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egift:
Am glad we are on the same page.

1. Nigerians online/offline will not be able to "verify" this YouWIN scam. Only friends, family, agent and people who are related or knew one or two people in the Presidency, Ministries, Government House, Local Government, Top party members - will be the ones to have their Biz Plans accepted. And maybe a handful of others.

2. Its also obvious that your colleague in YouWIN, Kenis - lie to all of us when he made two claims:
- That his friend posted on Facebook that he have been contacted by YouWIN and asked to come and defend his plan in person.
- He also falsely claimed that about 3million Business Plans have been collected already.

I can never be on the same page with Obubra airways, bad bad winshes, hyena's, vultures and blood suckers.
Your mates have done their bit, have written and submitted business plans like functunal humans would; yet all you can do is start howling at tree's here! Na wa o! Wetin eye no go see!

Bros, I've nearly filled a bucket with tears, just for you!

[quote author=Godman_n link=topic=817702.msg9697098#msg9697098 date=1323087735]Bros think before you show muscles. The man you supposed to be supporting have neither your interest as Igbo or that of Nigerians at heart. He is just like those before him: OBJ, IBB, and the rest.

I am Igbo and knows Jonathan have non of our interest at heart.

Let forget Tribes and face Nigeria issues. You just sounded so crude that I am ashamed my own brother will sound like this. How many time will they deceive us?

These are also your Igbo brothers fighting for the good of all us. Let understand the issues so that we can know who our true friends and enemies are. Let not repeat the mistakes of yester-years.

http://www./9jactivists/?notif_t=group_activity[/quote]My brother, you are a waste to your people.

[quote author=Godman_n link=topic=817702.msg9696757#msg9696757 date=1323085171]LIAR.

What about past "so called removal of subsidy"? Did they achieve anything? Can a thief stop a fellow and friendly thief?

LIAR.

I am sure you are paid for the evil work you doing to confuse people.

Tell us your price! Ole, kparawo, onyeochi[/quote]It has been irrevocably proven that you have no clue of what the subsidy is. Please educate yourself before asking questions, so that you understand what you are asking, cos you are very confused.
Stop trading cheap sentiments, it is a big fail. Trade hard logic instead, any old oaf can scream "liar" without making the least bit of sense.

Hall of fame:
GEJ for improving electricity supply.
Barth Nnaji for improving electricity supply.
Okonjo Iweala for bringing financial discipline to govt.
Deziani Allison madueke for blocking corruption loopholes and killing many vultures in the petroleum sector.

Hall of Shame:
Aregbesola for giving farmers "free" land in an elephant reserve in front of flashing camera's; then getting boy's to beat the poor farmers off their "free" land when nobody was looking.

Ndume for his boko haram activities. He was someone we looked to as an uncompromisingly principled progressive.

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Bruv, but you are reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaally dull sha!
I gave you a PDF of the names of those that did the selection on the other thread, yet you are asking for the same list again? Abi winshes no get brain again nowadays? Choi!

[quote author=Abu-Maryam link=topic=817702.msg9696546#msg9696546 date=1323083523]what is confusing me must subsidy be remove 100 percent? if there's anything good in it let have a litmus test, the federal government should remove 25% and put it in the order they are claiming to do. If it goes well with Nigerians i'm optimistic Nigerians will call the government to remove it completely. At this point in time people have no trust with leaders.[/quote]IMHO, GEJ wants to get rid of the entire system that allows people to legally steal the country blind. You cannot get rid of a system of theft partially if you mean to help the people. You chop it off totally instead.

GEJ has been completely silent about the whole thing, so we cannot make any definite claims that fuel costs will skyrocket. They might or might not, we simply don't have enough to reach definite conclusions. All that can be concluded at this point, is that a few hundred "owners" of Nigeria are sucking the blood of the nation, and it is 100% legal. GEJ wants to make it illegal.

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I can just imagine you typing with eyes bloodshot, red with early morning ogogoro!

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=817924.msg9696520#msg9696520 date=1323083346]Dude, you must be very stuupid to think manufacturing any fake list will make your scam real. Damn! You fooooooooooool.

Answer the simple question. [b]That list was produced by who? [/b]Give me one name among those involved in the selection process or any verifiable address or forever remain mute like coward you are.

Damn you halfwit! Lazy pricck!! >

Sorry, to disappoint you, my monthly earnings is awaay higher than 90% of Nigerians both living and dead

I have more than 12 dependants feeding from my purse. I know that is starnge to your lazy corrupt types.

My problem is, how can a 50 billion naira project will be done with such a level lack of transperancy and deep secrecy? Yap, retardinho is going to spend 50 billion naira to create 1200 jobs . How daft will ever jonadunce decend to?

You always wish am your type, lazy maggot waiting for corrupt balls to suck, abi?. Keep on wishing! [/quote]Poor sad sod. A full PDF with numerous names was given to you on the other thread where you winshes gathered to fly.
What new high story do you have to tell today? Last time, it was how the development in Akwa Ibom is to your credit, you advised Akpabio to dualise roads and bring in Julius Berger; today, its that you have 12 mouths to feed.

When will you stop lying?

[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=817702.msg9696283#msg9696283 date=1323081412]Sometimes you come across like someone who never saw the four walls of an institution of learning! The reality is, the practice and process of getting oil into Nigeria at international market price is what needs to be abolished and we have not seen any committed plan from the FG at getting this practice to come to an end.

If you think by removing subsidy, the above mentioned corruption loopholes will be blocked, then you must be deluded for real! Look at what is happening with other petroluem products the FG has technically removed subsidies from, has the prices go down? Has there being continuous availability of those products? The obvious answer is NO!

With the present state of the Nigeria Economy, one would expect that "Efficiently managed" subsidies will be the way to go until such a time that self substainability is achieved, then you can think about removing subsidies.

GEJ should get down to the business of building more refinaries, getting the products 90% refined in Nigeria, thereafter think about subsidy removal![/quote]Can you tell us the difference between the bolded and the subsidy? You are very confused indeed.
You don't even have a basic grasp of the subject matter, yet you are attempting to sell cheap sentiments. Earlier, you were angry that GEJ is gonna stop what you call demurrage in Singapore on our own oil. Who are you fooling with your duplicitous stand?

This is like a damn comedy!

Ahhhh! Rhino.5dms name is not there, cos he submitted a biz plan about how to fry kuli kuli!
He is now very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very angry!

moderatorr:
all boko harams are insane,
so it aint no new deal.

Word.

[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=817702.msg9696071#msg9696071 date=1323079849]Surely it behoves on you to understand that what He said is a misnomer in that subsidy from day one is a fraud! Why has GEJ refused to explain clearly to Nigerians why NNPC  would be paying insurance/demurrage on a ship ladden with oil 30days before it has actually left her shores in singapore?

The current economic state in Nigeria does not warrant removal of subsidy! Fix the refinaries and get them working in the next 3years, then remove subsidy afterwards knowing that much of the petroleum products are sourced in house, hence major and independent marketers would end up not paying International market rates, rather rates set by the FG inline with the projected economic state. These stuff is not rocket science to figure out and getting to implement them. It only because GEJ is highly compromised  and lacks the political will to do what is right. He cares so much about His political survival!

***An aside issue****  You saw the list of those being paid the so called subsidies, and it is obvious those companies belong to those who "installed" GEJ in office, hence the reason He refused to name the cabals.[/quote]Ok, so GEJ wants to stop NNPC paying demurrage on ships in Singapore. Why should that be painful to you if you are not confused?
And why should GEJ explain to Nigerians why that practice is in place, did he start it? No, but he's gonna put an end to that corrupt loophole, so why the crocodile tears, bruv? Who you fooling?

[quote author=Godman_n link=topic=817702.msg9695977#msg9695977 date=1323078979]You must wish me luck because it is for your good and that of all men that I fight for. I deserve luck because I stand on the right side of history.

Can't you digest my rambling and shame me. Tell me my lies. Tell me is our crude is not being stolen? Tell me if your master did not share our bribery in dollars?

Tell me the cost of drilling a liter of fuel + the refining cost: that is what Nigerians should pay for a liter of fuel. Why should some ingenious criminal to sell back our crude at international market price and call it subsidy? Is that subsidy mr. beaf?

If you have any elecment of sincerity in you should attempt these three question?

1. is our crude being massively stolen or not? What has your master done to hasten the passage of the original PIB bill and not the fake one being paraded by her minister?

2. Is the cost of fuel not = cost of drilling and cost of refining? Why must we import? Why can't our security deal with the cabals?

3. Is it not criminally ingenious to want to sell back our refined crude back to us at international market price and call it subsidy? Even if we foolishly accept it as subsidy? What is wrong with subsidising key component of your economy?

4. What improvenment has GEj brought to account for the massive borrowing? A simple question? Where is the money?[/quote]Dude, sound even more alarmingly confused than when you atarted out. I think it must be the onset of Harmattan.
Lets stick to what we have established so far, which is that you have no clue about what the oil subsidy means and how it operates; after that we can probe deeper.
Sir, tell me why you are going to be fighting (or even what you are going to be fighting) since you believe that thieves are selling our own oil back to us at inflated cost (which GEJ also believes), yet you want to fight when the instrument for stealing is removed! Damn!

You are very confused.

MRbrownJAY:
i had to look back at the data of the race because i didnt notice that during the race . . . . . . . and you guys are right!
now the important question is: why hand over a win to Webber? is it like a parting gift? a mental boost before the end of the season?

The apparent fixing of the last race only heightens my distrust for Red Bull's handling of its driver team members.
IMHO, the gap in performance between Webber and Vettel this season as compared to last, is highly suspicious. Its even more so when Webber has been the only one to break down and nurse engine problems this season (aside Vettels tyre blow up).

egift:
^^ Chai! Even BEAF don turn fake prophet for comment that wasn't even directed at him because of his desperate attempt to force this YouWIN scam down our throat.

Dude, that prayer is simply to drastically increase the mental capacity of anybody that claims they can "verify" a govt programme on NL. Wonderful!
We be fasting, sweating and praying for you, bruv.

[quote author=Godman_n link=topic=817702.msg9695826#msg9695826 date=1323077666]There is no subsidy on fuel sir. because it is gotten freely in our lands. Our government should be able to refine our fuel. If they cannot, let them head to their villages. It is not a must that any body will rule us.

Nigerians must be ruled at their own terms and not at terms dictated by the cabal and the multinationals.

Are you aware sir that half of our crude is stolen? Are you aware sir that your so called messiah lacked the will to stop this, whereas we have thousand of people that are being paid billions as security agents? The police, the army, the SSS, the NIA?

Is it not true that, he that cannot secure our resources as President, should resign and head to his village? Is it also not true that your president shared out dollars in the last PDP convention? Is it not a crime for the sole protector of our currency to loose faith in it by the preference given to dollars, even as he was committing another crime (bribery)?

Do we deserve such crooks as leaders? Can we trust them with our future sir? Is Jonathan not part of PDP that increased the price of fuel over 4 times since 1999 with the promise that our refineries will be brought back to work sir? Are they all not supposed to die for the hardship imposed our on people?

Are you aware sir, that our debts amounted to 14billion dollars by 2007, increased to 21billion by 2010 and presently stand at over 32billion in just one years ? What accounted for this than irresponsibility sir?

Are you aware sir that they have increased electricity tarriffs, manufactured a bogus vehicle number plates renewal system all to further squueeze us sir?

Are you aware sir that by the time we were electing GEJ that a tin of peak milk sells for 110 naira, and is presently selling for 140naira sir? Find out the change in the price of tin of milo or even pack of sugar sir?

Are you also aware that our naira is crumbling everyday and Sanusi's monetary policy adjustments could not save us because the reckless spending of your fake messiah sir? What are the core of your master's transformation agenda so far?

Did your master mention fuel price hike, electricity tarriff increase, or even number plate extortion during his campaign Sir?

Finally, have your master been able to manage his home fronts well? have he been able to make Patience a better wife and a better woman after years as married couples?

How can we trust our lives with one that cannot even understand that Olumba Olumba Obey is mere mortal and not God? Why did your mater not tell us that he worship with Olumba before the election?

I am also yet top understand the 500 hunderd or so witches invited at your masters swearing in ceremony, because I can't help suspecting he may be part of the beast predicted in Revelation!!!

And I am very serious, believing that standing up to him and his lords is standing up to the beast. I have no doubt that I am of God while you and your master are of the opposite!!!

Will meet you at the streets or hereafter.[/quote]Learn to write without rambling, sir. The only line in that long diatribe that is of any use is the first one.

. . .And that first line leaves me really perplexed about your state of knowledge of the subject matter. Since you believe there is no subsidy, why are you concerned about its removal? Dude, that stark contradiction of positions proves that you have zero clue about what the subsidy is. I wish you goodluck with your "revolution," its gonna be bloody comical. Imagine a revolution led by the ignorant and confused!

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This is how they cheat you people. What do they maintain on a meter you bought with your own money? Who asked them to maintain it?

AlanF100:
Dear Mr. Beaf please can answer the simple question every impoverished Nigerian is asking President GEJ since you always hold brief for him.
Does subsidy removal mean increase in our costs of living or not?
We are happy if President Jonathan is trying to correct some “wrongs” as long as his actions are only targeted at the so called cartel. We are children of history as far as “subsidy removal” is concerned and we know the only thing that ever changed, as they increased the pump price of petroleum products, is that our roads got worse, hospitals got more dilapidated, and loots reassigned.
We don’t care what he does to the cartel because we know they are his friends. They donated to his campaign and most of them are on his Economic team. Tell President Jonathan the only thing we care about is our survival.
No to pump price increase
No to increase costs of living

Can I refer you to the same question I asked in my last post? Tell us what you personally understand by the fuel subsidy and how it works. I don't want to hold fruitless arguments with people who are merely trading sentiments and willing on the ignorant.

The concept of meter maintenance is absolutely preposterous to begin with. What part of an electric meter needs maintenance?
If its broken, you simply replace it. Abi do they use them to roast boli in 9ja?

Lol @ Mr--Why and his ISI.
Are they going to be the ones fighting America if they rain down Soddom and Gomorrah spiced with Armageddon on the harpless Pakistani armed forces?

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You are jumping over your own tongue in wicked ways, bruv.

I am not asking for outpouring of emotion or directionless sentiment. Tell us objectively what you understand by fuel subsidy and how it works. The reason I am asking you is simple, I want to protect you from just running into the bush and fighting tree's to a standstill with unbounding energy.

In very concise terms, sir. What do you personally understand by fuel subsidy?

After you have told us, we will know if your words are worth it. Thanks, I am waiting.

egift:
@Kenis:
Why are you asking for my FB profile? Is that where we will verify the 3million YouWIN Business Plans you are your colleagues have amazed for free?

Or is it where we will see "your friend's" post that states he have been invited by YouWIN to come and defend his plans in person?

The link I posted was to show you that you can post a link to that "post of your friend". Nothing more. I also discovered you have not read my lecture below. Try it again (this time learn from it)

This is very daft. I wonder what sort of intelligence level you need to attempt "verifying" YouWin on NL?
Choi! This is damn sad!

Holy Ghost Fire! Holy Ghost Fire! Holy Ghost Fire! Holy Ghost Fire! Foot of Abimelech! Holy Ghost Fire!
Can we continue praying for you?

obowunmi:
Kenis is Beaf. He sounds very delusional.

And when I give you a verbal lefthook, you will run weeping to mummy.

•a publication of the list of the beneficiaries of past fuel subsidy;

•presentation of facts and figures or statistics on the true picture of the amount of fuel subsidy;

•a comprehensive release of palliative measures Nigerians will enjoy, if the subsidy is removed, and Action Plan to make the measures work; and

•concrete work plan on how to make all refineries function at optimal level.

These are the things I wanna know too, but obviously GEJ is keeping his cards close to his chest, because while a great proportion of his enemies are moral reprobates, ready to sell their mum's in the name of politics; to compound an already bad situation, most youth never read and are terribly ignorant. In that scenario, it is best to let proof of the benefits of his action speak instead of throwing a debate open.
Its sad to say, but the average Nigerian needs a lot of schooling about what their rights and circumstances are, as well as how things mesh and who their real enemies are. Without being equipped in that way, a debate would be useless. How many can even define what is meant by "fuel subsidy?"

If removing the subsidy is the only way to get rid of a bunch of leeches who have written their evil extortionate methods into the law, then so be it.

[quote author=190_@ link=topic=817723.msg9694462#msg9694462 date=1323062749]wanna have a child like that[/quote]Kai! Imagine telling all the visitors and schoolmates how daddy screamed like a girl, "aaaaoooo! ooo!!!"
Chei! Damn! No! Don't allow that to happen!

Are you planning to extend your kids vocabulary with the wrong exclamations? Lol!
If you and your she are gonna sing like canaries, bera buy the kids ear plugs.

States tend to need the FG to underwrite the sums they wish to borrow. The reason being that they produce zero revenue and get all sustenance from Abuja.
This one could be a tough one though since Aregbesola openly rejected the authority of the Vice President. The recent FRCN action might pale into insignificance as Aregbe's costs run into billions if total payback is demanded.

My bet is that Osun will run into a financial mess.

[size=14pt]N320bn required to transform Osun state - Commissioner[/size]
Written by Adewale Ajayi, Osogbo Monday, 05 December 2011

The Osun State government has said it would require the sum of N320 billion to transform the state and provide necessary infrastructure.

Speaking on how the state intended to realise the proposed amount, the state Commissioner for Finance Economic Planning and Budget, Mr Wale Bolorunduro , during a press briefing, noted that though, the state did not have that amount in its coffer, it could source for it through loan from the bank.

The commissioner explained that as of now, the state had N35 billion, and with that amount, it could approach the bank to leverage the amount on hand by seeking ten times the actual amount it had currently.

He explained that the N85 billion bond the state was seeking was part of efforts to raise the N320 Billion loan.

According to him, with that amount, capital development could be brought to every part of the state.

He explained that the road construction the state would embark on included: Gbongan to Akoda, Iwo to Osogbo; Gbonga Odeyinka; Orile –Owu; Erimo to Oke Resi, stressing that the contractors who would handle the road project would be paid after the job had been completed.

Mr Bolorunduro added that the state government had resolved all financial crisis it had with its workers, just as he added that the state was equally rendering financial assistance to farmers in the form of commercial agriculture credit scheme.

He explained that to aid the transportation sector , the state would be providing finance to members of the National Union of Road Transport Workers (NURTW) and the Road Transport Employers Association of Nigeria (RTEAN) so that they could acquire buses, just as it said through cooperative, it would be providing loan to mini bus operators in the state.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/index.php/news/32258-n320bn-required-to-transform-osun-state-commissioner

cashmentor:
If not for greedy and corrupt leaders, who is Ghana, South Africa or even Egypt that Nigeria should b tryin 2 overtake, We ought 2 b a developd state by now and even b investing in this same Canada, Ghana, SA etc, but now see, every nation wants 2 have a part of Nigeria and i wonder wat wil b left for yet unborn generations

The great thing about this article is that it is a foreign assessment, based on the hope they see in GEJ and the raw potential Nigeria has.
We can do it if we set ourselves to it.

Got kids? Careful wiv them, they be learning your "poetry!"

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afam4eva:
ASP.net is not safer per say.It's just that because it's not as commonly used as PHP it's not likely to get attacked. Who would want to assasinate a nonentity. That's how i see it.

It is safer. ASP.NET's libraries are very well designed, to the extent that even poorly written websites are difficult to hack. On the other hand, PHP was not designed, its more like a cut and nail thing, followed by frenzied patching of leaking areas.

PHP was originally created by Rasmus Lerdorf in 1995. The main implementation of PHP is now produced by The PHP Group and serves as the de facto standard for PHP as there is no formal specification.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP

Laughable, especially in this day and age.

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None of these things worked in the last Lagos LG elections.

[size=14pt]Nigeria: Hoping to topple South Africa[/size]
Published On Sun Dec 4 2011
By Rick Westhead

https://media.thestar.topscms.com/images/c8/c3/b7159ab0443d88f2002c628a6d00.jpeg
President Goodluck Jonathan wants to reform the country's power sector. (PIUS UTOMI EKPEI/AFP/GETTY IMAGES)
 
Africa’s largest country has more going for it than its infamous email spammers.

Massive oil deposits, for instance.

With proven reserves of 38.5 billion barrels of crude, Nigeria is the leading oil producer in Africa, with a revenue stream of about $40 billion (U.S.) a year.

As oil prices surge, Nigeria’s economy is growing and Canadian companies are anxious to capitalize.

At least 200 Canadian companies are doing business in Nigeria, a number poised to skyrocket as the country’s power sector continues evolves, says Chris Cooter, Canada’s high commissioner to Nigeria.

“Canada will go the whole hog with you,” Cooter said in a recent speech in Lagos. “There is a global awareness that something massive is unfolding in the power industry in Nigeria.”

FULL COVERAGE: Emerging Markets

President Goodluck Jonathan has said reforming the power sector is his “highest priority,” and he has created a government agency to privatize six generating companies and 11 other distributors. Jonathan has pledged to triple electricity supply by 2013.

Some investors already like what they see. Nigeria’s economy is growing at around 7 per cent and Standard Bank says it will eclipse South Africa by 2015 to become Africa’s largest.

Analysts even speculate that Nigeria could become a G20 country, and the country is anxious to improve its international profile. Nigeria contributed most of the troops to the African Union’s first peacekeeping force in Sudan. It has also has sent troops to Burundi and Sierra Leone and recently had a temporary seat on the UN Security Council.

But problems remain.

Jonathan is from southern Nigeria, and is unpopular in the predominantly Muslim north, where the extremist Muslim group Boko Haram is based. Boko Haram doesn’t seem to have much problem stoking discontent.

About 70 per cent of Nigerians live on less than $2 a day and the average life expectancy is just 51 years (compared to 81 for Canada). In 2005, a U.S. intelligence report speculated Nigeria could yet become a failed state, a bigger version of Congo or Somalia.

Still, several Canadians are optimistic.

CPCS Transcom, based in Ottawa, was hired to develop a master plan for public transport in Lagos and oversaw the privatization of the city’s port, a $1.4 billion (U.S.) deal that was completed in only 14 months, said Lucien Bradet, president of the Canadian Council on Africa.

CPCS recently brought a delegation of Nigerian diplomats to visit the Toronto Transit Commission. The government plans to build a new 30-kilometre subway line in Lagos and is considering buying parts from the TTC, Bradet said.

Toronto’s Nexen Inc. is involved in the oil-and-gas sector, and Montreal’s CRC Sogema won a contract to reform Nigeria’s tax system, helping the government crack down on tax dodgers.

“Canada doesn’t really have a lot of product to sell. . . we’re more in the knowledge business and that’s very important in Africa now,” Bradet said.

“You look at Nigeria and it’s the 7th largest country in the world, one that’s had a government elected fairly and squarely for the past 10 years. There’s no sector where the opportunity isn’t right outside your door.”

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1096275--nigeria-hoping-to-topple-south-africa

They lost by a landslide in the end, so no amount of "science" can give it to them. Nigerians need to learn to lose gallantly and behave maturely.