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KanwuliaJara:
Only for those who call BIAFRICA home!



Even where so called graduates cannot spell their names!
Even where the unemployment rate keeps increasing for so-called graduates!
Even as the educational system in Nigeria can be described as 'YAHOOIST' at best!

EVEN AS THE SO-CALLED LEARNED PROFESSOR WHO WROTE THE ARTICLE IS STILL OUT OF NIGERIA!



Ha!

@ KanwuliaJara, I really don't quite agree with every part of your comment. One who has lived it and experienced both sides of a story tells it better. Therefore, the writer living abroad even gives more credibility to his assumptions because he is writing from first-hand experience. Even if one failed, there's nothing bad in sharing that experience with others as a service to humility. That's actually what Consultants are (experts in a field they have experience in, not by studies only).

Having said that, i think u're right about the collapsing everything in Nigeria from education, hospitals to security. How could anyone function successfully there?

mutter:
In 1994 my daughter at age 1 plus started chocking, I rushed her to the clinic, at that time I was living in VI, in Nigeria. While waiting for a doctor I saw a man slumped on the floor, his wife crying. I asked the nurse what was wrong and she said they did not have any money. They needed 10,000 Naira. I gave the wife the money with my address- told her to return it when her husband had recovered and worked to save the money. I never took their Identities or where they lived. / Months later the man , wife and kids came visiting all dressed up to return the money. As the left I gave the money to the little kids. I told the man that he had given me faith to believe in humans and I would always remember this gesture of appreciation. Yes he gave me something worth that money. Faith in mankind.
So please just keep helping, anything God gave us, we have to use to praise him.

Wow! Quite motivating and reinforcing. I bless God for people like the above.

Some people think I care much about appreciation or 'thank you' from the lady. Honestly that will not add or remove from my height. I did not lose any money on her so I really didn't lose anything. Rather it's that 'burning bridge' part for other people who may need help. Please whenever you are ungrateful note that you are burning the bridge for people coming behind you.

299:
This story may not be complete because according to the op; 'SHE SAID DURING HER NYSC, A GUY MADE SURE SHE HAD EVERYTHING SHE WANTED BUT NEVER FOR A SINGLE DAY ASKED FOR ANYTHING IN RETURN'. I honestly think the above is a clear indication that the op may have asked for 'something' in return . Maybe that's why the girl decided to blank him out completely.

I did not ask her for anything, and would never ask her for anything inappropriate. I mentioned she was once my neighbor meaning I knew her dates (bfs) and parents so well. What I didn't know was this other side of her. She was not the first person God has lifted up using me. Ordinarily I would not bother myself with someone like that. My frustration only underscores my shock. I always thought she was a well-mannered lady.

ayoaces:
Why do you want to call her? Delete her number even. Make she dey carry her wahala dey go. If she makes it through fine, if not all well and good, she is not your problem anymore.

I have really thought of the bolded but didn't want to look childish and petty. She said a lot of nasty, unprintable things I can't post here. I was just being civil in describing her utterances on the phone. She's super ungrateful! She even tried to compare me with some men she claimed built houses for some female celebrities but don't go about singing their praises...also said during her NYSC, a guy made sure she had everything she wanted but never for a single day ask for anything in return....that she will respect that man forever....SMH! I felt like a piece of used up and dumped shit when she said that!

SirAweezy:
I seriously gives preference first to a male than the female...

BTW: This is not to say that some men don't do that too.

But it pays to be humble, grateful and always hopful according to your diligent work.

To your advise OP: please you've got no biz or whatsoever with her anymore, let her be.

I thought it's only me that feel same way. Honestly, I don't know if this is a gender thing because the attitude of some of our sisters really suck! Dash a man N10k to solve a problem, he will always come back to thank you someday with wine, bottles of groundnuts, calling you sir until you feel embarrassed. Give the same N10k to a Nigerian lady on her birthday you will hear from the side how she's criticizing you for either being cheap, or saying you are chasing her with N10k.....I am sorry to say that this is worse among ladies from a certain part of the Nigeria especially across the Niger...

".. When you show appreciation it is not about you. You are encouraging and motivating the person you showed appreciation to keep doing good to others. That way the society gets better.".. Someone once said saying ‘Thank you’ is what makes the United States a land of charity & benevolence.

A young lady from the Eastern part of Nigeria who used to be my neighbor at Lagos approached me several months ago at Lagos and complained she’s wasting away since graduation 2 years ago because she couldn’t get a good job. I gave her most of my Aptitude test preparatory and GMAT books and encouraged her to study and pass bank aptitude tests, then call me. She did pass. I called all my friends and begged them to push her in. Suddenly, I didn’t hear from her any longer for over Four months. I later ran into her friend who told me she got hired as a full staff in one of the old-generation banks in Lagos through one of the contacts I gave her. The lady was even begging me to please help her too. I was a bit shocked and called her, she picked the call and was a bit cold ‘professional’ on the phone. She promised to call back when she was free from work. She never did. Almost a week later she sent a few line text that she forgot to call back. She’s been very busy and comes back late. I replied that I only wanted to know how she’s doing and if she got the job. She replied with one line “Yes, thanks a lot for your help by the way”.

I shared this story with one of my friends who helped her. He said that makes a big difference between helping a Nigerian man and a Nigerian woman. The men will always remember who got them there and even call you 'my Oga' forever, while the young ladies will always feel entitled that you did it because they were beautiful. I suspect the man told her I wasn’t too pleased with her. She called me last week and blew hot and cold ranting saying Nobody is God, her glory goes to God not to men, that if it’s not the will of God it would not happen…bla, bla, bla, that she was planning to call and thank me specially after her confirmation…we exchanged words and she later de-friended me on Facebook.

Anyway, I just heard through a very reliable Manager that a senior manager said she may not be confirmed if she doesn’t start doing certain things right in the next few months. I have not shared this confidential information with her and don’t feel like, yet my conscience tells me to inform her.

Should I or Should I not? I feel she was very ungrateful with an arrogant spirit of pride and entitlement. Yet something tells me she lacks a good career mentor, so may not be her fault. It’s just the Nigerian environment and some men who run around these young ladies that condition them to feel entitled. Sometimes I blame these men for lack of values and manners in some of our young ladies.

Cheeese Cake! Once after 6 years start telling kids the truth about life and their body. You make them stronger and better prepared for life situations.

Tell her that Mommy and Daddy make baby together because mommy and Daddy are married. They talked about it, prayed about it because they want her to have a little brother/ sister to play with. Now God has answered their prayer. She should pray that the baby comes out safely.

It's distracting. Perhaps having occasional scheduled lunch and happy hour after work is more professional. Always give your spouse space to do his/her work because if that job ends, money dries out, if money dries out, wahala begins. if wahala begins, na woman go first run -4x40 say you be lazy man with no goals in life. She will start dating your friend with money, then you hear that and plan to kill your friend. Before you even carry out the plan, you'll be caught and sent to jail for 8years. While you are in jail she will sell your property and have 2 kids for your friend. You will hear that in jail, get very upset and become gay....

So you and her, na who dey suffer her decision now? Silly reasons people give to commit suicide!!

Answer is Yes , 80% of people out there married people they didn't love, rather they loved something they had be it beauty, money, power, connections, height, size, se..x, good job, etc The bad news is 70% of that population are stuck in a loveless marriage, where they constantly plot and plan to kill each other. About 60% of that are either divorced or planning to divorce before the end of this year.

You never marry and you are already planning what you will do with an imaginary wife...haba! What if the woman doesn't want to have joint purse with you, will you force her? Na so fight dey carry start between spiritual wives and spiritual husbands. Please marry first and show us pics on Nairaland to confirm, then ask us this questions. For now I advise you concentrate on your studies and work.

But to help you small, there's nothing wrong if the other partner agrees, but don't force him or her. Simply have a financial plan and budget for your family and let the most frugal person in the house run the budget. Usually women are more financially frugal...u get my verdict.

However joint account works only if a man is making more money, if the woman is making more money, she will never agree to joint account. Ask your dad!

Sista, sorry ooo! But till I hear from Raphael's side of the story I won't say a word

Some people know how to attract sympathy but when u finally hear what they did, what they are doing and what they plan to do, you sef will run to TB Joshua to seek cover. A woman nearly made me go beat up her husband when she narrated to me what her husband was doing to her. Thank God I took my time and heard from her husband.. hmmm that women was 100% loyal to her pastor, abandoned family and slept in church on night vigil tarry nights, etc. She even brought some fetish objects home like blessed oil, candles, white handkerchiefs, baby dolls and nearly turned the man's house into a shrine. Until one day the man caught her sprinkling some liquid on his suits. That was what caused the fight and not the reason the woman gave me. women eeeeh! Haba!!

Richy4:
Poverty is the key issues to all this problems
And the orientation they got right from childhood that a man is meant to take care of them and shoulder all their responsibility and their families when they are not even married..... ......

Bad friends and peer pressure play some bad role on this too.
Oh do you remember alhaji, he takes care of my major need. School fee
Femi is responsible for recharge cards
Efe is my escort If i want to eat out. He buys everything. And re stocks my wardrobe
Emeka is my true love. I will marry him because he has a bright future even though he is a student now, I know he will be working tomorrow. And we settle down.

When other girls heard all that, they feel it is the best way to live and start acting the same

These are more of eroded values and poor family upbringing than poverty issues. Even abroad I know ladies from other African countries who are poorer than our girls who do not expect men to take care of their problems, and won't do the types of things our girls do just to get by. These girls even talk about the eroded values of some of the female colleagues and friends from Nigeria as a turn-off.

Kanwulia:
NEVER!!!!!

To 'forsake all others' was NEVER part of my marriage contract, and will NEVER be!
Thanks!

Huh?... you mean you still kept in touch with all your Ex's, chatting, texting, sexting, Facebooking, whatsapping, 2going etc? That's dangerous you know?

Kanwulia:
Women raised with low self-esteem issues!
100% YES!
They should DIE inside the abuse.
No sympathies!
Amen.


If na to fight other women for the same BEASTS OF MEN . . . dem mouth go dey run like 'mmiri jordan' ati 'by the rivers of babylon'!
Mtcheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!!!

Nawa o! Does it then mean that a very large population of ladies in Naija are raised with low self-esteem? Because the things ladies do there these days in relationships are baffling...

"...Always ask your date how his/her previous dates and relationships ended and what they think about ex's. If u discern spirit of deceit, lack of emotions, resentment, hate, hurt, creepy nature and vengeance, thread with caution. That's who he/she really is. Your own story shall be told one day when you become Ex....."

BananaBender:
If only Nollywood will do a talent hunt on Nairaland...........


We have so many amazing fiction writers here

Yes dear, you are absolutely correct. Amazingly the characters are in Nairaland too...when it hits them...they scream "Nollywood Script" to cover themselves. The truth is Nollywood stories are based on real-life stories. Keep doing, we keep writing ur script, and Nollwood keeps acting it.

Thank God me I get one nice naija igbo lady for the past 4 years who has never failed me. I thank her for making a difference. However the more I hear what some of our naija sistas do to men the more I shiver and tremble. Some ladies are the reason some men treat our naija sistas as suspects from day-one until proven innocent.

1). I Ran into a man last week in Canada who said he’s been training a naija girl for the past 4yrs in college & they both agreed to marry this year. My dude traveled to Naija in March as they agreed for the trad only to find out that another home-based dude has started paying dowry on the same lady. My dude came back empty-handed, heart-broken. 4yrs investment lost, travel fare lost, souvenir he bought for the wedding lost, time out of work lost. Now dude is just mean and heartless when you mention naija girl. Good a thing I heard the home-based man also abandoned the heartless double-dating girl from a popular town close to Owerri (won’t mention the community. I no wan die). As at the time of my post that sista is still single. She lost both end.

2). This one sef, I no understand. A naija babe at Abuja is in the center of a heated confrontation. She has been double-dating 2 guys. The guy at Abuja is no-nonsense, mean, aggressive and beats the crap out of her. The one at Lagos is very educated, nice, gentle and respects her. My dude at Lagos said each time he visits Abuja this girl will refuse to spend a night with him; she prefers to come, rush-rush, and go for fear of being beaten up by the Abuja-based man if he finds out. Meanwhile, she spends weekend at the mean guy’s house, cooking, washing, and cleaning otherwise the man will ‘panel-beat her’. Her reason is that the mean guy promised to marry her. Haba! My dude was swearing to start being mean and ruthless to her now to get his own respect?...LoL!

3). This one is a female corper. She is a serial use-and-dump expert. She left trails of using and dumping any man she dated. Once their money and gifts stops following she finds a flimsy reason dumps them and block all contacts. She just got another mugu where she was posted. But a concerned friend who knows her well back in school in the East has warned the new dude about this girl’s records. My dude is now confused how to proceed because the thing that happened to others will likely happen to him too. But from the outside there’s nothing about this girl that warns you she’s creepy. She dresses modestly, acts like a reserved person, and even goes to Pentecostal church. but my dude is threading with caution now especially as the girl just said she wants to delay intimacy in the relationship till they are stronger.

Please Naija men and women, who’s more responsible for the lack of respect some men have for the women in relationships?

I am so interested in this topic, but I don't know why. Why am I so interested in this topic when I have no such problems..

nora544: you are so right andso aon point!

Thanks dear. Some people don't understand that being naive doesn't mean that everyone is naive or that God makes exceptions for naive people.

Obviously in a country somewhere in western Africa where the 'ends justify the means' stories like this don't get any attention, and won't make much sense. Afterall who else isn't stealing there, no matter how little? It only shocks anyone with brains that they all feel God can overlook their sins and pour blessings and miracles on them. Do you need any further explanation to understand why that country has some of the most natural resources but it's citizens are some of the poorest people in the world? Are poverty, crime, militancy and social problems blessings from God?

Not sure where to post this and what to make out of this. I am neither in support nor against the writeup but just making it available to those who want to read. Please no be me dey talk o!! (MOD feel free to post on FP or appropriate place)

Oritsejafor is finished; CAN is damaged – Cardinal Okogie

In perhaps the most stinging criticism of the leadership of the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN), by a past leader of the body, the former Catholic Archbishop of Lagos, Olubunmi Okogie, said the current president of the association, Ayo Oritsejafor is making a mockery of the association by his closeness to President Goodluck Jonathan and the ruling Peoples Democratic Party.

Describing him as “fallen from grace to grass”, Mr. Okogie said Mr Oritsejafor’s has also lost grip of the leadership of CAN.

Mr. Okogie, who spoke during an interview with the New Telegraph newspapers, said Mr Oritsejafor “unrighteous” quest to remain in power and his “romance” with politicians have finished him and derailed the once respected Christian body from the lofty dreams of its founding fathers.

“My brother, I must tell you this; CAN leadership today is zero. CAN has no leader,” he said.

“Thank God you are talking to one of the founders of CAN, and I was there as their leader for eight years. Then, the whole country knew that CAN had a leader, not by my own might, but by God. Because what we were doing then, we had only one voice. But the problem we have now is that people are struggling for power in unrighteous way. And because he is struggling for power, he can do little or nothing.

“And we didn’t buy the position. But this time around, because they are rushing to be in power, nobody obeys them. And look at how they are making mockery of themselves and making mockery of “religion”. Is that religion? Today, they are with the federal government. We saw the writing on the wall when we left. The very first person that took over started romancing with Obasanjo. Then one or two CAN presidents tried their best before it got to this present CAN president, Oritsejafor. This is not right. Look at how Oritsejafor has fallen, from grace to grass.”

Mr. Okogie took a swipe at the CAN president over his link with the $9.3 million smuggled abroad purportedly to procure arms and seized by South African authorities.

Two Nigerians and an Israeli were arrested at the Lanseria Airport in South Africa on September 5, 2014 as they tried to enter the country with the cash conveyed in a private jet owned by the President of the Christian Association of Nigeria, CAN, Ayo Oritsejafor.

Mr Okojie said if Mr Oritsejafor is indeed a man of God as he claimed he should rely on God and should have no business getting involved in the $9.3 million arms scandal.

“They are ready with their moneybags. Where did they get the money from? Where did they get the $9.3m that has been seized by South Africa from? They said it was to buy arms. We have to be very careful in this nation. What is the man (Oritsejafor) looking for? If you call yourself a man of God, then you should rely on God. Why should he be jumping up and down? But because he was not elected, not chosen by God, that is what is happening. Today, he wants to build a university, tomorrow he wants to be something else, next tomorrow he wants to be like other people.
He said Mr Oritsejafor is a sinking man and might take President Goodluck Jonathan down with him.

“And he is not going down alone; he is also staining the name of the Head of State. Of course, why not? If you eat with those with dirty hands, then you must be dirty.”

Criticising the House of Representatives for electing not to investigate the botched arms deal, Mr. Okogie said the deal was a clear case of money laundering and that President Jonathan and Mr. Oritsejafor should be prosecuted for their involvement in the deal.

“In fact, if I have a lawyer, I would sue them. And I am telling you that I will win. If you can tell me that if I carry huge sums of money without declaring it, that you will arrest me for money laundering, then what is this one. They were carrying all that money and it was not declared. It is a clear case of money laundering. Yet, they are the ones making laws against money laundering.”

The Catholic priest also spared some stinging words for private jet flying mega preachers in the country describing their taste for finery things as unbiblical. He said rather than surround themselves with material things; they should instead spend the money to take care of the needy in the society.

“As far as I am concerned, why are they men of God? I asked one so-called religious leader, and you know what he told me? He said, “My God is a rich God. So if yours is a poor God, that’s your business.” Imagine! So you can even see that this one can’t be called a man of God. And these are the people that tell you they can work miracles, that they have a direct telephone line to God.

“They say they can do this, they can do that, and God is watching all of us. If it were to be in the Old Testament, they would all have been struck down by God. But God is a patient God. We have to be praying for this kind of people, for them to have a change of heart. What are they looking for with jet? Another one said, “Jesus said go into the whole world and evangelise, so how can I go into the whole world, with what? I need a plane to be able to go to the whole world.”

“Even the devil can quote scripture. But did Jesus Christ say you should go and steal to go and buy plane? But now they are claiming that they were given the jets as gifts. But why can’t they spend that money on the poor? There are many Nigerians who are begging that they have nothing to eat, and yet you say you’re preaching. Preaching for what? Are there no pastors where they are going? May God not punish us according to our sins.”

Source: [url] https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/168738-oritsejafor-is-finished-can-is-damaged-cardinal-okogie.html [/url]

Story! A nation of lies and tales by moonlight!

I wrote in another thread that I have learned not to pity people in Nigeria when they go through problems. they are mostly petty-minded and apologetic to evil. It's a shame that a nation that has the largest population professing righteousness the worst unemployment, sins, crime, heartlessness, curses, evil, fraud happen in the nation. You cannot do business with anyone there and have peace of mind. Obviously there's no sign that God is near Nigeria. Just self-deceiving religious bigots! Who cares what they think and how they feel about the truth? The entire world already know who we are. Do we think that investors will over-look these negative portraits and invest in Nigeria? Without investor-confidence attracting a sustained growth in the manufacturing sector how will there be employment? Let the Govt keep hiring policemen, immigration officers and security agents to check crime they created, and road-sweepers and call it employment. There's fraud and corruption in every country, the difference in Nigeria is that there's no outrage rather we hail it.

For your information it's corruption and poor value systems that created poverty and unemployment in Nigeria. Both are recipes to crime, social problems and civil wars. We ain't seen anything yet.

I have learned not to pity people in Nigeria when they go through problems. they are mostly petty-minded and apologetic to evil. But @op you have shown that I am wrong- there are still men/women with principles in Nigeria. It's a shame that a nation that has the largest population professing righteousness the worst sins, crime, heartlessness, curses, evil, fraud happen in the nation. You cannot do business with anyone there and have peace of mind. Obviously there's no sign that God is near Nigeria. Just self-deceiving religious bigots! Who cares what they think and how they feel about the truth? The entire world already know who we are. Mr. Ibekwe, may God strengthen your courage.

Hmmmmmmmm! Very long pause on the current Nigeria.... I wouldn't care less if not that a 'private jet, a clergy, arms deal, and large cash were mentioned in the same sentence. Am I the only one who feels I'm probably wasting my time in church these days rather than get real about making money. Looks like there's no 'clean money' after all...

But when he was dating you he was buying you gifts and dropping you off and being generous to you and you described him to your friends and roommates as a gentleman and nice man because you were enjoying it then abi?. Now he married you and you want to change him? Why didn't you quit then when you saw the signs that he was a generous man? Sometime I wonder why people think that the partners they are dating will change after marriage?

No matter what the lies they tell the public to look good, most people who filed divorce did so either because of money or s*ex. If it's money, it may translate to either someone wants money or feels his/her partner doesn't have it. If it's S*ex, it's usually either S*ex has gone bad, or someone is cheating. Obviously people file divorce to be with someone they feel is better than their partner, then they come to NL to lie to us about how horrible their partner is. If he/she is horrible how come you start dating only 2 months after divorce? How come the women/men remarry so quick claiming loneliness? Did the new date drop from skies? Even when the reason is spousal abuse what we don't hear on NL is what started the fight, the arguments that led to the spousal abuse. Did the woman/man just woke up in the morning brushed her/his teeth and start punching you? What did you do to annoy her/him? dem no go tell us!!

Divorce is expensive financially, socially, spiritually, mentally, can lead to complicated health issues and untimely death. The only one who benefits from it is your partner's lover. A very smart person makes every effort to keep his marriage just as they take every sh*it to keep a job just to get paid.

Last bullet! Most divorces are engineered either by the advice of Lawyers who want job, pastors who want money, friends who want your partner for Se*x, or relatives who hate your partner so they can keep milking you. If you quit, you just fell mugu! Be smart!

May it not be my portion IJN!!!

Obviously 90% of Nairalanders read the subject of a topic and start commenting..we need to do something about the poor reading habit in our country Nigeria. It can result in false rumors, panic, mob actions and even wars.

Please for these people who have reading comprehension problems whenever you see the word 'Some' it means ' Not all' . Jeez!!

drnoel: Fine, agreed but cast a stone in a pool of water and expect it not to ripple.........ma broda it will ripple. If that being the case then tell me where in thiz world would u not find women with, as u put it " those game of lies? - the fake hair, fake nails, fake skin tone (thanks to Marykay), fake eye-lashes, fake cheek color, fake bosoms, fake accent, fake born-again etc. That awkward moment when the beautiful girl you met starts taking off all the layers of fake accessories (lies)." Those things u mentioned are not peculiar to nigerian women.

Yes they are not. I just used those for emphasis. But just like someone rightly pointed out above that there's a general perception that most Nigerian men cannot be trusted because of the issue of fraud, so is the general perception that most Nigerian ladies start out relationships on the foundation of lies. Again I have to emphasize that some tell these lies not to hurt, rather to either look good or be more marketable. My point in the post was that most often men find out about these lies and tend to feel used/ manipulated and begin to plot their own revenge. I therefore suggested that it's better to be yourself and keep it real in a relationship.

drnoel: Comfound it, I disagree with ur idea of using just one case try to make a point, that does work so it was left for me to correct u and shed light on the issue bettr so a layman will understand. If u want2 make a point use several situations.

Ok Got ya! but If I write all the instances I know of and have heard of, it will be ticker than Oxford dictionary. No one would read it. Where would I even start on the game of lies? - the fake hair, fake nails, fake skin tone (thanks to Marykay), fake eye-lashes, fake cheek color, fake bosoms, fake accent, fake born-again etc. That awkward moment when the beautiful girl you met starts taking off all the layers of fake accessories (lies).

....and please don't get me wrong. There are many (in the millions) of beautiful, honest, hardworking, Nigerian ladies with dignity and self-respect who would never fake anything to impress a man. This thread is about the liars in their midst to shape up...

drnoel: Really guys, dont u people get tired of bashing and rebashing our nigerian sisters? I mean, which other race of women will turn the other side when u wake up in the morning and fatt or when u start portraying ur nigerian male chauvinism or when u start speaking ur local dialectsor pigin english and she doesnt squeeze her face. Which other sisters can take u whole heartedly and call u "her husband" even though u havent married her and she isnt even sure if u would or would do ur house chores, wash ur clothes, cook for u, and even give u her ass on top of that although u guys aint married. Guys enof is enof, naija gurls maynot be the best cos many of em are conniving sluts but they suit our nigerian men wella thats why till 2day many nigerian men still go back to marry our women regardless of where the lady has gone or what she has done. Enof with the bashing already....Our naija sisters rock.

Wow! Now you beat me in the bashing! Do you really mean to say that some Nigerian ladies do these things you wrote just to convince a man to take care of them rather than look for a job and take care of themselves and have respect and dignity? Shocking! ......Hmmmmmm! you just bashed Nigerian ladies 3000 times more than I've ever done in my life.

carefreewannabe: I am not sure but the women you date must be very stvpid.

They set up a plan to act like the Holy Mary but didn't tell their friends / room mates to play along?

But you forgot that manipulators and liars are never smart otherwise they would never be caught and exposed. You hear it in the first place because they were caught. I still believe that honest people are smarter than liars because they are honest so that there will be nothing to expose. It doesn't mean they are saints, while liars naively believe they would never be caught until they are caught..

drnoel: Ur case is just one out of a hundred..... "Now I wont say I havent dated foreign women that has asked me where is the money or that wanted to get pregnant 4 me immediately they heard I was nigerian cos they heard all nigerians are multimillionaires, neither would I say I havent dated women that had suffered at the hands of fellow nigerians and had sworn to deal with the next nigerian they met...."

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Well, you only reconfirmed my post. So I am not sure where you disagree . Thanks!