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raumdeuter:
According to this report,

https://www.icirnigeria.org/about-200m-illegal-firearms-circulating-in-nigeria-gov-sani/

Uba Sani is saying 200m illegal guns dey Nigeria, assuming he's exaggerating and only half is right or even quarter that's like 50m illegal guns and you think there are no guns in Nigeria?

The only thing be say na criminals get am not law abiding citizens

Staying in relatively peaceful Lagos is a blessing

monerozi5590:
....... but Buhari has since left office and they are still doing it. Is it still on PMB?

"Fuel crisis lingers as NNPC seeks fresh $2bn crude-backed loan" https://punchng.com/fuel-crisis-lingers-as-nnpc-seeks-fresh-2bn-crude-backed-loan/?amp#offcanvasExample

afrodoc2:
Dayo wants to turn Nigeria to Somalia. Lagos will turn to Mogadishu overnight.

raumdeuter:
Is that true in Nigeria? When every corner bam 16yr old get am

Theflint1:
I swear, imagine both guys didn't have guns on themselves to start with? I've seen videos of more intense road rage in Nigeria, but e dey hardly pass destruction of property or exchange of blows.

America gun culture no be am, though if I was there I'd have no choice but to carry too.

raumdeuter:
You mean if only one person had a gun, he will shoot the other and walk away like King Kong and other people will flee or hide like you described in Ikeja along

seankafor:
follow up

https://x.com/JC_Midwest/status/1814042796057350228?t=TWNJhTE0mUDPLbfyVY-d_w&s=19[/quote]It’s actually self defense true true .

He brought out gun first and was definitely going to shoot the guy first before he was outgunned .

This is what will be happening in Nigeria if they allow guns to be accessible to civilians like Raumdeuter wants

seankafor:
Gun 🔫 problems

https://x.com/InsaneRealitys/status/1814012971359621566?t=AAmlkYc1nYsXkrpwUZdBRA&s=19[/quote]The guy don die before he could even react

liveLongNprospa:
Lmao.. From what I can see, Dangote has no issues purging the FG from his refinery as much as possible because the FG is not serious about doing business.

It's one thing to plan and build.
It's another thing to run that refinery.
FG(nnpc) isn't showing any workings whatsoever that they are ready to help Dangote run that refinery with supply of crude oil.

Now people like to say because tinubu put Dangote in some economic team, then it means all is well.
But that seems to be far from the truth and we've highlighted the rift since Dangote supported atiku in elections (he miscalculated here).

Now the question is who has more to lose from all of this?
The obvious answer is Dangote.
But what does the FG project to other investors that they will be trying to court especially for JV ventures in the nearest future?

CrystalTiger:
This fresh $1bn was just six months ago, January 2024, that's Tinubu's tenure..

Reading other articles, we've been borrowing to pay that 20% since 2021 ffs, Buhari tenure..

Summarily, there's absolutely nothing about the Dangote refinery that is true at this point..

liveLongNprospa:
Lmaoooo

Tinubu should be asking?
The Petroleum minister isn't aware the NNPC was looking for 1billion dollars to fund their 20% stake?

liveLongNprospa:
Remove the monopoly aspect and look at the agreement made in general.
Which part has FG been able to meet up with?
Oil supply which likely makes up the 13% has not been met.

There is propaganda and there is action.
Dangote knows it is not propaganda they use in running a refinery. Let's not forget him and the president have been having issues since it was obvious who Dangote supported during the elections.

This statement by that agency is just twisting facts which industry people are debunking.
Whether the FG was expecting Dangote to cover their yansh (because they gave him concessions when setting up the company) forgetting the O&G industry is brutal.

CrystalTiger:
Just seeing that FG even borrowed $1bn for the 20% six months ago..How did they not meet up with the stake acquisition?..

liveLongNprospa:
Lmaooo.. Have you guys moved from blaming farmers to now blaming Dangote?
Because your FG couldn't keep up their own end of the bargain and he called you guys out😁

GloriousGbola:
touche motherfucker

that picture of kyari smiling with buhari in the aftermath of the tainted fuel incensed me

GloriousGbola:
it is an issue because nigeria should be able to sell oil and have enough for internal use. we have an opec quota we often fail to meet

it is an issue because where will ph refinery then get crude from?

this is why there is a renewed scramble to confirm exactly how much oil we are producing.

no one in any of these agencies actually planed for or expected nigeria to start refining . they are content with the status quo

GloriousGbola:
If dangote cannot get oil from Nigeria we are back to square one. Forex wasted on importing what we have.
And the cycle will continue

TrebleChamp:
I have also never supported his business method of killing competition, reason i was very happy BUA group matched him with money and power. I remember how Dangote tried to illegally takeover Okpella Cement Company in Edo State from BUA.
I believe that statement can harm the Refinery international reputation...

GloriousGbola:
Npmdra are capping imho

The diesel sold in Nigeria has always been low quality. And rejected in the EU. They are the ones who let in that bad petrol and no one was sacked or sanctioned. So I will take any of their stories about low quality fuel with a pinch of salt.

The real issue is that nnpc or npdrma or the fking civil servants are not actually for us to refine fuel. Nigeria has sweet crude. Our crude is very high quality. If they had supplied Nigerian crude to dangote this issue would not have arisen.

If they don't have crude to sell to dangote, do they have crude to sell to pH refinery or any other refinery that comes up? Do they actually have any plan for this? This may be why they are suddenly spamming us with tales by moonlight of sabotage of pH refinery. They are content to let all the money spent on the refinery to waste without any result.

It's actually no wonder dangote did not hire anyone from nnpc refinery but chose inexperienced genz engineers (there is an article on that). At their core, nnpc has the same culture have the same as ajaokuta, get a salary without generating any value whatsoever. Bureaucratic ineffeciency

These clowns are responsible for the status quo and have no plans to change it. So if any other refineries come up, they too would have to import oil using forex and we are back to square one. If course they would look for the cheapest oil they can import which would be oil with sulfur.

Tinubu needs to do more and purge these vibes and inshallah civil servants who do nothing and do not mean well for this country. Of course we will then see more meetings of northern politicians.


This is becoming imho a fight for a sustainable way of doing things and retaining the old order

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Since his Diesel contains 700 kinikan than imported ones, why not sanction him or shut him down?

That should be common sense, yeah. The same diesel wey Dangote dey export to abroad, abi?

When Dangote started, i feared he would want a monopoly, but what that agency said is shameful.

The market is still open sef. How come nobody is selling cheaper even though they can import? Has anybody stopped anybody from importing?

Tomorrow, you can be a businessman and one man that got to DG through padipadi will just come out and condemn your business. There's nothing to support there.

If Dangote's product is inferior, shut it down. Is that not the work of the agency again?[/color]

iamoyindamola:
Those about to die is like Spartacus (story about ancient Rome)

House of ga'a is about bashorun ga'a

swiz123:
Dangote is very stupid. Same thing he did with cement, he wants to do now. If he wants the largest market share, he should compete with prices as it should be in a free market.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Since they are a regulatory agency and Dangote's product is inferior, why don't they shut it down?

That's self sabotage, and it is quite shameful that a government agency would say such about a business.

Since when the man said NNPC has only 7.2% stake in the refinery, compared to the 20% lie that they have been reciting, i am not surprised to read this.

Dangote's product is inferior, and na him Diesel full everywhere. [/color]

TrebleChamp:
The "inferior product part", why should a subsidiary of NNPC put out such a statement?

TrebleChamp:
See what a Govt agency is saying concerning Dangote refinery, seem like some very powerful people within and outside the Country truly want this refinery to fail.
I am beginning to think Emefiele's support for the refinery project was against the desires of the cabals, Dangote has a serious fight on his hands...

https://www.nairaland.com/8158225/dangote-refinery-products-inferior-nigeria

Jodera:
Arsenal's away kit.

Dope or No??

GloriousGbola:
i have an understanding of their mindset. anyone who has worked in ph has. 'it is our oyel ' . the men are lazy and the women are the hustlers. also why cultism is popular. easier to take machete and rob someone than do 9 to 5 taking shit from someone

imho, they are all part of it. you think governors are not getting their own cut from oil bunkering etal? when amaechi was governor there was a significant reduction in cult activities and violence in rivers. when wike entered, cult activties resumed, bunkering got to an all time high, and kpofire became so entrenched that there is permanent soot in the air in ph.

it is the same miltants who are pledging allegiance to fubara or wike right now. the governors are complicit in all this. same wike who was insulting chiefs cannot call them to tell them to tell their boys to behave?

GloriousGbola:
there are two issues - theft of materials which is large;y a process and security thing, and incursion by the community which is partly a government matter.

Fubara is governor of the state. he has the power to get the community leaders in line. we saw fashola do the same with the restive community when dangote was building his refinery. this is also why we had doubts about wigwes university.

people complain about lagos all the time, but these are the things that ensure that all your state gets is an ioc mini office rather than a head office

if your community leaders and youth are too foolish and short sighted to understand creating a business friendly environment, you as the governor should know better and call them to order

then again, most of these governors are just idiots elevated to leadership positions. fayose actually pulled this nonsense in his first term when he brought some thugs to burn a bank down, and in his second term when he dug ditches in front of all banks in ekiti because they refused to let him shake them down

port harcourt is also a stakeholder in this matter.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Abiru chaired a failed and useless Prudent/Skye/Polaris bank naa.[/color]

GloriousGbola:
this is why the IOCs have all left.

who wants to have to deal with entitled and lazy individuals?
the leaders of the community are more interested in deve than the long term benefits of the project.
this is also why dangote did not even look at PH.
this is were fubara is expected to show his mettle, but he is more concerned with fighting wike.

as for the theft, that is unfortunately standard on construction sites . you have to have proper processes in place to secure your materials


as an engineer this is just another highlight of NNPCC's fundamental incompetence and their culture of throwing excuses rather than solutions

everyone who works in the ND knows you will have community issues and plans for it. this is the way it has been for years .

the most annoying thing about govt officials s their ability to reel out problems. any fool can do that

but if i am going to my boss with a problem i will also have a potential solution as well

when you are not committed to succeeding, this is what happens