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haddeylium:
Lol
No joke . That's the truth.
You need to know the difference first then we move.

Jesus is a spirit being ( not human) in his prehuman existence.. Agreed?

I hope you've refuelled and filled your wisdom tank to the brim this time around.

Like I said - I will not say anything about his prehuman existence. You will need to come from another angle.

Perhaps, we should iron out 1corinthians 15:45 and see how it gels perfectly with the truth of Christ Jesus ressurected. Before that, I really need to ask the following questions:

1. When did Jesus the Christ become the Last Adam?

2. Do angelic creatures actually have bodies?

3. At what point is a person born again?

4. What is a quickening (life-giving) spirit?
Cc: Emusan, MuttleyLaff, MaxInDHouse, Ken4Christ and haddeylium.

haddeylium:
Lol.
Until you know the difference between Human and spirit being.
You'll continue to be in this state

Coward.

MaxInDHouse:
They were depicted as humans without wings doesn't mean they're going to heaven as humans, the winged creatures depicts the angels who were created like that from the beginning but as for those without wings, they're the born again Christians who have now become like angels {Luke 20:36} So it's you and your cohorts that has been getting yourselves confused all along JWs knew what we believe.
I've told you from the beginning that it's not all of us that's gifted with the spirit of teaching but all dedicated JWs have the needed wisdom!

Humans are like apes, it doesn't make them ape-creatures, they remain humans!
Until you sustain the wisdom to tell me the kind of being they truly became, your doctrine remains an error.
(You should have come for haddey's rescue when we were engaging each other. The only person that stood with him I.e. jano', was a minus and he(Jano') lost it in no time and had to scamper for crumbs)

MaxInDHouse:
Note that the humans are now superior to those angels because angels aren't going to rule with Jesus. So they are dressed like human kings who will sit around God's throne sending angels on errand to do one thing or another for their subjects on planet earth!

Good! You've corrected yourself.

Emusan:
If you said so!

Haba! All I did was ask questions i needed answers to. You could have just typed "1 bla bla bla and verse so so so", and I will go check it out myself.

Emusan:
I gave it above!

Check again, you didn't.

Thread closed!

achorladey:
na every Spirit Being dey get wing?


So the one that does not have WINGS in your publication is WHO?


And the ones That do have wings in the same PUBLICATION are called what?

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Emusan:
And you wrote "understood" below which means you didn't understand.

Okay.

Christ isn't coming to earth!

Bible verse please.

achorladey:
You go laugh tire today

Jesus is materializing in HEAVEN too as it seems from the IMAGE BELOW .

Laugh wan kill me die...
Savage!

They asked him to materialize and pose for them, so they can draw him.

achorladey:
The below is for you. What did you SEE? A man or an ANGEL?


The corulers aka 144,000 are, MAN or ANGELS. They never cease to AMAZE

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LMAO!

JWs be like - Achorladey, if you don't belong to us, you can't understand our pictures.

Emusan:
The new earth which is called New Yahrusalem!

Christ will hand over to his Father so that God may be ALL IN ALL

Everyone, including Christ and his 144,000 are returning to earth to live forever, right?

PHILLIPS: Nevertheless, when everything created has been made obedient to God, then shall the Son acknowledge himself subject to God the Father, who gave the Son power over all things. Thus, in the end, shall God be wholly and absolutely God. 1 Corin 15:28

Let me add Benson commentary so that you can grab the point:

Benson Commentary

1 Corinthians 15:28. When all things shall be subdued — Or, rather, subjected, (as υποταγη properly signifies,) unto him, and there is no longer need of a prophet to teach, nor of a priest to make atonement and intercede, nor of a king to deliver, protect, and govern under God, the Father will resume the government; and then, even the Son himself shall be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God — Or the Godhead; may be all in all — May be over all beings, in all places, and the immediate object of their worship and service. Or rather, may be all things in and to his intelligent creatures, saints, and angels, by a full communication of himself to them, and an intimate union with them.

Understood.

I don't understand!

What is the NEW HEAVEN and the NEW EARTH.
What will happen to the old heaven and the old earth?
Is it a reformation or a recreation?

You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?"

22If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.

Emusan:
We are not going to LIVE FOREVER in heaven but be in heaven until the whole process of God's salvation has been accomplished.

Afterwards, where do we all go to live forever?
(do include, where Jesus the Christ also go)

There will be a NEW heaven and a NEW earth! Says the Holy scripture.

Ehen?

haddeylium:
If that your definition gives you good sleep
make do with it

The "particular, yet true definition" is yours to make. It doesn't affect my sleep.

Emusan, and any other interested person - can you give me bible verses that expressly shows that man will live forever in heaven?

haddeylium:
I would prefer getting your definition instead.

Lol. Since a particular, yet true definition of man will make you concur to the fact of Christ Jesus resurrected and abideth continually as a man, then I'm cool.

haddeylium:
it depends on your definition of Man

Do tell me your definition of man.

haddeylium:
Evening!

Does Jesus abide continually as a man in heaven?

haddeylium, what's up?

Xoly:
Thank you so much

I was a click away from telling you the same thing legend said.
I will add this - you are too clingy.

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MaxInDHouse:
The temple was destroyed when Jesus breathe his last on the torture stake, that's why the large curtain dividing the holy from the most holy was ripped from top to bottom! Matthew 27:50-51

After that day whatever worship is offered inside that Temple now amounts to idolatry, God is not interested in their Temple nor sacrifices anymore
After Jesus' resurrection anybody who wants to worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob acceptably must join the Christians wherever they are. So it was the spiritual Temple he was talking about not his human body!

How does a man that DOES NOT HAVE A SPIRIT worship A SPIRIT God in a SPIRITUAL temple?

Cc: Janosky, haddeylium

Truvel, pay your tithe to me. I'm a qualified priest of the new covenant, and I will help you provoke the blessings of Abraham.

iLegendd:
Lol. Only God knows everything. I'm as clueless as Buhari. So, tell me more.

To be honest, I need his guidance.

iLegendd:
Who is a lazy person? The best definition gets 1k recharge card.

A lazy person is a person that does not work while the others work.

There is the smart type and the unwise type - you can always differentiate with the results they produce.

1. Professional typist
2. Graphics designer

Who will I like to work with?
iLegendd

Why?
Well, he knows why.

Na dem.

Janosky:
**[b]1)
John 17:5
"Father glorify me at your side with the glory that I had before the creation of the world"

John 17:24
" Father I want those you have given me to be with me where I am,
in other that they may look upon my glory you have given me"

The Question Blabbermouth is dodging:
John 17:5,24 Where did Jesus had the glory given him before the creation?

1. Glory is not a space-defined something. If you are above angels, you are above angels on earth, in heaven, the milky way and everywhere else.
Janosky, learn something new - Glory is not a realm-dependent concept.

2. Where? No problem, I will let the Master himself speak

John 17:8
For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
According to your folly of believing you are glorified in a particular place -

1. According to the above scripture Jesus was INSIDE God before the world was created.
Jesus had the glory before the creation of the world INSIDE God!
You see your life?

2. According to Janosky's folly - Since the glory he had before the world was WAS INSIDE God, when Jesus will be glorified again with that same glory, He will be glorified inside God
You see your life again? Shey you know what the above means, don't you?

Bonus: Since the disciples will be anywhere Jesus is, and Jesus himself is going back into the father to go and reclaim his glory, the disciples will also go into the father to see Jesus' Glory
You see where your folly has led you?

Like I said from the beginning, in the quest for truth, you will be needing a lot of Wisdom!
Which one do you have in you? That of God or of mere men?

Where will the disciples be with Jesus to " look upon my glory"?

Anywhere he (Jesus) is.

Luke 24:26 "enter into his glory", where ?

From the moment he rose, he has begun to enter into that glory he spoke of. Newsflash! He hasn't fully entered into that said glory, as there are still things he needs to complete in his ministry.
I'm sure you don't know what " glory" is.

John 17:5,24 says Blabbermouth has ZERO locus standi for his twisting of Luke 24:26.

I do see you in other threads, many times rushing to using lexicon and Greek translations to prove a point or force a stalemate in discussions.
I thought there was much weightiness in you, and you might not just be another barrel with no content. I was wrong! I have entered you and seen there is actually nothing there.

Do you know what you are doing right now? You are trying to divert and force another argument to cover up the mess your nonsense doctrine has put you in.

**2.
Diversionary tactics,Bros.
What has Ephesians 4:22-24 got to do with Confusianism?

To claim your New Man is a spirit person is as DUBIOUS as the FALSE claim that the New Earth is in spiritual realm

Here are examples of New Man
1. Apostle Peter
2. John
3. Apostle Paul
4. Stephen.

Changing your habit, trying to live a good life, or trying to be righteous will never make you A Peter, A John, A Paul, A Stephen.

Go figure, what makes Peter - peter is not his changing of habit or his own endeavor to live a righteous life.

Tip: There are principal things the 4 of them share in common, dig it out yourself and you will knwo who the NEW MAN is and what He is made of.

I could have taken my time to expound the NEW MAN to you, but then, it will just be giving a herbivorous animal some meat.

PS: You are boring, I won't reply you again.

Janosky:
Is the bolded rocket science?

John 4:24 = Hebrews11:6 and John 17:17/Hebrews4:12,16.

In a nutshell, in spirit - Hebrews11:6.
In truth, John 17:17/ Hebrews4:12,16/ 2Tim3:16.

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Oh no, no, no, no, no!
Please someone should read that Hebrews 11:6, I am LMAO here! Janosky don kill me o!

I want to believe you still know what you are doing, go ahead and explain Hebrews 11:6 as to what I asked you - How does a man (that DOES NOT HAVE SPIRIT) worship a SPIRIT God in SPIRIT?

Make e no look like say JW run when them see better wisdom, you walked up the podium trying to answer an impossible question (for JW), now you have confused your own self and entered into a dungeon you will never get out of.