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Now.. that is funny . But please can we get back to the question ![]() |
@ Phemmy and Baba Oyo. Thanks a mil, your comments are priceless, it is quite refreshing to see issues being specifically addressed on nairaland again.@ Chilisauce: You have eyes for details sha. I don't consider baldness an ugly attribute, I carry mine with pride but I kinda love to see some hair on my woman's head.Thanks but please lets keep the thread focused. |
Please I need your insight on this: What would you advise your most beloved brother to watch out for in making a choice of a wife, assuming you have only one brother and his happiness and marital fulfillment is very important to you. |
Please I need your insight on this: FOR MARRIED MEN 1. What informed your decision to choose the lady you marry (your wife)out of the others available? 2. Now that you are married, from your experience in marriage, what other factors do you think young men, who are at the verge of making that BIG DECISION, should consider? Thanks for your anticipated sincerity and openness. |
biolabee: So if I may ask what about the hubby's deliberate deceitMy perspective is that if she wants to avoid divorce, she will have to deal with that, as a Christian, the deceit is no ground for divorce. She will have to deal with that, the damage has been done, you don't cure an headache by cutting the head. If she can find a place in her heart to forgive him, she should and try to move on, thank God he is not impotent. Someone ask what will happen if the biological father comes to claim the children? Yoruba proverb says " O n bi ni ko to o n wo ni' the one that procreated a child does not have a better standing than the one that raised the child, moreover, that is something that the man who married without having regard to his condition should be prepared to deal with. But for the woman, her children will always be her children. |
@ OP : Are you a Christian? Do you believe in the bible? Are there conditions attached to the vows you exchanged before men and God (Like 'I am saying I do only on the condition that there are no secrets you are hiding from me), do you believe that God hates Divorce and that if you are divorcing you are doing that only on the basis of adultery and there can be no subsequent marriage as long as your ex-husband is still alive? Are you aware that infertility is not one of the grounds for divorce neither is failure to disclose health condition?. Are you willing to take a chance should the act of divorce be found to be indeed capable of depriving you of entry into God's eternal kingdom where neither marriage and motherhood have no relevance? Look at the man you are married to and ask yourself if you would have felt completed and fulfilled with him, if there is no infertility issue? Besides the infertility, is this man a good man, your dream man? Is this man generally a liar or this is a one off thing? You have to understand that no family is perfect and everyone has their secrets hidden behind the smiles and giggles that we are seeing all over the place. My suggestion may seems a bit off, but if you do not want to divorce and you do not want children that you cannot call your own, and this man you are married to is really someone you want to spend the rest of your life with, get any of your husband's brothers, preferably a married one to make the sperm donations. Your children will be yours and they will carry what is practicably nearest to your husband's genes. Your marriage will be intact unless you choose to make it otherwise and your children will always belong to one family line. It is what the old testament would recommend. Otherwise, you can just go and remarry, have children and live happily until every time someone shows your the part of the scriptures where God says your marriage is an adultery. There is no easy solution to this problem. I pray God will guide you right. |
@ OP : Are you a Christian? Do you believe in the bible? Are there conditions attached to the vows you exchanged before men and God (Like 'I am saying I do only on the condition that there are no secrets you are hiding from me), do you believe that God hates Divorce and that if you are divorcing you are doing that only on the basis of adultery and there can be no subsequent marriage as long as your ex-husband is still alive? Are you aware that infertility is not one of the grounds for divorce neither is failure to disclose health condition?. Are you willing to take a chance should the act of divorce be found to be indeed capable of depriving you of entry into God's eternal kingdom where neither marriage and motherhood have no relevance? Look at the man you are married to and ask yourself if you would have felt completed and fulfilled with him, if there is no infertility issue? Besides the infertility, is this man a good man, your dream man? Is this man generally a liar or this is a one off thing? You have to understand that no family is perfect and everyone has their secrets hidden behind the smiles and giggles that we are seeing all over the place. My suggestion may seems a bit off, but if you do not want to divorce and you do not want children that you cannot call your own, and this man you are married to is really someone you want to spend the rest of your life with, get any of your husband's brothers, preferably a married one to make the sperm donations. Your children will be yours and they will carry what is practicably nearest to your husband's genes. Your marriage will be intact unless you choose to make it otherwise and your children will always belong to one family line. It is what the old testament would recommend. Otherwise, you can just go and remarry, have children and live happily until every time someone shows your the part of the scriptures where God says your marriage is an adultery. There is no easy solution to this problem. I pray God will guide you right. |
@ Adekay2011: Christianity is not a science, it is a way of life that is founded on the word of God. Part of the essence of marriage is so that a man and woman can enjoy sexual intimacy without such act constituting a sin. Sin is the only factor that can give evil doers power over a man. A man sleeping with his wife on their wedding night has not committed any sin that could warrant God giving him up to be harmed by evil doers. It is really kinda absurd to think abstaining from intimacy in marriage is one way of protecting oneself from the evil ones. If your postulation is correct, then the couple will have to abstain for the rest of their marriage lives since the evil doers can come any time and strike when they are making love. You are suggesting 3-4 for days, I am sure someone will come up with a 7-day abstinence policy, then one-month and may be somebody will say the first one year 'should be dedicated unto God'. If the bible is your guide, go and check what Isaac did the night Rebecca was brought to him, check what Jacob did the nights Leah and Rachael were given to him as wives, check the warning that couples should not abstain from sex for too long less they be tempted, these are biblical instances that goes to proof God's mind towards sex in marriage. Now, show me one verse in the bible where God said a married man should offer the sacrifice of abstinence on his wedding night to earn further blessings, especially after heeding the biblical injunction that the marriage bed be undefiled. |
@ OP: I understand your pains and concerns, but I want you to know that if you are determined to be a source of blessing to your family God will provide enough for you to take care of them. But really, this is a phase that is bound to pass and you will be duly rewarded for the sacrifice you are making for your family. Have you noticed that God exceedingly blesses any member of a family who naturally feels responsible for the others while the selfish ones who are only concerned about their personal comfort gets only enough to take care of themselves. If God has made you a channel of blessing for your family, rise to the occasion trusting God that He will help you carry the burden. Take care of them and watch as God will step into the situation and take care of your needs too( marriage and finance)in due course. Don't take the privilege you have for granted, getting rid of them will not necessarily make you a richer. Besides, no one really knows tommorrow the people you are taking care of right now may end up as a main pillar of support in your life in the future, so do your best now and let heaven and earth record that you gave your best. |
Interesting thread. Like someone said, don't put yourself in compromising situation and pray way ahead that any time a temptation that comes your way, God will show up and make a way out for you and give you the grace to take the 'way' and flee. I once had an experience and it was something she said that called me to my senses. We need our lives to be saturated with God's spirit and we have to constantly mortify our members here with the word of God as well as fasting and prayer. God is able to keep us. Sex is a transaction, don't trade your destiny for a few minutes of pleasure. Sometimes it feels like one is a weakling for not doing what others are doing without remorse but really if you know how devastating sex outside of holy matrimony has on one's destiny you would know it is the wisest decision ever. If you have got it,keep it, if you have slipped previously, don't give up trying to keep it. |
Same here. I don't see the basis for putting two rings on a finger, especially in Yoruba weddings where, she gets the first ring during the tradition wedding which takes place just a day or two before the white or statutory wedding and gets the other one at the church or court. |
baldman: I think we should all be a bit sceptical about this news. I have people who are members of the Obadare Family and some of them are my friends on FB, I am yet to see any post from anyone of them on this news neither is there anything to support it from other sources on the internet. Baba hasn't been active in the last few years due to old age.The news is true afterall, I just got a invite from his family to leave condolence message on his Facebook page. Erin wo, ajanaku su bi oke! May God raise in his stead spirit filled men who will achiever greater feats. |
I think we should all be a bit sceptical about this news. I have people who are members of the Obadare Family and some of them are my friends on FB, I am yet to see any post from anyone of them on this news neither is there anything to support it from other sources on the internet. Baba hasn't been active in the last few years due to old age. |
belabela: You need to study your bible and start believing it otherwise you may just be at the mercy of fraudster religious guys all the rest of your life. And many of those teaching you these things married their wives as unbelievers and have no reference for such doctrines in scriptures. May God open your eyesAt Belabela, I don't get the premises upon which you came to the above conclusion or advice and I am not really certain if same was directed at me or the OP, but in anycase, my warning is that there are indeed true children of God who are gifted in prophecy, that gift is biblical and it is well rooted even in the new testament, so when we come out to say, people should disregard 'thou sayeth the Lord' and only do things as they think fit, we may be creating a problem rather than solving it. Every child of God has a measure of the spirit of God so ordinarily should be self sufficient, but God still deemed it fit to give a measure of the gifts of the spirit to as many as would desire it( the gifts of the spirit are the only things the Bible says we should covet) for the edification of the church. SO there are real prophets and God has so appointed them for the edification of the church. That I got from my Bible. The fantastic thing about the bible is that it is the standard against which every word of prophecy is to be tested. |
Op: I can imagine what you are going through right now. You love a girl and you have already started thinking may be she is the one, so you went for prophetic guidance from a Pastor your respected so well ( may be because he has previously given you prophecies that turned our to be correct) and the result is that this girl you love so much is not your wife. Like some people have mentioned here, Nairaland is not exactly the place to get advice as most people here are not true Christians and even those who are may not share your perspective especially when it comes to accessing the gift of prophecy. My advise, first, let God see that you have not idolized this girl, maintain a open disposition,if God says let go of her, be willing to do just that, it will be hard to hear the truth if you are not prepared to accept it. Take sometime out to fast and pray for specific leading of the Holy Spirit on this matter and stay sensitive to God especially as it relates to how God communicates to you. If at the end of the prayer and fasting you still have peace in your spirit concerning the girl, you may take the final step of approaching another trusted minister of God who has the prophetic auction for confirmation. If you get a go ahead, that confirms the peace you already have but if you still don't get a go ahead, I will advise you start asking for God's grace to let go. Ultimately, if you are not meant to be with this girl, you won't. Love is not enough my broda and on a final note, I think there must be a witness deep within you soul as to whether or not that prophecy is genuine, so do not deceive yourself. And to all Nairalanders, the fact that you are told someone is not your spouse ( with confirmation from other ministers of God) and you still proceed to marry the person and you people are having a good life right now does not necessarily debunk the prophecies, don't forget, prophecies are for an appointed time. Rather than coming here to encourage other people to shun prophecies, you should be busy praying to God to show you mercy all the way so that the bad prophecies will not come to pass. You can only say a prophecy is not true if you have spent at least 40 years of marriage with both of you alive, fruitful and fulfilled, otherwise, just stay in your closet asking that God should shame any prophecy the fulfilment of which may bring bitterness into your life. The fact that there are all sort of ungodly people parading themselves as men of God, especially in Lagos, does not mean there are no true oracle of God here, God still speaks and no matter how deep you are with God, there is still the place of those specially called to the office of Prophet and they are so gifted for the edification of the church, just as the Pastors, Teachers, Workers of miracle etc |
I think the reason most men are usually careful about taking corrections from women is that women can be too much of a control freak and unless you make it clear that you won't have them telling you how to live your life, they will just keep pushing harder. The truth is, at the long run, a man's wife will change a lot about him anyway, older women have learnt subtle ways of driving home their points without causing disarray in the home. Correct wisely |
@baldman so you are saying if God says that he should marry girl1 and a pastor tells him she can't have children for him then he should make his decision based on that and not marry her. Then goes for girl2 and then they are not compatible and one day she kills him or he kills her I know dis is extreme.but we have to be careful. I know somebody that married his young love and after years of marriage and 2children she cheated and committed suicide. Why? Because they ended up together for the wrong reasons. They had dated for long e.t.c even though they where both christains. Marriage is not beans so OP be careful u don't marry for the wrong reason seek God urself u will find him. If in doubt I guess u can ask for confirmation.[/quote Lady TC: You will observe from my post that I indicated that if the OP wants to base his decision on logic ( meaning not just on what the will of God his) he can obtain the information that is not readily available in the physical through the ministration of genuine ministers of God, the advisable option is always to go God's way no matter what, but even you will agree with me that God does not impose His will on people, so he may choose not to marry the one that God chooses if for instance it is mentioned ( and he is convinced) that the one chosen may not be able to bear children. It is wiser however to seek and follow the will of God in everything, especially when it comes to the choice of life partner. Every good and perfect gift comes from God, if God is leading you to a woman and you are dead sure it is God, just trust and obey |
@baldman so you are saying if God says that he should marry girl1 and a pastor tells him she can't have children for him then he should make his decision based on that and not marry her. Then goes for girl2 and then they are not compatible and one day she kills him or he kills her I know dis is extreme.but we have to be careful. I know somebody that married his young love and after years of marriage and 2children she cheated and committed suicide. Why? Because they ended up together for the wrong reasons. They had dated for long e.t.c even though they where both christains. Marriage is not beans so OP be careful u don't marry for the wrong reason seek God urself u will find him. If in doubt I guess u can ask for confirmation.[/quote Lady TC: You will observe from my post that I indicated that if the OP wants to base his decision on logic ( meaning not just on what the will of God his) he can obtain the information that is not readily available in the physical through the ministration of genuine ministers of God, the advisable option is always to go God's way no matter what, but even you will agree with me that God does not impose His will on people, so he may choose not to marry the one that God chooses if for instance it is mentioned ( and he is convinced) that the one chosen may not be able to bear children. It is wiser however to seek and follow the will of God in everything, especially when it comes to the choice of life partner. Every good and perfect gift comes from God, if God is leading you to a woman and you are dead sure it is God, just trust and obey |
I met a man at the Barber's shop this morning, and he gave me an advice I will share with you here, he said when it comes to making a choice in marriage, one needs to investigate as much as possible ( fi imu fin le dada). You can do that practically by praying on your own if you have the holy spirit, assuming you are a Christian, but if you do not have the spirit of God and you are not used to hearing from God on other areas of your life, it may not be reasonable to expect to start hearing him loud and clear right now, moreover, emotions are involved now and that can really create a lot of confusion. If you want to follow logic on this one, well, just make sure your analysis is right, but wait, how can you really make a valid analysis when you are only able to consider factors that are in existence now, like the characters that have been displayed, how can you tell if either of them will give you children? or whether either of them will live long and well? how can you tell the one marriage to whom will bring you prosperity and fulfilment? You need to make up your mind, but you may be able to make a better decision if this hidden information is available to you. I believe there are still spirit-filled, gifted individuals who may be able to offer guidance in this regard, and you are old enough to find them yourself ( try more than one pls), if you are convinced about other revelations you hear from them ( i.e. if it they agree with some of your personal revelations from your prayers and fastings), their guidance in addition to the facts within your personal knowledge will help you make a more informed decision. DO NOT DESPISE PROPHECIES, those who have done that got their fingers so burnt that they cannot come on here to admit they were wrong, plus, you can only say a prophecy is wrong about 40- 50 years into the marriage and it was all good and perfect, not when the marriage is still young and you have no idea what tomorrow holds. I sincerely wish you God's guidance on this one... at the end of the day, it is your decision, you will live or die by it |
I want a woman who has all it takes to be proud yet humble and homely I want a naturally beautiful woman who has a Godly sense of style and a sense of purpose beyond being my wife I want a woman I can do all the weird things I do with without feeling weird |
Married brothers please keep this thread going. |
There was this day I had a great difficulty defecating ( it must have been Jedi Jedi) so I had to push really hard and it hurt so much. So when I cam out of the rest room, I exclaimed to my mum "Mummy women are trying o, if it was this hard getting a small faeces out it must be really hard delivering a baby through that tiny tunnel o". My Mum just smiled and told me women have another 'hole' where babies come out. It was the first time I heard about that other 'hole'. |
fem30: I have been praying for a long time (10yrs)for God to show me my wife but i haven't seen her although i had a dream in which i saw a lady that was said to be my wife. She contrasted most things i want in my wife so even in the dream, i complained. ( Please, dis is no joke).Femi30: I think you need to be certain about what you want God to do for you, do you want him to give you a wife according to your heart desires or a wife that accords with His plan and purpose for your life? The dream is God's way of testing whether or not you are ready to accept His will for your life. God has our best interest in heart, but He does not always share our taste in women. He is probably more interested in the heart than the appearance whereas we are prone to being attracted first to the appearance and then later to the heart. Pray that God should give you the heart to accept His will. I am at that point where I am asking for God's grace to accept His will, because it is a sheer waste of time praying that God should reveal His will when we practically don't have a heart that can comprehend and accept His will. God will help us both, at the end of the day, we shall get the best according to His perfect plan and purpose in Jesus name ( Amen) |
Babycake: @BaldmanThat is basically the reason it is hard for us to be convinced that it is God and not your flesh that ministered to you. But as you said, it is really dangerous for you to deceive yourself. There is a saying in Yoruba language and trust me some of those sayings are deeply rooted in the word of God, it goes thus " Asoro se bi ohun ti olorun o lowo si, adun se bi oun to olorun lowo si" the simple translation is, Easy as something God is involved in, difficult as something God is not involved in.Question is if God is involved in your mission to conquer this girl's heart, it will be easy for her to come around and it will be so easy for you to wait until she does. Goodluck! |
azpekuliar: It's just a case of insecurity and being overly jealous to the point of now becoming controlling, invasive and manipulative. It's no reason to bail out of the relationship. |
It might be helpful to indicate the salary range or at least indicate whether the remuneration is at per or above the average in the industry. I am assuming you want lawyers with real litigation experience, who are probably actively engaged with a firm right now. You have got to say something about the remuneration to get them to escape from their current employment to come and attend tests and interviews at your office in far away Lekki. |
@ Poster, I must warn you my response may sound a bit harsh but trust mean, it is just the truth as I know it, no offence is meant. she is right to have refused to give you out of her Uncle's money and you are wrong to have asked in the first instance. She trusted you, that is why she told you about the money at all, and you showing undue interest in the money is a kind of betrayal. It does not portray you as a good man, more like an opportunist, a 'user'and a gold-digger kinda. If she is someone I know, I will warn her to be careful around you.You have raised an issue she needs to consider and that is if you are worth building a future with.If this 'trying to use people'is a one off thing with you, just make sure it does not happen again. If you close your mind against getting assistance from women, particularly the one you should be assisting, God will open other honourable channels from you. |
@ OP. You mentioned that she is your dream girl and at the same time the [b]will of God [/b]for you, my question is, when did she become your dream girl, before the revelation by God or afterwards? You need to sincerely ascertain if this is your desire, permitted by the spirit of God. If that is the case, you may have a lot of convincing and toasting to do to get her attention, you sent your self with the permission of God. However, if your interest in her is spurred by the revelation of the holy spirit, she is not likely to be able to resist you for long and if she does, you can just go right back to God to seek further direction. There is a way God's message convinces even the hardest heart. The Bible says He sent His words and it healed them.When Jesus sent his disciples to get the cot, he had prepared the circumstances to enable them fulfil their mission, when they said God had a use for the cot, the owners let go of the reins.Another factor you need to consider is timing, the fact that God has shown you a woman who would make a good wife based on his knowledge of His divine purpose for your life does not mean it is time for you to approach her or 'deliver God's message' ( that is the wrong thing to do, by the way) you need to be sure God is leading you to go at that particular time, going at a time God has not fully prepared her mind to receive you can cause too much confusion. Review your situation sincerely and go back to God for further directions, God's words do not miss, so if there is a little inconsistency, it came from you. God bless you 'anointed one' do not make the mistakes the older ones made. |
Preshuzpearl. Thanks for sharing this with us. Trust me a lot of people are in your shoes right now and some of the insights shared here will be most helpful to them and those that are likely to find themselves in a similar situation in the future. First I need to warn you about your apparent concern about the guy not being romantic and your insistence that physical attraction is important at this point. As some good men here have told you it has been observed that women can develop sexual attraction for those they truly love and if indeed God is the one authoring your relationship with this brother, you can be rest assured He has designed him to fulfil every of your needs, even those ones which have not yet found expression. Just as you have been designed to fulfil the needs of your God ordained husband. Assuming he is truly your God-sent, you will spend the rest of your life falling in love with the man, it will start from the moment you yield to God in obedience. What you should be concerned with is ascertaining whether indeed He is God's appointed for you. As many people have suggested, first you need to tell God that you are ready to yield to His will in marriage, even if it means getting married to the unromantic brother. Ask him to lead you definitely on the matter, remind Him of how much you depend on Him and how you trust Him to give you the one that is truly capable of helping you fulfil His purpose for your life, just worship God as one who is sold out for Him and let His peace guide you. If he is truly the one and you are willing to obey God on this, the situation will work itself out, you know what the bible says about God making things beautiful in its time. If after an heart felt communication with God you still feel your spirit resisting him and it has nothing to the with your thirst for romance or a particular model of men, then it will be al right for you to tell him with all certainty that God is not leading you to him. At that point, be sure that you have more peace letting him go, than you may possibly have if you say 'lets start and see how it goes, I am not making promises yet'. Let me leave you with what a Female Pastor in my church who got married to her husband who was way behind him socially, the brother having been a born again for most part of his life, said " It is amazing how God can help even a Christian brother to make one feel like a woman" If what you want is romance trust me God can help the brother to fill your life with romance in amazing ways. Trust and obey, there is no other way to be happy in Jesus but to trust and obey. |
Ayee Idris: To answer your question, my husband waited for me for a year and a half and we only did it after our wedding. Not because we are religious. We are not. But because I was not ready and he knew I am "unpersuad-able". Married over a year now, first baby almost here. Life is good. Doesn't mean life won't be good for those who are ready and up to it. But its not "everybody" that does it before marriage. So if u are ready, fine. If u are not, fine. But please, don't do it cos u think everyone is doing o. Abeg.Thanks for addressing the issue ma'am. |
Ayee Idris: To answer your question, my husband waited for me for a year and a half and we only did it after our wedding. Not because we are religious. We are not. But because I was not ready and he knew I am "unpersuad-able". Married over a year now, first baby almost here. Life is good. Doesn't mean life won't be good for those who are ready and up to it. But its not "everybody" that does it before marriage. So if u are ready, fine. If u are not, fine. But please, don't do it cos u think everyone is doing o. Abeg.Thanks for addressing the question |
I think the contributors to this thread are not answering the OP's question, She wants people to share real experience about whether they had sexual relationship with their would-be spouse before marriage or not and for those who didn't, she wants them to explain how else one can show love without engaging in sex. Did you or did you not have sex with your would be spouse before marriage? |
. But please can we get back to the question 
