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papa giddy:
@ binna      Are u an enemy of the gospel?  somepple still want the Gospel to still be in the 19th century by now. some christain still thinks development in christaindom is to toooo  fast, when God expect you to move at a speed of light. All northern African countries were once christain states filled with churches, but now occupied by unbelievers-muslims. can the gospel capture it back?? i dont see any thing in get a jet for God s work.if u are sad at it, then die!

I don't know which of my posts (or possibly some/all) gave you the impression that I am an enemy of the gospel.

If it was my response to your wishing failure on others in the name of Christ, then I am definitely an enemy of such a 'gospel'. My faith does not support one that wishes unwell on others. Unfortunately, the last part of your post ("i dont see any thing in get a jet for God s work.if u are sad at it, then die!" shows that we differ greatly on this.

If it was my response to someone else earlier post on the jet issue, I would apologize as it seems I may have been misunderstood. The bible says that "my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge"  and while the context in the passage is different, the truth is that the statement is applicable in all aspects of life. I posted not because I was in support or against the purchase of the jet, but rather to correct what I felt was misinformation by someone who (intentional or not) added credibility to his statements by saying he was an aviation worker.

The truth is I could easily argue on both sides of the turbulent river of discourse, though I am inclined towards the cons out weighing the pros. I have posted on a similar thread that I feel religious leaders should be role models, of not only piety, but also humility (which is not same as poverty). I would compare a private jet of today to a chariot in biblical times, and would then ask, "which of the prophets or apostles had a chariot?"

The rate of spreading the gospel has little to do with a private jet. While it may be more comfortable for the traveler, it wouldn't likely get you there any faster than a chartered flight. The procedure and time required would still be same, except that the vehicle of transport is now a private asset as opposed to a commercial airline. Private jets would require airports for take off and landing, and wont be landing in someone's farm or backyard. The travelers would still have to go through customs and immigration inspections, and still require visas for entry into countries where needed. Most importantly, you still can't be in two places at the same time.

If you are genuinely concerned about the northern african countries, I hope you will be at ease to know that several airlines still have regular flights to most cities in these countries.

I am all for spreading the gospel of Christ, but not in the sense that 'the ends always justifies the means'. History is littered with the evil that men have committed in the name of God, prime examples being the Christian crusade and the Moslem jihad.  

There are other ways the money involved could have been used to spread the gospel without creating an elitist image of the church or the church leaders. It seems most have forgotten that the word 'Christain' implies 'Christ like' and thus your way of life should be your greatest sermon.

I am sure sometimes in the future, private jets would possibly be common place like cars today, and the private jet would be replced by space shuttles or teleportation devices. At that time, you will find me at the forefront saying every human (not only Christians) deserve a private jet.

Life After Death - The Notorious B. I. G (Business Instead of Games)
Doggystyle - Snoop Doggy Dogg

Woodpecker:
u were doin exactly what she complained about

Gbishi Gbam Gbam!!!

It is shameful that supporters of purchasing the jet have very little to say in their favor except for ad hominem attacks (though warranted in certain cases).

Any RCCG member is free to criticize the purchase of the jet, so also any christian as the organization involved is of such, and not least is anyone who feels the purchase of the jet will impact him in any way or form or just simply has an opinion. To bar some from a discuss on the lack of 'locus standi' is an antic I associate with my learned friends of the legal profession.

Sweeping statements are made that all members of RCCG support the purchase of the jet. On this I disagree as I know of several who don't.

On the need for a private jet, several excuses can be provided, but there are few genuine reasons why someone needs a private jet.

It is prohibitively more expensive to fly a private jet than it is to fly first class on commercial airlines, and unless you spend the better part of your day in the air, it is still cheaper to fly a charter aircraft. The private jet attracts a fixed cost of $800,000 to $1,000,000 per  year. In addition is the variable costs which exceed the average cost of flying a similar number of people in first class commercial flights.

It is very saddening that in a bid to defend a pastor's purchase of a jet, all some have to offer is comparison to politicians and others, people that most would wager will not be going into heaven. A pastor should not be held to the same standards as ones such as IBB, Obasanjo or Obama.

The argument of schedule is also irrelevant, as his schedules are made within the bounds of the resources available. After all, he cant be in two places at the same time. While some may feel that they want him to be at several events over the course of a year, the question of if he 'needs' to be there is a different matter.

While I am more or less indifferent on the specific issue of RCCG's purchase, I generally feel that religious leaders, particularly  pastors, and churches, should be a reference for humility. A man of God should not have the need to be treated differently than the average man. I am always saddened when I see religious leaders in expensive cars with body guards (wondered why they don't want to die). A private jet of today can be likened to a chariot of the biblical time. Hence the question, "Which of the prophets and/or apostles had a chariot?". If you live like the rich, soon you will loose touch with the poor. Also, how do you the constructively criticize those who contribute towards your opulence (and possibly live similar lifestyle through ill gotten wealth).

One thing I am worried about is the fallout from the purchase. It will not be surprising if  leaders from other churches begin working earnestly towards similar purchases, and knowing how religious Nigerians are, members of such churches will do whatever the can to contribute towards the purchase (just not to be left out of the blessing that will be gotten by doing so). This in of itself is not bad, rather the problem is what Nigerians are willing to do in the name of God. Some will acquire the money through illegal means just to partake in the process. I still remember the saga of a few years back involving Sheraton hotels and the Christ embassy church, in which a Sheraton worker stole several millions  from the company coffers to donate to the church mainly towards the holding of an event at the national stadium.

Strength10:
Tribalism is the reason why Nigeria is still a century behind its counterparts. Why would you replace a man who has done so much to make nigeria banking system the envy of africa and the world. Last year, the American government asked the nigerian government why nigeria is not developing as fast as it should because they have 3 out of the 50 best economist in the world(Soludo, the former finance minister-Iweala and other lady) and Soludo said it was because we are being ruLed by bunch of fouls. He was made to apologise and aLmost lost his job. In retrospect, he is correct because we are being ruled by fouls who put tribaistic sentiment over the country. NigeriaS economy did not melt down in this global crises because of Soludo's policies and the US AND Other world leaders have been trying to understand why and how he did it.  That we have inflation now is way better what the mess in US and UK economy now
Nigeria does not honor intelligence and success and that is why we are where we are. If Soludo is fired, bad for Nigeria but good for him because the US and other world Authorities wil pick him up immediately because they know and understand his worth and value just like world bank picked up the former Finance Mnister after she was fired by obasanjo.
If tribal bigotry does not stop in Nigeria, we are doomed for years to come because it will only blind us to the truth and reality.

Please provide a reference for the comments you attributed to the US government. Anyone that equates academic intellect to economic growth is naive to say the least.

Soludo has been in office for 5yrs. The question is what has he accomplished in those years to warrant another 5yrs in office.

The Nigerian economy did not melt down in wake of the recent global recession, not because of the policies of Soludo (or any other person in office), but because it is well past the molten state and is now in gaseous form. We are so far back that there is no where to recede to.

Most countries have inflation and when minimal is healthy for the economy, but if you feel the Nigerian economy is currently better than the US or UK, then you must have lost your marbles.

Soludo is not being fired. The tenure of the CBN governor is 5yrs. His tenure is coming to an end and the question is should he be in office for the next 5yrs.

Okwonjo-Iweala worked for the world bank before becoming the minister for finance, and even as minister she was being partly paid by the world bank. Her going back to the world bank is less of a surprise. Soludo is unlikely to be employed by the US government has they have several indigenous economists of similar or greater caliber.

Tribal bigotry is bad but we do need to accommodate the interests of all parties involved. Even in the US preferential treatment is given to the minority in certain areas. While the tribal angle is not the crux of the issue, it is ironic that you fail to mention that it was the same 'tribal bigotry' that got Soludo the office, after Joseph Sanusi (who was from the west)

Rent for the Apartment
A young man met a beautiful girl and agreed to spend the night with her for $500. So they did. Before he left, he told her that he did not have any cash with him, but that he would have his secretary write a check and mail it to her, calling the payment "RENT FOR APARTMENT".

On the way to his office he regretted what he had promised, deciding that the whole event was not worth the price. So, he had his secretary send a check for $250 and enclosed the following note:

Dear Madam,

Enclosed find check in the amount of $250 for rent of your apartment.

I am not sending the amount agreed upon because when I rented the apartment I was under the impression that:

1) it had never been occupied;
2) that there was plenty of heat;
3) that it was small enough to make me cozy and feel at home.

Last night, however, I found it had been previously occupied, that there was no heat, and it was
entirely too large.

Upon receipt of the note, the girl immediately returned the check for $250 with the following note:

Dear Sir,

First of all, I cannot understand how you expect a beautiful apartment to remain unoccupied indefinitely.

As for the heat, there is heat if you know how to turn it on.

Regarding the space, the apartment is, indeed, of regular size, but if you don't have enough furniture to fill it, please don't blame the landlady!

Winnergal:
nope . . .

so he is a billionaire but not on forbes list? boke!

While I am not in support of the Bauchi state governor, Soludo should be replaced. The guy is an academician who is learning on the job. It is hard to believe that we cannot do better for a CBN governor.

Nokka:
First of all, how long was Alan Greenspan Chairman of the US Federal Reserve Bank? How long was J Edgar Hoover head of the FBI? All positions cannot be turn by turn to chop. Sometimes competence is paramount.

Secondly Soludo was a major consultant consultant to the UN, all of the Bretton Woods organizations, a visting Professor at several top notch Universities, as well as an author.  The man was making money by using his brain before he became Governor of the Central Bank.

1. So you feel Soludo is the only competent person for the job?

2. Please provide details on your notion of 'major consultant'.

3. When and which 'top notch' university was Soludo a visiting Professor

4. Please provide figures towards his income before he became CBN governor.

Seyi Sodimu - Love me jeje (love me tender)

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Naija guys are romantic in their own way.
He wont buy you flowers, as there are serious doubts that the naija girl appreciates such.
He doesn't read M&B, so don't expect him to bring such stories to life.
The gentleman in him may not always open the door for you, but will always pick up the tab after you.
He will not prepare a candle light dinner for you (after all thanks to regular power failure there is nothing special in candle light meals) but he will take you to the most expensive restaurant he can afford.
Things he cannot say in public, he will send as SMS.
He may not take you on long walks on the beach, but he will sit with you in the still of the night and talk about things that are of the heart.
He will hold on to you like if his life force depended on it.
He believes that his actions speak louder than his words.

papa giddy:
well, all i will  say to all who dont know is that it is not Adeboye s property. the fact that he is the head of the church is another thing. Am not sure he has that money. the jet belong to RCCG. not Adeboye ok?
   church  has always be known from History to be channel of civilization. check this out!, i mean in those days it use to be church motor bike, church car, church buses. BUT NOW! what do you expect to see church JETS of course
    may God bless Pastor Adeboye, he is a light and a shinning example of a good leader. he is a father and will contnue to be MY father, he will not fall in Jesus name, he will not miss heaven in jesue amen
 [size=14pt]NOW, to all the emeies of the Gospel, may never see success in all ur labours in Jesus.[/size]Just keep fightin the gospel ok? YOU HAVE NOT seen anything yet, not only will RCCG buyin a jet, prophet Abiara will soon land his own, Rev DR Ademola Ishola,prophet TB JOSHUA,pastor chris oyakhlome,pastor Chris okotie,oyedepo, samson Ayorinde,Gbile AKANNI, Bishop mike okonkwo,pasr orisajafor,etc.to If not the church then who  do want to is it NASFAT that u want or YOUMBAS islamic society??
    pls stop disgracing the ministers of God in this trend. Dont allow all those RAG Heads to insults the church and the minsters, let God judge those who are not ok among them!

Saddening to hear such from someone I assume (judging by the rest of the post) is a christian.

@FlyinNaija
Your post is full of misinformation (please note that am neither in support or against the purchase of the jet as I feel I am not privy to enough information to take a conclusive stance on the issue)

FlyinNaija:
Private Jet = layman's term
Business Jet = Professional term

1.There is nothing layman in referring to such units as private jets (as opposed to commercial jets). Business Jets and BizJet originated from marketers aiming to sell the units to corporate executives. The term corporate jet is more formal.

Why do organisations acquire these aircraft? Because it makes business sense. Most large fortune 500 companies have FLEETS of aircarft complete with a corporate flight department. In some cases, companies actually make money by owning these jets, e.g. lease it to a charter company when not using it. Aircraft are like real estate, they keep their value well. Citigroup just offloaded its fleet of aircraft in its quest to source for much needed funds. If Redeemed decided to offload this aircraft a few years down the line, it might end up not costing them anything.

2. Am not sure what you mean by 'business sense' but private jets are not bought because they are cheaper than flying commercial (in fact they are very expensive to maintain). The main reasons for having private jets is the comfort and flexibility of schedule. Also it serves as a status symbol as it is definitely a step above flying charters and a few steps above first class.

3. You don't make money by owning a private jet, but you could alleviate/share your cost by time sharing with others.

4. Aircrafts are definitely not like real estate, but more like cars. They require regular maintenance and depreciate value exponentially.

5. I don't know where you got your information on citigroup's fleet from, as they are still trying to sell them. The intend to downsize their fleet from 5 to 2 aircrafts. They will likely obtain a poor value for the planes, as the market is being glutted with units. The bank is willing to take the financial hit vs the public criticism and pressure from the government as they are receiving TARP funds. Citigroup recently declined to take possession of an earlier ordered plane, and would be losing the initial deposit (part will be recovered if the jet is sold).

6. The plane, which is a Gulfstream IV (as opposed to 4XP), was bought used as Gulfstream no longer makes the G IV (the specific unit was made in 1996). The market value of the plane will have depreciated significantly and resale will likely not be a viable option. The serviceable lifespan of an aircraft is usually defined by pressurization cycles which depends on how often it is flown, but the loss of value will also be influenced by obsolescence as it is a technological item. Irrespective,for tax purposes, private jets are usually depreciated over a seven year period, which should give you an idea of the life expectancy

The GO is a busy man who travels a lot, usually with an entourage. Add up his ticket fare and that of his entourage and you'll be suprised that the difference btw the total and the cost of operating his aircraft will not be as significant as you think.

6. Obviously you have no idea how much it costs to run a private jet. Lagos-London first class return ticket from BA will typically costs less than $55,000.00 for a party of 15. This is slightly less  than(about 80% of) the direct costs (fuel and co) for flying the gulfstream. Unfortunately the real killers is the annual fixed cost which is $800,000 -$1,000,000.

He needs privacy, which might be difficult for him to have while waiting in the departure hall of MMIA or ina crowded 450 seater Boeing 747. half the passengers will wants to shake his hand or ask for a prayer or just catch a glimpse of the man of God.

7.While I agree that he likely needs a level of privacy at times, contrary to your opinion, the world is not filled with people whose sole aim to to interact with pastor adeboye. Also there are VIP receptions and the first class cabin is not overcrowded.

Nigeria's road network is dangerous, and it is suicidal for anyone who can afford air travel to opt for road transport. The GOs tight schedule may render road travel  unfeasible. Lets examine a scenario. He has to attend his friday night vigil @ camp then preach in yola the next day followed by another programin jos. If he used the airlines his route will be lagos- abuja-yola-abuja-lagos-jos. if he used his private aircraft,it will be Lagos(or ibadan)-yola-jos. ability to fly directly between any two cities means he can be more productive. More convention/services/crusade per year=more souls to Christ.

8. I believe there are several government officials and workers that are members of the RCCG and if deemed dangerous, they should improve the road network

9. The question of safety of air travel is long discourse, but it is well known that while air crashes are less frequent they are commonly fatal

10. The faster mode of transport depends on your source and destination, as you cannot always land an aircraft close to your destination

11. He could cover the same itinerary outlined above by using a chartered flight

12. The number of convention/services/crusade per year does not necessarily equate to more souls to Christ

The G-IV is a top of the line long range aircraft, thecouldhave probably gone for something slightly smaller, maybe something in the "super midsize" category.

13. As said earlier the G IV is a discontinued model and thus top of the line wouldn't be my choice of words.

Just another look at the whole situation from an Aviation worker (not a redeemed member)

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@FlyinNaija
Your post is full of misinformation

FlyinNaija:
Private Jet = layman's term
Business Jet = Professional term

1.There is nothing layman in referring to such units as private jets (as opposed to commercial jets). Business Jets and BizJet originated from marketers aiming to sell the units to corporate executives. The term corporate jet is more formal.

Why do organisations acquire these aircraft? Because it makes business sense. Most large fortune 500 companies have FLEETS of aircarft complete with a corporate flight department. In some cases, companies actually make money by owning these jets, e.g. lease it to a charter company when not using it. Aircraft are like real estate, they keep their value well. Citigroup just offloaded its fleet of aircraft in its quest to source for much needed funds. If Redeemed decided to offload this aircraft a few years down the line, it might end up not costing them anything.

2. Am not sure what you mean by 'business sense' but private jets are not bought because they are cheaper than flying commercial (in fact they are very expensive to maintain). The main reasons for having private jets is the comfort and flexibility of schedule. Also it serves as a status symbol as it is definitely a step above flying first class.

3. You don't make money by owning a private jet, but you could alleviate/share your cost by time sharing with others.

4. Aircrafts are definitely not like real estate, but more like cars. They require regular maintenance and depreciate value exponentially.

5. I don't know where you got your information on citigroup's fleet from, as they are still trying to sell them. The intend to downsize their fleet from 5 to 2 aircrafts. They will likely obtain a poor value for the planes, as the market is being glutted with units. The bank is willing to take the financial hit vs the public criticism and pressure from the government as they are receiving TARP funds. Citigroup recently declined to take possession of an earlier ordered plane, and would be losing the initial deposit (part will be recovered if the jet is sold).

6. The plane, which is likely a Gulfstream IV-SP (as opposed to 4XP), was likely bought used as Gulfstream no longer makes the G IV. The market value of the plane will have depreciated significantly and resale will likely not be a viable option. The serviceable lifespan of an aircraft is usually defined by pressurization cycles which depends on how often it is flown, but the loss of value will also be influenced by obsolescence as it is a technological item. Irrespective,for tax purposes, private jets are usually depreciated over a seven year period, which should give you an idea of the life expectancy

The GO is a busy man who travels a lot, usually with an entourage. Add up his ticket fare and that of his entourage and you'll be suprised that the difference btw the total and the cost of operating his aircraft will not be as significant as you think.

He needs privacy, which might be difficult for him to have while waiting in the departure hall of MMIA or ina crowded 450 seater Boeing 747. half the passengers will wants to shake his hand or ask for a prayer or just catch a glimpse of the man of God.

Nigeria's road network is dangerous, and it is suicidal for anyone who can afford air travel to opt for road transport. The GOs tight schedule may render road travel  unfeasible. Lets examine a scenario. He has to attend his friday night vigil @ camp then preach in yola the next day followed by another programin jos. If he used the airlines his route will be lagos- abuja-yola-abuja-lagos-jos. if he used his private aircraft,it will be Lagos(or ibadan)-yola-jos. ability to fly directly between any two cities means he can be more productive. More convention/services/crusade per year=more souls to Christ.

The G-IV is a top of the line long range aircraft, thecouldhave probably gone for something slightly smaller, maybe something in the "super midsize" category.

Just another look at the whole situation from an Aviation worker (not a redeemed member)

Chop money:
Why dont u leave Soludo alone, one thing  we always do is to capitalize on one mistake without complementing his works. Pls leave soludo alone

and what are his works that need complementing?

Dr. Orlando Owoh and His African Kenneries Beats International
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Side B Track 3-5:   Mori Sisi Kan L'Ode / Sisi Fola Shade / Salewaye Ye Salewa

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People making conversions to forex value for comparison should reconsider as the purchasing power in the economies are different. A better comparison would be the kind of house you could buy with the money in one economy and compare to a similar housing asset in the other.

NGN 12 Million is slightly below what I would expect for a CBN governor, but if what the article states is true, he is living above his income.

I have never approved of him as  the CBN governor, as I felt he lacked the required skills and experience for the position. While his supporters will always cite the recapitalization and  consolidation of banks as his prime achievement, the truth his that it was never the problem nor the solution to the problem. The bane of the banking industry, and financial sector as a whole, as always been (and still is) poor corporate governance.

His argument for recapitalization essentially stems from the Harrod-Dormar model which proposes that the key component for economic growth and well being, is the input of capital i.e. big banks make big economies. Same ideology is behind all the foreign  loans and economic implementations that have failed in the past. The state of the Nigerian economy and the value of the Naira tells us the level of success of the move.

He argued that the consolidation of the banks would make it easier for CBN to effect policing. This notion is almost as hilarious as his installer, Obasanjo's excuse for increasing fuel prices in Nigeria as a deterrent to smugglers trafficking furl into the neighboring countries. The number of banks was not unmanageable, but rather that CBN officials were complicit in the doctoring of financial records  that is so rampant in the sector.

All we have to show for his tenure in office is the increased unemployment from his consolidation process, the poor state of the Naira, and the affliction of the stock market.

Hopefully they let someone else have a crack at the position. Cant understand why African never want to leave office.

I think there are several reasons why 'big girls' are unmarried. Like the poster said, some ladies made poor judgment calls earlier in life.

In addition, I feel the way boys and girls are raised does not help matters. Parents often raise their kids such that they are incompatible as a couple.
- The girl is 'protected' from male influence for the most part of her life and then given a short window of 3-5 yrs to find the right guy and close the deal, while the boys are allowed to interact with the opposite sex over a wider period.
- The girls are taught to be wary of flirts, while boys, if not encouraged, are indulged in having multiple girlfriends in sequence if not concurrently.
- The girl is taught to pursue her career so as not to be dependent on the man, while the boy is told that career women  don't make good wives, as they are less submissive
- A single girl  gets more pressure as she gets older, while a single guy is indulged in his excuse of trying to establish himself in life.

A lot of 'good' girls don't get hooked as they are inexperienced in relationships, and thus fail to see the hand writings on the wall early enough, or close the deal when needed. I have seen several cases who felt the last girlfriend was pressurizing (read nagging) them for marriage, only for them to be proposing in less than six months into the new relationship. There is definititely a method to the madness.

A lot of girls only think about what they need or want  in a relationship or the kind of guy they desire. They don't spend enough time contemplating what such a guy would want or need, and consequently don't have enough to offer such that the guy considers them for the long haul. I always advice my single female friends that knowing what you want in a man is half of the solution, the other half is making sure you have what he wants as well. Relationships are two-way streets, be prepared to bring something to the table.

Being successful career wise could definitely limit the sample space available to a lady, as men, mostly for their ego, want their wives to be less successful than they. Thus a few guys are intimidated and feel threatened by such ladies. Some men go as far as not wanting their wives to have an opinion in the relationship, preferring (as a colleague once said)" that her job is to keep her mouth shut, spend my money and look good". Of course most women too would rather marry a man that is more successful than they (at least until they start finding such men to be limited in availability)

The attitude of I don't need a man does not help. Do not point the gun if you have no intentions of shooting. Everyone likes a relationship in which they are needed. We are all born into the world as a single, and could probably survive without the opposite sex, but it is also well known that the right partner makes you a better being. If either does not need the other, then there is much less incentive to put ones best effort into the relationship. There is no shame (for either gender) in being dependent on your spouse/partner. It does not say you couldn't make it on your own, but rather that having that person take care of it makes you better person.  My mathematical view of marriage is that 1+1 =1 spiritually, and 1+1 > 2 physically and materially.

Some big girls are still single from no fault of theirs, but just for the simple fact that that is the card life has dealt them

baka!

So number what is he on this list?
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/10/billionaires-2009-richest-people_The-Worlds-Billionaires_Rank.html

It all depends on the courtship process. If you are the type that likes a 'passive' courtship in which you learn about your partner as a bye-product of the time you spend together, then you will likely need a length of time to get to know him/her. On the other hand, if you know what you are looking for, and actively interact with your partner towards determining if he/she is who you are looking for, then you would need less time and could be clear on your position in just a few months.

Irrespective of the length of time of courtship, there is always a side of your partner that you would see only after the marital vows. Courtship will never give you full disclosure.

Irrespective of sex and/or age, it is better to be single, than to be married to the wrong person, but there are very few things in life that are better than being married to the right spouse (and being single is not one of them). What is the point of it all, if you have no one to share the moments with, the good, the bad and the ugly. Life is much fuller when you have someone to share it with.

Being single at 30 is neither something to be ashamed of, nor is it something to be proud of. It is just what it is - you are single at 30. Every single person should work towards finding the right person, and don't kid yourself that you don't need a partner in life (opposite sex or otherwise). Do not be like the fox in Aesop's fable, who upon failing to find a way to reach grapes hanging high up on a vine, retreated and said: "The grapes are sour anyway!". It is easy to despise what you  have not gotten.

It is a shame how much pressure our society brings to bear on ladies when it comes to marriages. In a way I understand the position of the elderly, since in their time (because of arranged marriages, polygamy, and lesser role of women in society) being single above thirty was a rarity. For younger people, I have no excuse for their behavior. Single ladies should not be criticized for what most likely wasn't of their choosing.

A side issue is that if there are indeed more single ladies than men,  would society not have to accept either 'single women' or polygamy.

Anyways if you are single at 30, don't foolishly rush into a marriage. You will regret it sooner, rather than later, if you marry the wrong person. Keep searching, and improving on what you have to offer to the type of partner you desire. Hopefully life will deal you the right card in the not too distant future.

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Sisi salewa o, salewa
Sisi salewa re mi yeye
Pele oju re lo wu mi, ma ba lo
Bebere idi re lo wu mi, ma ba lo

Mo ti ri sisi kan lode
Mo ri sisi kan lode
O ni ki wa se ore ohun - Mo ni ma se ore re
O ni ki wa mo ile ohun aaah - Emi na ba lo mo ile e
O ni ki wo yara ohun - Emi na ba wo yara lo
O se mi ni alejo o ma koyoyo
O ni ki joko bedi - Emi na ba joko le bedi
O pe, o ni ka gbehin le ile - Emi na gbe ehin le ile
O ni ki fenu ko ohun lenu - Emi na ba fenu ko lenu
O pe, o ni ki n wa gun si aya _ Emi na ba gun si aya o
O fun mi ni eko meji, mo je ikan nibe,
Ti o bi di ojo ale, ma wa je ikan to ku
O ba ni ki n gba dodo mi si - Emi na gba dodo si
Oko mama sumo mi lepe, boya o le di omo
Haji mumuni!, eni o ba wa de yara, o mo ohun ti a se
Sisi sade mi o a
ile ola mi o dabo
Sisi sade mi atata

Mo ti ri sisi kan lode
O ni ki wa se ore ohun - Emi na ni ma se ore re
O ba ni ki n wa sun si aya - Emi na ba sun si aya e
Eni o ba wa de yara, o mo ohun ti a se
O miringidi lati oke de isale
Sale ye Salewa, Sale o Sale
Sisi sale re mi yeye - Salewa yeye o Salewa
O O Sale o - Salewa yeye o Salewa
Aunty Sale jaja de ile - Salewa yeye o Salewa
Mama e je eran o ni iyo - Salewa yeye o Salewa
Bi oko mama sumo mi lepe boya o le di omo - Salewa yeye o Salewa
Oh oh oh oh - Salewa yeye o Salewa
Aunty Sade mi O dabo - Salewa yeye o Salewa

Dr. Orlando Owoh and His African Kenneries Beats International
Vol. 1: Money For Hand Back For Ground
Side B Track 3-5:   Mori Sisi Kan L'Ode / Sisi Fola Shade / Salewaye Ye Salewa

Sisi salewa o, salewa
Sisi salewa re mi yeye
Pele oju re lo wu mi, ma ba lo
Bebere idi re lo wu mi, ma ba lo

Mo ti ri sisi kan lode
Mo ri sisi kan lode
O ni ki wa se ore ohun - Mo ni ma se ore re
O ni ki wa mo ile ohun aaah - Emi na ba lo mo ile e 
O ni ki wo yara ohun - Emi na ba wo yara lo
O se mi ni alejo o ma koyoyo
O ni ki joko bedi - Emi na ba joko le bedi
O pe, o ni ka gbehin le ile - Emi na gbe ehin le ile
O ni ki fenu ko ohun lenu - Emi na ba fenu ko lenu
O pe, o ni ki n wa gun si aya _ Emi na ba gun si aya o
O fun mi ni eko meji, mo je ikan nibe,
Ti o bi di ojo ale, ma wa je ikan to ku
O ba ni ki n gba dodo mi si - Emi na gba dodo si
Oko mama sumo mi lepe, boya o le di omo
Haji mumuni!, eni o ba wa de yara, o mo ohun ti a se
Sisi sade mi o a
ile ola mi o dabo
Sisi sade mi atata

Mo ti ri sisi kan lode
O ni ki wa se ore ohun - Emi na ni ma se ore re
O ba ni ki n wa sun si aya - Emi na ba sun si aya e
Eni o ba wa de yara, o mo ohun ti a se
O miringidi lati oke de isale
Sale ye Salewa, Sale o Sale
Sisi sale re mi yeye - Salewa yeye o Salewa
O O Sale o - Salewa yeye o Salewa
Aunty Sale jaja de ile - Salewa yeye o Salewa
Mama e je eran o ni iyo - Salewa yeye o Salewa
Bi oko mama sumo mi lepe boya o le di omo - Salewa yeye o Salewa
Oh oh oh oh - Salewa yeye o Salewa
Aunty Sade mi O dabo -  Salewa yeye o Salewa

Jide Chord - Romeo & Juliet
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Darling Ronke, darling Ronke, darling Ronke o, mo feran re o
Darling Ronke, darling Ronke, darling Ronke o, mo feran re o

Ololufe darling, o daju iwo ni ma fe
Je ki ife wa ki o dabi romeo and juliet
Ti won duro de ara won titi di ojo iku
Darling Ronke o, mo feran re o
Darling Ronke o, mo feran re o

Ololufe darling, o daju iwo ni ma fe
Je ki ife wa ki o dabi Juliet and Romeo
Ku si mi laya, ki emi na ku si e laya
Darling Jide o, jowo mo feran re o
Darling Jide o, mo feran re o

Romeo and Juliet, e se ara yin ni okan
Romeo and Juliet, e se ara yin ni okan
('tori) A n rin nile inu bi elesin
A n wo akisa, inu bi alaso
A n je efo sun, inu bi eleran
Darling Ronke/Jide o, ani mo feran re
Darling Ronke/Jide o, mo feran re

Mo ni iyawo kan ti mo feran pupo
Mo ni iyawo kan ti mo feran pupo
Bi inu ba n bimi, a be mi
Bi ebi pami, a nu mi
Adediwura ni ololufe mi

A ni oko mi, iwo ni ma fe o
A ni oko mi, iwo ni ma fe o
Ololufe mi, dakun ma ko mi o, iwo ni ma fe o
Ololufe mi, dakun ma ko mi o, iwo ni ma fe o

Iwo ni pasero mi - emi ni pasero re
Sebi iwo ni pasero mi - sebi emi ni pasero re
Ma se mi lese - emi ni pasero re
O my darling, omo bo wa - e se ara yin ni okan
O my baby, ola bo o - e se ara yin ni okan

A young executive was leaving the office at 6 p.m.when he found the CEO standing in front of a shredder with a piece of paper in his hand.
"Listen", said the CEO, "this is a very sensitive and important document, and my secretary has left. Can you make this thing work?"
"Certainly" said the young executive. He turned the machine on, inserted the paper, and pressed the start button.
"Excellent, excellent ! " said the CEO as his paper disappeared inside the machine. "I just need one copy".

Lesson I : Never, never assume that your BOSS knows everything.


A crusty old man walks into a bank and says to the teller at the window : "I want to open a damn checking account".
To which the astonished women  replies : "I beg your pardon, sir, I must have  misunderstood you. What did  you say?" 
"Listen up bitch ! I said I want to open a damn checking account right now !"
"I'm very sorry sir, but we do not tolerate that kind of language in this bank."
Having said this, the teller leaves the window and goes over to the bank manager to tell him about her problem customer.
They both return and the manager asks the old geezer "what seems to be the problem here?".
"There's no problem, sonny," the elderly man says. "I just won 50 million bucks in the damn lottery and I want to open a damn checking account in this damn bank!"
"I see," says the manager thoughtfully. "And you're saying that this bitch here is giving you a hard time?"

Lesson II : If you are RICH, you can get away with almost anything.


An American and a Japanese were sitting on the plane on the way to LA when the American turned to Japanese and asked, "what kind of -ese are you?"
The Japanese confused, replied. "sorry but I don't understand what you mean."
The American repeated , "What kind of -ese are you".
Again the Japanese was confused over the question.
The American, now irritated, then yelled, "What kind of -ese are you. ,  Are you Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, etc, "
The Japanese then replied , "Oh! I am a Japanese".
A while later the Japanese turned to the American and asked what kind of '-key' was he.
The American frustrated, yelled, "What do you mean what kind of '-key' am I?!"
The Japanese said, "Are you a Yankee, Donkee or  monkee?

Lesson III - Never insult anyone.

Bless me Father, for I have sinned. I have been with a loose woman."
The priest asks, "Is that you, little Tommy Shaughnessy?"
"Yes, Father, it is."
"And, who was the woman you were with?"
"Sure and I can't be tellin' you, Father. I don't want to ruin her reputation."
"Well, Tommy, I'm sure to find out sooner or later, so you may as well tell me now. Was it Brenda O'Malley?"
"I cannot say."
"Was it Patricia Kelly?"
"I'll never tell."
"Was it Liz Shannon?"
"I'm sorry, but I can't name her."
"Was it Cathy Morgan?"
"My lips are sealed."
"Was it Fiona McDonald, then?"
"Please, Father, I cannot tell you."
The priest sighs in frustration. "You're a steadfast lad, Tommy Shaughnessy, and I admire that. But you've sinned, and you must atone. You cannot attend church for three months. Be off with you now."
Tommy walks back to his pew.
His friend Sean slides over and whispers, "What'd you get?"
"Three month's vacation and five good leads," says Tommy.

A fool and his money are soon partying.

Money can't buy love. But it can rent a very close imitation.

Eagles may soar, but weasels aren't sucked into jet engines.

If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking.

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.

He who hesitates is probably right.

No one is listening until you make a mistake.

Success always occurs in private, and failure in full view.

The hardness of the butter is proportional to the softness of the bread.

To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research.

To succeed in politics, it is often necessary to rise above your principles

Two wrongs are only the beginning

The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up

A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory

If you must choose between two evils, pick the one you've never tried before

Change is inevitable, except from vending machines

Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow

Always try to be modest. And be damn proud of it!

If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple of payments

Everybody repeat after me, "We are all individuals."

Death to all fanatics!

Chastity is curable, if detected early

Love may be blind, but marriage is a real eye-opener

Bills travel through the post at twice the speed of cheques

Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now

Borrow money from pessimists - they don't expect it back

Beware of geeks bearing gifs

Half the people you know are below average

99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name

42.7 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot

A conscience is what hurts when all your other parts feel so good

If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving definitely isn't for you

ACCOUNTANT - someone who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing

ACTUARY - someone who brings a fake bomb on a plane because that decreases the chances that there will be another bomb on the plane. (Laurence J. Peter)

AUDITOR - someone who arrives after the battle and stabs all the wounded

BANKER - a fellow who lends you his umbrella when the sun is shining and wants it back the minute it begins to rain. (Mark Twain)

CONSULTANT - someone who takes the watch off your wrist and tells you the time

DIPLOMAT - someone who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you will look forward to the trip

ECONOMIST - an expert who will know tomorrow why the things he predicted yesterday didn't happen today

EXPERT - an individual who spends his entire life learning more and more about less and less until finally they know absolutely everything about absolutely nothing.

LAWYER - a person who writes a 10,000 word document and calls it a "brief." (Franz Kafka)

LECTURER - one who talks in someone else's sleep

MATHEMATICIAN - is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat which isn't there. (Charles R. Darwin)

PROGRAMMER - someone who solves a problem you didn't know you had in a way you don't understand

PSYCHOLOGIST - a man who watches everyone else when a beautiful girl enters the room

SCHOOLTEACHER - a disillusioned woman who used to think she liked children

STATISTICIAN - someone who is good with numbers, but lacks the personality to be an accountant

TOPOLOGIST - is a man who doesn't know the difference between a coffee cup and a doughnut

A husband and wife are getting ready for bed. The wife is
standing in front of a full length mirror taking a hard look
at herself.

"You know love," she says, "I look in the mirror and I see an
old woman. My face is all wrinkled, my boobs are barely above
my waist, my butt is hanging out a mile. I've got fat legs and
my arms are all flabby."

She turns to her husband and says, "Tell me something positive
to make me feel better about myself."

He thinks about it for a bit and then says, "Well,  there's
nothing wrong with your eyesight."

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A farmer goes to confession for the first time in twenty years
and tells the priest he's been having sexual intercourse with
a pig ever since his wife died. The priest asks him whether
the pig is a male or female.

The farmer says, "Female, of course. What the hell do you think
I am, some kind of queer?"

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"I'm prescribing these pills for you," said the doctor to the
overweight patient, who tipped the scales at about three
hundred pounds. "I don't want you to swallow them. Just spill
them on the floor twice a day and pick them up, one at a time."

Praye
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@poster
If you don't like the company your wife keeps, you could try exposing her to a different society.

The sex problem on the other hand is (very x8) likely your fault. Everyone can be responsive in bed if treated right. I advise you go and get some literature/tutoring on the matter. In the worst case, both of you might need to see a counselor.

@OP
O' boy, dis one hard o!
The poor lady was hoping for 'bamboo', only to discover (to her great disappointment) say na coco yam leaf.