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Ibime:
How many km is a straight line across the sea from Ikorodu to VI? You should be able to work out your speed from there using 45 mins

Is this what you call Ferry? This is a speedboat, not a ferry - but it still won't do 110km/hr, highest 60 to 80

These speedboat are what people generally refer to as Ferry on Lagos waters and they ate very fast like he claimed.

People living In Ìkoròdu but working at VI or CMS/Marina always prefer it because of its speed, but is very very unsafe. I had one one boss that will park his official and personal cars at home to join these boats cos it saves him from traffic. But each time there's a reported case of a boat mishap ( which happens at least once in 3 months); everybody starts calling his number to check on him hoping his boat was not affected.

People get mind for this country sha. It can never be me

afrodoc2:
She is responsible for their safety and should have provided life jackets. If the movie producer insists on them wearing life jackets, most of them will comply. Junior Pope, who appeared scared to the max about drowning in one of the circulating clips, would surely have made use of a life jacket if he had the option.

It is a recurring them in Nigeria, whereby people who should ensure the safety of their workers do not uphold their end of the bargain. That leads to electrical workers suffering electrocutions, and construction workers suffering falls, etc.

I understand it is the producer's duty to provide life jacket but I also believe the actors themselves owe themselves duty of care not to board the boat having confirmed the life jackets were not provided.

I wonder what Blacklisting the producer will achieve. It's not like almost everybody is not guilty of the offence they are accusing the producer of.

Let's hope they AGN as a group will take safety issues serious and not just stop at this reactive measures instead of being proactive going forward

enigma0:
An average yoruba person who study up to waec level wiltl definitely know what "eedegberin" is except the person is a dullard cos 'onka yoruba' is taught from elementary level to secondary level. Most people now don't know/care the meaning of some words nowadays cos core yoruba is spoken only in some places in osun,ogun,oyo etc as speaking english is what importance is placed on. Words like "ifaara, isipo, gbena-gbena," etc may sound alien to most average people tho cos there are some words I've heard that sound foreign to me

The issue is not whether the topic was taught or not, it's about how many people actually remember anything about it.

It's just the same way those guys may have heard the word INCULCATE before used in sentences but can't even remember what it means.

afrodoc2:
I don't even blame Richards and Carragher. Na Kate Abdo who is meant to be the broadcast journalist that should hide her face. It means that apart from being Henry's work wife she no add any value to that set up.

Exactly. Na Late fall hand pass ; how can she not have used the word before if she reads and write the language having gone to conventional school?

What's this talk about the Actors Guild of Nigeria cancelling the producer of the movie the Pope guy went for before the unfortunate incident?

How is cancelling her and barring other actors from working with her going to change anything? The video made before the unfortunate incident showed everyone in that video was glad to risk their lives nit wearing life jacket. They were all grinning and smiling making videos without having life jacket on.

I don't think the producer could've forced the life jacket on them. I don't understand why they are making the producer of the movie a scapegoat. It's more like the people are angry and looking for who to transfer aggression to

Theflint1:
English isn't part of the curriculum of native English speaking countries?

Most of the footballer's on the show didn't attend conventional schools. They mostly attended academies where they are more interested in learning football than listening when a language instructor is telling them the meaning of INCULCATE.

I gave an example of a Yoruba word that most average Yoruba person didn't really know despite studying Yoruba to WAEC level. It's not like a Yoruba person hasn't heard the word before, he just doesn't really care about the word and what it means.

[quote author=Amigoss post=129376250]Native English speakers have never heard the word inculcate before ,even Kate Abdo no fit explain am,Henry had to come to their rescue and we are the one mandated to write IELTS,something we all knew in pry school.....This English people go dey worship Patrick Obahiagbon

Titi really taking the crew to school in multiple languages 📚 pic.twitter.com/jEakjEszBW

— CBS Sports Golazo ⚽️ (@CBSSportsGolazo) April 10, 2024

just the same way their are some words in ur local language u don't know but a non-native speaker who studied the language knows .

For example if u ask a random Yoruba person what is "ẹ̀ẹ́dẹ́gbẹ̀rin", he or she may not know but someone who as a non-native speaker that learnt Yoruba may casually tell u it is 700.

I know a man in his late 70's whose both parents are from Cross river state, but he was born and bred in Lagos. This man can read Yoruba bible without having any difficulty pronouncing any word. He even corrects his age mate whom are native Yoruba speakers when they read and don't get the Yoruba pronunciations right

izzou:
[color=royalblue]That is why I am trying to understand how FG will help him

This Onyema case just get as e be.

I thought he said he has been booked till September. Make him use that one hold body fess.
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It suddenly dawned on him that getting booked till September is not the bigger picture after all; it's life after that period that matters .

I wish him the best. Hopefully we will will all learn one or two lessons from how this whole matter ends up

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I never understand the accident sef

How did 2 people fly out of the bus, and fell into the lagoon?

The bus no get door?[/color]

People can get flung out of the window while the bus is somersaulting; it's doesn't necessarily need to be through the door

iamoyindamola:
https://www.nairaland.com/8057382/accident-3rd-mainland-bridge-2

Blueraydick, izzou

I knew this would happen, especially with the yellow buses .

Most of them don't even have mirrors nor pointer light. When they want to change lane, they will be using hand to wave u driving at high speed down 🤦‍♂️

Olowunl01:
The Nigerian Govt can start with the below:
Facilitate seamless connecting flights to other airports (Enugu, PH)
Govt patronage
Priority Baggage Handling

Well, maybe for argument sake let's agree FG does all that for Air Peace at no extra cost , so how does Air Peace turn that to increased profitability in the long run ?

In all of these ; all I see is air peace trying to survive in an international space where so many foreign airlines have already gained enough market share .

Air Peace like most Nigerian airlines has been enmeshed in controversies around flight delay , poor customer delivery , etc . Dem dey get normal regular 4ck up on normal local route .

Now imagine I want to travel abroad and there's air peace that has disappointed me on local flights few times and then there's BA . Let's say air peace is $700 and the BA is $650. No matter the amount of patriotism I have , I will gladly opt for BA. I won't care about supporting our own at that point .

larride:
I dont believe Airpeace brought the price reduction strategy, I believe BA and Virgin has been ripping Nigerians off with high cost of fares of direct flights. What Airpeace brought to the market was competition and charging the normal rate that the flight should cost and not the exorbitant prices that BA and Virgin were charging.

What BA and Virgin are currently doing is charging way below the fair market fare so as to stifle out Airpeace from the market. This I believe is where the FG needs to protect Airpeace.

The only way I believe the FG can protect Airpeace is by giving him tax breaks, waivers and the likes to reduce his operational cost so it can compete favorably with the foreign airlines. The foreign airlines wont want to continue to make losses and they cant underprice the route for long. The FG just need to help Airpeace to withstand this initial storm.

Baba, there is no law that sets the amount of profit margin u can have added to ur cost price to derive selling price .

Air Peace thinks price reduction is a great strategy ; by cutting down on ur profit margin , u can get a large chunk of the market share .

Suddenly everybody follows his thought pattern and u discover that other companies can decide to go lower with their profit margin just to maintain their market share .

It's only Air Peace that can save itself and not government .

larride:
Totally agree.

Protectionalism is very important especially for local manufacturers/companies.

Okay , in this case what sort of protectionalism do u think will suit Air Peace .

Let's not forget that it was Onyeama himslef that brought the price reduction strategy in a bid to bite a chunk of the market share .

Will the government now ban other companies from reducing their own prices too in order to keep Air Peace afloat ? Won't that be defeating the aim of having competitors in order to have competitive prices in the market ?

Even going by how much interviews Onyeama has granted since this recent launch; he appears to be at loggerheads with those regulating our aviation sector here in Nigeria . A person who wants to enjoy the government's good graces does not go about having issues with almost all the agencies that have a say in his business operation in the country

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The truth is that Price reduction strategy is the most effective when entering a new and competitive market

The problem is that Baba did not calculate the pockets of the foreign airlines and the edge his competitors had over him.

Baba say na "Some of them are charging $200"

Onyema no fit believe him eyes [/color]

E shock am; e no fit believe him eyes say na the same strategy he bring dem don quickly weaponize against him and his business .

What people need to understand is that in any market where there's little or no government interference , business is WAR! And everybody will fight for him interests .

U see what Onyeama did with that sudden price reduction; he rattled the board of different companies . By that one move , he has made the cars of some directors hang in the balance , he has made the appraisal of some senior staff far less desirable and has set path to which those competitors will lose market share thereby reducing their income .

All those people needed to do was to identify his strategy as a potential threat to their means of livelihood and they quickly devised means to respond to him in like manner . I don't envy him right now

afrodoc2:
The thing dey surprising. He undercut them, and they undercut him back. Why is he now crying? Did he expect them to just lie down and die?

He just wants to milk the people's emotions ni ; but he's forgotten no amount of patriotism will make a Nigerian to patronize a Nigerian brand at a higher price compared to a foreign carrier's.

If he's not prepared to play the long game on this matter ; he can as well just admit the strategy is counter productive

What u see happening to Air Peace is after effects of "unhealthy competition" in a market economy .

Na Air Peace use him hand bring the price reduction strategy in a bid to gain more market share at the launch of his new flying route; now this is the existing competitors responding with their own move.

I don't understand why Allen Onyeama is crying tho. Na u devise strategy , na u implement am, na au dey go from TV station to another analyzing the strategy to anyone that cares to listen ; now the strategy team of ur competitors have taken up the challenge to counter ur moves and u are shouting " evil conspiracy ".

I'm not a fan of pity party , Allen Onyeama either get used to the heat of the kitchen to cook better or get out of the kitchen completely ! Business is war!

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Lol..I actually heard the opposite.

I asked a friend who trades at the depot, and she told me that the price is high.

PMS is currently selling at almost 640/ltr. Infact, she said only about 4 depots in Lagos are selling.

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Na wa o. Different speculations here and there .

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Fuel wan scarce?[/color]

According to what I heard , there's a plan by the FG through NNPC to reduce PMS pump price soon.

So most marketers are wary of buying at the current price and sell at lower cost. More like they are speculating waiting for whatever cost reduction before stocking. That's why u see only few filling stations with fuel overcrowded cos others are waiting for FG move before they make an order

LordAdam16:
That's negligible.
The current customs rate is 1238.
https://trade.gov.ng/en/exchange/customs-exchange-rate

Customs FX rate lags and is based on the previous-day NAFEX and CBN rates.
They're within the same band.

-Lord

The long and short of it is that I won't clear my goods today at N1330 / dollar and u will expect me to sell it next week cheaper cos the exchange rate is now 1,278/dollar .

For those always asking why there hasn't been drastic reduction in price of goods despite appreciation of the naira against the dollar.

This is one of the reasons

izzou:
[color=royalblue]But some of these kind talk sef

$1 billion revenue in 5 years for Nigeria Air; Airline wey never get office, talk more of aircraft?

Since when Air Peace dey fly up and down, e don get $1 billion revenue?

Mtcheeeeeww[/color]

It's the audacity for me!

Obvioulsy the political class think the masses are stupiiid and the masses themselves have not denied it by lapping at some of these ridiculous takes of politicians and their minions .

Imagine in 2024 , politicians are still milking the Ajaokuta steel propaganda mill and sane people still dey lap-up to it . smh. 🤦‍♂️

If people can still believe in the Ajaokuta steel misadventventure , why won't the Nigeria air people not have hope ?

KanielOutis92:
If a Deputy Governor is impeached, just as Philip Shaibu has been impeached... and a new Deputy is sworn in, will the new Deputy Governor ( who'd have mind you, be deputy for less than 8 months ) be eligible to collect the life pension that is due to past Governors & their deputies? Is there a precedent regarding this? I'm an Edo resident & I'm quite ignorant about this issue

In due time, the court might likely declare his impeachment illegal and he may be entitled to all those benefits in arrears.

If the courts don't work in his favour, he can make up with Obaseki later and the same house of assembly will "forgive/pardon " him. That was happened with Femi Pedro in Lagos.

Femi Pedro was impeached in the last day's of Tinubu's governorship. He did everything possible to get the court reverse the impeachment but it never worked until much later when he made up with Tinubu and Lagos state house of assembly "pardoned" him. It was only then he had access to his pension.

iamoyindamola:
Blueraydick I hope you are fine
I haven't seen your brake light here since Friday

I dey; been busy offline ni

afrodoc2:
If the land belongs to the state government then they have to handle it.

I don’t think FG can chase people away from the land since the land does not belong to the FG in the first place. They have to use the LASG to do their dirty work.

Exactly ! Na state government get all the land for their state except for those already designated as under federal government from inception

Na LASG give the man C of O , so if LASG wants to evict him on behalf of FG , they must pay him compensation and get reimbursement from FG

afrodoc2:
I totally agree. He is going about it in the right order. It is sad though that government can just wake up one morning and unalive a man's livelihood just like that.

There should be some limits and caveats to that land use act. If it is for really crucial purposes like environmental preservation etc, then it makes sense, but to be booting people out and making them homeless because of any silly government white elephant project is tyrannical IMO.

This should be one of the focus of our house of assembly members . They should be able to look at historical events , identify the need for the people and property interest be protected from the recklessness of Executive governors . They should be championing the amendment of the Land use act by importing such caveat .

That is why the senators and HOA are called the representatives of the people . They are the ones saddled with that responsibility . But look at that fighting over constituency allowances , padding budgets and what have u. Some of them are even more concerned about regulating social media . 🤦‍♂️

At least if the law has such caveat , anytime a government at the executive level wants to transgress , the victim can always have a legal leg to stand on and challenge them in court .

izzou:
[color=royalblue]There's a possibility that only Lagos may have properties that would warrant compensation.

The rest may just be fishermen's lodges on their coast[/color]

Most likely and those properties are in the highbrow areas of Lagos.

afrodoc2:
Exactly.

AFTER the case has been decided in court, the government can move in and carry out the demolition. They can then build their highway.
Highway construction is not an emergency activity like emergency Caesarean section. It can wait until it is sorted out.

Filing for compensation after demolition just means it is your grandchildren that will get the compensation, if at all.

Yeah. But if I was in this Landmark owner's shoes I will first try and dialogue with the government to see if there's a way they can reroute the whole thing in order not to affect my investment that is providing jobs for fellow citizens.

If I get a negative response , then I will file for compensation ASAP and get an injunction restraining government from carrying out demolition immediately . If they decide to disobey the court order, no wahala . I will sha pursue my right to compensation to the last kobo.

Once I get the monetary compensation, I will never look back at ever investing in Nigeria ever again. I will face my business interests in other saner environment .

afrodoc2:
100%.

With regards compensation , the property owners should tie them up in court first and get an agreement on the compensation amount before allowing their houses to be pulled down. Filing for compensation after the buildings have been pulled down is not the wise way.

I don’t know if class action suits is a thing in Nigeria. Dozens or hundreds of people affected can come together (if they don’t individually have the finances) and take such cases to court.

The wicked way government just callously destroys their own citizens’ homes and businesses in the name of redevelopment is crazy.

I guess the slow pace of property related cases in the Nigerian court system is one major factor why property owners are majorly handicapped and discouraged from taking the legal route of challenging these government's callous attitude of taking over people's properties without proper compensation .

Just look at the the magodo land issue that became a serious Matter sometimes last year when the original owners of the land wanted to take over the land in accordance with a Supreme Court judgement after Lagos state had sold the land to innocent people years ago.

Could u believe that the case had been decided at the appeal court level as at 1996 in favor of the original land owner and then finally decided at the Supreme Court in 2012. Can u imagine how long it took from Appeal to Supreme Court level . Only God even knows when the initial case was instituted at the high court level sef.

I'm sure it's the grandchildren of the original land owners that are pursuing prosecution of the court judgement now. Those court cases take too long !

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Yes oh, i saw it

You know say i kuku never see the sense in spending 1 trillion on that Highway.

The LASG has asked him to file for compensation. I'm guessing he has his documents legally. [/color]

If Nigeria were to be an ideal society sef, the amount of compensation govt will pay to legal property owners along that corridor alone would discourage them from going ahead with the project .

afrodoc2:
If he got it legally then he should get an injunction against the government, in order to postpone or put a halt to their moves.

Abi is there something I am missing? Can government just wake up one day and decide to demolish anybody’s property because of a new plan cooked up after the fact?


This is government of the people, by some people, against the people o.

If u are following the news of recent demolitions being carried out in Lagos , u will know government can do and undo in this country .

Around last month I listened to Nigerian Info 99.3 fm Lagos and residents of Jakande along Ilasan road came to express their plight.

The government came and serve them notice to vacate the place because government had planned the demolition of the place. The chairman and secretary of the residents association gave a backstory of how they happened to be occupiers of the place. They were initially occupying a particular land before as landlords ( I can't recollect the name again) , then the government had reasons to relocate them and allocated that Jakande to them with legal allocation letters o.

So now government wants to drive them away after spending more than 30 years there legally . Now the government is not even giving them grace to even look for alternative accommodation nor talk about compensation . They went to the house of assembly , they met their honorable from their constituency who has tabled the matter before the house and they expect the house to invite the perm sec and commissioner to discuss on the way forward.

Guess what? The next day the bulldozers got to the estate alongside several security operatives as early as possible with the sole aim of carrying out the demolition . As those guys were on radio talking , they said they are scared the houses may have been demolished before they get home sef.

Government can do and undo if the guy no get leg and mouth in the right places o

Maybe when we play brighton and see something else to discuss una go rest on this win or draw argument sha

afrodoc2:
BlueRayDick, do you know the backstory?

Did he get the appropriate approval for his property?
Or did he settle people to illegally build on that land?
If he got the approval required, how are they able to give him 7 days to evacuate? And I did not see anything in your post about government offering the commensurate compensation.

Well, I don't know the backstory about how he got the land but I remember sometimes back reading his interview on how he got the place I don't think he got the place illegally cos even if Government don't have his time, the neighboring oniru royal family who owns the Victoria island would've dragged his asss long ago .

https://nairametrics.com/2023/05/06/meet-paul-onwuanibe-landmark-groups-founder-and-one-of-the-lions-of-the-lions-den/?amp=1

And I seriously doubt if government plans any compensation whatsoever cos the Lagos state letter to the company was silent about that