₦airaland Forum

Genbuhari3:
I am chasing beaf every where! and thank God I found him on this thread. this guy is so deep in hatred of Buhari that even if the man confesses he is a christian, beaf and co will doubt him. Guys your islamist propaganda as elapsed. eyes of Nigerians are open to this faleshood you have tried to kill this noble man of noble means. The man even said you should bring out a man dead or alive that he has descriminated with based on faith, and none of you have been able to.

and this is what he said yesterday:

''They should continue to tell lies about me just as I will continue to tell the truths about them''

This is the wisest statement i have heard this year. your guys are the bigots, not him. it takes a lot of liberalism to appoint a pentecostal pastor as a running mate, someone that is not even in his political party.

Stop being a sentimental fool and make some sense. Buhari is the one who said he wishes to institutute sharia across Nigeria, not Beaf. Deal with it.

voros:
You are too obnoxious for my liking, I wonder why you haven't been banned

Hmmmm! Very "intellectual" input to the thread! Wow!

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Did you read the article? The man is before a court of law facing the legal ramifications of his actions.
The governor never locked him up.

Mukhtari Ibrahim Aminu, the man arrested and arraigned before a Magistrate Court in Dutse for allegedly insulting Governor Sule Lamido of Jigawa State on Facebook has been remanded in prison till February, 7, 2011.

blacksta:
So GEJ get balls - U finally get your 10000 army - Lets watch and see how many people these 10,000 army murder in cold blood in the next coming days. I hope they are different from the norm sha.

Enough is Enough.

You will continue to play the part of an unwitting Ciroma poodle by asking such daft questions. Where is the Atiku campaign that was hinged on; "Jonathan is a weak, clueless, coward?" They've been very efficiently and quietly parceled into the bin by the man they described with such words; a thorough disgrace really.

Was there any announcement or fanfare before the new troops arrived? Dude, even the STF commander doesn't know who they are. Everything GEJ does is silent and effective, so keep decieving yourself. No one else is fooled.

violent:
This flagrant display of powers and abuse of office should be condemned in any society that has solid plans for growth on a forward looking basis. Conviction of the guy in question will make a total comic of our democracy, why should we claim to have rights to freedom of speech if a governor of a state can decide to use the powers of his office to prevent such?

Everyone has a right to his or her own opinion, and as long as the contents of the message is not a classified "hate message" then all authorities in question are merely dancing to the tune of the power drunk governor at the expense of democracy. If everyone who insults a governor or president ought to be arrested, half of the USA should be in Guantanamo by now.

Should we now live in a society where we all become dundees, lest the governor feels insulted?

and what more? i question why the guy was arrested and detained in this case, the governor, if he feels insulted ought to sue the dude, not get him arrested, this is just plain barbaric, you don't deny an individual his freedom of movement simply because you feel what he said is insulting, this is not the 1800s!

What do you mean freedom of speech? Slander is and has always been a crime, why should it be different because it was done on the web? Same goes with making threats and similar. Nigerians in particular do not seem to realise that the law is just as powerful on the web as it is on the streets. This should be an effective eye opener, in fact there should be many more jailings as happens in Western countries.

By the way, Sule Lamido is right up there with Fashola as an effective governor who has worked miracles.

No longer will soldiers join in the Jos massacres and burnings of women and little babies! It is a thing to be happy about!
Now we need to send those STF fvkers to Ivory Coast, let them go fight real wars, not wars against little babies.

Its called Operation Rainbow. Its the kernel of a 10,000 man non-partisan army that will be very high tech, disciplined, law abiding and professional.
The army is being carried along in the new Nigeria that is being born.

[size=14pt]Fresh Air 2011![/size]

Sky Blue:
Yes Nigeria should not be in the OIC and it is something that should be addressed, but I am yet to see how membership of the OIC (when compared to reckless leadership and corrupt governance) has seriously stifled our development. Is it membership of the OIC that has perpetuauted corruption and bad leadership in the country? Does membership of the OIC force governors and ministers to steal and ignore developmental projects? We shouldn't be in the OIC I agree, but it would be quite laughable to even attempt attributing our personal shortcoming to membership of the OIC. So you would potentially overlook all "religous" tickets (whatever that means) for candidates that could represent more of the same even if the aspirants on these so called "religous" tickets could potentially bring more order to government, tackle serious national issues and hence bring development on a national scale?

Nigeria is bogged down by mediocrity, but we were once a country with beautiful prospects and brimming talent.
Mediocrity comes in little steps (its the little steps that kill), the OIC was one, military rule was another, religion and luck in politics is yet another. Nigeria (alongside Malaysia and Singapore) was once projected to be a leading country, but while the other two have fulfilled that projection. Nigeria is still a developmental sandpit.

Accepting a religious ticket is a step toward the abyss we cannot afford. What it really says, is that we are willing to play dice with the future in a panic induced by despondency; but what we really need is a plan and a cool head. All Buhari ever talks about is corruption, but corruption is not at the root of Nigeria's problems, what we need to adress is what causes Nigeria to be fertile ground for corruption. Buhari has never spoken in that light, perhaps he is leaning only on religion and is not a deep thinker.

[size=14pt]Nigeria: April Polls - Northern Leaders Rally Behind Buhari[/size]
Augustine Madu-West
22 January 2011

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Kano — Sentiments being expressed by Northern leaders from the core Hausa-Fulani communities in the North West region indicate that the Congress for Progressive Change (CPC) presidential candidate, Muhammadu Buhari, is now the new bride in that part of the country.

This may be due to the fact that former Vice President Atiku Abubakar lost the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP)'s presidential primaries to incumbent President Goodluck Jonathan.

[size=14pt]Investigations conducted by Sunday Independent shows that most of the Northern leaders and supporters of Atiku have now pitched their tent with the General's group and have already embarked on a massive campaign to drum up support for him, regarding the April polls[/size].

At the last count, there are no fewer that three known presidential candidates from the North: Buhari of CPC, Ibrahim Shekarau of the All Nigeria Peoples Party (ANPP) and Nuhu Ribadu of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN).

We learnt that of all the three candidates for the presidency, Buhari is most favoured, largely because of his experience and age. Besides, he is considered a veteran of the presidential race, having contested twice (2003 and 2007) on the platform of the ANPP. His pedigree as the former Head of State and Minister are all considered as an advantage.

The North is still groaning over Atiku's defeat, and some of the leaders of the region have expressed their disappointment openly. [size=14pt]"We have said it before that there is no way the North will accept a Southerner as president beyond 2011, because we still insist that going by PDP's zoning formula, the presidency of 2011 remains their (North) legitimate claim," said Second Republic governor of Old Kaduna State, Lawal Kaita.[/size]

He told our correspondent that since the North has been robbed of their chance by the PDP leadership, "we are now ready to queue behind the General and work towards his success in the April polls".

Another influential Northerner who expressed the same belief is Second Republic Senate president, Abubakar Dan Musa from Katsina, the General's home state.

"General Buhari is a man of integrity who has demonstrated his leadership qualities when he was at the helm of affairs in the country. During his tenure, the country witnessed economic prosperity and above all a peaceful atmosphere that promoted commerce and internal development."

http://allafrica.com/stories/printable/201101240885.html

Sky Blue:
I agree that the whole sharia thing is something Buhari really needs to be pressed on and questioned on because the last time I know off where he was asked the question he didn't answer directly. However most of (if not all) the core northern states have already adopted sharia (very unfortunately in my opinion) and I don't really see how it can be 'forced' unto the south that is dominantly christian, at least not in the way some people portray it. Last time Buhari was in power he did allow his vice play a very important role in government and he was given a relatively free rein to act. Yes Buhari probably needs to be pressed on certain issues (as I would rather have a sharia free Nigeria that is not a member of the IOC in future), but I think some people are just being a bit too alarmist. We are not in a military dictatorship anymore and there is a legislature and a judiciary.

Buhari has been repeatedly pressed on the sharia issue (if he intends to propagate it across the entire Nigeria) and he has repeatedly dodged the question.
Nigeria is a secular country, but is already listed among Islamic nations due to our being smuggled into the Organisation of Islamic Conference by IBB. We need to sidestep all religious tickets as a matter of national survival.

There might be a legislature in the country, but it will start with sharia states being more overt, and then increased pressure from the almighty presidency and before you know it, there will be sharia in Abuja and its sorrounding areas.

kcjazz:
It's not bragging if you can back it up~Muhammad Ali

The anonymity of the web makes people lose all sense of manners. And even if you feel you need to make your point, know your rights for free speech and have a lawyer. I doubt this person has any.

Some people are really daft and don't realise that the exact same laws they are subject to on the streets govern the web as well. A Nigerian that supports child marriages or sodomy on the net can be jailed. If anyone threatens another on the web, the victim can seek legal action.

Many have been jailed, because they foolishly believe they can't be traced. People, except you are a clued up hacker, you can be traced very easily (sometimes to whithin a few metres of where you stand or to your exact street number). Information Technology is a frightful thing if you know how things work.

13volts:
jang should not shed any tears he should resign ASAP

Jang will not resign, neither will there ever be a state of emergency in Plateau. You guys dream on, the days of baby killers are numbered.

Genbuhari3:
Buhari built all the refineries in this country as the minister of petroleum, he built roads that PDP has not been able to do in 12 yrs, buhari did this with PTF in four years, school rehabilitations, PTF drugs, notebooks.

I am in Nigeria, never lived outside this country except on vacations. Bakare is a lawyer and pastoring is his vocation. A man formed in the chambers of Gani Fawehinmi and Rotimi William. EFCC can go after him as it has done with Pastor Chris or as UK authorities went after Ashimolowo. the records are clean my friend. he is the erudite voice buhari needs, my friend.

And may I challenge you if you can match the number of streets protests Bakare has participated in since the days of IBB. Arm chair critic, am sure you have never!

Sharrrrrrraaap dia!
I was among youthful protesters that stopped a column of tanks from Ikeja cantoment, after we had blocked Ikorodu road during anti-IBB protests. Many of us were much younger than you are; we fully understand the political calculus of Nigeria.

All you can do is rifle out what you think are achievements by rote. Buhari DID NOT build a single refinery.

What is he going to preach now in Latter Rain? That it is ok to be Muslim after he has spent decades calling them devils? Yes, I have been in his church.
There is simply no place for Pastors in politics.

Genbuhari3:
Johndoe,

well done, ooo. we know you are a PDP apologist! ethnicity is not a factor and buhari has never supported zoning and he has proved it by naming a credible south westerner. you are the one living in dreams because even the PDP is scared already. watch the space oga, you will see a revolution blow up in your eyes. from last night when the news broke to this morning, 10 votes commited already to this cause, and God knows how many are counting out there. The fools are thinking better now

leave it to a free and fair election, if your niger delta clueless, corrupt man called gej wins, fine with it.

And Buhari will break up Nigeria, because the army is Northern, Muslim. Dumb argument. Nigeria is too complicated to be broken up my friend.

Stop being dense. Bakare is just a cheap sellout. Buhari thoroughly represents everything Nigeria is fighting to overthrow, especially zoning. If you don't know that the single biggest cog in the wheels of the nations progress is the core North (or conservative North), then you are a non-starter:

[size=14pt]Core North endorses Buhari[/size]        
Written by NICK UWERU    
Tuesday, 25 January 2011 22:30  

Indications are rife that conservative bloc in the core North is backing the presidential candidate of the Congress for Progressive Change (CPC), Gen. Muhammadu Buhari for the presidency despite the stance of some elite and young elements in the region demanding that he concedes the slot to the candidate of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN), Mallam Nuhu Ribadu.
Investigation by the paper showed that those supporting Buhari are mainly from the North-West and North-East geo-political zones where former Vice-President Atiku Abubakar performed relatively well in the recent presidential primaries of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP).
Buhari’s CPC is also seen as strong in those areas.
The choice of the former Head of State had been left as an option by the Northern elements canvassing the retention of the zoning arrangement of the PDP in the buildup to the presidential primaries of the party.
An associate of Buhari, Buba Galadima, had in a recent interview said that with the failure of the consensus candidacy project, the former leader remained a favourite of the North.
Recently, Wikkileaks, an online whistle blower, mentioned Buhari’s popularity in the region even when the late President Umaru Yar’Adua was alive.
In the recent expose on the ailment of Yar’Adua, the website said that more of the Northern elite had saw Buhari as the only choice of the North to regain the presidency.
Alarmed at Yar’Adua’s constant trip abroad for medical attention, the North had reportedly approached Yar’Adua, while alive to finish off a single tenure and allow the region to produce a candidate of its choice.
Yar’Adua became incensed at this and asked the emissaries to leave his office.
He told them that his presidency was a Nigerian mandate and not a regional one.
The late president also warned that the region would lose if he was not allowed to contest a second term.
It was after the altercation that the core North began considering the choice of Buhari.
However, it was gathered that some elements in the movement trying to work with Buhari are still nursing some fears about his choice.
“Some traditional rulers in the North still consider him inflexible,” said a PDP chieftain who is close to the inner circle of the North’s traditional structure.
He explained that Buhari’s record as a former ruler showed that he is one who never bends after taking a decision.
“This is a democracy not a military rule,” he said.
News Star tried to get IBM Ibrahim, a retired general and Chairman of Arewa Consultative Forum (ACF) to comment on the development, but could not reach him.
But another member of the Northern body who commented on the matter but asked not to be mentioned because the matter has not been referred to them, said, “Our position as ACF is clear. The president of Nigeria must emerge through a democratic process it must follow the rule of law and party guidelines. Anything other than this is not acceptable,” the source said.

http://www.newsstarng.com/index.php/news/6389-core-north-endorses-buhari

What strikes me as odd, is why he chose to be Buhari's Vice Presidential aspirant.
Does he represent second best?

After all the noises he has made, you would expect him to vie for presidency directly, and not settle a mere running mate, powerless in the scheme of things.

The questions really has to be asked about how genuine he is and how he has accepted second fiddle whereas his preaching all these years says he and his flock must be the first, not the last. So, what has really happened?

johndoe200:
The problem with fantasists is that they live in a dream world. Let me bring you down to earth.

1. Only fool would vote for Buhari, as he will most likely over see the breakup of Nigeria. Why? His victory will signal to the Niger Delta that they mean nothing, if you think the Jos crises etc are a problem, wait till the delta boils again.

2. Buhari will lead a lame duck government. The Senate and House of Reps will be populated by PDP, he will either be impeached or rendered useless. on the instructions of the GOVERNORS who will be majority PDP.

3. Only in cyberspace is ethnicity not a factor, ANOTHER YORUBA MAN? When SS and SE can't get there? Dream on.

Word! Most people fail to see Nigeria either through the eyes of others or through the realities on the ground.
What will be interesting to witness would be how Buhari/Bakare mobilise in the places that matter, motorpacks, markets and streets. Rich pipul no de vote!
I cannot see these guys mobilising a house fly, Buhari has following among religious fanatics up North; but, there are nearly none down South.

soldee:
Buhari/Bakare will take NE, NW, SW in aclean sweep

GEJ/Sambo will take SS, SE easily

NC is dicey. Kwara, Niger and Kaduna will vote Buhari, Benue and Kogi will vote GEJ. Plateau can go anyway

Bakare has no political legs in the SW (apart from some Latter Rain peeps), so forget about Buhari doing anything in the SW, that field is gonna be a battle between GEJ and Tinubu's boys. Kwara and Kaduna (Sambo's home state) along with the Middle Belt and some North Eastern states like Bornu, Bauchi, Jigawa will go GEJ's way.

Buhari will win in 4 or 5 core Northern states and that will be it.

jacoby70ng:
I totally agree with him, carrying out their social responsibility. Just worried on the cost to the nation. this is why Americans are proud of their country. Right one

Yes, the US will go any length to save a citizen, even if it means leaving the Solar System. The citizens see that and respond in kind; that is why the US is great. What GEJ has done is commendable.

SapeleGuy:
Mercy Johnson. She will capture a lot of voters in both the north and south.

Bros, I will rig elections for Mercy Johnson! I will steal DDC machines and make Jega confess!

[quote author=Akanbi_edu link=topic=595685.msg7640629#msg7640629 date=1296490529]Am I supposed to be impressed with the bolded part? I never doubted his brilliance and the credentials blah blah I am merely doubting his character - those are not the same. The way he was dribbling up and down at the senate when faced with that common crook Omisore is an example.[/quote]No one is asking you to be impressed that Aganga has spent practically his entire professional life in the UK; in zeroing in on that, you missed the whole point, which is that he is in a different culture from the one he is accustomed to and is like a fish out of water.
The senate confrontation only served to illusterate that further where people like Aganga would be found exchanging words or raising their voices over their dead bodies.

I'm not taking Aganga's side in this, just pointing something that might make him react in ways that are strange to the rest of us and which we might percieve in negative ways.

naijaking1:
Are you for real?
For a fire-spitting-reactionary-reply-ready personality, you know better than to say Soludo shouldn't have replied when lies are been heaped upon him and his record

Chineke me e!!
Life on NL is much different from life in the real World where I am the most introverted dude you'll ever see. Which kain fire-spitting?

In politics, one has to be calm and calculating in order to win all the time. Soludo needs to add calm to his arsenal, it doesn't tell well when he fires off such "let us fight" articles.

ladi02:
I think he chose Beaf!

Yes o! We will decamp to GEJ at the very last moment.

Abagworo:
@beaf.You sound so much like a motor park tout.Always try to use logic in arguments and not unnecessary aggression.

The major characteristics of a weakling is indecision.Your Oga is from ND and knows the problems,why can't he just correct it or at least initiate a process towards that?He is actually my blood relative(surprised?).If I were him I would weaken the central Government and quit contesting this election.The key to survival of Nigeria is true federalism.

. . .But how can one use logic in discussion with a fool? Don't bandy around concepts you can only just about spell.

So to you a weak central govt = true federalism? That simplistic? Dude, thats bloody daft. What is even more daft is to think any President can do it by fiat. On second thoughts, daft is too light a word; lets settle for foolish, stupeed or cretinous.

violent:
seriously?

proflynks1:
Really??

Nah, I was just kidding!

GEJ will win in Ribadu's village, sad but true. The man is only known in Lagos.
As for Buhari, its gonna be total defeat for the last standing religious bigot and sharia evangelist.

I predict that Nigeria will pull out of the Organisation of Islamic Conference and other religious groupings by 2013, because we are not an Islamic nation. Nigeria is secular and must remain so.

Tinubu.

jason123:
This is how GEJ and Clark plans to win rig the election, abi? By stealing DDc machines . . . . . Yet, some people would still vote for him. SMH . NIGERIANNNNS!!!! What do you really want and be honest with yourselves??

Whats GEJ's business with Clark? Abeg free GEJ.

fstranger1:
May be he was repairing it, who knows?

Why do people jump to conclusions like that?

Damn!

misterh:
I wish the government will find a lasting solution to the crises that have plagued the Plateau.

The bomb was found in Bauchi state, not Plateau. The crisis is political and people are intent on spreading it.

Thank God! At last our security folk are learning. Their actions would have saved quite a few lives.

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He shouldn't have replied. I've always been a Soludo fan as far as economics is concerned, but when it comes to politics he seems to cut the figure of a short tempered person, which isn't very good.

[quote author=Akanbi_edu link=topic=595685.msg7640379#msg7640379 date=1296488263]Both Soludo and Aganga lacked character even though brilliant. Aganga is even worse because we don't know what he stands for.[/quote]You are being very unfair to Aganga. He spent his professional life in the UK where the stiff upper lip is admired and you only hear from finacial bosses when the beans is burnt, but in Nigeria, he is expected to be vocal and boisterous. The man is very brilliant and good for Nigeria, but like a fish out of water.