₦airaland Forum

zikter:
how do you know over 100 million people, what they do or will do one by one?

It's in the blood. If it were not so, Nigeria would be different.

zikter:
no, like I said before, conjecturing clarifies nothing for me. prove does, once you are able to prove to me that all Nigerians in Nigeria are corrupt, clarity will come. get the prove and come back

He was right. Nigerians will deny and bury their heads in the sand just avoid the truth.

Babzilla:
The problem is you take them a little too seriously. They will deny and continue to bury their heads in sand or point fingers. Is there one mofo who doesnt give /recieve bribe, give or take kickbacks? or has his hands in some sort of fraudulent shìt in this cesspit?

Cletus77:
research before u talk...dont let jealousy or hatred control u..... The udoms are wealthy families, even before venturing into politics.

I didn't know that. Which is why I asked. Unlike most mentally dulled Nigerians who accept everything.

zikter:
the issue is I don't like agreeing with things that I cannot prove, because they are mere speculations and no substance. if you have asserted that some Nigerians are corrupt, I would have agreed with you because that has a prove. but agreeing with you on your view point is totally alien to me as a rational thinker. but what do I know, a popular saying has it that, every one is entitled to their opinions. however, when push comes to shove, prove of opinions takes the centre stage. in that case an opinion that can't be proven is worthless. and for your information, there is nothing like fact in all you have said. just saying all Nigerians living in Nigeria are corrupt is no fact, it a mere statement of conjecture. it only when you prove the statement that it becomes a fact.

I hope this clarifies things for you.

Babzilla:
The problem is you take them a little too seriously. They will deny and continue to bury their heads in sand or point fingers. Is there one mofo who doesnt give /recieve bribe, give or take kickbacks? or has his hands in some sort of fraudulent shìt in this cesspit?

Babzilla:
The problem is you take them a little too seriously. They will deny and continue to bury their heads in sand or point fingers. Is there one mofo who doesnt give /recieve bribe, give or take kickbacks? or has his hands in some sort of fraudulent shìt in this cesspit?

Can I use this quote?

Babzilla:
The problem is you take them a little too seriously. They will deny and continue to bury their heads in sand or point fingers. Is there one mofo who doesnt give /recieve bribe, give or take kickbacks? or has his hands in some sort of fraudulent shìt in this cesspit?

I told you I am passionate about certain things.

zikter:
the issue is I don't like agreeing with things that I cannot prove, because they are mere speculations and no substance. if you have asserted that some Nigerians are corrupt, I would have agreed with you because that has a prove. but agreeing with you on your view point is totally alien to me as a rational thinker. but what do I know, a popular saying has it that, every one is entitled to their opinions. however, when push comes to shove, prove of opinions takes the centre stage. in that case an opinion that can't be proven is worthless. and for your information, there is nothing like fact in all you have said. just saying all Nigerians living in Nigeria are corrupt is no fact, it a mere statement of conjecture. it only when you prove the statement that it becomes a fact.

I thought I was going crazy so I had to confirm from a reliable source. Babzilla, can I quote you?

AlPeter:
oga they are special. Wanna know why? Because they are already dead. They died protecting you and your family the day they joined the military. You don't expect a man in full military regalia to queue up for more than 20 minute in hostile environments, do you?

Bros that mentality is wrong. I am a soldier. Almost 15years. And I queue to get money from any ATM. If it was that hostile, civilians would not be there in the first place.

Babzilla:
Aint nothing changed bro. The only car owners who dont give bribe are those who dont drive thecars.
Dont you see those posts where it isr eported that a policeman (or soldier) shot some driver... the commenrs are usually
"Ohh he shoulda given the police... its just 20#"

I had to ask. These guys are arguing with me like I am crazy. I started to doubt myself which is why I asked you. And I don't mean ever single person in Nigeria obviously. But they need to be shocked into reality.

Opharhe:
I think I support this.

The question you should be asking is why do the soldiers not want to queue like everyone else? They are not special.

Babzilla, help me out. Can anyone own or drive a car in Nigeria without giving policemen bribe? It's been 20 years

zikter:
this is exactly what I am saying. you are still conjecturing without any prove. prove to me that I have given bribe to police while owning a car. all these talk of is in the blood blabla is no prove whatsoever. if you come to Nigeria now and tell me am corrupt and I sur you, how will you prove am corrupt is my point. because you cannot tell the court that its obvious and is in my blood. how do you detect corruption in the blood given a blood sample?

That is still your problem. Refusing to accept the obvious. How can any Nigerian living in Nigeria boldly come out and say as a car owner they don't give policemen bribe. Keep lying to yourself. Refusing to accept a problem is same as perpetuating the said problem. How do you all change things when you don't want to accept facts.

tsamson:
smh... I cant still read a point in this..


cc:deepsight

by the way, are the mods asleep.. Its been quite while since my last ban

A corrupt mind would not understand it. For you to understand, you need to go outside right now and look around you. If you think you are OK with what you see, then kudos to you.

tsamson:
bro no offense but you have already used Different

You are right. Appreciate the correctio.s

tsamson:
bro.. Kindly replace the above with are /have been and and

The first one was a typo. The price of auto correct. The second one, you need to brush up on your English.

zikter:
no, you are the one not getting it. don't generalize people in such a manner you are doing. how do you prove that I feel giving a bribe to a policeman is normal cos I live in Nigeria? you will agree with me that you cannot prove it aside mere conjectures here.

I hope you don't actually believe there is one clean person living in Nigeria? If that were the case, you would not have had decades of every single public official looting you blind. Mathematically it is almost impossible. Not in Nigeria though. And it is not about you feeling you have to bribe a policeman. Living in Nigeria, you have to. It is in the blood. Why are you arguing against the obvious?

zikter:
not everyone has a car. the issue is you are making a general statement covering over 100 million people and that is why your comment is antagonised. fact is there are corrupt people even where you claim you are leaving. as you are not giving bribe does not imply others are not, and since you are not the secretary keeping the register of corrupt people, you may not know. next time you want to make that kind of statement, make use of words like "some" "many" "most" etc but never "all".

You still don't get it. If you follow the logic, even if you don't have a car now, you will eventually buy one. Aren't you going to give policemen bribes when you do? To you, this is normal everyday life in Nigeria but it is definitely not normal. Your children are looking at you. What do you think will happen when they grow up? Why do you think every elected politician is fleecing you dry hence the topic? You guys need to start telling yourselves the truth. You all like to avoid it.

Kizyte:
This is what is expected of every wealthy man and woman.

If I had so much money, I would do even more.

It's good to be philanthropic!

Next question is; I hope she used her private funds and not the state budget.

zikter:
expatiate.

As a car owner in Nigeria, you would have been stopped at one point in time by a policeman. Can you honestly say in the presence of God you don't give bribes? Be honest to yourself. To you that is not significant but it is a problem. It solidifies the way Nigerians think.

Proffdada:
sit down and relax, don't make your case worse

Continue reading. You will understand why you are corrupt.

DeepSight:
I can only indulge the conversation if you correct that which is wrong with the bold words.
If you canot, or do not, enjoy your hypocritical bigotry and leave "us" alone.

That is the problem. You all don't like to tell yourselves the truth nor face facts. You keep consoling yourselves. I have given you a fact of life in Nigeria, which if you are honest to yourself, you know to be true. But amnesia and delusion reigns in that country. So, no big surprise to me.

Proffdada:
then why the general assertion? You don chop? You don baff? Who you epp?

I said every Nigerian living IN Nigeria. Every Nigerian in Nigeria is corrupt.

DeepSight:
Sorry, I cannot dignify the question.

It's just further evidence of your very s.illy bigoted mind.
Your presumption.

And your own inferiority complex.
That's it.

Let me enlighten you then. If you had said you did, i would have pointed out that as a car owner in Nigeria, you would have been stopped at one point in time by a policeman. Can you honestly say in the presence of God you don't give bribes? Be honest to yourself. To you that is not significant but it is a problem. It solidifies the phucked up way you all think. To you it is normal.

DeepSight:
Jesus wept!

Guy. I am waiting for your answer. Do you have a car?

DeepSight:
Jesus wept!

Why are you dancing around. Answer the question.

DeepSight:
Need I say more?

Such a poor man!

It's true na. Come and give bribe here and see what will happen to you. Do you have a car?

DeepSight:
I hit the enter button before finishing. See my adjusted post above.

You are a disgrace.

Answer me now. Do you have a car? I want to prove to you that you are corrupt.

DeepSight:
It is.

I positively assert that you never went to any school.

I am also certain that you dictate these words perhaps in pidgin and someone else helps you translate and type.



If you are enlightened, I would chose to be endarkened.



. . . People who have so corrupted, they will cut off their nose to spite their face. They are the epitome of people who have been so used to doing the same thing the same way for a long time, but expect a different but miraculous result. That is the real s.tupidity. And you might wanna brush up on your comprehension of what a "bigot" is.

Guy. Try help yourself. You and million of Nigerians have been carrying this mindset for decades, where has it gotten you. I asked you if you had a car? I want to prove to you that you are corrupt.

Proffdada:
maybe you and your family sha

My familly is not. Where we live we know the repercussion of being corrupt. In Nigeria, there are none. I ask you, do you have a car? If you do, you are corrupt.

DeepSight:
This is a stuupid, illiterate and bigoted post.

It is also a post made by one with a si.lly inferiority complex.

Nothing else to say. Go figure yourself.

Do you have a car. If you do, you are corrupt. Ask me why.

DeepSight:
This is a stuupid, illiterate and bigoted post.

It is also a post made by one with a si.lly inferiority complex.

Nothing else to say. Go figure yourself.

It is not the opinion of an illiterate. It is an opinion of an enlightened individual trying to educate people who think like children. People who have so corrupted, they will cut off their nose to spite their face. They are the epitome of people who have been so used to doing the same thing the same way for a long time, but expect a different but miraculous result. That is the real s.tupidity. And you might wanna brush up on your comprehension of what a "bigot" is.