanded a change of the status quo? More Hausas/fulanis & Yorubas have made more provocative statements than Igbos, thats a fact! Keep waiting for diplomacy without unequivocally demanding for it. How has the mass call for restructuring been recieved by the north? Kontinu!

You quickly forgot Kanu's insults and call to buy arms against the Yorubastard and Burukutu sipping Hausa-Fulani.

donborg:
so in yoruba land, if someone gets insulted and fights, he deserves to be banished or killed?

Are you not a human being, if you insult someone it might lead to him trying to kill you we all have our temper levels, you know Hausa-fulani are quick to anger, so go face them yourself don't expect support from the same Yoruba you insulted.

engrpheleeks:
COWARD!!! That is what you are.

Mumu seeking a peaceful dissolution is cowardice to you abi, OK Mr warrior, I hope you have your machine gun ready and Machete ready, be ready for war, the over 1 million of you that died in the first Civil War will be child's play compare to what will happen to you this time around.

It is not a matter of cowardice, it is not our fight we prefer to watch from the sidelines. This is btw Igbos and Hausa-fulani.

donborg:
so because of mere insults, we igbos deserve to die in war? i think your lying. i think the more tangible reason for your assumptions is the fact that the access to your free oil money will be cut of if a referendum is done today, not insults!

Did you read my post at all,I advised the oil rich states of the SS to form their own country, I didn't say they shd join Yorubas in a new country so I wonder where you got your assumptions from.

MrEverest:
You just emphasized the age long belief of the Yoruba being trickish, cowardly and not standing for anything. How how can any part of Nigeria be neutral in the event of a civil war? Is that even possible? Why are you guys so afraid? Its already clear that most of ND are on the same page with Igbos on this. We shall see.

Must you go to war for something that can be resolved peacefully, War should be the last resort when diplomacy has failed,do you want your women raped and children dead because of mere ego I can fight. Use your brain. The Diplomacy the Igbos ought to have used as the first call is now what they are using as the last call after insulting and beating the drums of war.

Yorubas have sense we will not seek war first and destroy all we have worked for in the last century because of one stupid pride, we will seek peaceful dissolution first in the place diplomacy fails we can then talk of war.

The fight is not our fight why must we choose sides to fight for?

Sincerely I urge these Southern minority tribes to be wary of the Igbos there is more to these their agitations, it is because of Oil they want to leave Nigeria. It is the same reason the Federal military govt in the 60's went after Ojukwu and his Biafran Army because of the discovery of Oil. The US classified about the Civil War clearly stated the minority tribes were not happy with the way they were forcefully joined into Biafra. They even hailed the Federal troops when they entire into the Midwest approaching the Niger bridge into Onitsha.

Biafra is an Igbo cause, first of all carve out the 5 igbo states and a few part of Delta and Rivers that are igbo speaking into your Biafra and let the other minorities decide if they want to join or not. Stop forcing people into the union, the same thing Nigeria did is what you are trying to do because I can assure the minorities Igbos who like to dominate things will dominate them and marginalize them in Biafra land. Best bet bring yourselves together and form your own country.

The Igbos have really insulted the other tribes on their quest for Biafra. They could have called for this referendum without insults, that way tensions wouldn't have risen like this.

You can be rested assured, if the War breaks out between Hausa/Fulani and Igbos, Yorubas will not be joining any of the parties to fight any war, we will simply use that opportunity to peacefully and diplomatically declare our separate state from Nigeria.

I will advise the Minorities in the South to come together to form their own separate country likewise the minority in the North. They should not join any of the major tribes(Igbos,Yorubas or Hausa-Fulani)

obyrich:
When they start killing 'igbos' in the north, make sure you wear 'South South' branded shirts to differentiate you from the Igbos there.

Most SS indigenes don't live in the core North( NW & NE) in large numbers, they rather go to Lagos or Abuja. It is you Igbos that are in huge numbers in the core North.

Bukola Saraki the half Yoruba half Fulani Man.

takenadoh:
My friend you don't know these things smart people reside in every part of the country but in a situation where one has been with one "smart" person for one year, it is difficult to replace that person , people form bonds only by spending 3 weeks in camp only,
I am not aware of any Oil Company that officially gives out job slots, the only role I know is guaranteed for Indegenes is that of "CLO" Community Liaison officer.
The reason I talked about the HQ is because, I know someone that dropped his CV at a company's head office In Abuja, he was called for an interview that same week, although they weren't recruiting officially.

And btw I am not "jobless" only stating facts..


my Friend here is how this thing works, it's not about putting Yorubas or Igbos and according to the last statistics released the Igbos are actually doing better than the Yorubas in terms of Education currently.


Anyway I am tired..

Based on what statistics is Igbos doing better than Yorubas. Just make yourself feel good. U don't need to quote me anymore am out.

takenadoh:
I didn't talk about Shell, Even CHevron has HQ in LAGOS,Exxon MOBIL has HQ in Lagos, the reason why is or was because of lack of infrastructure, which the Govt developed in One region and left others, mainly becos it was the capital when the oil boom was in place Lagos enjoyed, although even before independence Lagos was favoured.
So don't blame the guy in Olobiri that hasnt seen a plane before but what they use to fly the plane comes from his back yard, he doesn't even get to see a penny from the money, after suffering and going to school (University) there are no jobs becos the HR of the companies are in Lagos the HQ and they don't do recruitment or employment in Bayelsa or Delta state ,or when the Government indirectly brought a policy of NYSC not posting people to their state of Origin thereby posting this guy from Delta to Zamfara and posting the guy from OGUN state to Port Harcourt, for so called oneness of Nigeria, after NySc the guy in Zamfara comes back but the guy from Ogun has been retained in Port Harcourt, and it is a continuous circle.

You think Oil companies recruit just based on the fact that their head quarters is resident in your state of Origin. They recruit intellects they don't care if you are Yoruba or Igbo or whatever, they can't afford to recruit a dullard. Yoruba place themselves at Advantage because we believe so much in Education so they go to school, they get jobs how is that their fault.

Are you aware these Oil companies give Niger deltans job slots which they don't give any other tribe outside the delta, they still end up selling those slots, I have friends who bought job slots from the Niger deltans.

So please look inward don't aportion blames.

takenadoh:
stop telling lies Exxon Mobil's Headquarters has always been in Lagos, abeg show me one of their oil wells or field in Lagos, was it because of kidnapping? When did the so called kidnapping of whites start?
Lagos was the capital of Nigeria and a lot of these things almost automatically took shape from there.

Please don't be a "typical" Niaralander please read

So tell me did the the Govt asked them to reside in Lagos? The govt cannot force them to site their headquarters in Lagos because they came to Nigeria to help us explore our oil. So there is no way govt can force them to stay in Lagos. Warri used to house Shell due to insecurities it moved.

takenadoh:
they are there because of the way Nigeria was structured which is bad, the reason. they are in the country is because of the Niger Delta, for instance these companies have HQs in Houston not in New York or Washington, Same should be the case in Nigeria....
But we all know why things are the way they are.
So you should thank the Niger Deltans for the High FIRS and Customs Non Oil revenue.

Let's face facts apart from the oil companies,politicians .... Manufacturing and Agricultural is only a fraction of that amount.

Is it Yorubas that said Ijaws especially to take laws into their hands and be kidnapping white men for money?Multinationals headquarted in Lagos is not a function of Government structure, it's a function of insecurities in the delta. These companies were in the delta before relocating to Lagos solely because of insecurities. Nobody forced them to move to Lagos not even the Govt forced them.

Cue:
pls stop misleading people with lies! Ondo is nowhere near IMO on the Oil production table. Your Lagos tax, guess who's paying it?

Igbo tax reach wetin Dangote,Multinationals dey pay, abi you expect you come and make money from our land and we wont tax you? As if na only igbos dey do business for Lagos,abeg go sleep joor.

Cue:
pls stop misleading people with lies! Ondo is nowhere near IMO on the Oil production table. Your Lagos tax, guess who's paying it?

I don't want to insult you, go and do your research the Oil gotten from Abia and Imo is not even up to that of Ondo everyone on Nairaland knows that except you.

takenadoh:
The companies Lagos, Shell, Chevron, Nestoil, Oando are there becos of?

The majority of cars imported into this country are cars imported by Politicians and co after sharing Federal allocation gotten from the Niger Delta, so open ur eyes

Is everyone a politician, is it only politician that brings in cars.

The companies are there because that is where they prefer. Like you know, you can't force anybody where to site their headquarters.

dadavivo:
when will your federal government open ports in the SS and SE and see if anyone give a fck about Lagos.

Which port is in SE you mean a River port is that one a Port.

takenadoh:
I think it is a shame, trying to get the FG to allocate money so we can further share what the Niger Delta is producing , they will tell u the Niger Delta has a development commission, this is becos they are bloody feeding the entire country even the so called FIRS and Customs monies are greatly tied to Oil gotten from the Niger Delta, if you were to ask them to fund this so called commission by their states in the region contributing solely for the purpose or IGR then they will refuse.

FIRS makes their money from the SW particularly Lagos and Ogun with clusters of companies and Industries.

dadavivo:
what does SW bring to the table, nothing

Ilaje in Ondo has Oil and Ondo is the 5 largest producer of Oil behind Akwa-ibom, Rivers,Delta and Bayelsa. Lagos ports is also a huge revenue earner for the FG, Tax revenue is huge in Lagos and Ogun because of the clusters of Industries there.

dadavivo:
what does SW bring to the table, nothing

Ilaje in Ondo has Oil and Ondo is the 5 largest producer of Oil behind Akwa-ibom, Rivers,Delta and Bayelsa. Lagos ports is also a huge revenue earner for the FG, Tax revenue is huge in Lagos and Ogun because of the clusters of Industries there.

dadavivo:
osun has gold. How many we don't see, Lagos has oil, but dangote refinery is to get oil from Delta state

Stop deceiving yourself we are not parasites, every region has what it takes to sustain herself, SW is even more blessed than the SE in terms of resources so please shove the parasite idea up your ass.

SS and SW are major revenue earner for the FG.

I will give an honest analysis about the Igbos I don't want anybody to take it as tribalism but the truth.

Igbos need to stop shouting marginalization up and down why are they a major tribe in Nigeria. Are they not a Major stakeholder in the Nigerian project, Nnamdi Azikiwe was at the fore front with Obafemi Awolowo, Tafawa Balewa and Ahmadu Bello to get Nigeria her independence. They should wake up and take hold of the situation in Nigeria and get their fair share in the cake.

Ijaw considered to be a minority tribe are now very vocal and playing their politics right and not crying Marginalization.

Igbos should stop viewing everything like everyone is out to get them, we know the North has a born to rule mentality but we will not allow them to lord over us. We are all equal partners in Nigeria and we will take our share of the cake called Nigeria.

If any politician from Igbo extraction is arrested for corruption, ask yourselves first is he guilty or not stop justifying because some thiefs were left to escape in the past that means we must now allow all thiefs to go. We must start from somewhere if we are to get this country.

dadavivo:
said by an afonja, Anambra IMO and abia state are all Oil producing states. Enugu is filled with untapped coal and ebonyi state is filled with rice since 1912. So let them go if you still believe they're parasite. Because the only parasites we know are Afonjas and abokiis

Mumu Afonja parasites you say, Ogun and Lagos has Oil and industrialization hubs, Osun has Gold,Ondo has the second largest Bitumen reserve in the world, what of Cocoa in the Southwest, Ofada Rice in Ogun state. Even the North is not a Parasite at least they are the Agricultural hub of the nation because you lot have abandoned Agriculture for urban migration.

jfking2005:
you just nailed it.
Everything MUST favor SE, if not then it is Marginalization.
Arrest anyone from that region for corruption....It is marginalization
This mentality is gradually being pass down to the next generation....
we need to grow and reason above this mentality for us to actually move forward.

It's just like Black-white relationship,if white people arrest a Black Criminal they will say it's racism, the victim mentality among the Igbos is becoming too much anything done to them is always seen from the marginalization angle. Arrest corrupt people from all the various regions of the country their people will not raise an eye brow but Arrest a corrupt person from the SE and you see them crying witch hunt and marginalization.As if all Igbos are saints.

ColonelDrake:
If NE needs a development commission bill, why must revenue from other regions used to develop the NE.. Why must this North always use the south to clean their mess.. Do you think think if it was groundnut money, they could afford to bomb themselves and destroy infrastructures? No, but because there is oil money and money from the SW is always available to clean the monster they have created as a result of their religion extremism..So, if they need a development bill, every other region too should start destroying things as well so that we can all request a development bill. What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
You talked about SE senators like they were the only one who voted against the special status bill for Lagos. What about the northern senators? Southern senators mumu agreed to develop the NE using money made from the southern regions and now it was time the northern senators return the favor, they were found wanting...
We una dey mumu dey go na
mtcheew

If the SE senators and house of reps member knew they wanted a Development bill, why didn't they support the Lagos special status bill so that the South can unite to vote the South East development bill. They forgot it will still come back to hunt them.

Well as for the NE, it is not today money from the South is been shared to the North so I don't see anything special in the North East development bill. They actually need it, though it is money from the South and International funds. Until Resource control is actualized before that will stop.

What does the SE need a development commission for?

Na the Cross Riverian people wey IPOB wan force enter Biafra be this, Biafra never come dem don dey fight.