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I live in the Lekki axis as well and power supply is back to how it was before the raining season, about 8-10hrs a day if we are lucky and only at night. Thank God for inverters!!! So no major improvement per se...

Unfortunately you ignore this;from the conversation;

“Question: What is an NGO and how does it relate to the UN?
Answer: [size=18pt]NGOs have no status and are not part of the UN.”[/size]

Now, Watchtower says in its defence that it joined to access a library. People say, no, you don’t need to affiliate as an NGO to assess a library. The UN agrees. (That is not a good defence for Watchtower, anyway. If affiliation was actually needed to use a library, or to use it beyond a certain point as you spin it, certainly Watchtower could have put up with such minor inconvenience and avoid affiliation with the seven-headed beast to maintain “Christian neutrality”.) On why it withdrew, Watchtower says it withdrew because the conditions for affiliation changed. UN says no, they didn’t. People say they withdrew because the affiliation was exposed, since the facts say they withdrew a day after the exposure by a London newspaper. These are the facts. You have ignored the fact of the date the exposé was made and withdrawal date which is the major plank the argument about reason for withdrawal rests on, but you quickly accuse me of ignoring an irrelevant point – that NGOs are not part of the UN.

You have ignored the fact of the date the exposé was made and withdrawal date which is the major plank the argument about reason for withdrawal rests on

I have not read the posts above properly but I have skimmed portions of them. This is typical JW hypocrisy in full blast and[b] it would have been better if Barristers had shut up than post this. [/b]

I see you don’t have the common sense or maturity [/b]to leave the other thread to continue with its relative sanity but would import it here. You have never shown any maturity,

[b]Prove that it is not blind rage that drives you to join the league of those inanely having premature ejacu.lation [/b]over my beliefs by providing a link to the thread where you asked me direct questions about them and I was shy about myself.

[b] To insinuate that having JW or religion makes a man moral and being without it makes another immoral contains zero rationality. It is idiocy, apologies to Enigma.

In attempting to pontificate on morality, you sound like a cripple attempting football of the American variant.

barrister, do you want to convince the devil's advocate?

You are strange, Barristers. I set out a conversation without inserting words to even “explain” yet you accuse of me of “imposing” my “reasoning”, “programming” and doing what I accuse you of which is comprehensive dishonesty? The only thing I did was to highlight the entire sentence, including the part I accused you of covering with your finger – is that what you call programming, highlighting a sentence?

Like I said earlier, you make allegations without bothering to build a premise for them. First, you copied and pasted the post where you alleged I said I would de-covert you. Then you provided a link to it. Now you want to open a thread and take it away from context – doesn’t matter really. You don’t know the meaning of “speculate all you like about imaginary motive I have” but you believe the objective reader is with you. Ok, you want to satisfy yourself - go ahead and open this unnecessary thread to convince yourself of your obtuseness! Reminds me of the tortoise proverb again. You don’t need my agreement to open anything. I will be reading the thread. Since it is such a senseless idea and the thread will be such a useless one, I will only comment if someone lies against me or misrepresents me as you and your comrade are wont.

Looking at the statement again and taking your highlight into consideration, maybe you did actually make an honest mistake in reading my statement. You are a very dishonest person but I will give you the benefit of the doubt on it and I think I am right. You know, there was a time in the other thread when I thought you were better than Mr truthislight, such that on an occasion when he misunderstood me, I told him I was sure you would understand what I wrote. Now I realise I was wrong. You’re just as dense as him. I wrote a sentence describing any motive I have to de-convert you as being imaginary and speculative and you understand it to mean that I want to de-covert you. Was there anything in the thread that led to that reading?

This will not be the first time I am saying that you read and accuse me of things in a hurry. A more patient, more sensible or more intelligent human being would have noted there is no comma between “motive” and “I have” and avoided the error you have fallen into. Not that you need to get to considering the comma before realizing what I meant, but it should have helped you resolve any quandary. You have a dirty mind and are always on the lookout for something to hang the other person with. You have attacked stories without basis even though you have also told stories which others have taken the point you were trying to make out of rather than go into irrelevancies. You have read statements wrongly even though others have read yours patiently to understand them properly. You have declared victories even though you have not made a single good argument.

Really, I think you are just irredeemably dense. Discussing with you is tiresome when one has to keep stopping to explain the meaning of “dish out” or “reason” or “any imaginary motive I have”.

Show me where I have gone out of my way to attack the JW. You Witnesses have such an exaggerated sense of importance. You really think I care about them? I don’t. Any post of mine you will find in Nairaland mentioning JW was responding to another post that, in my opinion, contained a misunderstanding or a lie. And you will always find specific reference to the matter being addressed rather than general statements putting down the Witnesses. But since you say I have “attacked” them, you should be able to produce the proof

Myjoe:Ok, you have shown that you have crase and I see you are determined to sustain a campaign of lies against me. Obviously, you don't know what you are doing to your reputation in this section. But if you still have hopes of being taken seriously,[size=14pt] please demonstrate (1) that I am angry (2) that I ever said anything about converting or "de-converting" you or any other person on this forum. [/size]For anyone reading, I have never entertained the notion of converting or "de-converting" Barristers, any member of the JW, or any member of any religion or faith group and I have never expressed such around here. But since Barristers claims I wrote something in a thread, he should be able to find the thread and the post and reclaim some credibility.

Barristers; now to reclaim my credibility(not from myjoe)but from onlookers, lets go on a journey here, on this link, page 5, post 22 (count from up towards bottom, around the middle myjoe's post with time 5:16 Pm. 3rd Aug.)https://www.nairaland.com/984261/what-does-jehovah-witness-watchtower/5

Myjoe;You gotta be kidding me! A repudiation of an intention to de-convert equals a threat to do so?

''that I ever said anything about converting or "de-converting"

what about subsequent years when renewals were made? Check the renewal form, the December 1999 one, you pasted again. I believe I see “signature” there.

“Opposers” (letter): Oga UN, did the conditions for affiliation change between 1991 (time of joining) and 2001 (time of withdrawal)?

UN: (letter): No, the conditions for affiliation did not change between 1991 and 2001.

“Opposers”: The UN says the conditions affiliation never changed. You lie! Here’s the UN’s letter.

Barristers: Where is your primary proof there was no change? Give me one! Forget calculated fabrications from opposers.

You forgot to add “slippery”.

Of course, you can’t read properly. In fact, you are a fool. Did I quote Olaadegbu or The Harp of God, Zion’s Watchtower and the Proclaimers’ book? Someone says the JW never said the world would end in 1914 and that they never changed their teaching on 1914 and I provide evidence from your literature that they did both and you are asking me if that is what was asked. Explain what was asked, you grounded rat.

Docjay487:
1874 was exact date of our Lord's return. (The Time
Is At Hand, pg 170)

1914 marked the battle of the great day of God
almighty with the complete overthrow of the earth's
rulership. (The Time Is At Hand, pg 101)

1925 Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and other Old Testament
patriarchs were resurrected and are now living on
earth. (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, pg 336)

1940 ushered the end of religion and with it the
complete downfall of satan's organization. (Religion
pg. 336)

1975 marked the end of 6,000 years of human history
and started the 1,000 year reign of Jesus Christ -
the millennium. (Life Everlasting in the Freedom of
the Sons of God, pg 29,30)

Just a quick question.
JW teaches that there is no hell fire. Where then does Satan/the Devil live?

Been reading thru this thread and I have to say...BEWARE OF APOSTATES...Jehovah's witnesses have a very thorough method of spreading the good news and that is door to door...that's what Jesus ordered that's what they follow.
On this forum MANY lies are spread

Myjoe;[b]For anyone reading, I have never entertained the notion of converting or "de-converting" Barristers, any member of the JW, or any member of any religion or faith group and I have never expressed such around here. [/b]But since Barristers claims I wrote something in a thread, he should be able to find the thread and the post and reclaim some credibility.[b]

Barristers

now that you have denied this below, go to page 5 of the other tread! see where you said it again!:
Here:

MyJoe: ''And I hope you tone down your attacks after this post. Speculate all you like about imaginary motives I have to denigrate your wonderful religion and de-convert you and your co-travellers, but if you come back at me in that manner I will assume a change of tone is in order. Have a nice day''.

1. On Monday October 8, 2001, Stephen Bates wrote an article in The Guardian of London exposing the membership as an associated NGO. Two days later, Watchtower’s applied to the UN to withdraw its membership. This withdrawal was done and is dated Tuesday October 9, 2001.

2. Access to UN Library was never at any time contingent upon any affiliation with the UN. There was no change requiring NGO's to become associated in order to gain a library card. There are hundreds of UN libraries worldwide and they can be accessed by anyone.

3. The criteria for association with the UN did not change between 1991, when Watchtower joined, and 2001, when they withdrew.

Note: The original Guardian article, the withdrawal materials, e-mail exchanges between Bates and Watchtower, and a UN document stating that there has been no changes in its membership requirements, are all in the public domain. This unthinking duo can equally go ahead and deny or simply leave the issue and reach into the gutters for more abuses. But again, anyone can research further and make up their own minds. No, I am not leaving the issue, and Barristers is wont to think. He denies, I paste the stuff on here.

But, do u agree that they failed by speculating a particular YEAR(1914,1925 and 1975) for the end?

Thanks Myjoe, u just expressed my thought. Barrister! Barrister! Ha ha...ur statement that JW did not claim that d end will arrive in 1914 is completely false.

- I laugh a laugh of derision.

- Why're you in a fir because I use the lowercase for your favourite deity? Ok, no worries, I'll start using the uppercase. I don't think your god/God cares though. If he's that petty, then he's got to be quite small.

- You "allowed" your wife to join JWs? So she couldn't have joined the religion without your permission, eh? You're presenting yourself as one fo the problems. It's no problem wiping the floor with men like you.

- If your wife is already a JW, you'd better hurry to join; they'll need you; you're already a worthy drone. Or soon,she won't be allowed to say 'Amen' when you pray if you don't join in. As noted, you're already an active JW drone.

- And, this your time-wasting activity of gaining more insight into the activities of three posters is funny, really. I laugh again. You must have a lot of time on your hands; that's not a problem; but a grown man as yourself, with children and a wife, applying discoveries on an Internet board? Lol. Well done.

- As for the Catholics: they've proved to be better than you JWs in their response to paedophilia; you JWs need to learn something from the Catholic church.

- And, since you've inserted H into the conversation: you JWs did support Hitler when your leaders thougth it would offer an advantage. That's a documented fact: documented from your Watchtower literature. Any more?

Ok, you have shown that you have crase and I see you are determined to sustain a campaign of lies against me. Obviously, you don't know what you are doing to your reputation in this section. But if you still have hopes of being taken seriously, please demonstrate (1) that I am angry (2) that I ever said anything about converting or "de-converting" you or any other person on this forum. [size=14pt]For anyone reading, I have never entertained the notion of converting or "de-converting" Barristers, any member of the JW, or any member of any religion or faith group and I have never expressed such around here. But since Barristers claims I wrote something in a thread, he should be able to find the thread and the post and reclaim some credibility.[/size]