₦airaland Forum

chidi2pus:
I still don't get it
quotes for what exactly ?
quote for supervision alone ?
or quote for supervision and labour ?

which will be more cost effective ?

Let me assume you're going to get an Engineer to do the work. Are you going to hand him your quote made by your QS?
Whoever you give the work to should give you a break down quote per stage of work to be done inclusive of supervision and Labour.

More so you are not expected to pay for a quote from your choice of Engineer /Architect/Contractor.

chidi2pus:
To all and sundry,

This is my first building project and I really need salient points on how to get the best bang for my money.
I already have the project design on ground; Architectural, Structural, Mechanical, Electrical and Bill of Quantities.

I am quite inexperienced, this is my first project.

I was advised by my Quantity Surveyor to engage a professional project supervisor and make him responsible for labour at the tune of 30% of the entire project budget(i.e his supervision fee + labour cost) and then the remaining 70% for building materials which i can procure myself.


The other alternative is to pay a project supervisor a fixed sum, engage labourers and also buy the materials myself.

His argument is; engaging labourers directly could be more expensive because i may be inexperienced with pricing and a lot of ghost workers would fall into the project.

I really need insights into this matter and i'm to begin kickoff this week.


P:S The project is a 6 bedroom duplex with external works such as pool, BQ, Gen house with a Tower post.

It's nice you have a quide quote from your QS. Kindly seek for 2-3 different quotes from a choice Civil/Structural Engineer or an Architect.
Compare such quotes to that given to you by your QS.
Select your preferred contractor and start bargaining per stage of work.
As regards getting materials yourself, if you consider self good at bargaining that will be needful. Certain materials get less prices when their quantities are higher.
Good luck on your project.

darenyx:
Will do sir..

Thanks, I appreciate

Rubbiish:
Looks like wooden door

It's completely PVC. As long as you don't have children that will punch holes into it then it will stand the test of time.

acunon:
Okay

The 50" plasma has the following

Port for Usb drive, AV, OPTICAL, HDMI, VGA, audio in and CI module

The LCD should have the same features as the plasma

Thanks

Good.

peterphd:
Hello house, I'm thinking of using PVC doors for my bathroom. I'm hoping to get some insight from experienced guys here. How good/bad is it? Durable? Thanks.

Cc skimanski, spyder880

Are you referring to something like this.

acunon:
Hi

You can get a 42" plasma from 55k and above(Samsung, LG and Panasonic)
You can get a 50" plasma from 65k and above (Samsung, LG and Panasonic)
You can get 46" LCD at 75K-90K depending on models

Thanks

Welcome.
Between the 50" plasma and 46" LCD; just give me a brief description especially if it has slot for usage of external hard drive, SUB,etc,etc....,,
I really appreciate

Good day
Please what's the biggest size with specifications of a TV I can get for #75k

slegerman:
Hello All,

I am looking to rent farmland up to 10 hectares within the above locations. if you have or you know who has, please comment.

Regards.

Land in Keffi-Nasarawa should be available.

bereiweris:
Gud evening Ogaz In d haus pls can d foundation of aw 4bedroom flat be done In 2days

Yes and No.
If you have the required number of people working it can be achieved.
But save for 3 days.

[quote author=darenyx post=43214184][/quote]Good Morning Bro.
Please can you forward to me the foundation plan of this building to "benavoh@gmail.com".
Will like to recommend it for a relative as a retirement plan based on discussions.
Was wondering what the minimum cost will be to put up the carcass?
Expecting your response soon as possible.

More so I still have a pending request you're yet to attend to.
Thanks

rotecch77:
@bixton, there will still be little sediment likely to be occure in small quantity in section A of the safety tanks
Although it will be increases as year goes on but it will take so many yrs before it will filled up, Moslty its foul water that do filled up most non sectional safety tank but in this case the foul water will be semi clean and sink down at suck away section of the system mostly in dry land area.

I guess one can add some layers of aggregate materials (sharp sand and granite) at the bottom of the suck away section to further reduce the pollution of the waste water to under ground water,etc,etc.

rotecch77:
END OF THE YEAR FREE TIPS ON BEST WAY
TO CONSTRUCT SUCK AWAY AND SAFETY
TANK THAT CAN LAST 50YRS BEFORE
EVACUATING IT

best way to construct this system for both residential and commercial buildings.

All water from the safety tank will later go to suck away plus water from bath all together which will then be sink down.


Dont be surprised the water from the safety tank foul water.(shit water) will become semi clean as that of bath water when it comes out from that last section of the safety tank without bad odour.


More details coming soon when i have much time to write how this system work.

More so i will send the current one am work on when i resume back to work

See the sketch

Is this likened to the logic behind sedimentation?

Dremca:
If Nigeria had central identification number like Social Security Number (SSN) all these wouldn't have been an issue. That's why banks hardly give loans to new businesses even with collateral.

We always down grade our Nigerian Security System.
Those areas with SSN still experience such.
Known businesses and individuals have been known to not pay loans given to them by banks.

Timtol:
i thank GOD this is coming at d very best time to add to my understanding.
PRAISE BE HIS NAME.
Was in a program yesterday and always busy as i use to wen a man called which never disclose his country in fact never ready to say his name.
He mobbed trying to introduce zigzagly,with wisdom GOD help me around dat.
HE SAID HE IS NOT IN THE COUNTRY BUT WILL BE BACK SOON,ASKING AND LOOKING FOR A CONTRACTOR WHICH AM WORKING TOWARDS NOT WILLING TO PUT MYSELF ONLY INTO THIS...I LATER ASK WHERE D PLOT IS AND HE SAID "ABIA"
FOR ME TO TRAVEL FROM MY LOCATION TO ABIA IS TOO FAR PLUS MY PADI(STRUCTURAL ENGR) WHICH IS IN LAGOS TO BE THERE TOGETHER IS TOO FAR.
I finally ask some other questions,d man now can feel straight in telling me his name but never tell d country he his cos i don't need to ask or was wat i did wrong?
ENLIGHTEN me.
PRESENTLY PLANNING TO CALL HIM WHEN AM LESS BUSY TO IRON THINGS OUT BETTER.

kindly share your minds with your experiences in such issues.

Do not let over anxiety rob you just because you get called with a foreign number.

Dremca:
If possible demand for official documents like CofO, Survey plan, driver's license/International passport and video call. Verify the documents and ensure you're dealing with a genuine client. It should a standard for top contractors.

Documents can all be verifiable and genuine and if the client has bad intentions then you're lost in oblivion.
Always ensure you inform at least 2 persons if you must move outside your location giving all relevant data of supposedly client.

Good Morning. Happy/Merry Christmas and a wonderful prosperous New Year.
More power to you all in your family and business.
Make the best out of the season and enjoy it.

darenyx:
Small plot design .. 3 bedroom bungalow .

Features
Living room
Kitchen
Dinning
Bedroom 1,2,3 all ensuite
Visitors toilet
Garage

Foot print 12.65m x 11.4m

Wonderful land management. It's cool.
Please kindly send me the design plan to "benavoh@gmail.com".
Thanks.

adanny01:
A builder is same as a contractor so he builds quite agreed.

The civil engineer checks for his design adherence.

The architect does the same as the civil engineer, makes sure his design and measurements are followed.

By the books in lay man's terms
Any thing that looks like a storey building then the civil engineer will have to check on any area where rods will be placed according to specifications on the designs.

The architect is more of aesthetics of the structure going according to what is revealed on his perspective.

true2home:
Honestly, the topic of supervision on site is the work of a PE( Project Engineer) and his team of inspectors. That's my job!!!. I do have a Civil Engineering degree but not needed to do this job.

The Civil Engineers designs the structural components
The Architect designs the functionality and aesthetics of the building
The Builder/Contractor does the construction.

Then, the client appoints PE and his inspectors to do the supervision PERIOD!!!

Are you running an advert?
Where did you get your certification as a PE?

ice4u999:
Then why not negotiate with the architect during the drawing stage to supervise the entire job but also have a builder on the side to mobilize the work team. That is what I have also done. I made my architect was always present during every structural work.

My previous post was about how it ought to be.
On a personal level......I go the engineering way and only in few instances I sought out an architect for his own perspective.

Rubbiish:
Yeah....U are right
But this is more like the hierarchy of the building team though, of which the architect is the head. But in reality, it is difficult to get these three professions concurrently on site, u may spend more on supervision dan the money for d building. Lol...Except for govt & major projects.

In Nigeria on private/personal projects it's only hard getting these 3 working concurrently when each individual wants a large chunk of the client's money to himself/herself. In another situation for a client with no fore knowledge in building, listening to these 3 might get you confused in the overall project.

Rubbiish:
What is the role of the builder sir?

Ideally supervision & building is to be done by a builder, while the architect & civil engr. visits the site occassionally to ensure what was designed on paper is strictly adhered to by the builder.
But this is nigeria, buildings are similar & require similar construction process. So any of the professionals with a good site training can comfortably execute most buildings without needing another party...

The builder supervises all workmen on site.
The civil engineer supervises the builder.
The architect supervises the civil engineer.

Daboomb:
This is way bigger and if you can do this for 55K, that means my estimate is very correct, with a lot of room for unforseen expenses sef.

Once you have an idea of what the material to use as well as the price is, you can figure out what range the total sum to put the wardrobe will be.

Truthinlife:
Hello Good Nairalnders,
I need your opinion bc a furniture maker is asking for 80k to produce each of this; I’m skeptical about the quote and need your advice since I want about 4 wardrobes (closets),
Thanks.

You can bargain with him.
I did this about a year ago for #55k, completely detachable.

darenyx:
We did this on a standard 120ft x 60ft plots .. 16 apartments (mini flats )

Nice work. More strength to your fingers.
Please can you kindly send this particular design floor plans to "benavoh@gmail.com.
Thanks.

alstacs:
Nor be so Oga mi. Your guys nor de try. Person ask simple question for 3 days no human reply am, person wey come reply became a victim or bashing and percussions... All professionals . The person that asked the question too became an object to be poached on with... contact me on whatsapp,... Send me a private email etc.
I was tempted to look at the topic of thread again and I knew this thread has been very educative and supportive. However these days, e be like say things don de change.

I hope I could post pix of my building projects someday.... I was focused, got better deals, knew what I was doing... All because of the information and support I got from this thread and the good people (not necessarily professionals) who were willing to share their experiences and knowledge.

We need to keep that going here. You can save a life!

Sorry to quote you.
But who are the professionals here?
Bro.....these so called NL have formed a habit of acting out character.
So someone asked a specific question w.r.t to specific names and none responded after 3 days and just because another responded and all the drama started.
If they even have the mind let them post here any of the quotes they gave to their clients on any recent work done and let others scrutinise it.
Amongst themselves they know what they are doing. I have at least gone through most of their online posted works and funny enough, those who know what they are doing are doing good and those who think they are doing JB work and using engineering terms to back it up for just no good reason just to impress their clients are only out to waste the client's money.


Wishing you all a wonderful day.

Happy Eid El Maulud in advance.

InvertedHammer:
Thanks for the insight.

It is not up to 100m. Other than risks of explosion and inferno, what else could be a problem? Other folks are putting up structures.
Just wondering...

The most important risk is the government of the day when they come knocking.
If you can get a CofO for that land/property from the governor/government then you can go ahead.

I can see NL super engineers questioning people's free quotes without countering such with superior quotes.

You are all well dones.

InvertedHammer:
Would you buy a piece of land adjacent to a pipeline? What does Nigeria's Land Use Act say about lands' proximity to a pipeline. The land is in PH. Any information will be highly appreciated.

Not too certain if there is a written law. But I think if your land in question is +100 meters away from the pipeline location then it's okay.

RichYoungRuler:
Hi Sir,
These designs happen a lot, I have done a number but didn't get to build them.
Truth is, the larger the span of the space in question the more expensive it is to go without internal support. It means you need to use members with great single or combined strength to be able to withstand the weight of the roof and other loads expected on it. Usually timber is out of the question.
Many of such design and construction projects may not have found themselves on Nairaland.

Respect Sir.
Your email has my response.

It's a mini estate drawing its power requirements from a combination of wind turbine and solar. Done and owned by a Nigerian who is into sustainable energy.