₦airaland Forum

shutdownbrown24, wey the twerking na? So Nigerian traditional dance na twerking? Ok. Smh.

ican2020:
You have my vote already

Anyone remember the 5k promise? You guys don't learn anything. When will you all start asking questions?

ATERI:
Yea, jungle justice can only happen in Nigeria where thugs kill for fun and invite the Inspector General of Police and court judges to join them in celebration!

Please show me where in Germany or france or the U.S, where people confidently walk around taking pictures of themselves killing another human being. https://www.360nobs.com/tag/jungle-justice/

spikesC:
How many times are you going to educate these people. Go and sleep nah, haba

I have to try na. Can you imagine a situation where there are millions and millions of people like ateri walking around and thinking the way he does in Nigeria. How do you expect the country to get better. Someone has to tell them the hard truth. To them, what they are used to is normal, which is why he holds the opinion that Nigeria is no different from any other civilized country. Can you imagine that?

ATERI:
I know we are all frustrated about the state of our nation, but I refuse to accept that Nigerians are more unruly, disorderly and criminal than others. I read through this thread to be sure of what you are saying. And, trust me, I`m talking of here and now

You seem to believe that mob justice only happens when Nigerians kill an accused in Makoko, but corps in America shot blacks to death anyhow without any justice for the bereaved. If you shot dead my teenage son on his way to super-market and the police that shot him goes scot-free, am I going to feel better than that teenage son lynched in Nigeria for stealing mobile phone in Lagos? Or a case of 5 white youths running after a black or Pole in London, butchering him to death ( Stephen Lawrence in 1993, Arkadiusz Jozwik in 2016 ). In what way is this worse than the situation in Nigeria, in view of the fact that racism in Metropolitan Police often stands in the way of speedy prosecution and resolution? Then there is the question of how to punish a murderer. EU says don`t kill the killer, would this be acceptable as a good form of justice in America, for instance?

Neo-Nazi set fire to the house of a Turkish family in Germany in 1993, killing 5 members of the same family. Justice for them was sending the killers to maximum of 15 years in jail, meaning they are likely to get out in less than ten years. I can`t remember the details of the case in 1996 in the same Germany when 10 people were killed and no single person was prosecuted. Today, from Sweden to Germany, Greece to Slovenia far-right groups are setting fire to refugee centres and getting away with it. Refugees are no criminal, yet they are killed recklessly all over Europe as we speak.


There is absolutely nothing in Nigeria that makes us more abnormal. Societies are imperfect, it is just the degree of imperfection that varies. I repeat: mob justice is mob justice- it simply means you are getting away with murder. No difference to me whether it`s done by Washington police officer or a Berlin neo-Nazi. Most crimes are punished in Nigeria through the judicial system, that is the most important commonality with the rest of the world.

I think you are confused as to the definition of jungle justice or mob justice. Jungle justice is a situation where people summarily mett out executions of perceived suspects and there is no consequence to the people who engage in it. This is why Nigerians have the nerve to take pictures of themselves doing it. What you are talking about are crimes committed in a nation. Every Country in the world has crime but not every country does jungle justice. When have you ever heard that anyone in Nigeria was arrested for doing it? That is the difference bro. And you might wanna change that mentality of yours. You have been so immersed in the rot for so long you don't realize the extent to which Nigeria is phucked up. It is absolutely reeking with filth.

ATERI:
Europeans have been setting fire to refugee shelters and killing them for ages. Mark you, there is no death penalty in EU. To say that mob justice is a Nigerian thing is not true.

Guy, are we talking about the 18th century or the modern era? Up to the late 50's there were lynchings in the south in the U.S. No one is arguing that it did not happen. What we are talking about is, in this day and age, what with all the knowledge online and in social communities, Nigerians still believe it is ok to murder people in groups with no repercussions. At least i believe you went to school to learn and not make mistakes made by other races. What will it take and how long do we give Nigerians to learn. Half a century? Oh wait. It's already half a century. Maybe in another 50 years. My fingers are crossed.

gudbadgyal:
Hello Nairalanders, I wouldn't wanna bore you, So I'll just go straight to the point. I've been dating this guy for sometime now (just date oo) but his mom knows about our relationship and his sisters too. He's such a mama's boy and doesn't wanna work. He says he doesn't like Nigeria and he's waiting for his visa to get ready. He's dad is actually a white. He's idle and depends on me to foot the bills saying he'll reward me when things go well for him. He isn't willing to work and this is really pissing me off. However some one is gradually stealing my heart because he has been doing things my bf doesn't do for me, I'm so confused right now... Dunno who to go for
Need your advice please

Stay with the guy you yourself has admitted "isn't willing to work". And since he's "idle", he is going to be a millionaire one day. To many Nairalanders have below par IQ.

The same hypocritical mofos condemning her will be the same people who are probably drinking beer as they are commenting.

Keneking:
Those wheelbarrow, hawkers and emblem taxes sef

Anyway, he has done something...

Where is lalasticlala now? This story need stimulus package for front page

Meen. Don't get me started about those emblem tax. Rivers state is the worst or them all.

logicab:
This guy, drop it already. Go to the hood in the US. The grime. You think African Americans will call the police? Even go to trailer parks where you find the so called "white trash". Do you think they will call the police? They exact their own form of punishment which includes murder; and they don't care whether they go to jail or not. And indeed some do get away with it as nobody talks to the police. Now, this is the first time I am speak of non-Nigerians. So, once again, Nigerians will behave like Nigerians where ever they are found in groups and one of such behaviors is jungle justice.

Now you are just arguing for the sake of it. No one has said that crimes don't happen in other countries. What we are saying is, how is it possible that a group of people will publicly execute suspects on almost a daily basis with zero repercussions. Things like that don't happen in normal societies. You are just whipping up conjectures just to further an irrational argument and it has zero basis. This is the problem. Because you are used to absolute rubbish, you honestly believe it prevalent in all societies. It is not. I almost feel sorry for you. Can you imagine millions of Nigerians having your kind of thought process? That country is doomed. And just so you know; 911 is on speed dial of every one here. We call the cops. We don't form a mob.

logicab:
Once again Ogbeni, you are the one with comprehension problems. You said this:


Now whether or not you live in Germany, I can take your hypothetical scenario to mean you are familiar with Germany (or why would you even try to make a point with a country you are not familiar with)? There is also something called satire. If you didn't get the latter part of my post, it is a waste of time explaining to you.

Secondly, I don't need Google to know how Nigerians behave in groups where ever they are. The question though is, do you even know where I live or have lived?

So, saying categorically that i live in Germany is satirical. Ok. I get you. And yes, based on the degraded society you are used to and live in, Nigerians behave in murderous groups as evidenced on a daily basis. I assure you first hand, in other normal societies, they don't. You know why? unlike Nigeria where you can get away with murder, you will spend decades behind bars in a structured society.

logicab:
LMAO. Man, this is also typical of a Nigerian - comprehension issues. There is nothing disjointed in my comments if you can read. YES, Nigerians will engage in jungle justice/mob action where ever they are as a group. Even in that "your" Germany, Nigerians will most likely group together to "punish" an accused thief even without evidence of a committed crime or proof the accused was the perpetrator rather than inform the police.

I am not used to what? OK, I get it; you live in Germany. So automatically you assume you have superior knowledge of "abroad" abi na "overseas". Calm down mister.

See why i say you have comprehension problems? Quote anywhere where i said i live in Germany. And you saying Nigerians will most likely commit jungle justice in Germany is laughable to say the least. I am sure you would be googling like crazy now to find instances where that probably could have happened. I can just picture how your mind works. You are so used to rubbish that you actually believe other societies allow the horrible things you allow in Nigeria. I will be waiting for the quote where i said i live in Germany.

logicab:
Mr Man, read every single one of my previous comments again. I refer to Nigerians and Nigerians ONLY. Once again, no matter where Nigerians go, they will always behave like Nigerians. And jungle justice is one of such behaviors. And once again, mob action is not ONLY when an ALLEGED thief is beaten and burnt to death. There are other ways in which mobs operate; but it is still a mob action. It involves meting out "justice" even without real confirmation of a perceived "wrongdoing". I hope you finally got it.

No i don't get it because your argument is disjointed. Are you saying a group of Nigerians in Germany will engage in Jungle justice? Please explain how that is possible since it has never been heard of. Let me explain how it works since you are not used to it. A crime is committed against you and the next thing you do is call the police. They will handle it. Because of the society you have created for yourselves, the best option you have is murder. I hope you finally get it now.

logicab:
Ogbeni, your case is that of the pot and kettle. I hope you know what a mob action is about. By the way, the victims of mob actions are not always guilty. I'm not even sure what you are on about with the "breaking the law" part.

Any toddler will tell you that jungle justice is "mob rule in which people take the law into their own hands and punish alleged offenders for perceived heinous crimes. Jungle justice is also referred to as mob or street justice and can lead to extra-judicial killing". That is not my definition. It is googles. It is also common knowledge. You can't term it that way if only one person is involved. It would just plain murder/breaking the law. It only happens in Nigeria. I have lived in various cities in the baltic nations, Europe and America, and not once have i seen anything like that except in countries like Nigeria. The scary part is you all welcome it as normal and business as usual. That in itself is mind boggling.

logicab:
I should be questioning your comprehension. Once again, jungle justice is NOT ONLY when a mob gathers to beat and burn a SUSPECTED thief to death. AND once again, a Nigerian will be a Nigerian whether in Nigeria or abroad. So yes, Nigerians abroad will still engage in jungle justice.

Again comprehension. What is the difference between what you are saying and someone ordinarily just breaking the law?

logicab:
Jungle justice is not only by a mob beating and setting a thief on fire. Ponder on that.

Did you read and comprehend what i wrote initially? What you are basically saying is crime happens in other countries. Yes they do. Every single country in the world. But i have never seen in a normal society where a group of people murder a suspect in public and onlookers gather and chant encouragement and support, with the police sometimes present. If you have, please give me one example of the scenario i have just portrayed. It only happens in phucked up countries like Nigeria.

Greataausim:
Really.... I felt so bad for our youths in this country nigeria, i think that's the end of the road for him.
Say no to robbery, cultism, kidnapping
God save us frm the hands of our enemies.

Almost every Nigerian is a potential murderer.

Sanchez01:
Absolute rubbish. This is for those who have static jobs, like taking stocks and all. The business close at 5:00pm, yet I sometimes leave the office at 7:00pm or more than that. Reason for this is because some issues are forwarded and or escalated, and one cannot just pack up and leave until it's resolved. There is a need a to address the issue immediately. That does not imply laziness.

I think the Op's post is for lower level management. Every good manager knows that you are supposed to be the first in and the last to leave the office. To say "never work late" is very misleading. The higher your position in an organization, the larger your responsibilities, and the longer your work hours are.

Sugarcious:
Where is the stage?? Isn't that back stage? OP get primary 6

See who talking about primary six. The OP said "before", so it could have been back stage, under the stage, above the stage, etc.

ireneony:
Mtchewe not everyone understand Yoruba

Op what's your point?

The point is the parents are pissed which is why they are trying to insinuate that he should be ready to take care of the kid since he can father one. Obviously that's not going to happen, especially if they live in Nigeria. A 21 year old in Nigeria, might as well be 12 years old.

logicab:
So you think Nigerians abroad don't or won't engage in jungle justice? As someone said; you can't take the Nigerian out of a Nigerian.

Where?

cococandy:
What can I say?

When someone believes a child is a witch and deserves to be starved to death (plus other chill-inducing stories like that), do I have a moral right to tell another right-thinking individual not to feel superior to them?

These things are the natural consequences of a long history of animalistic behavior that our people have refused to let go of.

I'll be watching from the sidelines.

You just have to wonder. Smh.

cococandy:
I never said the superiority complex is unwarranted.

You and mouth.

cococandy:
All these exchange usually comes from a mix of the superiority attitude on the part of some Nigerians abroad and a feeling of inexplicable (to me) animosity from some Nigerians in Nigeria towards those abroad almost bordering on envy. Seen it too many times.
Can't y'all just get along?

Always playing the devils advocate when you and i know that the average Nigerian does not think with all his/her faculties. All your years in. . . . .where have you ever seen a suspect summarily executed in the streets with the citizens chanting in support? That alone should tell you the kind of people who live in Nigeria are. How do you expect me not to think that i am better than someone who thinks like an animal? How do you expect me not to think that i am better that someone who thinks that giving policemen bribes on a daily basis is normal? The truth is majority of Nigerians in Nigeria generally don't think like regular people. They bury their heads in the sand to avoid the truth and deliberately lie to themselves hence the society they have created for themselves. They think it's bad now, they have no clue it's about to get worse for them.

Babzilla:
What do you expect a senile old man to say? Before the elections this man was tagged as an idìot who was only good at taking orders..

You know the ugly truth? You know how when you believe someone is mentally handicapped, you can say anything and they will believe? This is why i think the leaders in Nigerians say the most absurd things. They honestly believe the vast majority of Nigerian are dense.

martineinstein:
what could be the cause of her kidney failure..she isnt bleach...i dont know if she drinks alcohol..she must have taken the wrong drugs...

R.i.p ,sis

Nigerians don't care about their health. A normal person must go for medical check up every year. High blood pressure is the number one cause of heart attack and kidney failure. It creeps up on you and you only find out when it is too late. This is why they call it "the silent killer".

R.I.P to the deceased.

If any Nigerian truly believes that, then he/she deserves to be flogged. What about countries like Germany and japan that don't have oil? How do they do it?

kenonze:
She won't even understand the difference between this phone and her previous phone so long as she can access her Instagram, Fzbk and whatsapp.

Take good pictures finish, case close

There is really not much difference between the iphone 6 and 7.

Springz:
All I see is 500k

Where?

To say Nigerians mumu is an understatement. These politicians wouldn't do this if not for the approval of it's citizens. No government in the world is more powerful than it's people. Except maybe in Nigeria.

erinalex:
now tell me, the way forward. My point is that nigeria citizens can only do but little,the pple in government will do the bulk of 'Normal things',for you to see effect. The buck stops at mr president's desk,this is what is obtainable here in nigeria. Am not saying you should not do those normal things that u know,but its effects can not be felt by d generality of nigeria pple. If you can't understand me,I can't help it. If I may ask,what are those normal things,that you think will turn nigeria to a developed nation? And tell me who will implement them. One of d normal thing should be- FRSC arresting a police van wwithout rear light,bad tyres,broken trafficator light,driving against d traffic etc;. Have you ever seen any road safety officials doing that? How do u arrest such situation with ur "normal gospel"?

The biggest problem in Nigeria is the mentality. The way Nigerians think in general is un natural and defies logic. Second problem is everyone feels they can do whatever they want without consequence. Which is why they feel comfortable dumping refuse anywhere. Thirdly, the government is useless because they don't understand their responsibilities. To effect any kind of change in Nigeria, people must start to understand that they cannot get away with even the smallest infraction. The government needs to provide and enforce. If they provide sanitary equipment tomorrow and don't enforce it's use, Nigerians will misuse it. Overall, the Nigerian predicament will not be solved overnight. It will take decades for that to happen. It is difficult to change a messed up mentality that took over half a century to create.

erinalex:
u better believe that I said those things. Its the leaders that leads;am old enough to know that positives things can only be effected by our leaders in nigeria. Try anything they don't support,u will be frustrated out of d system. Gani Fawehinmi went to detentions on uncountable time with other good nigerians,in other to better our lots; can you tell me what has changed,NOTHING. We have no system that works,no functional institutions;citizens are not ready for revolution,successive governments have impoverish us; yet u'r here saying things must be done normally. You will till Jesus comes back. Unless u've God sent leader. Try anything funny,we send u to gallow,mind u,NO human right here. If u doubt me,ask Kanu.

I don't know what all this epistle has to do you saying that abnormal situations require abnormal solutions. How do you solve an abnormality using abnormal means? Common sense should tell any sane human being that normalcy is required to solve an abnormal situation. Engaging in abnormalcy in trying to solve a problem only perpetuates the problem.