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Broveens42:
This sounds rather dumb... would I call this lack of proper education or effect of too much movies?
Typical of black people...all they know is kill...kill...kill..

This whites you are talking about prefer the use of propaganda (sometimes, turning agitating members against their leaders) they have proven that over and over...

I don't expect much.

No facts to disprove my points just lame talk.

Crap.

He would still have followers as long as they have ppl with poor reasoning.

That's how most of the famous cult leaders of the past started.

victorazy:
Stop saying what you don't know or sure of.

Nnamdi is released because of the affiliation between Queen Eliza who is no more there to corroborate with Buhari and North.

The death of Queen Elizabeth will ravel so many things.

What a stupid comment.

I feel bad seeing grown men talk like kids without brain.

No wonder whites look down on us.

The Late queen is against MNK as you guys want us to believe, but your MNK has UK passport and lived their comfortably, if Queen wanted him dead it would take M16 less than 30mins to do it.

If they killed Diana than who is MNK they cannot deal with.

Abeg reason b4 talking dey shame 4 una talk.

[quote author= post=117533015]FOR ALL THE INNOCENT IGBOS that this cownu caused to kill, he will never ever end well in life.
For all the families he caused to cry for their loved ones, their cries will mber depart from his life.
Brutal end awaits Cownu and all his brainwashed cannibals, terrorists and online bastards.
All the people in support of deaths of innocent igbos and other Nigerians will never witness the end of this year.
As long as God lives.

MIRACLE NWOBODO and other innocent igbos killed by cownu and his murderers.
May all your souls Rest in Perfect Peace.
Your blood will surely cry for you in due time.

If you want to be unfortunate and die brutally soon,
Quote this post to type rubbish.


We Rise.[/quote]I Concur.

Pastorjohn2:
You can't live a life of sin and think God will grant you a long life.

After committing premarital sex and so many abominations, God has finally come to deliver his wrath upon him.

Let this server as a strong warning to others!

REPENT

What a stupid comment.

If that was God's judgement on him, why has God not killed or judged those worst than him?

Ppl like you bring shame to christainity.

Kobojunkie:
Stop right there and try to pay attention.

Again, what I presented is what Jesus Christ Himself, the King over Heaven and over Hell, taught His followers over 2000 years ago. Jesus Christ, the King in the Kingdom of God, made it abundantly clear by His everlasting Word that forever is associated with both those who end up in His Heaven and His Hell.

Present your case AGAINST that declared by Jesus Christ Himself, OK?

Here again is the recap of what Jesus Christ, the King of Heaven and Hell - the Kingdom of God - taught to His followers regarding this issue

■ The Kingdom is not of this world and so one has to formally gain access to it through the process of being born-again. What this invariably means that only those who gain access can any of that contained within it, in addition to the gift of eternal life
■ There are two gates into the Kingdom of God and only those who have eternal life and are born-again can enter in through any of those two gates
■ Jesus Christ is the King and judge in the Kingdom of God
■ Jesus Christ rules over Heaven and Hell both of which are found in the Kingdom of God, and none of them hence of this world of ours
■ Those classified as sheep by the King, Jesus Christ, and who will be judged by Jesus Christ in the Kingdom of God all possess eternal life as a result of being born-again, and will be spent in eternal reward as indicated by the King, Jesus Christ.
■ The goats who will be judged by Jesus Christ, the King, in the Kingdom of God also possess eternal life as a result of being born-again, but that eternal life will be spent by them in eternal damnation as indicated by the King, Jesus Christ.
■ Inside of the Kingdom of God - Heaven and Hell - Reward and Damnation both have eternal connotations to them

Where in all of the above did Jesus Christ, the King in the Kingdom of God, get it wrong in the Kingdom of God?

I can stop laughing.

I asked you a question would it take you 1000years to answer.

Why is Sodom and Gomorrha and Jerusalem not still burning today?

All this places were burned with eternal fire.

Kobojunkie:
Let me humor you some. The same Jesus Christ who said all these record in these verses you conveniently picked out of context to quote here, also said the following of the Salvation He offers to those who believe in Him will only be given to those who stand faithful - live their lives in continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments - until the very end.
A. B. C.
The thing about being born-again- entering into the Kingdom of God - is there is no exit gate as once you receive that eternal life at the entry gate, it can't be returned - Jesus Christ said, "I have come to save and not to condemn" meaning there is no way to return oneself back to the pre-born-again state. And so what happens all those who do not stand faithfully until the end? They are the one's who Jesus Christ warned, right there in His teachings that will end up dumped forever in eternal damnation.

The Jesus Christ, True Life Himself - ( the Way, the Truth and the Life - John 14 vs 6) that He is in fact the Narrow Gate which leads to True Life that only those who carefully obey His commandments can enter into.
As you can clearly see, saying you are born-again, is not the same as saying you are saved nor are you guaranteed a place in Heaven as a result.

The thing about the Gospel is as God's Law, it is meant to be taken whole- all-or-nothing. You cannot pick a couple of verses here and there, and then conclude you have it all figured out. No, it is God's Law and most be considered in completeness.

Jesus Christ made clear from the start that being born-again is just the beginning of the journey toward Heaven, and it could also be the beginning towards Hell for those who don't make the cut. So let's read your rebuttal against Jesus Christ here as well.

Your talking out of point.

Stop teaching from your personal feelings.

Christ never thought eternal hellfire.

You are more intrested in promoting your thoughts them hearing and obeying God's word.

Kobojunkie:
Carefully examine the Truth of God as revealed by Jesus Christ Himself right there in the 4 Gospels, and tell me what part of His teachings in the passages below seem twisted to you.

A. A man must be born-again in order to gain access to the Kingdom of God

B. In order to gain access into the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ also taught those who would hear Him that there are two gates through which one may choose to enter in through - the Broad Gate which leads to destruction or the Narrow Gate that leads to True Life. Essentially, Jesus Christ taught those who listened that there is a way that seems right since you are born-again through that way as well but at the end of it lays nothing but destruction. C. Jesus Christ urged all those listening to endeavor to enter into the Kingdom of God through the Narrow Gate which leads to True Life because all those who enter into the Broad Gate will be locked out of God's Heaven at the end.
D. To that end, Jesus Christ further explained that the Kingdom, the Kingdom of God, which He is King over is not of the world.

E. Jesus shed more like on the makeup of that Kingdom when He revealed to those listening what is to take place when He returns to judge the world in the end.
In the above passage, Jesus Christ clearly explained the structure of the Kingdom of God, the Kingdom over which He is King, the Kingdom that is not of this world, the very same Kingdom which only those who are born-again can gain access to. There Jesus Christ admits to being King over Heaven and King over Hell as well both of them in the Kingdom of God where He reigns as judge over all within. He further explains that to have an end in either in Heaven or in Hell requires that one have eternal life, a gift only available to those who are born-again and hence of the Kingdom of God - there is a foreverness associated with life in either of Heaven or of Hell.

So here is a recap of what Jesus Christ in fact taught in His Gospel to all those who will hear Him regarding this here topic.
■ The Kingdom is not of this world and so one has to formally gain access into it through the process of being born-again. What this invariably means that only those who gain access can any of that contained within it, in addition to the gift of eternal life
■ There are two gates into the Kingdom of God and only those who have eternal life and are born-again can enter in through any of those two gates
■ Jesus Christ is the King and judge in the Kingdom of God
■ Jesus Christ rules over Heaven and Hell both of which are found in the Kingdom of God, and none of them hence of this world of ours
■ Those classified as sheep by the King, Jesus Christ, and who will be judged by Jesus Christ in the Kingdom of God all possess eternal life as a result of being born-again, and will be spent in eternal reward as indicated by the King, Jesus Christ.
■ The goats who will be judged by Jesus Christ, the King, in the Kingdom of God also possess eternal life as a result of being born-again, but that eternal life will be spent by them in eternal damnation as indicated by the King, Jesus Christ.
■ Inside of the Kingdom of God - Heaven and Hell - Reward and Damnation both have eternal connotations to them

What you saying is unbiblical.

Those who go to Hell do not have eternal life.

Jesus came to give humanity eternal life and only those who accept him would be saved and get the gift of eternal life.

Thoses who do not accept jesus do not have eternal life they would go to Hell and die the 2nd death

Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Mark 10:30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life. John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. John 12:25 He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. John 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.



Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Karnice600:
You see those Western companies, dem dey try at least to align with labour laws from their own countries. They hardly drop their standards, no matter the location they find themselves because a fellow countryman can easily sue them for exploitation.
But a Chinese company will thrive where labour laws are weak. In fact they love it the most. Most illegal miners caught in some Northern states so far are Chinese. That speak volumes.

True

Kobojunkie:
1. Those who are born-again have eternal life which they then go on to spend in either of eternal reward(Heaven) or eternal damnation(Hellfire). That is what Jesus Christ Himself taught His followers. Only those who enter into the Kingdom of God . i.e. are born-again, can have a part in the Kingdom of God where Heaven and Hell are born domained - John 3 vs 1 - 8 & Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 27 & Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. All other ideas are heretical.

2. Jude clearly didn't say the people of Sodom and Gomorrah have eternal life as you seem to assume. Read carefully what he instead said as in the image below.

You are confused.

How can born again ppl have eternal life and still spend it in Hell fire?

Stop twisting God's word.

BluntTheApostle:
Supposing a man leads a sinful life for 70 years, and you punish him eternally, is that a fair judgement?

It is like killing a man for stealing maggi.

One important characteristic of good judgement is FAIRNESS.

Judgement must fit the crime. Not too much for the crime, and not negligible with respect to the crime.

And God is a JUST God. His punishment ought to be JUST.

I should be asking you that.

Check my topics, I never believed in eternal hell fire or everlasting fire.

Kobojunkie:
Are you seriously attempting to argue against Jesus Christ, God's very Law in the Kingdom of God, by using an abstract reference to the punishment that God visited on the people of the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha by a man called Jude?

Following comparisons where made by Jesus Christ in His Gospel, so, they are worth considering first.

A. Judgment for Sodom and Gomorrah happened when the people were destroyed
B. The people of Sodom were not given signs before they were destroyed
C. Judgment for the poeople of Sodom happened in the past
D. At the time God judged and destroyed Sodom, the people were going about their normal routines unaware of what was about to befall them.


If Jude was attempting here to make a comparison similar to that formally spoken by Jesus Christ in regards to the judgement which waits those who refuse to heed His warnings, then, the comparison made by Jude of those individuals to the plight that befall Sodom and Gomorrah takes on new light....
.... only since Jude's audience is of sinners who have eternal life, the punishment of eternal life is what awaits them at the end, instead of a fire like the one that destroyed the people of Sodom on its day of judgment.

See attached from the greek extract of Jude 1 vs 7

What are you even saying?

Who said humans have eternal life?
So Sodom and Gomorrha ppl had eternal life?

Stop teaching heresies.

TheDemola:
Really?

Yes

QuinModah:
There a thread about sharing experience working with foreign companies in Nigeria

Noted.

Kobojunkie:
Interesting claim!

You are saying that the greek manuscripts got it entirely wrong that the fire would be eternal - eonian?

Jude 1:7 ►

Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal
fire.

Is Sodom and Gomorraha still burning today?

ppogba:
You have made good points but totally disagree that it is " a carefully orchestrated voluntary slave labour racket" The Europeans did not force anybody. I am not aware of any slave ship at APAPA or TINCAN port loading people to Europe. People are leaving on their own will and the normal nigerian mentality has even made youths to see it as ALL IN ALL.

Have you ever wondered why South Africans are not leaving as much as Nigerians?
Have you bothered to look at what Nigeria and Pakistan amongsts the largest contributors of the emigrant doctors have in common? Simple answer, POVERTY.

You are smart.
Some ppl reason from their backside ,with emotions

ParasiteWest:
There cannot be a right government until the West is put in their place.
The interest of the West in developing countries is to make sure the developing countries remain impoverished so the citizens of those countries would find migration to the West for 'greener pastures' attractive where they're then exploited and exposed to modern day slavery.
Their intent is to keep the West as a 'paradise' in the minds of the manipulated public.
The West influenced the politics of Africa directly/indirectly.
The right govt will get the 'Gaddafi treatment'

What a senseless comment.

Is the west that is responsible for Nigeria not have 24hrs light or is it the west that's is campaigning for a drug lord who is sick to become president, is it the west that loot our Oil revenues?

Talk like someone who is grownup and has sense.

Gaddafi was killed for his role in instigating war against Israel.

NWO.

There are things I cannot say here which you do not know.

If your 3rd eyes is open you understand my points.

ppogba:
Simple rule of Economics 101.

When Supply outstrips demand you have GLUT.

It is ironic that in this part of the world we still believe that the Europeans love us in every and any situation.

For every gram of favour they do Africans, there is tens of thousands of benefits to them in return.

Know this and have peace.

You made no sense here.

TheDemola:
What if it's owned by Nigerian but run by Indians?

Worst, 2 wrong set of ppl.

Teibaba:
Same feelings here...

I keep saying this we blacks are the strongest but most useless or dumb force on earth.

We hate each other.

We are destruction or disaster to ourselves

Who said they are the strongest?
Stop believing myth.

I agree with your other assertions.

Simplyfun:
After I finished secondary school, I worked with a Chinese company that produces baby jelly cream at ikeja. This chinese people have no respect for human being in that company. Pay is every two weeks but trust me it is peanut. You will end up using the money to treat yourself in the hospital because of the huge workload they would use you to do. I was young and I need to hustle as a secondary school fresh graduate.

There was a day I have worked so hard and I was tired. I sat down close to the factory to have some rest. While there one of the chinese people came and started shouting at me to get back to work immediately. I told him that he should allow me to rest for a little time that I am tired. Hearing this the chinese man told me that I am fired (Sacked) I was surprised.

I tried to beg him but he said that I should go. When I realized that I can't change his mind. I told him to pay me for the days I have worked. He asked me to wait and went inside. Later he came outside and asked me to follow him to his office. While in his office this Chinese man started accusing me that I stole his phone and before I could a say a word he started slapping me and demanding for his phone. I was shocked, confused, just stood in his office crying.

Few minutes later, the Chinese man called mopol to arrest me. The mopol came and drag me to the factory security post. While the mopols were dragging me i saw the name of one of them and immediately I know he is a Yoruba man. So I communicated to him in Yoruba language. I told him everything that happened; how I told him I was tired and how he sacked me, how I requested for my pay for the days I worked. When I finished talking the mopol just laughed and said that is their trick here oh. The mopol told me that it is because the Chinese man doesn't want to pay me the money that's why he lied that I stole his phone.

While I was in the security post my friends in my area who also work in the factory have gotten hint of was going on outside. May your soul rest in peace my guy (Ikenna) dude and people that know me in my area have already began protesting in the compound. They said they are not working again as well and they must pay me my money or else nobody would be allowed to work.

When the Chinese people saw the craziness that was playing out from my friends. They called me again into their office and pay me my money. My friends also collected their money and that's how we all left this slavery Chinese factory at Ikeja.

This incident happened more than 15years ago. Whenever I look back I just imagine what would have happened to me if I didn't have those friends to fight for me. That's how I would have been sent to prison by a foreigner in my fatherland oh. Honestly, our government need to be going round all establishment and be talking to staff on how their employeer are treating them. There are so many slavery work in this country and people can't come out to talk about them because of fear of losing the job.

Hmm!!! Yet some fools want us to believe that Chinese trade and loans to Africa is for our best intrest.

Is it not ironic that most of this bad companies are owned by Chinese,indians, Lebanese and our fellow black Nigerians but the are the worst kind of ppl to work with.

I have not seen anyone complain working for an European or American company.

We are our own worst enemies.
If you Work for indigenous oil servicing firm , you would understand why it hurts to see this multinational foreign oil servicing companies leave.

OnionBandit:
If Buhari 's government pays them for the months spent gallivanting around doing nothing, I will withdraw my total support for this administration..I would rather support the failed brewery investor with a second class in philosophy than wish for a continuity of this nonsense

Everybody just dey do as dem like for this administration despite the fact that Buhari is so fatherly and understanding.

Clown

BluntTheApostle:
I am not talking about hell fire, but DAMNATION (the second death).

I don't understand,
You mean God should let sinners go without punishment?

BluntTheApostle:
So, sending someone to eternal damnation for a lifetime of sin is just?

You have all forgotten that Adam and Eve did not even know good from evil until they ate of that tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

God does not send ppl to eternal hell.

That's Bible misinterpretation.


https://www.nairaland.com/6326489/understanding-facts-truth-hellfire

Kingspin:
Bro, talk to Nigerians, ur goals, plan and records.
Stop all these PDP will not make heaven talk

Does he have one?

obedience4:
This is serious, I know some people will support this barbaric act, this are the recipe for a civil war, and when it comes it will be bloody and the same people hailing them will suffer the consequences.
Know sane human being will support the killing of people husband, father's, uncle, brother,..
Succession will never work peaceful it always brings a civil war, the calamities and destruction of the first civil war you would think would make people speak against such killings yet people are supporting killings..
This was how Sudan and south Sudan started till today both countries are not stable.. People die in thousands and millions starving

You dey mind the fools? ,Am an Igbo man but would never support this stupid movement and approach by one fool called Mazi.

Theboss100:
APC is a party of criminals.
God forbid that Tinubu finds his way into ASO rock.
Worse will happen under his government. A confirm Buhari pro-,Max
Check this out

Don’t be deceived into fighting someone’s personal battles disguised as an ethnic battle.

They didn’t consider you a good enough Omo Yoruba, when they were doling juicy positions to their family and friends.

We are only good enough to help them fight their personal battles.

Being an Omoluabi doesn’t mean we shouldn’t use our heads (brains).

Before you vote in the next general election, consider these:

*Remi Tinubu (Wife):* Bola Tinubu made her a 3-term senator who represented Lagos Central at the Nigerian Senate.

*Mrs Lola Akande (Sister-in-law):* She is Tinubu's wife’s sister. He made her the incumbent Lagos State Commissioner, Ministry of Commerce, Industry and Cooperatives. She is also a former member of the Lagos State House of Assembly.

*Hon. Sunkanmi (Nephew):* the member of Lagos state House of Assembly representing Ikeja. He actually succeeded Mrs. Lola Akande.

*Sade Tinubu-Ojo (Daughter):* She is the Iyaloja General of Lagos. Note, the Iya Oloja controls all monies and levies generated in all Lagos markets. Sade replaced Tinubu’s adopted mother as the Iyaloja. Technically, he made the position an hereditary/family position

*Oyetunde Ojo (Son-in-law):* Tinubu made him a member of the House of Representatives member in Ekiti State. He was sacked for using fake academic credentials in contesting. Ojo, an ex-parking attendant in London, is the husband of the Iya loja General of Lagos.

*Seyi Tinubu (Son):* He was appointed as the emergency financial consultant to all parastatals and local governments in Lagos State. Seyi is also in charge of the Lagos advertising account. This makes him in charge of the billions of naira generated from all billboard adverts in Lagos. His convoy is said to rival that of a state Governor

*Fola Tinubu (nephew):* He is the Managing Director of Primero Transport Services Limited, a company owned by Tinubu. The company has the sole rights to operate BRT service in Lagos.

*Akeem Muri-Okunola (His friend’s son/and his former PA):* He was recently was imposed as the Head of Lagos Civil Service against all civil service rules.

*Akinola Benson (Personal Assistant):* He is the incumbent Commissioner for Establishment.

*Jide Idris (His Cousin):* The three-term Commissioner and the incumbent Commissioner for Health is Tinubu's Cousin.

*Bolaji Ariyo (former ADC):* The incumbent chairman of the Oshodi Local Government was also Tinubu's ADC.

*Gbolahan Lawal (ADC):* The incumbent Commissioner for Housing (a two-term Commissioner) was ADC to Bola Tinubu.

*Dr. Sikiru Tinubu (Cousin):* He is the MD of the Critical Care unit at the Lagos State University Teaching Hospital (LASUTH) in Ikeja. The facility was built and equipped with state funds. It is now owned personally by Bola Tinubu. Dr. Sikiru Tinubu runs the outfit. It is run as a private unit and the proceeds are pocketed by the duo. The unit charges its users exorbitantly and most Lagosians can hardly afford to pay its high charges. Most of the revenue is derived from fees paid by the State Government for patients referred there by its General Hospitals

*Isiaka Gboyega Oyetola (Cousin):* Bola Tinubu installed his cousin Isiaka Gboyega Oyetola as the governor of Osun State.[/b]

- Muri Adekanmbi Olufade

We Concur.

Hmm!!! Na them���

PHIPEX:
So you believe Tinubu will do 2 terms when he will be clocking almost 93yrs?

Has he even survived the pre election talkless of after it?
Dead man walking is what Tinubu is.

Very useless Anti- progress party of crooks.(APC)

Only fools would vote this party.

See better cashout, no be cassava and agbado.

Truthisunique2:
The elites are the same

Na una taking sides in this war go suffer am, Dem dey use una head bring New world order

Go watch London Olympics 2012 opening ceremony, it was a story of the covid 19 scam they were to bring in 2020

They started by showing a Chinese girl as poster symbol representing China for covid

You dey mind the fools,especially pootin Mouth Action boys?

gaby:
The last supper wey Jesus chop no cost reach this one oh....

Lol....