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Itsrm:
It is so annoying especially as it keeps happening. I have lost count the number of times I've seen them do this.

They even told us how and where he was caught. Smh

These are people that have gone to the best intelligence trainings outside the country o. They act as if they are incompetent but certainly they are not. I believe our security guys are compromised honestly.

Zanzibar1:
Politics is about numbers, religion and violence. If you can have 2 out of the 3 listed... The government will come to you and appeal to you and not invite you or be arrested.
This is Africa

U think the man doesn't have church members who work in security agencies that are privy to more information than u and I?

The point I was making in that my post u quoted was that Oyedepo is known to always say his mind irrespective of whose ox is gored; but for him to come out & recant what said in a live video, he definitely has his reasons.

Itsrm:
Are they not supposed to use him to lure out the others? Why do our policemen behave like fools?

Now his fellow gang members know he has been arrested.

I don't know if it was on this thread or somewhere I read a quote that resonates with this issue that " In Nigeria, we deliberately make corruption look like incompetency" .... or something like that sha.

I mean anybody who has at least SSCE can piece one or two together that the ideal thing is for the police to arrest this man, take him into custody, use him to lure his team members out and have all of them arrested before they make this kind of announcement. Now they messed that chance up by arresting him only and telling the whole world thereby leaving his lieutenants to relocate from their current location and continue with their business elsewhere.

Zanzibar1:
Lol what if he decides not to honor the invite?

They will declare him wanted and arrest him.

raumdeuter:
Unless something massive changes. Fubara should just plan for 4yrs chop his own and leave and not bother to collect form for next election cos na there people go dey wind am to spend more money and make more enemies(That is if election should hold next month)

That said anything can change in the next 2yrs, any of the actors can die or realign

This!

He has the advantage Ambode never had; he already knows what awaits him at the end of 4 years . No surprises

Realmrsean:
korea is heavily subsidized by usa..their currency si the worst in the continent

You've got jokes. Shey na Nigeria dem no dey subsidized ?

Ibime:
It's like FG want to squeeze those Fubara loyalists nuts until they sing that Fubara sent them to burn down HOA

When I saw the news I was even thinking when they said Fubara supporters, they actually meant his supporters who are known people like HOA members and government officials loyal to Fubara.

Instead na normal cultists wey dey run errands for them dem pack full there

.ng reports that the five defendants are Chime Eguma Ezebalike, Prince Lukman Oladele, Kenneth Goodluck Kpasa, Osiga Donald and Ochueja Thankgod.

In the seven-count charges, the defendants were accused of committing terrorism offences by invading, vandalizing and burning down Rivers State House of Assembly during the wake of the political crisis that rocked Port Harcourt in October last year.

Beside allegedly burning down the State House of Assembly, they were also accused of killing a Superintendent of Police, (SP) Bako Agbashim and five police informants at Ahoada community of the state.

The police informants alleged to have been killed are Charles Osu, Ogbonna Eja, Idaowuka Felix, Paul Victor Chibuogu and Saturday Edi.

The Federal Government also accused them of using various cult groups, namely- Supreme Viking Confraternity, Degbam, Iceland and Greenland to unleash mayhem on the people of the state and their commercial activities.

Realmrsean:
https://www.nairaland.com/7980055/government-should-leave-yahoo-boys

Na nonsense the old man dey talk. I hope he will maintain that stand if the boys running local scam empty his account containing his life savings.

afrodoc2:
It does not work like that in a tournament camp where everyone is forced together every day, sharing rooms and meals. You can speak your mind inside the group but not making public statements that might be misunderstood or misconstrued by your teammates.

I would be surprised if he actually made that statement because it is ill-advised at best. If his LW leaves him to have an exciting 3some with the opposition RW and RB he would never say such again.

What happened to the pressmen asking him about what he thinks has made the super eagles solid defensively? Why dem leave Iwobi, Osimehn, Simon and Chukwueze dey query Bassey about their jobs?

It's more like they(the pressmen) are setting him up to be critical about his team mates or lie about their performances, but he directed them to go and ask them directly.

afrodoc2:
E no suppose fall for their trap na. He could have given a political answer. Nothing good comes from dropping mail for your team mates during a tournament.

He may not be used to giving political answers or he may just be someone who likes to mind his business

izzou:
[color=royalblue]He is part of the team, no?

The question was "Why is the Super Eagles", and not "Why is Calvin Bassey"?

It was just a question of seeking his opinion. Which one be Don't ask me?

I don't think Osimhen would have said the same if he was asked about the defence.
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There's no universally acceptable way of answering such interview questions. You can ask a coach like Mourinho why his team is faltering and he will tell u to ask F.A and the refs whose officiating has been questionable cos that's his opinion.

I don't think Bassey was wrong to have directed them to the right people that should have the answers they seek

So what's the essence of the alarm being raised if NAFDAC cannot explain in clear ternm how to identify the counterfeit products? Or are they saying people should just avoid the Dano brand totally going forward?

What kind of empty health advisory is this from NAFDAC?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Which kind immature response be this?[/color]

Why pressmen dey ask him about converting chances when he'e neither the captain that has a bird's eye view of the whole team's performance nor an attacker/midfielder?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Was there a part where i said it was the Pastor's job to secure lives?

The Government is not an external being. It ia a human like you that is the government; and he is either a Muslim or Christian. If he is a Muslim, he is either an extremist or not. Very simple.

If you are not respected, you demand it. The Muslims have shown us time and time again, but Christians will never understand that.

Shebi CAN president said the Military is aiding Muslims to kill Christians. Let's for a moment assume it is true

So is this the "government" that is supposed to secure lives of Christians in Mangu?

Tomorrow they will kill another Christian, and we will Ctrl + C the same comment of government should be responsible, as if it works.[/color]

All I'm saying is the CAN and other Christian leaders have been talking about/reacting to these issues like u expected them to do. The government that is supposed to do something about it are the ones that have failed to do so.

Except we expect the CAN and those pastors/bishops to resort to self-help like arming Christians with weapons to defend themselves when push comes to shove. And at that point; it will definitely be full blown anarchy.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The church leaders are on YouTube doing prayers and asking viewers to subscribe and share links.

I just don't know why these men will always keep quiet

Adeboye, Oyedepo and Cardinal Arinze are enough to raise enough dust to the religious intolerance, but they won't.

Shettima that is angry that Sharia is not upheld, is the same person we should be holding accountable for the very same thing he supports.

Very laughable[/color]

Oyedepo had his church in Kaduna for years , He's had his own share of attacks from those fundamentalists. In 2020 they even attempted to bomb his church

https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2020/2/bishop-oyedepo-rains-curses-on-miyetti-allah-boko-haram-others-after-failed-attempt-to-bomb-his-church-in-kaduna.html

In fact, earlier in 2017 he was forced to debunk a video in which he was seen obviously venting at how security forces look the other way while Christains get killed in the religious crisis in the north.

PROVOCATIVE REMARKS ON THE SOUTHERN KADUNA & FULANI KILLINGS:
BISHOP OYEDEPO NEVER MADE THEM


Our attention has been drawn to a salacious piece of fake news in mainstream and social media platforms, that Bishop David Oyedepo, Founder and President of Living Faith Church Worldwide (Winners’ Chapel International) charged Christians to take up arms and attack Muslims in the recent Kaduna killings and that if religious and ethnic injustice could not be addressed, Nigeria could as well break up.

[The fake news item, which has been trending online for a couple of days, is supposed to be a report depicting the Bishop reacting to the hostilities between Christians and Muslims in southern Kaduna in which unnumbered persons, mostly Christians have been killed.

In this report, Bishop Oyedepo purportedly called out and berated the politicians who were fun-watching while the carnage went on or fanning the embers of the violence, and supposedly noted that there was no basis for Nigeria’s continued unity.

For instance, in the online version of one of the popular Nigerian newspapers (Vanguard of January 12, 2017 reported by one Anthony Ogbonna), the Bishop was quoted as saying: “God has anointed me to lead a revolution against the Islamic jihadists” The Bishop is presented to have made very provocative and inciting comments to his congregation, declaring a counter-war against the Fulani and fanatics in the recent Kaduna crisis.

The report is false. [The video from which the quotes were taken is a 2015 video at a Sunday service in the heat of the Boko Haram crisis, when churches, including our Northern assemblies were under frequent attacks. This was before the present administration took office. The message bears no relevance to today’s happenings; not even developments of 2016. The reporter(s), either being completely unprofessional, lazy or simply wicked, made the 2015 message look like a 2017 church service message.The trending video is NOT a 2016 or 2017 video.
To this end, we can unequivocally and authoritatively say that this quote, the report and other similar reports do not fit the context of the Kaduna crisis or any developments whatsoever in the last one year.

The reports are therefore fake, unbelievably and maliciously fabricated and outright lies. They are tweaked, baseless, and fraudulent.

I will continue to say it that it is the government's job to ensure security of lives and properties through security agents and they have continued to fail at this. For someone Like Oyedepo who is known to always say his mind to recant on his own video, you must know water don pass garri. Small time now DSS will start inviting him daily.

liveLongNprospa:
CAN talked?
CAN that was dragged for days before they finally joined the people for protest?
CAN president in Kaduna that is so scared of saying the actual truth that he will most times come on TV and be politically correct in the name of peace.

That CAN?

Pix 1 & 2 :Deborah was murdered May 12th here’s a national newspaper on the 13th reporting CAN’a reaction.

Where did u get ur “ CAN was dragged for days” gist from ?


Pix 3 & 4: On the 16th May, CAN called for a peaceful protest to hold on the 22nd of May .

Except u expect CAN to also act like the mob that killed Deborah by instigating complete breakdown of law and order; I really don’t know what more u think CAN should have done otherwise .


The truth is Buhari’s administration was a failure on all fronts . You know it, I know it and everybody knows it as well.

afrodoc2:
You had to wait for police to lie about Nabeeha sisters not to believe their story?

I was born not believing Nigerian police. The first lie i ever heard in my life is "police is your friend".

No, it’s just like they recently renewed their license to tell obvious lies . Dem no dey even care whether their lie makes sense or not anymore .

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
dem say explosion happen 4 abuja.

The police’s account of the incident no really make much sense at all. A refuse container exploded under intense heat and injured two refuse excavator .


The fact that the police lied they rescued Nabeeha’s sisters when they didn’t makes it so difficult to believe this their story .

GloriousGbola:
thye need to talk, Sharia council has mouth to talk about the airforce bombing muslims. gumi has mouth to talk about bandits . what is good for the goose is good for the gander. oyedepo should shut uo though. that one is clearly a compromised clown who will do nothing other than drop some meaningless curses.

They’ve been talking . CAN was all over the news when the Deborah murder issue happened , they did same after the Christmas Day killings in Plateau state as well. The only issue is that aside talking , issuing press release and even meeting government officials/ the president there’s not much they can do.

I think about 2 weeks ago I saw a picture of CAN members who went to visit the president in Aso rock . They will most likely mention security concerns as part of their discussion during the courtesy visit .

afrodoc2:
That argument dey very funny to me. Any energy spent on dragging a pastor for that is energy wasted, especially when the appointed political leaders who can directly effect change are not being dragged to the maximum extent.

The pastors can only talk and it has been proven that their talk is not respected and carries no weight.

If we see that those politicians have been dragged to the extent the skin on their back is being peeled off, then maybe we can focus on pastors, imams, babalawos, Eckankankar etc.

Exactly . One of government’s most important duty is provision of security for lives and properties of citizens . If the government is failing at this duty , it is only right to call them out cos obviously they are the only ones that have the resources to do so at their disposal .

Those pastors get their own for body o, but there’s not much they can do when government deliberately fail at their own duty

Ibime:
Hmmm the guy want throw gasoline on fire. That is not leadership. Make he move with armed guards sha. The other day I saw current Dutch Prime Minister strolling in the street on his way to work chatting to one Nigerian lady. Here's him on his usual bicycle commute to work. Make this new guy no just try am



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUpr90y8IDA?si=Kyj0sjLriDeH24fD

If this kind of style didnt didn’t work but led to increased Jihadists attacks , then maybe it’s time for the new guy to go tough in dealing with the Jihadists for the sake of their people’s safety .

Ibime:
What makes me doubt is him saying they will put cartoon of Prophet Muhammad in every school. Got to be fake.

I thought so too until I say the original video in Dutch . Those who are Dutch in the comments also confirmed the video to be real; it appears the man is known in the country for such hard stand .

raumdeuter:
Probably sha

This is the original in Dutch . The man said what he said ! 🙅‍♂️

the full clip pic.twitter.com/4YWbdfwPpM

— Beloved of God (@Edenlife9) January 24, 2024

Ibime:
This got to be voice dubover

He said those same words in Dutch but it was voiced over to English

iamoyindamola:
I keep saying it
CAN Iis a useless organisation

The politicization of CAN under during Jonathan’s era really affected their brand afterwards .

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Drag who?

The truth is if you as an organised people do not stand up and fight for your spot, nobody will give it to you.

Just stop a Muslim girl from writing WAEC with Hijab, and watch what happens during that week. From MURIC to Sharia Council, to Muslim senators, to cleric heads, all will be wailing. But a Christian is killed, and all of them just keeps mute.

Deborah was killed and no action; Nothing. Just nonsense tweets wey no make sense.
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There was a lot of dust raised following the murder of Deborah , but we all know how protests were banned under Buhari’s government na. I’m sure nobody wanted to be used for target practice after what happened at ENDSARS .

izzou:
[color=royalblue]When i was tackling Adeboye the other day, e be like say na witch hunt.

Watching the video, you'll see he was killed because he is a Christian.

The pastors wey suppose talk, dey find drummers wey go play for free.

If na Israel now, dem go don dey disturb us on Twitter[/color]

Adeboye will most likely talk about it in the coming week and even offer prayers for the people of Mangu but that’s where his influence stops .

The government and security agencies that have power to actually do something about it are the people that needs to be dragged the most .

Omo! This guy was butchered in cold blood . There’s an uncensored video in the Twitter thread 💔

https://www.nairaland.com/7980488/christian-man-mangu-killed-fulani

GloriousGbola:
They will deliberately misinterpret.

As an example - who are the real sponsors of covenant university? We don't know. All the infrastructure used to build so many of these churches - is the money from tithes only?

For all you know churches could be used to launder kidnap money. Or yahoo money. That's how opaque their operations are.

If na by Infrastructure , wo churches too borrow money from banks like every other business.

What they do in such instance is that they access credit facilities from commercial bank for capital projects and then peg their source of repayment to donations, pledges , special offerings etc . The members will pay back the principal and interest without even knowing .

I’ve seen such facility offer letter before .

GloriousGbola:
Remember sign fireman?

A journalist also did exposes on the man. They also came to naught.

Someone needs to start regulating these churches, but it will be politicized and turned into persecution nonsense and Nigerians will jump on all the anointed bs.

They really got out of control in the gej years. That was when they all started buying private jets. Do you remember pastor bling bling (ayo oritejesafor) who was dashed a private jet by an anonymous donor?, that was when CAN became thoroughly and irredeemablely politicized. That same jet was used in the 15m.usd gun running scandal.

Any government calling for regulation of religious organizations no just get plans to dey succesful

I think the only kind of regulation that can be done was what OBJ did by placing a ban on live-streaming of miracles on TV. That way anybody cannot claim he was not protected enough by the authorities .

Any attempt for government to do more than that, gbe religious leaders will start misinterpreting it and their followers will take their word for it.

raumdeuter:
As an only child the mother had high hopes that after law school she will join a big law firm, get married etc

Instead the girl just resumed at "presidency" and wasn't making any moves to get married, The mother was even hinting that maybe Pastor Chris was doing something more sinister with single girls

Cos she say na only young girls wey suppose dey try settle down na him the "President" surround himself with

That early 2000’s was a really wild period sha . Na that period every guyman dey do miracle on TV everywhere . National stadium Surulere was always booked.

raumdeuter:
In a similar story around 2002, a family with only 1 child a girl. The girl studied law. When my aunty met her at a gathering and asked how was law school she said she has finished law school and works at Presidency. My aunt was delighted for her.

Until the girls mom tapped my auntie say Sister put me in your prayers Na Chris Oyakhikome church the girl dey work for free she dey call Presidency

🤣🤣🤣🤣

She supposed don turn Minister for the presidency now o