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Really? You wanna go test guys like Tompolo? I love NL and the way we can just make claims.
Dude, those guy's regularly fed 9ja soldiers to the croc's in large numbers. How many times did you see headlines like "JTF lose 25 soldiers?" Why do you think govt capitulated with the amnesty escape route after spending $3.3billion to arm JTF?

I de laf o!

Demdem:
^^^^^^^^^^

What about Udaughan the chief Dog of Delta, what deductions can you make from baraje's comments like u did for "Silver"

What about Aregbesola, the RASCALLY 419 governor? The man "buying" trains where no tracks exist?

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=782856.msg9358359#msg9358359 date=1318859473]3 out of almost 30 ? That sounds like failure for a party that intends to rule Nigeria forever.[/quote]The only one ACN has, they desperately try to impeach every year. Why?
Nobody is impeaching the PDP performers.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=782802.msg9357172#msg9357172 date=1318850952]You must be suffering from amnesia if you think I was arguing for the cultural viewpoint of the "rightness" of a barbaric act of child abuse. abi you are getting old ni?

Unlike you, I don't see the issue of child abuse as a Northern or Southern problem. It is a national problem. You have the Almajiris in the North, Child laborers (housemaids) etc in the South, child trafficing for prostitution, and baby factories in the South. We will support GEJ's efforts in addressing these issues. olodo[/quote]Alhaji, stop misfiring. Nothing in the Middle Belt or South can remotely compare to the abject hopelessness of the almajiri; children cut off all hopes, dreams and aspirations, with no life compass except the grotesquely skewed one supplied by extreme religion and ever-present hunger pangs. It is not just the experience, but the sheer number of children suffering this abuse, 10million! That is more than the population of two thirds of the Worlds countries. A horrible shocker.

When you say you will support GEJ's efforts, just how are you proposing to do this? Because as I said earlier, the core-North needs a full cultural rebirth to rid itself and the country off the almajiri curse.

Ayowumie:
Mind you, there are places you refer to as the core north. Even though, it is not used in "official" term, the term exists. It used to create a distinction between the north and the north-central. In general sense, it used to point out states that are predominantly muslim in the north. The reason why they dont use the term "core" for south is because religion is not a major factor of divide in the south.
You are wrong, Bauchi and Borno are also referred to as core north. You can only eliminate them if by "core-north", you only limit you definition to north-west and even if you do this, your definition should be explicitly stated.

The term, core-North has nothing to do with Islam, otherwise Kwara would be classified as core-North. Your definition fails.
The core-North refers to states that are predominantly Hausa-Fulani or are strongly allied to the Hausa-Fulani.

Koolking:
Let's be real. Who are these performing govts?

I think we can safely name Amaechi, Chime, Akpabio, Sanusi Lamido etc.

Demdem:
here we go again, spinning our way out of the main crux of the thread. which is PDP. Refer to those Aregbe thread abegiiiii

What about Udaughan the chief Dog of Delta

This is in response to this from you

The thread is not about being foolishly partisan and asking dim questions when those much worse than anything the PDP can throw up are manning the towers in ACN states. Tell me which governor is worse than the remarkably useless Aregbesola?

Dude, go home to your party and make sure that the likes of Aregbesola will NEVER EVER be inflicted on Nigeria again. As you can see, others are taking care of their shiit, not pretending to be holy.

Demdem:
^^^^^^

refer to ACN threads and we will tackle it there. This is PDP issue. i only asked a simple question:

What about Udaughan the chief Dog of Delta

What about Aregbesola the worst piece of shiit known in naija politics? Deal with that as an ACN stooge.

Demdem:
^^^^^

What about Udaughan the chief Dog of Delta

Why don't you mind ACN business like the clown called Aregbesola? That goon is the worst piece of shiite to hit the political scene.

What I can read from Baraje is, bye bye governor Sylva.

Orikinla:
Beaf,
Please, read my first post.
I did not start with pointing accusing fingers at any corrupt political godfather. You did. And I only reminded you of that of your Saint Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan.

You are dodging the issue you raised. You claimed that Tinubu is a saint while in the very same breath talking about "corrupt godfathers in the PDP." Don't you think it is hypocritical to demand proof that Tinubu is corrupt while tarring others in the same breath?
My brother, all parties are corrupt and in many ways ACN is much more corrupt than PDP, so lets not make vain attempts to resurrect the sugar coated nonsense that has died a natural death since the last elections.

For emphasis, Tinubu is corrupt and is surrounded by corrupt men. Even Fashola himself is corrupt, its just that in his case we are willing to overlook one or two things (at least, for now), because the man has done quite well. The same goes to Amaechi, Chime and Lamido Sanusi of Jigawa.

I have noticed a trend on NL as a non-Igbo.

[list]
[li]Igbo man opens a sob thread[/li]
[li]Eko Ile and his crew pop in and start crying foolishly about Lagos[/li]
[li]Their supporters join in the "Lagos issue" and it becomes a free for all[/li]
[/list]

Can we just stop stirring up these ethnic issues?

Orikinla:
I know Oloye Tinubu more than Fashola since the days of June 12 crisis and was his guest before I left Lagos. Until he is convicted of corruption, I cannot accuse him of any corrupt practices since I don't have any evidence. If you have the evidence, you can e-mail it to me if you are really honest and serious.

Personally, I feel sorry for Jonathan, because he is more at the mercy of his godfathers than Fashola. If Oloye Tinubu is as you said the problem of Fashola, than what of Jonathan and his corrupt godfathers in the PDP?

I am sure your weak excuse of waiting for Tinubu to be convicted applies equally to those you call "corrupt godfathers in the PDP?" It is strange the way you have contradicted yourself so completely.
The drug running Tinubu is as corrupt as the likes of IBB and Atiku; just as the bulk of the top men in his party are ex-PDP. Any claims of relative sainthood are mangy and bloody hypocritical.

namfav: the yoruba are more trustworthy atleast you can predict them, whether they want there own republic, they did not stab us in the back, so no ill will be felt, however we know, since the ibo coup plotters, we will not forget what you did, that is why you'll have to answer to every northerner when you break apart, as long as we are together we can work together to make nigeria better, but when you secede, you have to answer for your crimes so if you are not prepared to fight just keep quiet


i remeber when the corpers were killed, how many people were crying for every easterner to leave the north, and you say you want to fight for what, we know cowards and no war against northerners you will win, never, and it is all about quantity, i know my way in the north i see alot of easterners, i went to school with many of them too, there are more women and children of eastern extraction than young men who have the quality to fight, but you will talk, you are begging for a war but when it happens you will run back to the bushes in cameroon, these time dont return

I have told this clown elsewhere that any new war will be fought in the North, so no Southerner is gonna leave and come home when our JTF is patrolling the streets of Daura and kicking arse (thats what arming a force with $3.3billion oil money to phuck up ND peeps can do to those with only sand to show. . . Karma!).
The place will simply be conquered by imponderably raw, massive and relentless force; all that almajiri and 10 year old bride nonsense will come to an immediate end. Under our rule, nobody will "love" school more than the core-Northerner. LOL!

Orikinla:
Sometimes, you come across as an intelligent person, but the reply is DUMB.

Who says Babatunde Raji Fashola can never be the President of Nigeria?

I see you are allowing sentiment overtake you. Except he becomes man enough to escape Tinubu's ugly embrace, he will NEVER become President. Do you remember his very own words during the election period when pressure was put on him to run? He said he had several uncompleted projects that would be used to get him; he has four years to throw off Tinubu and cover up the tracks from his uncompleted projects. Four years is a short time and he is yet to start.

The immeasurably corrupt Tinubu is Fashola's umbilical cord and he himself has presidential ambitions (God forbid). So why fool yourself that Fashola would ever run for President? The man is simply going to become a local champ after his tenure has ended, maybe as a senator (or something similar) to remain relevant.

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There are enough such pics if you 'll bother to look.
Unfortunately, Fashola (good as he is) will NEVER become President of Nigeria because he has remained a coward, too scared to kick Tinubu, the frog-eyed thief into the long grass.

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Like I said, the issue is more cultural than finacial. The only way to solve the problem is a change of leadership in the core-North (that is the only way that culture can be changed). Throwing money at the illiteracy problem there will just be the same as making a burnfire of dollar bills.
The abysmally poor leadership of that region is not only the countries worst nightmare, but also the greatest clog in our wheel of development.

[size=14pt]Ultra-modern UBE school projects in Rivers inspire other state governments[/size]
On March 3, 2011 · In Education
By Dayo Adesulu

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Dame Alice Lawren Nemi, Commissioner For Education

The maiden quarterly summit involving the management of the Universal Basic Education Commission (UBEC) and the Executive Chairmen of State Universal Basic Education Boards (SUBEBs) from all over the country, which recently held in Port Harcourt, turned out to be an eye-opener for most state governments in the country.

During the four-day meeting, the visiting SUBEB Chairmen had the golden opportunity of seeing for themselves the ultra-modern primary and junior secondary schools that earned the award of the best SUBEB in the South-South geo-political zone for Rivers State last year.

The Executive Secretary of UBEC, Dr Ahmed Modibbo Mohammed, who led his management team on the inspection tour of some of the project sites in the state was particularly fascinated by the modern school buildings which are equipped with state-of –the-art facilities, describing the State Model Primary School, Elekahia, State Model Primary Schools in Ebubu, Eelme as well as the UBE Model Primary Schools at Orominike, Ndele, Evekwu and in many other communities across the state as amongst the best in the world.

Equally commended by the UBEC boss is the modern UBE Model Secondary School, Rumuopraeli which has hostel facility where only two students are accommodated in a room. This impressed him so much that he asked the Rivers SUBEB to showcase these infrastructure to the world through a documentary, asking other SUBEB Chairmen to take a cue from the sundry accomplishments of their host.

The quarterly meeting between the management team of UBEC and SUBEBs, which is to be rotated among the states of the federation, is to enable UBEC have an on the spot assessment of UBE projects of states as well as to see the challenges facing the SUBEBs rather than rely alone on the reports of officers specially designated to monitor and evaluate UBE programmes in the country. It is also meant to provide a platform for Executive Chairman of SUBEBs to compare strategic and tactical notes on the management of UBE programme, to constantly review progress in basic education delivery in order to do justice to the UBE mandate as well as to deal with other issues of interest that could ensure improved performance in basic education delivery by SUBEBS, Local Government Education Authorities and Schools.

While making his welcome remarks, the Executive Chairman of Rivers SUBEB Sir Alli Oruitemeka said the state has adopted a Total School Concept that involves the construction of 750 Model 14 Classroom Block schools equipped with state-of-the-art. Information and Technology as well as laboratory equipment. He added that as at October last year, the construction of 125 Model Schools had been completed while another 350 are close to completion, the totality of which will provide accommodation for more than 250,00 pupils at 30 pupils per classroom.

Oruitemeka, whose Board was inaugurated on July 24, 2009, gave kudos to Governor Rotimi Amaechi for declaring a state of emergency in the state’s education sector in 2007 shortly after he was sworn in, adding that the near total collapse of the school system caused by dilapidated infrastructure, low personnel morale and lack of commitment by pupils goaded the governor to take that step.

The state SUBEB boss commended Governor Amaechi for releasing to UBEC last year the counterpart funds for 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 which enabled the state government to access Federal Government intervention funds from UBEC, explaining that these funds are now being utilized for the construction and equipping of additional 23 Model Schools of 14 classrooms all over the local government areas of the state. These schools, according to him, will be exact prototype of the Model Primary School at Elekahia, adding that Rivers State may be considered a model of the UBE programme.

Apart from the payment of the state’s counterpart funds and the construction of modern school buildings, says Oruitemeka, the other emergency measures taken by the governor which have turned around the state’s education sector include the taking over of payment of salaries and allowances of teaching and non-teaching staff at the basic level, liquidation of salary arrears and leave bonuses and the provision of durable and comfortable pupils’ and teachers’ furniture.

He says further: “In order to give effect to the goal of free education for all at the basic education level Governor Amaechi in October last year also instituted a programme of providing free school uniforms, sandals and books to pupils. On the part of the Board, we have intensified monitoring and evaluation of teaching and learning, restructured and merged schools for greater efficiency, carried out needs based training programmes for both teaching and non-teaching staff; provided teaching aids and consumables in schools and executed achievement tests for pupils”. Speaking in the same vein, Hon.

Lucky Worluh, a Permanent Member 1 of Rivers SUBEB, the Board did not only concentrate on equipping the schools with textbooks and instructional materials but also carried out a merger of the schools to ensure that they are efficiently and effectively run. Thus, from the 1,077 schools which it inherited in 2009 from its predecessor, the Board reduced them to a manageable 868 schools.

As part of restructuring of basic schools and their operations in the state, Worluh said that the appointment of head teachers, principals and their deputies was streamlined using standards of justice and fairness based on seniority, explaining that this was followed by numerous workshops for building the capacity of the personnel.

These workshops, says the Board Member 1, include that of effective teaching of English Language, Introductory Technology, Mathematics and Science; workshop on role of school-based management committee on self-help projects/JSS systems; workshop on basic computer training for primary school teachers; enhancing pedagogical skills for Jss1-3 teachers and that of professional development workshop for primary school teachers.

Training workshop for JSS teachers of English based on the new curriculum for JSS 1-3, two workshops on the Millennium Development Goals, workshop for newly appointed supervisors covering innovative methodology in quality curriculum delivery and effective record keeping and scheduled quarterly supervision of schools were also organized by the Board in the last 18 months with the state Ministry of Education under the commissionership of Dame Alice Lawrence Nemi complementing the Board’s capacity training program by forging a deal with the British Council on the training of teachers and managers of education in the state.

Within six months of its inauguration, the headquarters of the state’s Board was similarly restructured into various departments including Academic Services, Quality Assurance, Social Mobilization, Planning, Research and Statistics, Special Projects, Finance and Accounts, Junior Secondary, Primary, Early Child Care Development Education and Administration and Supplies.

The restructuring of the Board, according to Oruitemeka¸ is to position it to achieve its objectives of managing primary and junior secondary schools in the state, provide guidelines and estimates on the establishment of new schools and capital projects, liaise with other bodies and co-ordinate the implementation of UBE related activities in the state amongst others.

Worluh also revealed that the Board gives priority attention to building teachers’ capacity, especially to empower them in the area of implementation of the 9-year Basic Education Curriculum, he says, while over 2,000 others have undergone training organized by the National Teachers Institute.

Speaking at the event which held at the Hotel Presidential, Port Harcourt, Amaechi said his government spent about N70 billion on education alone last year, saying that the expenditure is expected to increase this year. He reiterated his administration’s determination to provide free, qualitative education for Rivers indigents.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/03/ultra-modern-ube-school-projects-in-rivers-inspire-other-state-governments/

lwise:
The government behave as if they were not aware of this uprising.Jonathan is not saying anything now oooo.

If you were him, what would you say? Dude, understand your country deeply, so that you don't just speak from a position of fear only. Do you really want the country to remain in control of corrupt ex-generals who will continue to dictate your future?
I am certain that GEJ wants the best for the country and is thinking miles ahead.

wesley80:
^^^ It isnt just about this particular prophecy but his entire prophecies past and present. The question is do we understand the SCALE of the problem ahead? Do you? It is one thing to claim to be smart and guess the future based on current trends and another to stick out your neck and make a bold statement about the future.

I honestly do not understand people any longer, how can a man that has been proven right so many times be dismissed so casually? Imagine the scorn and abuse he's had to endure for speaking things that have eventually come to pass yet people still dismiss him every time he opens his mouth to speak. It just keeps amazing me, how can people be so stiffnecked?

I am yet to see any of his prophecies that has been fulfilled. The way these things work is that they are non-specific enough and leave ample leaway for wriggling or outright escape.

I want a prophet to tell me, "on Sunday, the 27th of November, a, b and c events will occur at exactly 1 o clock, 2:35pm and 6:43am." But will they? Can they?

tolu001:
That was pork beaf for u there. He is a well-known GEJ apologist on NL, nobody takes him serious here again.

Learn to ignore him next time, he can be very irritating

Pork? Lol!
Each time you folk ignore the issue at hand to attack personalities, you expose the smallness of your minds. Truth might "irritate" you, but is the topic that difficult?

Where will the money to finance free education come from? Most of the core-Northern states generate very little money.

Strangely, at the time I was in school, Unity school students from those areas got very hefty federal govt student and travel allowances to encourage them to go to school. Several states further augmented those allowances with provision allowances and other rubbish; these monies were paid directly to the students, so needless to say, they were always well watered.
The allowances mentioned above are aside from the much lower Jamb cutoff marks required by the quota system for people from these areas, yet they remain educationally disadvantaged, so quite clearly the problem lies elsewhere.

The levels of illiteracy in the core-North is a cultural issue that cannot be fixed with free education.

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Sadly, the West will have little say if a new war breaks out. [b]Nigeria's money all comes from the ND [/b]and take it or leave it that area is now becoming the most powerful political block in the country. But its ok to continue living in your dreams and wonderland, just don't be asleep when the door is knocked.

peleson:
@Beaf,,wer will FCT,Niger,nasarawa kwara fall into because,ds boko haram states v dia sympathizers in all these places .Personally, i really dnt want them included with us to avoid Gaza kind of conflict in the future

More than half of Kwara is Yoruba, so the place will be split, the other areas you mentioned (aside from the FCT) can join boko haram.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=782802.msg9356595#msg9356595 date=1318846254]Cut the bull and stop blaming North for for everything under the sun. The said bill actually passed a second reading in the senate and  its supporters included Northerners. GEJ has pledged to agressively support childern's rights and his leadership on the matter is needed now, more than ever before. No child in Nigeria deserves to be abused as the Almajiris, the children sold into slavery, the children used as housemaids, and the children trafficed overseas for prostitution. Let us urge and support GEJ in this matter. GEJ pledged to address the problem was elected, we await his leadership.[/quote]Should we blame Middle Belters and Southerners for the almajiri culture then? Strange reasoning indeed, its like running away from your own shadow.
Whenever your Senate (including "Northerners" passes the law to be signed by GEJ, I'm sure he will sign it. Until that day, any inertia in recognising child rights in Nigeria is from the core-North. Where you not among those either sitting on the wall or arguing for the cultural viewpoint of the "rightness" of marrying girls off at tender ages as backed by sharia when the Yerima 13 year old bride issue was raging? You can't eat your cake and have it, bruv.

Cultures have to be trashed as a first step and that begins with introspection by your people, not Middle Belters or Southerners who do not have 20% of their kids as almajiri's.

All these prophets and their yeye prophecies sef!

The man is simply more intelligent than 90% or more of his congregation and is saying stuff that he does not need the "power of prophesy" to see, which is that any so-called mass protest will backfire very resoundingly indeed.
He is too scared to say tell the reason why, though; so I will help him by saying it is because he knows that any such protest will be based on foolishness. There are two reasons for this, (a) Nigeria is not united in any way, (b) the masses will be fighting the fight of their true oppressors, the IBB's and ex-generals who have the country in their pocket.

It is unfortunate that the average Nigerian is fast becoming a sentimental being that will not even pause for a moment to think things through, but would rather lash out fuelled by sentiment and powered by instinct. We aren't animals and this new fad of screaming without thinking will do a lot to sink the boat.

TB Joshua: Today at the synagogue church of all nations, he said 'i see people(workers) in uniform protesting with placards all over the streets. It will come to a point that they will stand in front of the houses of big men saying 'we need food!'.

Mint.
Learn the terrain, reason and rationalise; or you will end up fighting with all your strength to defeat yourself.

dinggle:
Idiots! both of them are olodo,  they left the corrupt politicians to turn their guns against each other, do u guys knw how much Nigeria will change if Niger-delta militant and boko haram join hands to reclaims Nigeria's stolen wealth from past/present politicians.

. . .The Nigerian disease of praying for someone else to do the dirty job of saving them is evident here. Bera dust your pants and polish your AK yourself.
ND militants only task is to fight for the emancipation of the people from injustice, what is boko harams? After answering that question, lets then ask ourselves if they remotely have anything in common.

mtaj:
How do you come by your definition of the core-North? There is no place called the core-North in Nigeria. I presume you are trying to say that these are the states that have the highest percentage of Muslims, in which case you should be ready to coin a new name for those states in the Southwest that have a sizeable percentage of Muslims.

The term "core-North" was coined by core-Northerners themselves in Obj's time; I certainly didn't coin it (much as I love its implied and unfortunate meaning). It was meant to place a distinction between them and Middle Belters (Obj cunningly chose to give ranking positions to Middle Belters as "Northeners," and the "core-Northerners" kicked up dust and hell. Please blame them, thank you.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=782802.msg9350286#msg9350286 date=1318766464]Let me first state categorically that the problem of Almajirai can be solved in only 5 years if the will to do so exists. It is a known fact that the Almajiris of the North and the ordinary people of the Niger Delta area, including the ogonis who continue to live in abject poverty while the few elite enrich themselves and their cronies by stealing the wealth generated from the Niger Delta region, are indeed the most marginalized groups in Nigeria. I say again that the shame belongs to all of you people who refuse to demand a change by using your voting rights sensibly.

The concept of Almajirai has been bastardized and is no longer a nobel cause of turning a child into a Islamic scholar. Today, a child becomes an Almajiri when there is high striking poverty line in his family to take care of his essential needs such as sustenance. Some children are forced to become one simply when they lose their parents and when their relatives or guardians cannot keep them. Most of such children become victims when their parents send them to Quranic schools outside their hometowns. Have you ever wondered why the children of the elite, governors, doctors, engineers, even civil service workers, are not Almajiri?

The practice of Almajirai today,  is nothing but gross child abuse which must be punishable by law. If this child abuse is left unchecked, there will be more  Boko Harams and even worse in the near future because Nigeria's Almajiri children are learning a life of poverty and violence.

[b]In  2008 there was a raging debate over the Bill for an act to provide for the establishment of the National Commission for the Eradication of Child Destitution in Nigeria, otherwise known as almajiri bil. [/b]The fact that it  passed a second reading in the senate is a clear pointer to how serious the almajiri issue is to many people. Unfortunately, the bill was never passed.  I urge GEJ to submit another version of the bill to NASS for immediate consideration, in light of the security challenges we face.

No child should be subjected to the kind of child abuse which the Almajiris experience daily.[/quote]Mallam, please cut out the tears about Ogoni people when the current issue is almajiri. You cannot divert our attention with any tricks.

As for the almajiri bill, what were the real reasons it wasn't passed? I'm asking that question because I know for sure that the core-North is the ONLY region that has kicked against, openly challenged and shamefully subverted the child rights act, because of the twin disgraceful reasons of almajirinci and the culture of child brides (most would call it paedophilia). Some as of these child brides are as young as 10 years old, and senator Yerima with his 13 year old Egyptian bride is a stand out example. How can we ever move the region forward when we are obstructed with such startling cultural views?

[quote author=Mr--Why link=topic=782802.msg9355665#msg9355665 date=1318837601]What are the Northern Elites doing to educate their populace ?[/quote]It is a really sad case, they are looking for avenues to chop oil money and are strategising for 2015; in the meantime 20% of all core-Northern kids are almajiri's.

blacksta:
What will happen if the all the weak states go bankrupt and similar states like Lagos survive ?

If the weaker states go bankrupt, Nigeria will break up and even Lagos will not survive. Its only real source of revenue is the ports, and they wouldn't have much business, because most businesses will leave with other ports gaining prominence. For West African business, compared to the highly efficient machine that is the Cotonou port, Lagos ports will lose out.

The only way out is for Nigeria to massively take on manufacturing.

I wonder why some folk wouldn't ask themselves the more pertinent question about what wealth their own home states generate and why they cannot afford to buy a single aircraft? The answer will go a long way to solving every last issue that is stalling Nigeria's development.

llbhuds:
does saying d truth makes one sentimental dis days?
no come dey blow grammar without knowin d meaning here joor
is he going to build any schl better dan the ones built by speb those days?

When did sentiment become the truth? Ol' boy go and school yourself.

All I see here is rampant foolishness, jealousy and sentiment in place of logic.
Nobody is questioning the fact that Rivers state can afford 3 of such aircraft (one of which has been sold); I guess it is because most states produce nothing aside what they can beg off the FG, also many of us do not travel so we think our dismal local realities extend across the all of the country. It isn't so, poverty levels are relative from state to state and regardless of what you think (aside Bayelsa), poverty levels in the SS are about the lowest in the country.