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petra1:
No you did . Peter was quoting from here

I don't like dishonest people. Just stop replying if you have lost grasp of your topic. Everything you are doing now amounts to dishonesty. Posting without making any sense with regard to the topic.

You claimed Israel was a nation of priests. I told you that she was until she broke the covenant with God by worshipping a false god (the golden calf). Only the Levites stood on the side of God and God chose them.

petra1:
Isreal was royal priesthood too and they paid tithes .

Exodus 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

You ignorantly took that verse out of context.

That was a covenant. It was a shadow of good things to come. When they broke the covenant by worshipping the golden calf, God chose the Levites and set up the Aaronic priesthood.

SMH.

petra1:
You mentioned compulsion not me.




I didn't either you did . We don't tithe on the basis of the law



Yes. Jesus is our high priest in the order of Melchizedek

This is hilarious.

OK, I suspected you would deny tithing under compulsion just to justify tithing.

If you tithe the Abraham way, you must tithe properly. There was nowhere in the Bible where Abraham told his descendents to tithe as he did. His tithing was voluntary and as rich as he was, there was never any evidence that he ever tithed out of his possessions before and after the Melchizedek episode.

If the Levitical priesthood (which needed tithe) has been replaced by the Melchizedek priesthood, shouldn't tithing not be a voluntary and personal thing, as done by Abraham?

davodyguy:
Of course he wouldn't .

It's my man PEA of BVB that would win.

Highest goal scorer in the bull and also won the German cup



Aubameyang contributed more for BVB than Moses did with Chelsea. Hence, PEA deserves it

The winner is voted for by fans. You can make Victor win. That was how Nigerians cost Enyeama a BBC award two or three years back by refusing to vote.

Kenny4lyfe:
I laugh in chinese....

Its good you know that 'royal priesthood' refers to priesthood after the order of Melchizedek.


And I'm sure you're aware that Jesus Christ is our High Priest too. Ok


You, my friend are the one who shot yourself in the foot.


So, there is no need schooling you on tithing or why you should pay tithe because you knew about tithing and in fact you (and your fellows) had at one time or the other been tithing before.


Here is what happened,


Your types are the ones of whom it was written in Malachi 3:14


Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the Lord of hosts?


You once tithed, you complained and then you tried to find reasons not to tithe and persuade others to do same.


Just like Apostle Suleiman said, 'there's no need arguing with a man who has already made up his mind.'


We know your type. Like others before you. I will only take you serious if you and your ilks start a ministry of antitithing, build congregations and sponsor missions.

Smh.

In the OT, did priests pay tithes to high priests? It is a simple question.

Kenny4lyfe:
1 Peter 2:9

Now, you have shot yourself in the foot.

If we are a royal priesthood, why should we pay tithes? Did Melchizedek (a royal priesthood) pay tithes?

pascal558:
gateman nd priest na sametin ni?

The Levites also performed menial tasks in the temple, including manning the gate of the temple of old. They received the tithes directly from the people and tithe a tenth of the tithes for the benefits of the priests. The priests could not collect tithes directly from the people because the tithes belonged to the Levites.

Learn to study the Bible by yourself. How will you survive the Antichrist if you don't know the Scriptures?

GREATESTPIANIST:
you are insinuating Adeboye could be a false pastor i guess.....Mr Perfect?

I am not insinuating. I have trashed this issue severally backing them up with the scriptures. How do you think we are expected to know false teachings? Didn't the Bible tell us how to identify false teachings and false teachers? You all always forget that we have the Bible and the noble Christians among us (Just like the Berean Jews) consult it as a way of identifying false teachings and exposing false teachers.

And the people of Berea were more open-minded than those in Thessalonica, and they listened eagerly to Paul's message. They searched the Scriptures day after day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth. (Acts 17:11)

pascal558:
You pay tithe r u dnt is nt my problem its btwn u nd ur God ,bt my point Jesus only came to stop people frm worshipping God canally...he never threw away the commandments of moses,or change things in the old testaments ...so ur point is just as blunt as that of ur master freeze,cos Jesus neva delivered a sermom that goes against tithing!!!

Since you insist on tithing, then you have to tithe properly. Only the Levites can receive tithes.

"And, behold, I have given the children of Levi all the tenth in Israel for an inheritance, for their service of the tabernacle of the congregation." (Numbers 18:21)

The Levites, however, do not get a portion among you, because the priestly service of the LORD is their inheritance. And Gad, Reuben and the half-tribe of Manasseh have already received their inheritance on the east side of the Jordan. Moses the servant of the LORD gave it to them.” (Joshua 18:7)

If you want to pay your tithe properly. You need to pay it to those who man your church gate and perform music during church worship. And these people must have no inheritance other than God. It is these people who would tithe a tenth of the tithes for the sake of your pastors.

derecho:
So many questions... But would you allow God use you? Will you be ready to leave everything for the sake of the Gospel? Can God depend on you?
Or you just want to join the accuser of brethren?The great commission isn't only for the Adeboyes it is for all those who are saved bro.
Moreover, fault-finding is not a gift of the Spirit. Let's be a Solution not a problem announcer.

I am not a fault finder. I am a teacher myself, by the grace of God. There are false teachers among us and it is the duty of the true teachers and the saints to identify false teachers and their heresies. It is not fault finding.

A teacher of the Word is supposed to equip the flock with the Word of God and set their minds on things that cannot perish. But the false teachers are neglecting their primary and only assignments and chasing after the riches of this world. They are erecting mighty mansions when many Christians cannot even tell their right from their left in spiritual matters.

Of what use are massive church buildings when God does not live in houses made of stones? Of what use is gaining the whole world and losing your soul in hell? Of what use is having churches in every street corner when the average Christian is still wicked at heart and very fraudulent? Of what use are mighty buildings when the average politician is extremely corrupt and lacking a conscience?

You will find in these mighty and useless church buildings:

1. Politicians diverting funds meant for his community.

2. Pension bosses sitting on the pensions of workers.

3.A lawyer or a wicked uncle or aunty sitting on the inheritance of their wards, e.t.c.

Thousands of massive church buildings and sermons every Sunday and yet corruption is still pervasive. Poverty is still pervasive. Instead of feeding the flock, they are fleecing the flock.

I ask again: of what use are church buildings and private jets? Do they equip and edify the saints? Or they help to glorify the empire of the pastor? Do they advance the Kingdom of God or the Kingdom of the pastor? Of what use are missionary schools that are not affordable? Of what use are these materialistic things that would perish one day? Why are pastors building church buildings instead of the Church?

Kenny4lyfe:
Tithe was a law only under the Levitical priesthood.
It is now for us a principle for kingdom prosperity. Jesus brought us into the Abrahamic blessing through salvation; our relationship with the Father is of a king-priest nature.



Yes. It's a necessary requirement in most churches- these are like families you see and certain practices are of necessity. You can't call yourself a christian and not tithe. What kind of christian doesn't tithe? Definitely not the one Jesus died for!

In this relationship, who is the King and who is the priest

shinarlaura:
. Woow. That souds cute.

Alright, my Queen.

Please, take a lot of rest. I don't want anything happening to my love.

shinarlaura:
Hahahahaha... my king i am having fever.
We ll give birth to a nl baby.. what name are we going to call her

BluntLaura How about that?

shinarlaura:
No.. i am not fine. I m sick

What is wrong with my Queen? Or perhaps, you are pregnant with my e-baby?

shinarlaura:
Lol... how re u doing?

I am fine, my goddess. I trust you are fine too

shinarlaura:
I'm so sweet

Now, that is just so perfect. You are so sweet.

shinarlaura, my love. What is your own?

sexybbstar:
I'm an angel

Yimu.

Kenny4lyfe:
If you are not against freewill giving why should tithing be a problem?


Can you please provide evidence of instances where Tithe were forced?

Tithing is not freewill. Tithing was a Law. You can't be under the Law and be claiming freedom.

Are you not in Nigeria?

In Winners Chapel, you can't be a full member except you pay tithe. Mind you, tithe is distinguished from freewill giving.

In many churches, you cannot be wedded except you are a confirmed tither.

[quote author=Kenny4lyfe post=62275069][/quote]Supporting those who minister either ministerially or materially are not principles of tithing but freewill giving.

I am not against freewill giving. I am against forced tithing. Any pastor who forces you to tithe by using the curses of the Law is a fraud. We are enjoined to give from our heart not to tithe under the Law.

If pastors get tithes, the choir and everyone laboring in the Church should get too. Everyone who labored in the temple of old benefited from the tithes. So, how come only pastors get tithes.

Kenny4lyfe:
Good #SchoolThemOnTithe

Some individuals have always been allergic to this 'tithe' issue for so long a time and the freeze fellow who added his voice to the issue (sponsored probably) was a vanguard.

''Tithing is God's kingdom principle and it is eternal. It is not an old testament thing.''

Funny enough, these folks called themselves 'christians' smh... even muslems don't argue their zakat or other forms of giving like this.

Bible verses, please. When Paul taught the Berean Jews, they examined his teachings to see if they aligned with the gospel.

Now, provide us Bible verses supporting tithing as a principle of God's kingdom?

petra1:
That’s only an incident. If a man could give tithe on even booty of war how much more from his belonging. Tithe is given of possession Did Jacob have to fight robbers to pay tithe ? He gave tithes of all. The issue is not about the “how but about the ”what”

Make up your mind, bro.

Do you tithe the Abraham way or the Jacob way?

betterABIAstate:
Jesus was likened to Melchizedek, you have English problem. According to your Melchizedek story, we are suppose to tithe just once and from the proceed of a war

Help me tell him.

petra1:
[]God brought about or introduced revelation of tithing through Abraham . And God trusted him to pass his knowledge of God to his generation.
It was from Isaac learned about tithing and passed it to Jacob



Jesus is our priest in the order of Melchizedek

If God revealed tithing through Abraham, then you have to tithe the Abraham way.

How?

Look for someone who has been robbed (must not be a Christian), fight off those who robbed him, help him recover his goods and tithe out of the recovered goods. And you must tithe this only after the priest first brings out bread and wine and blesses you. The priest must also have a priesthood superior to that of any man.

However, you still haven't answered my major question:

If Abraham's tithes predate the Law, how come you justify Abraham's tithes using the Law?

Petra1, why are you avoiding my questions? Wasn't it you who said you tithe the Abraham way?

You tithe the Abraham way (without compulsion) but emphasize the curses of Malachi on those who are not tithing. Please, I need explanations.

Are the priesthood of your pastors the equal of that of Melchizedek?

Please, I need answers.

IamtherealRita:
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Prostitutes are far better than your generations

He is a false teacher. His condemnation has been decided long ago. Don't bother yourself about him.

pascal558:
Oh nw u knw u are difrnt frm d jews!!Bt i taught i caught u singing father Abraham had many sons.....................i am one of them also are u?what was all dat 4 then?

You are a waste of time.

Let those who have Bible verses come forward, please. Emotions cannot solve this issue. Emotions cannot save misled Christians from the shackles of false teachers.

[quote author=pascal558 post=62272061][/quote]Emotions, as usual.

If the Holy Spirit is behind modern tithing, why would your pastors need to emphasize the curses in Malachi which were not even directed at Christians?