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Adextunji:
The land has a solid composition, it has a level topography. I will appreciate ur quick response.

Thanks

. The proper plan to send is the "foundation layout" plan. Kindly send that to benavoh@gmail.com.

Adextunji:
Hello guys, I am planning a project, a 7 unit of 2 bedroom flat with a shared toilet and bathroom, and a 5 bedroom duplex ensuit, with a study and a bar. The full building is 27000mm by 12000mm. I need estimate from foundation.

. Send your design plans to get estimation and what's the nature of your land to know the type of foundation most suitable.

52JWBXH

mufutau55:
I made sure the plates/boards he used in forming the POP is that thick. You want to get into all the hoola-hoops, go ahead.

Hajji M.

. Okay, Okay.

Financeguru1:
To All Mentors/Professionals in the House, I salute ooo.

Please, I need guidance on the following:

a. what is the average labour cost to pay a moulder of interlocking stones per square meter?

b. what is the average labour cost to pay a moulder of interlocking stones per bag of cement?

c. what is the average labour cost to install the interlocking stones per square meter?

Many thanks for your responses.

. Interlocking stones ---#200/sqm to install the locks.

myvic70:
House please how much is good for a bricklayer to build 3 bedroom from foundation to roofing. Mine gave me quote of 300k.
please i need glue because i am just trying to start small.

Thanks

. Get your plan and do a rough estimate of total number of blocks to erect the structure, have an idea of how much it costs to lay a block or how many many blocks to lay a day based on daily pay rates and do your maths. Since you don't intend to do german floor immediately i'll advice you do chaining with R12(most preferred) or R10 done at the height of your DPC before you continue with block work. Chaining is usually done at all areas the blocks will run but if you're looking at cash constraint kindly run your chaining at all external walls and major walls cutting across the building.

mufutau55:
Oh Yes! More reason I bought my own materials to ensure proper gauge is used. I was told 8mm-10mm is good enough.
So, mine was 10mm with adequate supervision.

Hajji M.

. 8mm-10mm is an approximate of about 0.31-0.39 inches. Please can you clarify how you intend doing a supervision for such and what kind of POP artisan produces a POP board below the standard? What I know concerning POP when it comes to dimensions/thickness is CORNICE and it comes in 4-6 inches thickness. Artisans will generally give you a 4inch cornice and it all depends on the design you want your POP board to be.

marygold:
Please l have been a silent follower here.I am at the pop stage of my building.I am getting a quote of N3000 per square meter for cost of POP.Please is this a fair deal?

. I want to assume that price is both material+workmanship. Nonetheless you can still beat the price down some measures of garri.

darenyx:
15 rooms hotel

Features
Ground floor :
Reception
Bar/restaurant
Kitchen
Toilets
Stairwell
Gym
Offices
3 rooms
.
First floor
12 rooms with terrace
Private bar
Open roof terrace bar

Parking space: 10 cars

External dimensions : 26.4m x 17.550m
Plot size : 100ft x 100ft

.Nice design. Good for the beach area.

twinskenny:
working a house in badagry... the block is superb. the owner requested for stone dust not just sand to make the block for him.. stone done + sand + cement.

those blocks are super strong

. When clients make such request it's quite obvious they are ready to make the financial implication. You can also make blocks using fine aggregate 3/8"(coarse)+ sharp sand+cement+ water (curing). Mix ratio and water for effective curing is very important no matter the type of aggregate used. There is also a special kind of sharp sand used in block making (i've seen and used it only in PHC).
As regarding grasses growing on interlocking stones, you can continue to apply herbicides on the affected area ( you can ask for herbicides for narrow leaves in the market).

3YTCG65

InvertedHammer:
Someone who lives in Lagos and gets most contracts in Enugu or PHC needs to relocate ASAP.

Some logistics are sourced locally.

A contractor that will need a loan for $6000 to purchase such equipment in Nigeria is still an errand boy. You buy such equipment as things progress not at inception. Machinery, when managed well, pays for itself over time.

My only concern is unemployment.

. Any body who's into one form of business or the other is certainly an errand boy. Unemployment is not an excuse, as technology improves and ideas expand it is bound to occur. In order to run an actual company that intends to expand you need to conform to certain economic principles, et al. Except the company is being run by the same CEO,same accountant, same cashier, same procurement officer, same secretary,etc,etc.

InvertedHammer:
The landing cost of a cheap one from Harbor freight will be less than $6000 (including clearing). A lot of contractors can afford it but will never buy it. They will rather add more cars to their fleet.

Then and again, if you buy it and put a lot of workers out of work, you may wake up one day and backhoe will be up in flames. Double wahala! So let them dig. There is no rush in Nigeria. African time reigns supreme. You can hurry up the excavation, start construction and oga shows up a month later to state that he/she is out of funds. So why the rush?
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. So much for contractors. Yea Yea Yeah. Not too many considerations. You acquire an excavator at $6000. Your company resides in Lagos, you get a contract to build a duplex in PHC or Enugu at about +#12M. You have a company car for your team, you transport your excavator and all machines to the site (by road or air is your choice), you get an apartment for your team to settle in an prepare the schedule for the work at hand. What exactly is the running and operating costs of your company per annum and what exactly is your take home after all deductions? You pick a loan today at about 20.5% interest and in less than 3 months time the bank writes to inform you about an increment to 28.2% due to CBN this and that. What would you do? Let's really be realistic here.

KolaShangOne:
This scenario plays out when you're watching a football match and everyone becomes a coach. put them on the pitch and they're tired and can't kick a single ball after 5 minutes

In the discussion, no one has mentioned foundation depth yet. 5 labourers may finish digging the foundation if they're just scraping the surface but for a standard foundation with pad footings etc, 1 labourer will finish only about 6-8m in a day and it is NOT possible for 5 people to finish 2 units in 3 days not to talk of 1 day.

Let's be realistic

. Except the contractor is trying to kill time on the site for reasons be known to him; WHY will any one use 5 people to dig 2 units of an apartment with pad footings? Standard depths are +3ft and greater depending on the structure to be erected and soil type. Every land has a right tool for its work to be carried out with the proper manpower. What is your estimated perimeter that would make you take 5 days to excavate a foundation trench?

darkweb:
That Girona match seems fixed to me...look at the odds for "draw"

. Pretty much one of the funny odds have come across this year but it's cool. X/2. (HT/FT).

Okebarn:
thanks boss.

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darenyx:
Send a mail to darenyxaid@gmail.com let me send you a sample design

BR .

. Ok. Email sent. Thanks.

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spyder880:
5 laborers to complete the excavation of a large mansion in 1 day and you pay them N2k each?

Sir, let us do an open challenge for the world to judge. I have a new foundation coming up this month, I have not fixed the starting date yet. Location is Enugu outskirts. Can I give you N100,000 to pay boys for the excavation and another N20,000 for you or anybody you choose to be on the grounds as supervision fees, here is the challenge.

If you can use N120k to deliver this foundation pegging and excavation till column bases are completed in 4 days, I will cough up another N100,000 as fine paid to you for winning the challenge, but if you cannot beat the deadline, you pay me just N10,000? What do you say Sir?

. Nice challenge indeed.

Assuming your project is a 4 bedroom bungalow all en suite.
Day 1: Setting Out and Excavation
Day 2: Complete Excavation and proceed with blinding of foundation trench.
Day 3: Form work and raise block to foundation level (4-5 blocks course depending on the topography of the land and level to existing road).
Day 4: Iron bending work starts if your house is using concrete facial/parapet,etc,etc,etc.
Day 5: Carpenter boards column points, etc,etc.
Day 6: Back filling of the foundation starts.
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What exactly does "Setting Out" entails if the person doing it is not actually doing the supervision of the project entirely?

Badgers14:
Allow me to agree with you. The way "some" contractors puff out there chests these days eehn, everyone is a professional.

Some that "learned" work will be providing a quotation like someone with Ph.D in Civil engineering and 20 years experience.

The one that drives me nut was back when dollar was exchanged at 512#. I bought a bag of cement for N2500, 16mm rod for N3,900 now dollar is in the N300's , the prices of materials have gone up.

This still got me shaking in my shoes, what kind of economics is that? I bet Adam Smith will be perplexed as well.

Adam Smith's did not take Nigeria into consideration when coming up with his economical explanations.

Aventures:
2 carpenters will complete a room in a day perfectly. Deduce best price from that. Hope it helps.

. Based on a 3.6*3.6m space or which and what per day working rate is he supposed to deduce?

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. Does your company offer direct insurance for both driver and truck ( not 3rd party insurance) on the job?

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RipVanWink:
hello gents,
am a newbie here. tried searching , no show

want to fence 100ft x 100ft land, dwarf fence, say about 5ft, am assuming 2coaches in the ground and 3 or 4 coaches on the surface.
would appreciate a rough estimate and breakdown of the cost, or even better someone who has fenced recently could gimme his total cost, i may be able to extrapolate.

2ndly, i intend to use 3 locks to form the spine of the fence, placed every 10ft apart, btw using block as spine and using iron rod and concrete, which is better or preffered?

. I hope you'll get my drift on what you want to do. 100ft*100ft[30*30m]. Fence line =116m(gate entrance removed). 9"/6" blocks needed=1600. Coarse(3/8" sand/single axle= 2 trips. You have about 30+ points to put columns(pillars points). Sharp sand(single axle)=2 trips. Get Y12 or Y10mm for column points and quarter rods as stirrups. Excavate 18", blind with only coarse(3/sand+ cement or coarse+sharp sand+cement for blinding. Mortar mix(1:3/1 bag of cement:3 parts wheel barrow sand measure). For blinding/pouring of columns use 1:3(cement+coarse sand) or 1:1:2(cement+sharp sand+coarse sand). For 9" blocks(2 bags of cement to set 100 blocks) for 6"blocks(1.5 bags of cement to set 100 blocks).

darenyx:
Noted, will get to you shortly

. Okay.

44chux:
Am neither here nor there as mileages always differ.

A competent contractor might under-bid a contract ( called the winners curse) due to fear of the competition. He now delivers substandard services to make ends meet as long as he suspects the client might not notice. This does not make him incompetent. I can site multinationals that do this and/or put in variations at the least excuse.

On the other hand, an incompetent contractor, believing it in his best interest to please his client with world class service in order to secure a more lucrative contract, might deliver better services even as far as subcontracting to competent hands.

It is mostly dependent on how the client is perceived: a terminal contract / relationship vs a contract that opens Doors , a knowledgeable and deligent client vs an all assuming trusting one, an affluent but stingy client vs a struggling average income earner.

. Whoever the client or contractor may be, variations are most likely entertained when the scope of a job are increased or expanded.

johnson232:
How do u mean by the bold? this is a faceless forum, don't be afraid...

Why i really don't take this issue of bad contractors seriously on NL is because the few good ones we have aren't even getting jobs as it ought to be...So who is now awarding contracts to the bad ones? Everybody keeps making reference to brabus, even those who didn't give him any single thing to do keep shouting brabus the bad contractor. We have good contractors like Abdulwastecx & podosci, dubemcapital, spyder, aventures, skimanski, koloshangone...etc they are many, u don't need to spend months on NL to single them...If the good ones to me doesn't seem to be getting more than enough contracts, were do even the bad ones get contracts from? Everyone will begin to scream brabus...even among the 12 disciples....there was Judas...

. Certainly no one should be afraid..........the good,the bad and the ugly all know themselves.