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goldenval:
I am not here to exchange word with you because I don't think it's matters at all because you don't know me but what I know is that, there is profit in betting business. I have made over $50000 from 1xbet alone and I never regret using the site because I always have my plans in a day. I can decide to play 1.3odd everyday which is very easy to get there and I will stake $200 and getting $60 profit everyday.

I don't go against my wish because if I do, that's greed and I might be loosing. Sometimes I will be playing 1.2 odd everyday for 30days and I will be making almost $1500 using my method because I am not greedy stakers.

This is the main reason why I don't like to comment anything here in this site because people are very wicked and ungrateful kind of enemy of progress. Instead of you to learn from the master you are here insulting me.. na wa oo. I am done.

This will be my last comment here.. let me continue being in my ghost mood.

Wagasigiungu:
Hello Sir(s) and Ma(s), please i would love to have your opinions about the below 4 bedroom bungalow plan. I would welcome ideas on positive and constructive criticisms (i wouldn't flinch on reading the negatives too), possible areas of modifications, possible estimated cost implications of taking on such a project (considering i am just a kobo-kobo earner and not in a rush to complete), would it be cost effective and durable to consider such roofing styles etc. Thank you all as you share your words of wisdom with a brother inspired by this thread and also aspiring to build a home for his growing family. One Love

rabcnesbit:
Thank you very much. Much obliged. Does the 6 bags for a 12 x 12 room include plastering the ceiling?

44chux:
I noticed you didn't bother to profile people either, when you tried to score a cheap point with Oga Hajji over pop thickness.

I will report you to Oga EgunMogaji

44chux:
See kettle calling pot black!
Since 2004? In construction or fixed odds?

rabcnesbit:
Hello, thank you for your advice. I am most grateful. You did not advise as to number of bags of cement that will be required. Also, what are the pros and cons of doing soakaway/septic as single unit as opposed to separate units (ie. which is better)? Also, channelling the waste water (from kitchen,laundry, bathing) to any existing drainage, is that legal, and will that lead to any potential problems in future? Many thanks

44chux:
Stop seeking relevance!

I shared my REX (Return On Experience). Do you have any?

Stick to giving construction cost estimates.

rabcnesbit:
Hello. The plot itself is 40m x 40m x 72.61m x 75.68m. I do not have the measurements for the individual sections of the building, but is a standard 4 flats (two flats up and two flats down), with each flat made up of 3 bedrooms with master bedroom being en suite, 1 bathroom/toilet, 1 visitor's toilet, living/dining room, kitchen, and small store. I am not after an accurate figure, just an estimate so that I have an idea of what it should be and thus not exploited by the artisans.

With regards to existing drainage, I am not too sure, but it is on a street with other residential buildings, and having residential buildings either side of the plot.

With regards to the septic tank and soak away pit, below is the plan with area for both indicated by the red arrow. Thank you

mybad:
I intend to do that alongside the drainage.
I've thought of a locally fabricated drainge that can serve same purpose.

rabcnesbit:
I will be grateful if I could get some advise regarding the following please.
The building is four flats of 3 bedroom flats (the usual two flats up and two flats down) located in Sango, Ota Ogun State.

(1) How many bags of cement roughly will be required to plaster the interior, and labour cost?
(2) How many bags of cement roughly will be required to plaster the interior ceiling (ground floor only), and labour cost?
(3) How many bags of cement to plaster the inside of the boundary wall/fence (wall surrounds two plots), and labour cost?
(4) Balancing cost and durability, what kind of surfacing should I do for the compound? I do not need anything fanciful, just something practical, durable and best value for money.
(5) What size septic tank will I require and roughly how much will that cost?

Thank you.

44chux:
Am struggling to get ur point

mybad:
Hello House,

The experience of the rainy season has been terrible,
Having caused flood (storm water) in my compound.
I've decided to do a drainage system to stall further occurence.

I don't however have an idea of how to design this.
How to get seives for the drainage points like in the picture below especially, is a mystery.

I'll appreciate the expert advise from nairalanders to lay the challenge to rest.

44chux:
I don't know the difference oohh. I thought engineering was the commercial application of science and technology to make economic sense.

My reasoning is subjective and maybe biased shaa.

For the economic perspective, I arrived at the conclusion due to retrospective calculations on the cost per milestone analysis made from the comfort of my bed over a mortuary cold bottle of blue label .

For the engineering perspective, I used three unscientific uncontrolled and random events as my base.

I started moulding blocks and bricks with stonedust but when I ran out of stonedust, I fellback to sharp sand. During the drop test after 28days I thought the stonedust blocks broke in slightly larger chunks than the sharpsand blocks, but since this was done for fun in an uncontrolled environment, I can't know if placebo effect was in play.

When the time came for demolition of a part built with a mix of stonedust and sharpsand, my boys couldn't tell the difference, so I assumed the strength diff was marginal. Also I noticed when the sharp sand had the slightest contamination of clay or silt, it produced rough edges on the bricks cause it easily chipped off while because the stonedust was homogeneous, this didn't happen in with it

The third was feedback from a leaking roof from a water tank placed on the deck that was cast with stonedust.

So, as you can see, I was only airing my personal feelings

44chux:
Stonedust is better when cost is not an issue.

There was only a marginal increase in strength achieved by using stonedust. And compared to the cost, it was waste as such strength could also be achieved by vibrating the blocks.

It would only make sense in areas where sharp sand sourcing is challenging.

For casting, adding a waterproofing additive (just to N700/bag then) was more effective compared to stonedust waterproofing ability.

Daboomb:
This topic has always been of interest to me and l will use this opportunity to express my opinion.

There are so many costs associated with building on a Swamp land, and l am talking from vast personal experience!

Let us start with "access" to your and itself: Due to the nature of the soil, articulated vehicles (20-30Ton Trucks, e.t.c) will definitely sink and get stuck in the murky ground when they come to deliver Iron, Granite, Sand and Cement. this will not only increase your cost, it will waste your time and other suppliers will simply refuse to deliver to your site or do it a few hundred metres off and you have to pay Mallam to re-locate the stuff to your compound.

Foundation: Depending on "how swampy" the swampy land really is (swamp pass swamp! My Piles were about 70ft deep, before it could sit on stable ground! ), and how elaborate your foundation foot-print is and how top-heavy your building will be, you could be talking not just using a raft foundation but using a Pile foundation.

Anything beyond a Bungalow on a 'serious swampy land', needs a Pile foundation.
That could mean a price range of between #8M - #12M (Pile) and #4M - #6M (Raft), +- 10%.
That amount itself is enough to finish the whole Carcass on a very dry land.

Wear and Tear: Houses built on Swampy land need a lot more maintenance over the years, if they are to maintain their good looks.
For example, cost of your Soakaway will be far higher compared to one located on a dry land.
The rate at which you will need to evacuate such will also be higher
Paint will peel-off quicker because of the high humidity around it and this itself is attributable to the high water table in that location.

Having said all the above, like @Egunmogaji has mentioned, if you get a swampy land in a posh location, overlooking a river or lake/ocean, the "scenery" will more than compensate for the cost.
You will breath fresher air, you will watch the Ducks criss-cross the Waterfront, you will hear the birds wake you up in the morning with their sonorous "jazz" songs, you will likely eat fresh fish right out of the river (and buy it cheaper too!), e.t.c

Thing is, not everyone can build in a riverine area due to the cost, you need very deep pockets.
If funds are limited, please take your time to look for upper ground areas outside mainland (you can still get cheap, red soil (upper ground) land at about #15M -#20M in some areas of Mainland, old houses you can demolish and rebuild); Places like Agege, Oke-Ira, Between Festac and Badagry areas, e.t.c can still offer cheap, red soil grounds.

There is even a salutatory catch-phrase in my area, for those who build solid houses on a swamp land - Olowo'nuura
Translated to mean something like 'Wealthy enough to build on Swamp'


My final suggestion: Let him not hurry but take his time to look for a dry land outside Mainland, even if he has to buy half a plot.
Building on Swamp land is a life long expense, it takes boldness and deep pockets to do so.

BTW: Land in places like Lekki/Ajah are not swamp. They are Sandy soil with just a little layer of brackish, wet soil on top.
Those areas are even cheaper to build on, compared to 'real Mangrove Swamp"' that you will encounter on the Mainland, in places like Unilag, Makoka, Iwaya, Bariga, up to Ketu, e.t.c.

chukzyfcbb:
Good day sir ,pls I need your expertise opinion.

Getting a dry land in Lagos in a fairly good area on the mainland and at a fair price is tough.
However, My P-man is considering a swamp land but I am strongly against it because of the cost of raising foundation.

The swamp land will cost a whole lot of money, and so I am scared of foundation cost

pls sir, what's the least price of constructing a raft foundation in a place like Lagos (mainland).
The knowledge of that will help him rethink his decision, hoping for your reply and others too thanks

Adextunji:
ok, I appreciate it Bixton.

Adextunji:
ok, thanks, like said, at least 25- 27M should finish it, till furnishing level.

diordaves:
Hajji there is no market for fakes. Nobody will deliberately seek out to buy fake products. There is a market for top end product, middle range and bargain range. A product can still be bargain range and still be safe and serve the purpose. There are also branded products and generic products. The fact that it is a generic product and cheap doesn't mean its not safe to use.

The problem is passing off unsafe dangerous products for branded products and charging top end price in some cases. So the consumer is not to be blamed as the consumer is willing to pay accordingly thinking they are getting the real deal. Where the consumer pays lower or go bargain hunting, this doesn't mean the consumer is encouraging fake product but buying with trust that the product is a generic product which is expected to be cheaper. There is branded paracetamol and generic paracetamol. Generic paracetamol is cheaper, safe and serve the same purpose as the branded; so if the consumer goes in search for generic paracetamol doesn't mean the consumer is encouraging fake market.

Those importing unsafe products can as well import cheaper safe generic products and charge appropriately. It is the greed of importers that encourage fake market, not consumers. If the importers don't import fake products, I don't think the consumer will clamour for fake products, they will buy happily what's available in the market: genuine top range, middle range or safe generic as your power reach. This is the case in developed world.

Adextunji:
the level of the land is below ground level of existing road. U can make use of the floor plan to get the dimensions, note that the block work excavation is 675mm wide for 9inchs block, aside the column excavation that is 1500mm wide.

Adextunji:
I appreciate that Bixton, did you see the foundation detail you asked for, the site is located in Beckley estate, Abule-Egba, Lagos.

Adextunji:
Thanks Bixton, I have sent the foundation details. On the estimate, 25-27mill will finish the building.

Adextunji:
Bixton I appreciate that, what about rough estimate of plastering, roofing and furnishing, I mean plumbing, electrical installation, other materials like kitchen cabinet, wadrobes, toilet materials and so on.

DUNKA:
Goodday house please how many plots is in 3,040 square meters?

francmoda:
Veterans in the house, I greet u all...I have been following this thread since inception and have really learnt a lot.. I would like to post my Archi drawing here for critical analysis and possibly price estimate for my first milestone (foundation to first deck)... location...PH

Ground floor

EgunMogaji:
Nigerian Police should be arriving to pick up the dead bodies of armed robbers. We'll solve the issue of security to a reasonable extent.

They need to legalize guns for responsible citizens.

Adextunji:
I knw what u were saying, I don't hv time to search for it, dats Y I wrote it out.

Akorkor:
Thank you. I just paid him 150k. I was just feeling somehow that's why I asked. Thank you for your insight

Adextunji:
k, the foundation is 1500mm deep, and the column base is 1500mm, there will be some filling to be done also. I will appreciate ur response with the estimate.

Akorkor:
Hello Gurus in the house,
Please like how much do you think as a payoff for someone that has been monitoring your project for you.

Note: We started just like a friend and he did a good job for me. We didnt sign any contract and am also sure he gained a lot from the project.

Its actually 2bedroom flat with three seperate room and parlor self contained. Thank you. . Payoff with #100k. But if you take the person as a friend take the person to a joint/bar get some drinks,take some pepper soup,etc,etc get into a discuss and later give the person #50k.