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MAMAJAMA= lack of brain as usual.

I remember rejecting an offer from wldbk few years ago. I was going to be relocated to Brazil for couple of years; apart from my living accommodation and bonus, they offered to pay me the same salary.

Now, how do you explain that?

My point: it is up to the companies and the individual (expatriate), some companies will pay expatriate more and some will not.
I say, don't appraise your capability by only looking at what an expatriate is making; focus on yourself and your skill, get all you can get during salary negotiation before coming on-board.

Wow, this is great!
I admire the maturity level of you guys, this is what nairaland suppose to be all about; sharing and learning.

Bravo to texazzpete, mellow, Funloving, JustGood and others.

I'm learning and I'm loving it.

One love!

(I hope MAMAJAMA will not get to discover this topic).

Amusing!

One could easily tell that you guys have spent just too much time holding beer parlor discussion (absolutely unjustifiable assumption).
FYI: The report of the chief of defence staff was based on speculation rather than fact.

Like I've said, it is very important for one to fully understand what really went down and the military protocol.

God knows best.
May Vasta's soul rest in peace.

Afam: you still need to apologize for the despicable statement you made few weeks ago.

the question here is surposed to be if vasta actually planned a coup. if the answer is yes, then we have to ask ourselves what is the punishment for a failed coup attempt in the military of which vasta was a part.
if there is another important question, it shld be, what will vasta do if he was in ibb's position?
who is here to tell me that if vasta in the process of looking for power sees a way to eliminate ibb, he will spare him.
we will not die for sympathy especially when a coup is a desperate act and vasta himself knew the thread he wanted to start.
in coup, lives and properties are lost so anyone who has the mind to plan a coup have decided on all the possibilities and been a good poet would not have been any reason to spare a man with a gun wanting to kill others.

Good point!

It is very important for one to purely understand the military protocol before jumping into this discussion.
There are many unanswered questions; and folks have already decided to come to a conclusion with very little information, just because of their despisedness of IBB.
Folks, simmer down, forget IBB for the moment and let's go a little deeper into understanding the meaning of a "COUP"

What is a "COUP"?
1. A brave or reckless deed performed in battle by a single warrior, as touching or striking an enemy warrior without sustaining injury oneself.

2. A sudden and decisive change of government illegally or by force.

3. A feat of bravery performed in battle, especially the touching of an enemy's body without causing injury.

4. To depose, as from a position of power; overcome, defeat, or vanquish.

5. To knock down and demolish or to put an end to by force, as a government or institution.

My questions are:
1. What are the military repercussions for a coup involvement?
2. Was Vasta ever involved?

FYI: Keep in mind that as a military top officer once you know about an actuality of a coup and you do not inform the head of state (your boss), it means you're directly involved (i.e you do not have to be the architect of the coup to be involved).

@texazzpete:

Well, what can I say? You've opened my eyes and I have absolutely nothing else to say about this issue.
Your post is uncluttered, very clear and extremely enlightening.

Bravo and thanks for your intellectual insight on this matter.

a white man won't earn more if he's not worth it!

Another problem here is the fact that most of these white men being brought to Nigeria are nobody in their contries; but to Nigerian employers, these folks are the best.

Totally Inferiority Complex and Slavery Mentality.

Nobody will respect you if you don't respect yourselves.

Every company is in business to make money

Solid point!

But according to the topic,

You have two men doing exactly the same job in the same office or field location. Absolutely the same working conditions, same output. One is an expatriate the other, a Nigerian.

If companies are in business to make money, does it make sense for them to even bring an European man to Nigeria to do the same job a Nigerian can do for less money?

Absolutely NO

It is what it is; We are still suffering from:
1. Inferiority Complex

2. Confidentiality Issues and

3. Slavery Mentality

And I hope it wouldn't take too long to start embracing one another and appreciate our value as Nigerians.

Americans will die first before paying foreigners more than their own people. This is how we should be thinking.
We should be proud of who we are or else outsiders will continue to step all over Nigerians in Nigeria.

The question now is: is there any corruption prevention strategies in place?

For many months now, I continue to preach to these incompetent individuals that prevention is absolutely better and cheaper than cure; especially when the process to cure corruption is fake.

I think it's time to focus on the long term success; special attention should be concentrated on the newly elected governors; or else the history will continue to repeat itself over and over.
If you truly care about the future of our nation, please show your patriotism by challenging this new administration to spend more on implementing a solid corruption prevention program or process; rather than wasting our money and time fighting OBJ's antagonists.

This whole issue smacks of jealousy and reverse racism

Absolutely incorrect; you got it wrong, my man.

The problem here is one of the three:

1. Inferiority Complex

2. Confidentiality Concern

3. Slavery Mentality

Wait till it happens directly to you and you will quickly understand why I've selected the 3 factors.

HELLOOOOOOOOO

There is nobody calling ALAM a saint or asking for ALAM not to be dealt with.

All we are asking for, is to do what is right and do it accordingly; and this is the only way Nigeria as a nation can move forward.
What we currently have in Nigeria today is absolutely "not fighting corruption, but fighting OBJ's enemies".

Sit down and think about it.

These kids deserve nothing but the best.


Bravo, Bravo and Bravo!

@topic:
Check out this link, answers to some of your questions are here:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-56606.0.html

@topic
Sorry brother, it's a little bit too late to introduce this topic.
Where were you or where have you been? I've posted at least 5 topics regarding the selective arrest of EFCC and OBJ.
I fought dead heads for many months, did my best to open their minds, but of course many of these folks love to be bamboozled and brain-washed.
It doesn't take much for these same folks to start dancing behind total failure and unfair justice (Mr. EFCC and OBJ).
To me, EFFC is nothing but a pure political tool, a joke and a country wrecker. And absolutely has much more damages than anything constructive for Nigeria.
Are you telling me that out of 36 governors, only 5 of them are the bad fruits?

It makes me sick to my stomach when dead heads start dancing and singing glory songs behind EFCC; none of these folks is intelligent enough to understand the game and the real failure embedded within EFCC as an organization.


Stay cool while I dig out some old topics on this matter.

@topic:

I am no OBJ's fan, but we must be very careful with speculation, especially when it involves death of someone. You're not only hurting OBJ and Adedibu, but also afflicting grievous mental suffering on Bola Ige's family.

And I'm not calling you out, but only asking you to be certain and present some tangible facts to support this story.

One love!

For many years now Nigerian police as a job has been the most degrading and defiling job or position for anyone. And it is sad and unacceptable that all the retarded IG (past or present) have done nothing, but added to the debasement of this department.

Even though I'm not condoning the policeman's state of mind, but I totally understand the root of his mentality; and I hold the IG (past and present) responsible.

e.g: Ehindero ran all over this country for many years getting involved with anything and everything except for his main duties as the head of this department. At the end of the day he did nothing, but looked out for himself and kissed OBJ's ass like a 2 year old; what a despicable human being.

My question is, how can a country move forward effectively and efficiently when the security of the nation and the citizens is in the hands of Hungry and extremely unhappy group of people?

In order for one to become an excellent police man, this individual must be committed, dedicated, loyal to his people and country and honest under any circumstances. However it is crystal clear that this doesn't happen or will never take place in Nigeria for many many years to come.
We should look at other countries and it wouldn't take us too long to discover that policeman as a job is seen as a prestigious position, which some will kill to have.

Instead of beating up the poor policeman, let's identify the root of the problem, recommend solutions and hope for the best.
Believe me, it isn't easy to be a policeman in Nigeria!

May God bless Nigeria.

And I wonder who these people may be?


My man, simmer down; nobody is defending ALAMS, infact ALAMS can go straight to hell.
What we are trying to do here is discovering what really happened and how we can move forward and never repeat the same failure.

Yes, OBJ did few things right, but also intentionally made enormous mistakes.

e.g: You built a house for the under-privileged citizens, but few days later you killed these folks and set the house on fire. Now the question is, what have you done?
My point is, what OBJ did wrong over shadows what he did right.
The entire nation is still divided and many corrupt governors are still walking around freely today just because of OBJ despicable leadership style.

Please, do not let us settle for less, OBJ had the opportunity, he had the entire nation on his side, but everything went straight into the toilet bowl as soon as he unsuccessfully attempted to change our constitution to prolong his shameful regime.

Please, do not get things twisted, there is nobody on anyone's side; we just want to point out the failure and hopefully some of us will learn one or two things from these leaders' shameful actions.

May God bless Nigeria.

If daddy is on crack, will you blame the son for getting drunk?

Daddy= OBJ
Son= ALAMS

None of these people is a saint.
But I still hold OBJ responsible for all this mess. The opportunity OBJ had to change things for better only comes once in a life time, but he deliberately did not take advantage of the opportunity.
He did not lead by showing great examples.

He was pretty much unprofessional, vindictive, childish, corrupt, unfocused, reckless and totally lost touch with the entire nation.
If the president is defective and corrupt, what do you expect from the governors and others?

His son was invited the same way Ehindero was invited.

What is the different between the 2.

MAMAJAMA is one confused individual who has no fact on anything, but loves to uncontrollably run his watery mouth .

BIGB1 ALAM belong to the same group of disgrace Nigerians like IBB. what credibility does a ROUGE Like ALAM has? a man that dressed as a coward female to escape prosecution. I'm sure people like you are saying obj was responsible for this criminal stealing from his state. Its amazes me why the useless journalist are publishing this crazy story. why didn't they asked him where he got the money he used in buying all the houses he got from? why didn't they asked him where he got the millions he invested in a trust funds for his children. as far AS i am concern ALAM belong to the group of disgraced Nigerians like IBB, ABACHA and Umaru DIkko.

Instead of us to intelligently address a situation and make sense out of it; a lot of us just prefer to run around pointing fingers and talking rubbish with absolutely nothing to grasp from their statements at end of the day.

This situation isn't about Alams, OBJ or anybody. It is about how things are be operated defectively in Nigeria.

Do you truly believe that fight against corruption really exist in Nigeria?

Who is fooling who?
A very good one!

It is what it is; some folks simply love to be bamboozled.

So, what was the purpose of rushing this guy back to Nigeria from his hospital bed in Dubai, to be released less than 10 days later?

It makes no sense to me.

By the way, what happened to the rest of the corrupt governors?
Are they telling us that only 5 governors are corrupt?

Alamieyeseigha opens up, indicts Obasanjo


A former Governor of Bayelsa State, Chief Diepreye Alamieyeseigha, on Sunday said ex-President Olusegun Obasanjo was behind his ordeal with the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission.

Alamieyeseigha, who spoke at a thanksgiving service for him at the Royal House of Grace Church, Yenagoa, claimed that Obasanjo and some foreign powers viewed him as an impediment to their alleged oil deals in the Gulf of Guinea.

He also accused the Obasanjo administration of making the British Government to charge him for terrorism and not money laundering.

The former governor, who spoke for the first time since he ragained his freedom on July 26, 2007, said he was detained with madmen for 15 days in a London prison.

He traced his travails to his refusal to back Obasanjo’s botched third term agenda and his closeness to former Vice-President Atiku Abubakar.

According to him, the former President had on August 18, 2005 sought his support to stay in power beyond 2007 but when he declined, he(Obasanjo) directed the Chairman of the EFCC, Mallam Nuhu Ribadu, to deal ‘decisively’ with him.

Alamieyeseigha added that Obasanjo also instructed the EFCC to deal with a former Governor of Delta State, Chief James Ibori, for also not supporting the third term agenda and for being close to Abubakar.

The former governor described his ordeal as a price he had to pay for leadership and added that he had overcome because God had not finished with him.

He said, “I really walked through the valley of the shadow of death. I am alive by the grace of God.

“I will document the experience in a readable form, for historians, political scientists and others to benefit from.

“On August 18, 2005, I received a call from Ribadu, asking me to go and reconcile with the then President. He (Ribadu) said that he had been directed by the former President to deal decisively with me and Ibori.

“Coincidentally, that was the day we held a Federal Executive Council meeting. I visited Obasanjo around 8pm on that day.

“Chief Solomon Lar and his wife were there. Obasanjo said he had been informed that I was going to run with Abubakar, but that he was not prepared to leave in 2007.

“I asked him (Obasanjo) who informed him that I was going to run with Atiku as his deputy. He said Abubakar told him. I then said I was not aware and that I was also qualified to be Nigeria’s President and not deputy.

“Obasanjo said he was not only the President, but also the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, and that he would deal decisively with me. I was very frank with him, but I will not share those details.

“I said, ‘Mr. President, you are the luckiest (ex-President) I have ever seen on earth, having been President three times (twice as civilian president and once as a head of state). I told him he would leave on May 29, 2007 and I asked him not to threaten me again.

“Before we left the Villa (Aso Rock), Obasanjo said he would leave me alone, if I could leave Abubakar and support him.”

The former governor disclosed that on August 26, 2005, he flew to Germany through Dubai, for medical attention but unknown to him, the Presidency had planned to put hard drugs and explosives in his luggage in order to have him arrested as a terrorist.

He claimed that after he had had an operation in a German hospital, Obasanjo called him and wished him quick recovery.

Alamieyeseigha said that shortly after the ‘get-well message’, he started receiving ‘funny’ telephone calls.

He said that on September 15 when he was discharged, two of his children joined him to move his luggage to London where they reside.

Upon landing at the Heathrow Airport, he said, over 50 policemen, who came to arrest him, told him that they had a directive from Nigeria to do so.

He claimed that Ribadu was at the airport to identify him and that when his luggage was searched, no explosive, gun or hard drug was found by the policemen.

Despite the fact that nothing incriminating was found on him, he said that the Police still went ahead to prosecute him after detaining him with madmen.

The former governor said the presiding magistrate expressed surprise that a sovereign nation could ask another nation not to allow its citizen not to return home to be tried for ‘whatever offence.’

Alamieyeseigha claimed that the British Government facilitated his escape to Cote d’Ivoire, having been disappointed by the conduct of the then Minister of Justice and Attorney-General of the Federation, Chief Bayo Ojo (SAN), who told the magistrate not to allow him to return to Nigeria.

He said upon getting to Cote d’Ivoire, he met a friend , Alhaji Yahaya, who asked him to join his aircraft to Lagos.

According to him, in Lagos, another plane was arranged to take him to Port Harcourt, from where he travelled by road to Amassoma, his hometown, in Southern Ijaw Local Government Area.

Alamieyeseigha said immediately the Presidency learnt that he had returned, it ordered that his home be destroyed.

“This, he said, made him to relocate to the Government House, Yenagoa.

He wondered why Obasanjo, whom he assisted to be re-elected in 2003, chose to persecute him.

The former governor also alleged that the Obasanjo regime extended its fangs to a former Speaker of the Bayelsa State House of Assembly, Mr. Boyelayefa Debekeme.

Alamieyeseigha said that Debekeme, who was detained in an underground cell to facilitate his December 9, 2005, was later charged with terrorism.

He said that after his removal and movement to Abuja, the Presidency directed the day that he should be returned to Britain.

Alamieyeseigha claimed that he was taken to Immigrations office at midnight for another passport.

He said that after the passport was issued, the British High Commission refused to give him visa and that his friends in government advised him not to eat or drink, to avoid being poisoned.

He also flayed the claim that Abubakar’s visit to him in Dubai in July was ment to overthrow the government.

The EFCC, according to him, later generated a letter in Dubai, that he was a persona-non-grata.

Alamieyeseigha declared that nobody could intimidate him and that 100 Obasanjos could not suppress the Ijaw nation.

He stated that he had forgiven all the members of the Bayelsa House of Assembly, who removed him, as well as his then deputy, Dr. Goodluck Jonathan, now VP, who ‘ran away’ because of the pressure.

The former governor, who returned to his home state last Friday, said because the government did not know what to do with him , it asked him to plead guilty.

He said that he agreed to do so to stop the killings in the Niger Delta.

Alamieyeseigha was on July 26, 2007 jailed for 12 years, on a six-count charge, with each count attracting a two-year jail term.

The 12-year jail term was served concurrently, making him to spend just two years in prison.

Since Nigerian prisons take nine months to be one year, this implies that Alamieyeseigha had served out his jail term, having been in detention since December 9, 2005, and was eventually released from Ikoyi Prisons in Lagos on July 26.


http://odili.net/news/source/2007/sep/3/421.html

The dead heads continue to hold IBB responsible for everything; even if these folks miss their flight from DC to China, I'm 100% sure that they will still point fingers at IBB as the reason why the flight was missed.

Infact, I wouldn't be surprised if mamajama comes out tomorrow and says IBB is responsible for the war in Iraq; this is how dull this guy could be.

Enough is enough; Nigeria will never progress if we continue to cry like pussy cat and use IBB as an excuse for
everything.
Let us get a life and move forward.

This has nothing to do with the man; this is nothing, but how I feel.
Infact, I may be wrong, but I still have the right to express what i think.
I can also assure you that I have absolutely nothing to gain or lose if IBB returns.


No need to waste time or energy on this issue; nothing is guaranteed for anybody. Let us just hope for a great Nigeria.

May God bless Nigeria.

Did IBB tell you to apologies on his behalf?

Did I mention that I was speaking on behalf of anybody?

My man, pay attention!

First, I will like to express my sympathy, respect and understanding to those who went through difficult period during IBB's regime.

If IBB was our president today:

- Things would have been different in many ways for better.
- He would have gotten more support from very powerful Nigerians all over the world, who were ready to assist in elevating this nation back to the top.
- The pride of our nation would have been restored and Aso Rock would have commanded more positive respect from Nigerians in general.
- Corruption would have been eradicated; an effective and efficient strategy to control corruption in Nigeria would have been introduced.
- Leaders in general wouldn't have the guts to ever stash away any funds that belong to the government.
- Restoring the Nigerian economy and improving the standard of living would have been witnessed by now.
(sometimes it takes the one that breaks it to restore it faster)


IBB never calls himself a saint and no one is calling him a Messiah.
Absolutely the man made few mistakes during his time just like any one of us. And I still feel that we've made a major mistake and blew a life time opportunity to quickly restore Nigeria back as the Giant of Africa, by not allowing IBB to come back and redeem himself.

As few of us still see this man as an evil genius; in my book IBB remains the most intelligent, loyal, stylish, honest, generous, dedicated and exciting true leader Nigeria has ever had.

I wish President Yar'Adua the best and long life; but I think at this point in Nigeria IBB would have been a better fit. And I hope one day he gets the opportunity in any way to redeem himself and show Nigerians his true identity as a kind and God fearing individual, who cares about people in general.

May God bless Nigeria.