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First a backdrop that is impossible to reconcile:

"I will continue to show openly and inside me the total commitment to the Sharia movement that is sweeping all over Nigeria,".

"God willing, we will not stop the agitation for the total implementation of the Sharia in the country,"

- General Buhari

Revealing a chilling prophetic vision, Bakare said: "Neither Buhari nor IBB nor Obasanjo nor Atiku will be part of the new Nigeria. They are part of the old that has decayed and is still decaying. The new is coming forth. It is the counsel of the Lord that shall stand in this nation. Until the sons of turmoil destroy themselves, this nation will not know peace."

- Pastor Tunde Bakare

God Told Me To Run With Buhari
http://pmnewsnigeria.com/2011/02/01/bakare-god-told-me-to-run-with-buhari/print/

- Pastor Tunde Bakare

Mixed Christian reactions:

Prelate, Methodist Church Nigeria , Dr. Ola Makinde said there was nothing wrong if church members should go into politics but that ministers of God who pastured congregation should not go into politics.

He said it was wrong for Bakare to have joined a party and go into politics, saying that men of God should be apolitical.

According to him, such a thing could spark a row in the church, especially when some of his members belonged to other political parties different from his.

Primate Elijah Ayodele, founder of INRI Evangelical Spiritual Church said “we have career pastors, divine pastors and ‘I wish pastors.’ If God chooses you, you don’t need to go into politics.

“Bakare is a career pastor; he can do anything to make himself relevant. This election will be a mirage because Jega will disappoint Nigeria .”

Dr. Olagoroye Faleyimu, General Overseer, Mountain of God said: it is not good for a minister to leave the pulpit for politics.

“But God can choose a leader if there is crisis. God had warned Bakare to choose between politics and being on the pulpit. He should choose one.”

Rev. Oladapo Daramola of the Methodist Church Nigeria said he did not see anything wrong for Bakare going into politics, saying that it is Biblical for Christians to go into politics.

“In those days, priests act in political capacity. If there is a word from God, there is nothing wrong for him to go into politics. Joseph was a Prime Minister in Egypt and Daniel was a minister in the cabinet of Babylon .

“We need people that are righteous in politics; people who will not steal and take our money away or to countries overseas,” he stated.

According to Pastor Wale Adekoya of the Christ Redemption Bible Church, Ketu, Lagos going into politics depended on the call of God, stressing that God could call out a minister to go into politics.

http://pmnewsnigeria.com/2011/02/01/bakare-god-told-me-to-run-with-buhari/print/

johndoe200:
The problem with you is that you are an intellectual pygmy. What gives you the right to call me a sycophant?

I understand your problem, just that there is no cure. The truth is out:


[size=14pt]FRESH AIR 2011[/size]

Chei! Odun mi gidigidi gan!
The quote above is endorsed by Beaf.

lionness:
and there goes the f00l called beaf/ feab high lighting something so meaningless,
we are not blind, and we are not deaf,
another useless unemployed youth: a product of pdp of course.

As usual, logic is absent. It must be a really hard life to be intellectually poverty stricken, you can't even say anything positive for your candidate. Na wa o!

Rewind!. . .

Latest film:
[size=14pt]The coming Together of the Sons of Turmoil[/size]
Now showing in all cinema's. Doh!

[size=14pt]"I will continue to show openly and inside me the total commitment to the Sharia movement that is sweeping all over Nigeria," Buhari said, quoted in press reports.

"God willing, we will not stop the agitation for the total implementation of the Sharia in the country,"[/size]

- Gen. Buhari

Revealing a chilling prophetic vision, Bakare said: "Neither [size=14pt]Buhari [/size] nor IBB nor Obasanjo nor Atiku will be part of the new Nigeria. They are part of the old that has decayed and is still decaying. The new is coming forth. It is the counsel of the Lord that shall stand in this nation. [size=14pt]Until the sons of turmoil destroy themselves, this nation will not know peace[/size]."

- "Pastor" Tunde Bakare

. . .Smoking!!!!!!

. . .Yet they were willing to partner with him just days ago?

GEJ, carry go! April is yours!
[size=14pt]Fresh Air 2011![/size]

[size=14pt]Buhari not a serious candidate, says ACN[/size] .
Thursday, 03 February 2011 00:05 Nigerian Compass   

DAYS after the alliance talks between the Congress for Progressive Change (CPC) and the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) collapsed,  the rivalry between the two parties deepened yesterday.

The ACN described the CPC presidential flagbearer for the April 9 election, Major-General Muhammadu Buhari (rtd) as an unserious candidate.

It said if not for Buhari’s unyielding nature, despite the compelling need to consider the overriding national interest, the alliance would have defeated the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) candidate, President Goodluck Jonathan.

ACN accused Buhari of not demonstrating “sufficient seriousness and political will to forge a workable electoral cooperation” and has thus called off any alliance between it and the CPC.
In a letter written by the party’s National Chairman, Chief Bisi Akande, and addressed to his  CPC counterpart, Prince Tony Momoh, the ACN gave other reasons for calling off the alliance to include the fact that “it (ACN) no longer considers a merger feasible.”



Akande explained in the letter that his party, which preferred a merger, commenced discussions with Buhari in 2005.

“As proof of our willingness and sincerity, we even decided to adopt his party’s name and logo. This was when he was in ANPP. This dream never materialised,” the party chairman stated.

He also explained that it was Buhari and former Vice President Atiku Abubakar who pulled out of the National Democratic Movement, formed by opposition groups and parties at the time the ACN “pursued it with enthusiasm, dedication and great hope.”

According to the ACN, even after the collapse of the NDM, it still pursued a relationship with Buhari and his party and that the CPC always preferred an alliance to a merger which, according to Akande, “has never been an attractive option and its workability is undoubtedly problematic because of the low level of literacy of the majority of our voters, among others.”

The ACN chairman also explained that his party was glad with the turnout of the talks because it’s presidential candidate “Malam Nuhu Ribadu is very much in the image of General Buhari.”

Akande, therefore, called for both parties to continue to work together “even after the general elections.”

Speaking in the same vein, the party’s National Publicity Secretary, Alhaji Lai Mohammed, said although he does not owe the PDP any explanation on the failed alliance with the CPC, he would explain reasons for the failure to Nigerians.

He said the main reason the alliance failed was the recalcitrance and unbending attitude of the CPC, led by  Buhari.

‘’For purely patriotic reasons and in the national interest, we made a lot of concessions to make the alliance work, but the CPC simply stuck to a take-it-or-leave-it attitude, behaving all through the talks as if it was the senior partner in the alliance.

‘’We invited Buhari to run for the presidency on the platform of our party. That means we were willing to even sacrifice our own candidate for the good of all.  But the CPC insisted that not only must the alliance field Buhari, he must run on the platform of the CPC.

‘’We thought this demand was quite unreasonable, considering the pedigree of the ACN. Yes, CPC may be a popular party but it is largely untested. On the other hand, ACN is not only popular but it is well tested. We have four governors, many Senators and House of Representatives members, huge number in Houses of Assembly and many council chairmen.

‘’Going into April’s election, we have a Plus 3 Advantage, in that three of our governors will not contest and two will remain in office till 2014!
‘’But the people in the CPC want us to not only concede the presidency, but also to lose our identity, when they bring little to the table. Of course, we rejected that demand, which will be akin to committing political suicide. It was difficult enough having to explain to our members why we are offering to sacrifice our own presidential candidate for Buhari.

‘’To even assure Buhari, who is apparently smarting from the backstabbing he suffered from his former party, ANPP, we said if and when he wins the presidency, we can go to congress and change the name, logo and other identities of the ACN to reflect the new reality brought forth by the alliance. Again the CPC refused. We were left wondering whether indeed the people in the CPC believe in their candidate and want him to become President.

‘’Well, we can tell Nigerians that we have made the biggest sacrifice by offering to bring Buhari on board at the expense of our own candidate - just to save Nigeria from the stranglehold of the PDP. The offer we made to him is a great risk. After all, he can ride on our back to become president and then defect to another party or jettison the alliance. Didn’t the governors of Zamfara, Bauchi, Abia and Imo defect to the PDP? Didn’t a sitting VP decamp to our party?

‘’We leave it to Nigerians to judge which of the parties in the alliance remained unyielding to the end, despite the compelling need to consider the overriding national interest. But we will like to assure our teeming supporters nationwide and indeed all Nigerians that our party, going it alone, will ensure that the PDP does not steal the votes of Nigerians to secure another fluke presidential mandate. The clueless party is beatable, and we will send it packing!’’ ACN said.


http://www.compassnewspaper.com/NG/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=74472:-buhari-not-a-serious-candidate-says-acn&catid=43:news&Itemid=799

If Delta state where you have the highest FDI in Nigeria isn't there, then your list is totally wrong.

Latest film:
[size=14pt]The coming Together of the Sons of Turmoil[/size]
Now showing in all cinema's. Doh!

[size=14pt]"I will continue to show openly and inside me the total commitment to the Sharia movement that is sweeping all over Nigeria," Buhari said, quoted in press reports.

"God willing, we will not stop the agitation for the total implementation of the Sharia in the country,"[/size]

- Gen. Buhari

Revealing a chilling prophetic vision, Bakare said: "Neither [size=14pt]Buhari [/size] nor IBB nor Obasanjo nor Atiku will be part of the new Nigeria. They are part of the old that has decayed and is still decaying. The new is coming forth. It is the counsel of the Lord that shall stand in this nation. [size=14pt]Until the sons of turmoil destroy themselves, this nation will not know peace[/size]."

- "Pastor" Tunde Bakare

Latest film:
[size=14pt]The coming Together of the Sons of Turmoil[/size]
Now showing in all cinema's. Doh!

[size=14pt]"I will continue to show openly and inside me the total commitment to the Sharia movement that is sweeping all over Nigeria," Buhari said, quoted in press reports.

"God willing, we will not stop the agitation for the total implementation of the Sharia in the country,"[/size]

- Gen. Buhari

Revealing a chilling prophetic vision, Bakare said: "Neither [size=14pt]Buhari [/size] nor IBB nor Obasanjo nor Atiku will be part of the new Nigeria. They are part of the old that has decayed and is still decaying. The new is coming forth. It is the counsel of the Lord that shall stand in this nation. [size=14pt]Until the sons of turmoil destroy themselves, this nation will not know peace[/size]."

- "Pastor" Tunde Bakare

. . .Smoking!!!!!!

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=596331.msg7657315#msg7657315 date=1296698167]Beaf wouldnt stoop to that level [/quote]Thank you pretty Ileke, may your beauty continue to increase, may it dazzle and blind these ugly frogs and monsters without brains. May you be sought after by well built, handsome and intelligent princes.
Don’t mind these ridiculously shallow types that are now swarming on NL and making weird claims, cos they are running on empty, decimated by intellectual left hooks and logical uppercuts, astonished by the footwork of the meisters, mentally paralised by truth and sincerity.

@topic
Its a big shame that thugs, primitives, fools and various shades of Neanderthal are attempting (and failing) to stop intelligent discussion on NL. Their heaviest weapon is Atiku style frontal stupidity, but we know how to deal that. My guy, GEJ calls their type "wrestlers" and he is right; I'll go a step further than the President and call them mere hunters, rewires, and red eyed agbero's that cannot tell that the sun has set forever on they and their perennial never ending stream of unparalleled  foolishness.
Hunters, stop being cowards and actually attempt to meet logic with logic and truth with truth. Why do always dodge and attempt to derail topics na? Abi na only garri de una head? Nigeria doesn’t need such, its time for the brainy ones. All kpanda, please walk into the nearest bin.

FOOLS

www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6

“The group had, at the end of its meeting last week, rejected the candidature of Jonathan. But Mohammed, the ACF chairman, General I. B. M Haruna (rtd) and the vice chairman of its BoT, Ambassador Abdullahi Ladan Shuni, have since denounced the communiqué, saying it was not the true reflection of what transpired at the said meeting, with Mohammed being the first to blow the whistle,” the source said.

The cabal is made of sore losers who should be in prison. Nigeria has woken up and left them and their bigotry behind.

Atiku People = Foolish People

igbo boy:
I guess it sucks being Igbo and yoruba in terms of this zoning thing cos for these two groups people look at their ethnicity rather than regional polity, for instance if Saraki came right after Obj and says oh I am from the North its our turn, the whole Nigeria will be like dude eff that poo yorubas have had their turn,

Samething assuming we had president from the SE and an igbo guy from the SS wants to run, nigerians we once again say NNa men have had their turn even though they represent different regions, Na wa

Thanks, you've just laid out the poverty stricken nature of ethnically, religiously or sectionally based politics that primitive ideas like zoning are based on.
The whole North - South rotation /zoning argument is stone age and really holding us back from developing; lets bury it and uphold merit.

lastpage:
I am sure NO ONE CAN EVER COME OUT AND TELL ME THAT GEJ IS "FLAWLESS"!
We are all humans, even Bakare has flaws, much les GEJ, a "poli-trick-cian!"

Bu the GEJ l know, is a Politician and the Bakare l know is a Prophet/Man-of-God!
Certainly, l will not hold both of them to the same standard after all we know "what" Politicians are like!

That being said, the real issue is whether Bakare should fall into this snare of a V.P position?

I am beginning to think GEJ is God to Bakare followers, otherwise why can't they simply address the mans incredible short comings without dragging in poor GEJ?
Did GEJ make a damning false "prophesy" about the "sons of turmoil" only to swallow his vomit and team up the the "tall one" that nust be destroyed before Nigeria can progress?

Hidiots! Make una hanswer di question!

[size=14pt]Nigerian president sees oil reforms before May[/size]
Wed Feb 2, 2011 5:14pm GMT

(Reuters) - Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan said on Wednesday he expects wide-ranging reforms to the mainstay oil and gas industry to be passed into law before the end of the current parliament in May.
Speaking during a visit to Turkey, Jonathan said the move would "give fresh impetus to the federal government's efforts to further liberalise Nigeria's oil sector and attract greater foreign investment", according to a statement from his office.

The Petroleum Industry Bill (PIB), long delayed by constant revisions, will re-write Nigeria's decades-old relationship with foreign oil partners, including firms such as Royal Dutch Shell, Exxon Mobil and Chevron.

The proposed legislation will alter everything from the fiscal framework for offshore oil projects to the involvement of indigenous firms in the sector.

Uncertainty over the plans -- which could significantly increase the cost of operating in Africa's biggest oil exporter -- have put billions of dollars of potential investment on hold, according to industry executives.

The bill has been before parliament for months and with April presidential, parliamentary and state governorship elections fast approaching and political minds elsewhere, many observers had expected it not to pass under the current administration.

http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE7110G720110202

afam4eva:
You're really not making any sense here. You said zoning should be done with. That instead those who merit it should be picked. That's why i asked a simple question that needs a simpler answer. How did GEJ merit been the PDP candidate. What has he done to deserve it. Just answer the question and stop beating around the bush.

Quit playing the fool, cos you are really looking the part.

[quote author=21-05-2011 link=topic=597321.msg7654756#msg7654756 date=1296666969]@beaf
first am not a bruv 
that said pls can you tell us how we can manage to quash this zoning madness and change the mindset of  150million people that have been for the most part brainwashed (or hands tied)into thinking the zoning system is the only way the presidency in Nigeria can work?
I need the 1st step
kindly elaborate further[/quote]My apologies. Sis?

The only way to kill any yearning for zoning is to eliminate the influence of ethnicity from govt. We can have a system where each etnic group is equally represented at the federal level regardless of size. This will ensure that no actions can be ethnically or regionally biased.
I've suggested elsewhere that the easiest way to achieve that goal is by having an equal number of senator per ethnic group (one each would be reasonable); the house of rep can be left based on population. The purpose would be to ensure that by the time a bill gets to the senate, it would require several ethnicities to agree.

Any such radical step would require fundamental constitutional change. I propose we begin to consider the above as part of a true federalism package.

[quote author=21-05-2011 link=topic=597321.msg7654529#msg7654529 date=1296665364]in a perfect world
an aspirant and his vp can be from the same tribe and there could be a possibility of winning assuming each merit it

but this is Nigeria,nothing is black and white in Nigeria
whether we like it or not ,your tribe goes a long way in determining your success in a case like this

this is sad but this is the reality we face in Nigeria today
Thanks to the zoning method and so much foolishness in the past[/quote]I strongly disagree. We need to stop viewing Nigeria as something of a wild place where it is impossible for things that are normal in other places to make sense. We need to push to make things work.

A lot of the time, you hear people say corruption is the bane of Nigeria, but if we pause for thought, ethnic and religious bigotries beat corruption hands down. They are the real elephants in the room. There is ethnic jingoism and nepotism at the national level, which in turn causes despondency and desperation that drives corruption at street level.

I understand fully that ethnic bigotry and religious divisions cannot wished away with a simple wave of the hand. No, we must wrap it into a framework that defines us as Nigerian and gives us a common philosophy for existing, a common philosophy that binds us and results in a natural expression of patriotism (much like the US), a system that encourages self realisation and promotes merit. Right now, Nigerians have nothing to believe in, there is a chasm where our patriotism should be.

The framework that can deliver these things, is true federalism. Lets strive for that and the impossible would become possible.
Its in our hands bruv.

afam4eva:
You learn to be intelligent and tell Nigerian why you keep kissing GEJ's backside.

Let me summarise things for you so you know how stupeedly you come across:

Person 1 - Buhari chose a fellow Northerner as running mate
Beaf - Nah, you shouldn't be thinking about ethnicity
Person 1 - Why? We shouldn't have two Northerners running on the same ticket
Beaf - We should consider only merit and not a persons ethnicity or region, so its ok for Buhari to have another Northerner
FOOL - Really? Tell me why GEJ merits being President?

Dense. How does the fools question fit into any argument on the page, it makes you sound daft.

afam4eva:
Merit indeed. Now ttell how GEJ merits been the president of Nigeria. What are his antecedents.

Check what I wrote here, it applies to you; https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-597321.0.html#msg7654132
Learn to be intelligent.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=585949.msg7652907#msg7652907 date=1296651259]As it is now becoming customary, you are being disingenious. Constitution is basically the system of fundamental principles according to which a nation, state, corporation, or the like, is governed. In this case, Buhari is refering to the guiding principles for him and his fellow believers, he is obviously not referring to the Nigerian constitution. Olodo.[/quote]There is no definition of the word (except the one you made up in your village) where a religious book is referred to as a constitution. Religious books hold dogma's.

^
The more you post in extra-size font, the more people conclude you are a sentimental fool.

kingbobbyj:
The problem with johndoe, ujujoan, beaf and others like them is that they are scared of change, for the 1st time since 2003 d Buhari/Bakare ticket looks very capable of disposing d PDP and they're all looking for excuses to deny it, For the 1st time buhari has made a good political move, guys get ready 2011 change is coming!!, hopefully nigerians wont b scared to make d change.

This is daft. What do you mean by "change?" Has Buhari laid out his plans? If not, where are you getting your so-called change from? Some of you just mouth things foolishly without actually understanding what you are saying. Is change an empty word?

Dude, please refrain from mentioning my name when you inflict NL with your next dose of idiocy.

afam4eva:
It is Beaf. He's speaking good of the combo because he doesn't support rotation which is the reason why GEJ his lord was able to grab the PDP ticket.

I support merit. Period.
I don't give a damn where it comes from or who the talented person is. If Buhari feels a person from Sokoto is best as his running mate, thats fine; let Nigerians judge by their qualities; not where they come from.

Muza:
  Beaf cudnt have written this,i bet his account was hacked

No, you wrote it! As dull and stupeed as you are.

People like you are not driven by any philosophy or ideology, you sort of ramble along driven by primitive ethnic, sectional and religious bigotries. Because of these things, you judge others from blindness and totally miss the point.
Even fools know that I have always been anti-zoning and very strongly pro-merit. Those things key into my deeper ideology and vision; an empty vessel like you would never begin to appreciate where I'm coming from, cos your thoughts are disorganised, incoherent and scattered. You are incapable of articulating a position aside from the occasional primitive grunt triggered by a name from your ethnic group, section or religion.

Dude, times are changing; you need to hinge your beliefs around a tested philosophy so you aren't condemned to skulking around and making snide remarks at those who can articulate positions in ways you can only dream off. But it’s not magic, all you need do is develop a philosophical view of Nigeria based on a tested ideology, until that day, your positions will continue to be partially evolved and of trash quality. Critical thinking is an art to be acquired.

I know the average Nigerian doesn't have a low IQ, but on NL, one is pained at the poverty of intellect of some supposedly educated posters like yourself who can only go around pointing instinctively like they belong in a pack of monkeys.

Dunce.

lionness:
This Beaf character is such a child.
We are talking about substance, hes after shadows.
You keep quoting Buhari, hasnt GEJ made more silly and inept statements?
Is he the spokesperson for MEND defending after the independent day blast?

Give us reasons why GEJ is better than Buhari?
List his achievements and stop beating about the bust.

It is obvious you have no ideology so you float in the wind and have no counter arguments. You go around re-registering on NL just say foolish things; anyways, congrats on reaching only 12 posts, yet having indepth knowledge of Beaf; you fool only yourself!

If you no get argument, di best tin na to shut up. Nigeria couldn't have a worse curse than the pairing of two zealots (even if one na false prophet).

monkeyleg:
Beaf,

You no see yourself. You to like woman.

See I will introduce you to Mercy if you promise to tell your Oga the truth, Deal?

First introduce me to Mercy and great things shall follow.
. . .But she don marry, so leave dat side.

monkeyleg:
@Beaf,

You no dey tire?

Hope Goodluck is paying you well, cos as a fellow Warri man, I no happy with all the insult wey you dey receive for all your blind deceitful support.

The insult always comes from fools like yourself wen no get brain, so no biggies. Lolz

aguiyi:
only a fool will break a door that somebody has accepted to open

Don't mind the donkey, he just seems to have a one track mind that isn't smart enough to understand an argument.

monkeyleg:
I was as well, and prepared to give him a chance, but I was also weary of the cunning things our leaders get up to.

I find it laughable that Goodlucks Nairaland love-peddler sees, Pastor Bakares comments taken 5yrs ago more important than the here and now of Goodlucks lack of empathy for those who have suffered indescribale wickedness.

Beaf, I am not starting another thread, in my opinion it is not necessary. Before you oepn your mouth to start speaking nonsense about others, answer the critical questions that follow your master like a bad smell.

I understand that this is your job, and you are being paid handsomely, but please tell your master the truth, you owe him that, not this senseless crusade

Dude, why not own up that you're scared to start another thread, cos you know I will floor you with a wicked knock out combination?
Thats why you've been trying to derail this thread. Old papa behaving like pikin.

You might love false prophets like Bakare, but others find them decietful and dishonest. I wanna find out what happened to the pastor between 2006 and now, abi prophesy de expire?

ayubam:
OLODO RABATA [/b],

I guess your sons name is Olodo and your own name is Rabata? So you must be calling your pikin.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6

See the person that was talking Christianity just now. E be like say false prophets done full everywhere.

blacksta:
Wow

I am shocked - Mr Anti Buhuari ( Buhari is planning on sharia - ing the whole of Nigeria)




- What happened bEAF- for the first time in a while you post a non biased comment


Looks like GEJ has finally realised that you and your irks were doing a bad job on NL thus fired u lot or did u hit your head on a concrete wall.

Fool.

opuro:
so nna you no fit tell us any reason why we must vote jona?
nna i weak o
insult me if you like that is all you got

Are you too cowardly to start a thread? I challenge you to do that and I'll be there to demolish and logically scramble you. Deal?
This thread is about the unfortunate Buhari/Bakare combination and you can't derail it.

^
Dude, religion and fake pastors like Bakare are a bigger problem than corruption, because they are corruption itself. Dig?
Burst a gasket if you like, but the truth sir, is a bitter thing.

As for house of rep and senate members, federal largesse under Buhari will determine how they vote to impeach Bakare, if he becomes troublesome. Don't forget the man has no political constituency to call on.

I've forgoten. Who is Ribadu again? Lolz!